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Froyo Orange

I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.

marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update

I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..

roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...

Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?

rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.

Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.

Echinox said:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?

oh not bad!

Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.

bedeabc; said:
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
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just reflash an older radio

bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?

Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .

dallholio said:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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What do these different radio versions mean?

By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy

I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help

OTA Froyo for Orange users (Debranded).

Hi all, I realise there are going to be loads of threads (indeed there are already some) outlining Froyo upgrade woes/tips but since users with Orange branded handsets seem to have a slightly different time of things I thought it may be useful to share experiences(although presumably it will only be debranded users that are going to be updating at the moment).
I debranded mine to the RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed rom and have unlocked the phone using a code from eBay. I'm about to install the OTA update with a goldcard inserted I'll let you know how I've got on after the fact.
Thanks.
Worked! On the face of it it seems to have worked. As far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).

Yeah thanks. Maybe Goldcard is the answer

Just updated my unlocked debranded orange desire with goldcard inserted. No problems so far everything working fine including wifi.
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Running 1.15 as I didn't want to have to unlock on updating to 1.21
I assume I'll have to:
OTA update to 1.21
Unlock
OTA update to Froyo w/ Goldcard
Agree?

FazUK said:
Running 1.15 as I didn't want to have to unlock on updating to 1.21
I assume I'll have to:
OTA update to 1.21
Unlock
OTA update to Froyo w/ Goldcard
Agree?
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I could be wrong but if memory serves, you have to have the goldcard in for the OTA update to 1.21 or your wifi will stop working (provided the handset is Orange branded) Something about not being able to overwrite a file without the goldcard in? (But that will update your radio and then you'll need to unlock it as you say) I could be wrong though

Ok just so you all know i've succesfully downgraded to 2.1 using my goldcard. Now to try the 2.2 update again using goldcard.

Im on orange debranded unlocked and never rooted, what should i do??
EDIT: doinbox should be able to answer this when he finishes

Guys, just spoke with Orange and apparently they are rolling out Froyo by end of next week, i think I might wait rather than use a gold card

Ahhhh i never thought of this.
I went ahead with the ota upgrade and now the phone keeps rebooting in a loop. It gets so far as the unlock screen and then i get a notice saying "Process system is not repsonding" I get to choose "force close" or "wait". Neither selection does anything, the phone simply reboots at this stage and gets in a loop.

Im in same boat, seems to be that it's using the 2.1 radio version so it wont work. I'm stuck where to go

Success
Righties, on the face of it it seems to have worked. as far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).
Updated initial post.

JayceAndTheNews said:
Righties, on the face of it it seems to have worked. as far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).
Updated initial post.
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what about when you take out your goldcard??
Thanks

I dun like Orange Roms.
So I did the same like the Author of this thread did.
Flash to the Original WWE Roms with goldcard. Then Update to 2.2 through OTA.
No Problems at all!! Fantastic Froyo.

Just taken it out and put my big card back in, all fine. I believe the goldcard itself is only for the installation of roms and radios onto branded handsets, so once the update has completed I don't believe you need it in.
That said it was my intention just to make my big memory card into a goldcard and leave it in the phone permanently (I just forgot )

Downloading now. Thanks for risking your desire for the community

I had previously updated my Orange debranded Desire to 1.21 using my gold card. I just used the same gold card again to update to froyo and it all worked really well.
Just make sure you have 25mb free space on your phone before updating.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

lennshow66 said:
what about when you take out your goldcard??
Thanks
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It works fine for me after removing my gold card.
Rik
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

You do not need to go back to go forward here.
**IF YOU ARE DEBRANDED AND HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE OTA UPDATE JUST RUN UPDATE.ZIP TO BOOTLOADER WITH GOLDCARD INSERTED - DO NOT REGRESS TO FULL 2.1 RUU OR YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS ETC**

Hopefully it all goes well and smoothly for everyone else
I'd imagine the worst that could happen is some reflashing/unlocking required.

JayceAndTheNews said:
Hopefully it all goes well and smoothly for everyone else
I'd imagine the worst that could happen is some reflashing/unlocking required.
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Unlocking code is pretty cheap at Ebay. I bought mine for only 7.99 GBP. So no worries...

Where's my Froyo!

I've had a decent search around the other threads, and I can't find an answer for my question.
I have what I believe to be, an unbranded Desire, supplied directly from Vodaphone 1 week after launch. It boots up with the HTC logos and makes no reference to Vodaphone. The phone was never locked to Vodafone as I am able to use a Three sim to make calls and browse the web after I updated the APN settings.
I did receive an OTA update from Vodafone, a couple of weeks after I bought it, and I'm now wondering if Vodafone have "branded" it behind my back.
I would rather not go through the process of de-branding if it is already de-branded!
For the sake of my sanity, please help.

Check if you have a scene called 'Vodafone' if you do it is branded, like mine

I bought my desire in switzerland, it's unbranded and I receive the ota updade few minutes ago, its working very well. Be patient.. But depending from where your desire came, you will need to wait more.. This upgrade only apply for european country, not chinese or other places where desire is available.
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javawizkid said:
Check if you have a scene called 'Vodafone' if you do it is branded, like mine
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Bugger!
I've got a Vodafone scene!
Gold card here I come...
Thanks for the clarification.

Just found the same damn thing.
I have no chance to make a gold card though, I have only one microSD..the one in the ****ing phone.

