I've had a decent search around the other threads, and I can't find an answer for my question.
I have what I believe to be, an unbranded Desire, supplied directly from Vodaphone 1 week after launch. It boots up with the HTC logos and makes no reference to Vodaphone. The phone was never locked to Vodafone as I am able to use a Three sim to make calls and browse the web after I updated the APN settings.
I did receive an OTA update from Vodafone, a couple of weeks after I bought it, and I'm now wondering if Vodafone have "branded" it behind my back.
I would rather not go through the process of de-branding if it is already de-branded!
For the sake of my sanity, please help.
Check if you have a scene called 'Vodafone' if you do it is branded, like mine
I bought my desire in switzerland, it's unbranded and I receive the ota updade few minutes ago, its working very well. Be patient.. But depending from where your desire came, you will need to wait more.. This upgrade only apply for european country, not chinese or other places where desire is available.
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Check if you have a scene called 'Vodafone' if you do it is branded, like mine
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Bugger!
I've got a Vodafone scene!
Gold card here I come...
Thanks for the clarification.
Just found the same damn thing.
I have no chance to make a gold card though, I have only one microSD..the one in the ****ing phone.
Hello,
Can I not root using the 1 click unrevoked method and then just flash the official ROM?
I don't care about rooting though. I would rather to use the official ROM.
pablo_max said:
Hello,
Can I not root using the 1 click unrevoked method and then just flash the official ROM?
I don't care about rooting though. I would rather to use the official ROM.
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If you have the Official 2.1 ROM, then you can use unrevoked method for rooting.
Otherwise, if you are updated to 2.2 through OTA, then you can't.
pablo_max said:
Just found the same damn thing.
I have no chance to make a gold card though, I have only one microSD..the one in the ****ing phone.
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So whats the problem? That works. Your mc wont stop working.
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I downloaded the official 2.2 that was posted here. Can I just use that?
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I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
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GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
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My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?
oh not bad!
Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
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just reflash an older radio
bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .
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Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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What do these different radio versions mean?
By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy
I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help
First off, I've had WM phones for years and flashed them to bits but I'm pretty nooby when it comes to Android, so bear with me.
Alrighty then, after all the hoo-ha with the last update I've held off debranding my Orange Desire for all this time - I got mine on Orange launch day so I've had to put up with the Orange crap for a long while. Basically all I want to do it debrand and get FroYo, I'm not interested in rooting yet but I can't really afford to unlock it (student loan is getting very low this summer). I understand I need a Goldcard etc and I'm happy enough with the procedure.
My question, when the 2.2 RUU appears, will it lock my Desire if I flash it with the Goldcard?
edit - Another question, if I flash to an old debranded ROM, will I have to run through the problematic updates before I'm offered the 2.2 OTA update, hence locking my phone?
Use your goldcard for debranding and updating and you should be fine. Personally I would just buy an unlock code and debrand to an older ROM and then do any OTA updates.
Mine is Orange debranded and updated just fine when using the goldcard.
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Use your goldcard for debranding and updating and you should be fine. Personally I would just buy an unlock code and debrand to an older ROM and then do any OTA updates.
Mine is Orange debranded and updated just fine when using the goldcard.
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Thanks for the reply, I'll wait for the RUU and see how it goes I guess.
Anyone know how long it usually takes for the RUU to appear after the OTA is put out?
System Update on a Contract Vodafone HTC Desire (unbranded and unlocked) has just presented me with a System Upgrade 1.24.161.3 (19.31MB).
For anyone considering this - this is NOT Froyo. It is an update that WILL BRAND your phone with a Vodafone startup screen, various Vodafone apps, etc.
I think, I'll be going to flash to stock ROM route now.
Can anyone confirm if this does anything silly like simlocks the phone also. I know the Vodafone UK phones were unlocked but had a vodafone branded rom.
i really wish i knew this afew hours ago! got all excited about an OTA update and didn't bother reading what it said!
Now ive got a beautiful Desire with Vodafone Bloatware!
I think ill be going towards the debranding route! make my life easier!
El
ok can anyone point me in the direction of a guide that works for my phone then which is as stated above, now on the latest vodaphone update.
i can confirm that it doesnt lock your phone, as mine is on three.co.uk.
cheers
That sucks... I dislike network rubbish.
I saw the update on my branded vodafone and installed it.
then saw the red crap on the phone.
then i want to debrand the phone.
but now one problem i have version 1.24.161.3 installed and when i want to install
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed with gold card inserted i get cannot install older.
any solution ?
I have just been hit with this Vodafone crap as well.
How can I go back a ROM? Aghhhhhhhhhh
This is bullsh*t!, i just wasted 10mb of data downloading this thinking i was finally getting froyo only to now have vodafone cr*p plastered all over my phone.
