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Froyo Orange

I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.

marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update

I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..

roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...

Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?

rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.

Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.

Echinox said:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
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My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?

oh not bad!

Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.

bedeabc; said:
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
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just reflash an older radio

bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?

Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .

dallholio said:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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What do these different radio versions mean?

By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy

I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help

Where's my Froyo!

I've had a decent search around the other threads, and I can't find an answer for my question.
I have what I believe to be, an unbranded Desire, supplied directly from Vodaphone 1 week after launch. It boots up with the HTC logos and makes no reference to Vodaphone. The phone was never locked to Vodafone as I am able to use a Three sim to make calls and browse the web after I updated the APN settings.
I did receive an OTA update from Vodafone, a couple of weeks after I bought it, and I'm now wondering if Vodafone have "branded" it behind my back.
I would rather not go through the process of de-branding if it is already de-branded!
For the sake of my sanity, please help.

Check if you have a scene called 'Vodafone' if you do it is branded, like mine

I bought my desire in switzerland, it's unbranded and I receive the ota updade few minutes ago, its working very well. Be patient.. But depending from where your desire came, you will need to wait more.. This upgrade only apply for european country, not chinese or other places where desire is available.
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javawizkid said:
Check if you have a scene called 'Vodafone' if you do it is branded, like mine
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Bugger!
I've got a Vodafone scene!
Gold card here I come...
Thanks for the clarification.

Just found the same damn thing.
I have no chance to make a gold card though, I have only one microSD..the one in the ****ing phone.

Hello,
Can I not root using the 1 click unrevoked method and then just flash the official ROM?
I don't care about rooting though. I would rather to use the official ROM.

pablo_max said:
Hello,
Can I not root using the 1 click unrevoked method and then just flash the official ROM?
I don't care about rooting though. I would rather to use the official ROM.
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If you have the Official 2.1 ROM, then you can use unrevoked method for rooting.
Otherwise, if you are updated to 2.2 through OTA, then you can't.

pablo_max said:
Just found the same damn thing.
I have no chance to make a gold card though, I have only one microSD..the one in the ****ing phone.
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So whats the problem? That works. Your mc wont stop working.
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I downloaded the official 2.2 that was posted here. Can I just use that?

Question

I got a htc desire from 3 on contract i rooted it (superuser permmision).Then i made a goldcard and updated to the RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8_Radio_32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed.exe.Now when it upgraded the 3 logo was gone so when another update comes out will it ota update or do i have to use my goldcard still.

It sounds like you have debranded your phone so whenever another ota update is released by htc you will just need to insert your gold card and apply the update.
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Thanks for the reply.

Gingerbread ota?

Will the GB be sent out ota?
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[email protected] said:
Will the GB be sent out ota?
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Highly likely.
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thanks
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desire gingerbread
Hi all
Do unlocked to any network phones receive OTA updates before branded ones?, and if that is the case if I unlocked my phone would I receive the OTA update earlier even if I am still running the orange UK android 2.2.

howjord said:
Hi all
Do unlocked to any network phones receive OTA updates before branded ones?, and if that is the case if I unlocked my phone would I receive the OTA update earlier even if I am still running the orange UK android 2.2.
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I doubt it, because carriers have to do their own testing of the firmware then distribute it, so even though htc will release it this week we might not get it during this week or the week after maybe.

No. You still have to wait for Orange to mess around with it. You'll be waiting at least another month after gb gets released.
Swyped...