Hello,
Can I not root using the 1 click unrevoked method and then just flash the official ROM?
I don't care about rooting though. I would rather to use the official ROM.

pablo_max said:
Hello,
Can I not root using the 1 click unrevoked method and then just flash the official ROM?
I don't care about rooting though. I would rather to use the official ROM.
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If you have the Official 2.1 ROM, then you can use unrevoked method for rooting.
Otherwise, if you are updated to 2.2 through OTA, then you can't.

pablo_max said:
Just found the same damn thing.
I have no chance to make a gold card though, I have only one microSD..the one in the ****ing phone.
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So whats the problem? That works. Your mc wont stop working.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I downloaded the official 2.2 that was posted here. Can I just use that?

Need help debranding Orange HTC Desire for Stock Froyo

Hey guys,
I am a total newb on all this debranding, flashing business. Spend the past week checking all sorts of forums etc and also waiting endlessly for froyo to be released to our Desires! Problem is i am still a bit unclear, so if anyone could give me help, that'd be really nice
Ok, here is the thing:
I have an Orange branded phone, got it via phones4u on orange, ive already unlocked it with a code and currently using 02 Sim on it.
I'd like to retain my warranty, so wouldn't like to root, so my other choice is flashing it right ? :S
I just want the stock froyo on my HTC, but since its orange branded i heard that there might be some problems with radio or something :S
Tbh, I dont even know what radio means! LOL i just want the stock Froyo released by HTC, on my phone without waiting for orange to bring their crapped down version
Any help, please!!!
PS: ive got a spar memory card for any gold card business, just need some pointers for that

De-branding could technically void your warranty but you'll need to search for making a goldcard on the forum and then flash with either 2.1 and update via OTA or Froyo (though I'm not sure that's possible just yet).

oh i see , once i flash it , will i have to install anything else like radios etc? :S
By using the stock rom, does it mean that, next time htc releases a update i can just do it ota?
there is no other way apart from voiding warranty is there ?:S

As you've already unlocked you're good to go! The whole thing should take about 30 minutes but you'll lose all you're data.
I think you'll have to void your warranty but I reckon it's worth it to rid of Monopoly, Bowling, and Orange-bloody-Messenger and get Froyo now.

just one thing what are the chances of my phone bricking up and where can i get the stock rom with froyo released by htc? Also once i got the stock rom, what happens with updates? will OTA be working properly or do i have to reflash it everytime there is an update??
can someone show me a step by step guide on how to do this all? :O
I am a total newb on this

steve228uk said:
As you've already unlocked you're good to go! The whole thing should take about 30 minutes but you'll lose all you're data.
I think you'll have to void your warranty but I reckon it's worth it to rid of Monopoly, Bowling, and Orange-bloody-Messenger and get Froyo now.
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Well I've just stepped through that portal... Unlocked the phone then OTA 2.1 update followed by OTA 2.2 stock rom. Now running Froyo on 'Orange' phone.
Flawless, just going through my apps now. Needed the newest version of HTC Sync though.

SavCom said:
Well I've just stepped through that portal... Unlocked the phone then OTA 2.1 update followed by OTA 2.2 stock rom. Now running Froyo on 'Orange' phone.
Flawless, just going through my apps now. Needed the newest version of HTC Sync though.
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oh i see, could you please show me where you got the instructions to get your phone unbranded, where you got the roms and radios etc? still not 100% sure on how to do that :O
Ive decided i am gonna get rid of all this orange crap lol

Official O2 Froyo, the good news and the bad

Hi all,
did a manual check for updates this morning and 2.2 is available, yay!
The trouble is, I'm to frightened to download it as a couple of people on the O2 forum have said it's bricked their phones-stuck on the startup/splash screen!
A few people complained about this happening with their Dell Sreaks with 2.1 a couple of days ago.
What we gonna do guys?

I dont get the point in the post, either go ahead and update or dont update? Firmware bricks are a grey area with warranty, i would imagine if its non HTC official update HTC may not fix it, if it is HTC i would imagine they would.
I dont know if you can enter recovery to backup your current rom if you have not rooted yet

I did my update without any problem. I too got scarred when the device restarted 2 times. Everything going good. Started to see some battery improvement too
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

The point of the post is to warn others to hang a little till O2 sort this out, might save a bit of anguish, unless people want to take the risk.....

How long were peoiple waiting on the boot screen? Can take 5-10 minutes sometimes on first boot...did for me going from 2.1 to 2.2 on my SIM-free Desire

can they not download the RUU o2 update from shipped roms and apply it manually if it gets to that state?
getting stuck at splash screen tends to mean that the bootloader and recovery is intact

Well my Desire is bricked by the update. bootloader still works. I guess ill wait a bit. Maybe o2 will release something to recover the phone. Otherwise ill try to go with the warranty ...
edit : recovery mode works ... so a working update.zip + any way to get it on the phone could solve the problem ...

check the bottom of first post
androidforums.com/htc-desire/148932-froyo-ruu-update-available.html
this is the RUU version of the o2 2.2 update
folow the instructions (a gold card will not be needed as its o2 branded)

whever update you do, you are still running the risk

its a way to recover that im pointing out

I updated my o2 desire to 2.2. successfully without any problems. o2 says that there are some problems with the slcd desire-devices. I have an amoled device and no problems.

hxxp://forum.o2online.de/t5/Handys-und-Zubeh%C3%B6r/Android-2-2-FroYo-und-HTC-Desire-2-Update/td-p/24228
replace xx with tt
here you go. at least the german guys.
I updated my o2 desire to 2.2. successfully without any problems. o2 says that there are some problems with the slcd desire-devices. I have an amoled device and no problems.
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Mine was AMOLED too :/

hahaha, its the same one as the leaked o2 sw last week
same code

Nice xD
At least it worked ... for me