So thats why we havent got froyo yet... your too busy making updates that advertise for you & plaster your logos all over our phones than actually giving us a propper manufactuers update that was released by htc!
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I am currently reading how to use the unrevoked3 software to dump all this new Vodafone crap - any issues with using this with 0.80 loader and 1.24.161.3?
Someone should complain directly to Vodafone, As they including their eforum staff have pushed the Desire as a "Unbranded" handset!!! there must be something trading standards can do?
so whats the benefit if any?
rob81h said:
Someone should complain directly to Vodafone, As they including their eforum staff have pushed the Desire as a "Unbranded" handset!!! there must be something trading standards can do?
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I agree it's not right, but I'm fairly sure there is a line in e contract that allows it, on the plus side it is probably something the had to release to confirm it works on froyo, fingers crossed froyo with a week, and I may debrand if it doesn't arrive or the new icons annoy me too much
LOL is their a BIG Vodafone splash screen on start up with this "update"? As far as i'm aware Vodafone did push the phone as "unbranded" it went something like this.
Week one of the desire's release:"The HTC desire is completely unbranded as are many of our handsets now, As we feel this is what our customers want".
Couple of weeks later:
Concerned customer: "Hang on, whats this vodafone scene?"
Eforum staff: I'll look into it!
Forum member: "Yeah the software versions differant as well"
Concerned customer: "Well thats odd, i was told by vodafone and numerous sites/forums the vodafone desire was completely unbranded, thats why i went with vodafone!"
Eforum staff:Well errrmmm well arr errmmm, as far as i know it is!!!"
Not my story just how i see it!!
goenie said:
I saw the update on my branded vodafone and installed it.
then saw the red crap on the phone.
then i want to debrand the phone.
but now one problem i have version 1.24.161.3 installed and when i want to install
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed with gold card inserted i get cannot install older.
any solution ?
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I did the exact same thing with the same stock ROM above and have the same version above. Took me 2 hours to get to the final stage (as I am new to this) and then it failed. I have read elsewhere that Vodafone have done something to it so you can't debrand it.
Hi all! New here but will no doubt be around more.
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I did the exact same thing with the same stock ROM above and have the same version above. Took me 2 hours to get to the final stage (as I am new to this) and then it failed. I have read elsewhere that Vodafone have done something to it so you can't debrand it.
Hi all! New here but will no doubt be around more.
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Which HBOOT version is the new update? try rooting it with Unrevoked then flash any old 2.1 rooted rom, then make goldcard and flash HTC RUU!
Ok all. I installed the crap Vodafone update today and have since rooted and installed a new custom rom as I am not having Vodafone crippling MY Desire when they feel like it so this is how I did it:
Download Unrevoked 3 here: http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
Follow these instrcutions to use it: http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
Choose which new ROM you want - I have gone for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732246
Follow instructions on how to load a custom ROM here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-htc-desire/ and in the ROM authors thread
Pat yourself on the back when you have finally got back to a nice, unbastardised ROM AND you are on the Vodafone network.
my phone came from carphone warehouse k and is on a vodafone contract/sim
i got the update on sunday morning it was 90mb and no vodafone stuff was involved in the install
AndyChecker - thanks for that. I am going to go through that method now. Have you since got FroYo?
Yeah mate am on Froyo now. All seems good so far.
Pain in the arse having to set things up again but good thing is if you use all the Google services they all get pulled down when you fiirst sync anyways. Have lsot 4 hours of my life tonight due to fecking Vodafone but on a positive note I am back on XDA posting which is something I haven't done for a while due to the stock Desire Rom being sooo much better than the old Win Mo ROMS.
So far this junk has spamed my phone with...
a massive voda logo at boot up (which has removed htcs own "quietly brilliant" boot screen)
changed my default web homepage to vodas 360 page
Flooded my bookmarks with junk i didnt have bookmarked before
installed multiple apps like voda web browser, voda music store, voda app/game store & 360 updates app! None of which am i able to uninstall!
Updated my sms app so it displays the number of messages next to the message header
Changed "people" to htc people
Reactivated sync on stocks even though it was dasabled before.
Placed a click link to the voda music store in the stock mp3 player
Taken up over 10mb of internal memory!
Damn you vodafone!