Unbranded phones will most likely get updates before anyone else. If your phone is branded you will have to create a gold card then you can install the official HTC unbranded ruu, then get the OTA earlier.

howjord said:
Hi all
Do unlocked to any network phones receive OTA updates before branded ones?, and if that is the case if I unlocked my phone would I receive the OTA update earlier even if I am still running the orange UK android 2.2.
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To answer your question as noone else cared to read it, no unlocked phones won't get it earlier. The locking is completely separated from the rom itself.
But branded phones(the ones with apps and stuff from orange etc. on it) will have to wait for the carrier to add their branding and deploy it. So you can get it quicker by unbranding(installing a stock wwe htc rom), however you might get issues when trying to install the update.

thanks all for your replies. Thought about installing the stock htc rom with no orange branding but heard it can cause problems so will just have to wait.
Will I lose root, sim unlocked and s-off when the update comes through?

dunno how bout sim-lock
but you NEVER should apply an OTA on rooted rom
and yes you will lose root and s-off (if it works well, the ota)
just wait until it gets released, devs will root it and post here, and you just download stock rooted gingerbread and flash it.

no update for dhd

Hello guys
My friends DHD had mainboard changed (warranty) but now he is not able to receive even gingerbread update. so the guy has to stick with Froyo for now. He does not want to get root just the the regular updates
At software menu it says that phone is up to date haha
Any suggestions?
is it possible to force an update? (if it is not getting gingerbread so I doubt that he gets ICS later on)
Regards

To be honest I'd root it...do it for him if he's worried about it...his main boards been changed neways lol so I doubt begging else will happen..there's loads of benefits to rooting her neway
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arknailed7754 said:
To be honest I'd root it...do it for him if he's worried about it...his main boards been changed neways lol so I doubt begging else will happen..there's loads of benefits to rooting her neway
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What is your friends firmware version? Not android version, but the HTC Firmware.
Should look something like. x.xx.xxx.x - e.g. 1.32.405.6

Software version 2.50.405.2
Kernel 2.6.35.10
Baseband 12.54.60.25U_24.09.04.11
Hope will do any help
Anyhow the question is if (even phone is rooted) it is possible to apply updates without changing ROM?
I have rooted my phone and already tried a bunch of ROMs (currently using Revolution HD 6.3.1) but thats not for my friend. As she wants to have regular HTC rom and get updated version of software.
thanks again

If your looking for a fairly clean rom try leedroids he only works with official releases...there's a list in the Dec section of purely stock Roms bit just rooted I'd go there..If its a lady I'd try the bliss Roms they were designed for the woman apparently lol
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thanks arknailed7754 for your post
though my main question still remains if it is possible to force update to original rom. (rooting is not a problem)
regards

Froyo was 2.2..gingerbread started at 2.3 so he's over the original release..I think you can apply the update through adb..with an official ruu. I'm not as knowledgeable as some on here but that's how you can push the phone to the new update..the official are also in Dec section..there's probably a guide in there if you need help applying,surprised he can update though HTC released the official sense 3.0 etc last year q4.
As I said I might be talking out of my ass but go to Do a search in Google with your keywords its in there..
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If your unrooted & don't want root, just want to update to the latest firmware then download the RUU in this post -->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22871910&postcount=33
Before you run it, make sure you've got HTC Sync installed (for the USB drivers).
Your current firmware is a WWE x.xx.405.x and matches that of the update posted 3.12.405.1. You should update with no issues. It will however wipe your device, so make sure you backup what you can before you run the RUU.

Thanks for your help.
Will try as soon as get my hends on friends phone.
Will post results.
Thanks again
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When updating received ERROR:
"ERROR 131 customer id error
....
Please get correct ROM update utility"
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/htcerror.jpg/
tried that one too
RUU_Ace_Sense30_S_HTC_WWE_3.12.405.1_Radio_12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M_release_225512_signed.exe
but got the same error
or you have any other options

Hopefully this will work
pashkustva said:
Hello guys
My friends DHD had mainboard changed (warranty) but now he is not able to receive even gingerbread update. so the guy has to stick with Froyo for now. He does not want to get root just the the regular updates
At software menu it says that phone is up to date haha
Any suggestions?
is it possible to force an update? (if it is not getting gingerbread so I doubt that he gets ICS later on)
Regards
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I had the same problem with my DHD. Whenever I connected to WiFi, I never got the update. What I did was when I connected my DHD to PC, I selected "Internet Passthrough". And voila, I got a message a few minutes later that an update to Gingerbread is available. Try this and I hope this will resolve the problem.