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hi i am looking for some help with debranding and updating my desire from orange crap ware to froyo i ask for help as i have killed 3 phones already and dont want to do another one "it's becoming a standing joke round my place" i cant seem to find anyone to unlock it tried 4 different people with code not found to new i suppose.orange wont do it fir 3 months any help would be appreciated i dont mind paying someone say 10-15 pound to do it if there in my area colchester if its all fine and working after thanks in advance
i did get the first one done but then the radio messed up usual orange mess up
I take it by saying you need to unlock them you flashed the WWE with the radio? To fix it all you have to do is take the SIM out, boot the phone and do the OTA update to Froyo which will flash a radio compatible with Orange.
i see there is a htc froyo image available now will this work 100% with orange phones "why do they have to be such a pain" i still nervous about doing it i think orange might get funny if i keep sending them back
djbandit said:
i see there is a htc froyo image available now will this work 100% with orange phones "why do they have to be such a pain" i still nervous about doing it i think orange might get funny if i keep sending them back
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Nobody has reported issue with it on Orange—it updates the radio to the correct bands.
yep should work fine
I updated my own 'graphite' Orange phone and a friends 'black' Orange phone.
We're both very happy and flawless
I too had a spangly new Desire on Orange and was dead nervous about rooting it but it was a real straight forward process in the end. Now,with fake flash, I put the Roms I like on my memory card and just flash them whenever I fancy a change. It seems quite daunting but in truth it really is nothing to worry about. Take it from a very nervous first time rooter
pm me if you want a step by step guide or any links.
Thanks for the reply I went and done it to official froyo .ruu last night not worried about rooting just wanted rid of Orange crapware and froyo. All went well apart from use going to sleep had to unplug phone and plugvit back in to get it to work strange but did it all ok
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has anyone actualy got a good guide for rooting/ installing a new rom on orange desires.
i have been trying for months now with no luck on rooting or flashing and i hate the crap orange pack into their phones
PWR_USR said:
has anyone actualy got a good guide for rooting/ installing a new rom on orange desires.
i have been trying for months now with no luck on rooting or flashing and i hate the crap orange pack into their phones
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It's very simple use unrevoked to root your desire and flash one of the many custom roms. Or if you want to debrand make a gold card then use one of the RUUs found on the forum.
tried and failed, could get either processes to work and followed the instructions to a T, has orange just locked these phones down completely
No they haven't I have rooted and unrooted my phone many times.
lazyeejay said:
I too had a spangly new Desire on Orange and was dead nervous about rooting it but it was a real straight forward process in the end. Now,with fake flash, I put the Roms I like on my memory card and just flash them whenever I fancy a change. It seems quite daunting but in truth it really is nothing to worry about. Take it from a very nervous first time rooter
pm me if you want a step by step guide or any links.
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@layzeejay my phone is now rooted and i have clockworkmod recovery on it. I want the stock orange desire hd rom. Where can i go about about getting this thanks?
Any help would be great just need to know where the ROM is? And if i hit update on the phone after i have put this rom in will it just update my phone for me to most recent without orange nonsense everywhere?
It doesn't exist - it's never been leaked
There are ways of doing it but it still won't be 100% back to stock
I keep getting CID error when i try to root my orange desire, can anyone help?
You need a gold card
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You need a gold card
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Any chance of pointing me in the right location for a decent guide on this. I find so many ways online that i don't know which are the right things im looking at.
Many many thanks
MMM
You make a goldcard and then Ruu, it's very easy
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Gold card thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954723
Ruu thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
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So what are the steps to flashing my HTC Desire on Orange UK?
1. Make a Goldcard?
2. Flash the RUU?
3. Root the phone?
4. Flash the ROM?
Would that update the radio and put a custom rom on it?
Thanks for any help for a noob!
Goldcard and then Ruu
You are not obliged to root it, this 2 thinks are very différents.
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Got an HTC Desire from work on O2. We had it unlocked the other day by O2 and I'm now running it with an Orange SIM. I thought that once unlocked Froyo would be available but when I check the software update I'm shown that I've got 2.1 running and no updates available.
Help!
digital_vibe said:
Got an HTC Desire from work on O2. We had it unlocked the other day by O2 and I'm now running it with an Orange SIM. I thought that once unlocked Froyo would be available but when I check the software update I'm shown that I've got 2.1 running and no updates available.
Help!
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You've probably got a branded desire, you would need to flash an unbranded rom and then search for updates I think.
Hi mate,
If you use the Root meathod by search the forum for Unvolked meathod install the recovery program by following the guide, then putting the flash zip update froyo rom from this forum on your sd card, backup using nandroid then flash and when phone restarts you have updated 2.2 android on the phone.
Any problems send me a msg.
i dig out some instructions for you, that i followed, the guys on here are excellent when it comes to helping you, see my post help please, in development sections.
Post below :
www.rootmydroid.co.uk then click "desire" on the right
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Tapper
Yes. That would be the quickest way to get Froyo 2.2.
It will also void your warranty though.
That is true, however HTC state if you root your HTC at your own risk,
but my phone provider stated if i have any problems they don't check.
Im with Virginmedia. mobile. who are putting the rom out next month and your have to download and zip so you will need to root it to do that.
Thanks
Tapper