Hi all, I realise there are going to be loads of threads (indeed there are already some) outlining Froyo upgrade woes/tips but since users with Orange branded handsets seem to have a slightly different time of things I thought it may be useful to share experiences(although presumably it will only be debranded users that are going to be updating at the moment).
I debranded mine to the RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed rom and have unlocked the phone using a code from eBay. I'm about to install the OTA update with a goldcard inserted I'll let you know how I've got on after the fact.
Thanks.
Worked! On the face of it it seems to have worked. As far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).
Yeah thanks. Maybe Goldcard is the answer
Just updated my unlocked debranded orange desire with goldcard inserted. No problems so far everything working fine including wifi.
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Running 1.15 as I didn't want to have to unlock on updating to 1.21
I assume I'll have to:
OTA update to 1.21
Unlock
OTA update to Froyo w/ Goldcard
Agree?
FazUK said:
Running 1.15 as I didn't want to have to unlock on updating to 1.21
I assume I'll have to:
OTA update to 1.21
Unlock
OTA update to Froyo w/ Goldcard
Agree?
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I could be wrong but if memory serves, you have to have the goldcard in for the OTA update to 1.21 or your wifi will stop working (provided the handset is Orange branded) Something about not being able to overwrite a file without the goldcard in? (But that will update your radio and then you'll need to unlock it as you say) I could be wrong though
Ok just so you all know i've succesfully downgraded to 2.1 using my goldcard. Now to try the 2.2 update again using goldcard.
Im on orange debranded unlocked and never rooted, what should i do??
EDIT: doinbox should be able to answer this when he finishes
Guys, just spoke with Orange and apparently they are rolling out Froyo by end of next week, i think I might wait rather than use a gold card
Ahhhh i never thought of this.
I went ahead with the ota upgrade and now the phone keeps rebooting in a loop. It gets so far as the unlock screen and then i get a notice saying "Process system is not repsonding" I get to choose "force close" or "wait". Neither selection does anything, the phone simply reboots at this stage and gets in a loop.
Im in same boat, seems to be that it's using the 2.1 radio version so it wont work. I'm stuck where to go
Success
Righties, on the face of it it seems to have worked. as far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).
Updated initial post.
JayceAndTheNews said:
Righties, on the face of it it seems to have worked. as far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).
Updated initial post.
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what about when you take out your goldcard??
Thanks
I dun like Orange Roms.
So I did the same like the Author of this thread did.
Flash to the Original WWE Roms with goldcard. Then Update to 2.2 through OTA.
No Problems at all!! Fantastic Froyo.
Just taken it out and put my big card back in, all fine. I believe the goldcard itself is only for the installation of roms and radios onto branded handsets, so once the update has completed I don't believe you need it in.
That said it was my intention just to make my big memory card into a goldcard and leave it in the phone permanently (I just forgot )
Downloading now. Thanks for risking your desire for the community
I had previously updated my Orange debranded Desire to 1.21 using my gold card. I just used the same gold card again to update to froyo and it all worked really well.
Just make sure you have 25mb free space on your phone before updating.
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what about when you take out your goldcard??
Thanks
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It works fine for me after removing my gold card.
Rik
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You do not need to go back to go forward here.
**IF YOU ARE DEBRANDED AND HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE OTA UPDATE JUST RUN UPDATE.ZIP TO BOOTLOADER WITH GOLDCARD INSERTED - DO NOT REGRESS TO FULL 2.1 RUU OR YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS ETC**
Hopefully it all goes well and smoothly for everyone else
I'd imagine the worst that could happen is some reflashing/unlocking required.
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Hopefully it all goes well and smoothly for everyone else
I'd imagine the worst that could happen is some reflashing/unlocking required.
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Unlocking code is pretty cheap at Ebay. I bought mine for only 7.99 GBP. So no worries...
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I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
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GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
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My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?
oh not bad!
Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
bedeabc; said:
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
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just reflash an older radio
bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .
dallholio said:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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What do these different radio versions mean?
By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy
I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help
Hi all
I have rooted my phone to put a custom rom on using the 1 click method.
I have just put the stock vodafone 1.19 rom back in in prep for hopefully getting the 2.2 update. However i am thinking vodafone will take there usual slow assed time in getting it to us so i would want to put the WWE version on my unbranded Vodafone handset.
Now what i am wondering is how can i install a WWE version when the last time i tried i got a "this is not the correct update for your phone" or similar msg in the install.
is it something to do with this goldcard thing i have seen about here?
thanks all
Also tryed your method and got the same error. Can't seem to find anything on it so for the moment ill stick to 2.1 then update when a modded rom comes out.
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Your phone could need unlocking. However first try a goldcard to flash from vodaphone Rom to stock.
Bring on 2.2
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lennshow66 is right, You need a "gold card" to flash a stock rom, Rooted or not!
Edit: Good guide HERE if you don't know how!
this is interesting...
rob81h said:
lennshow66 is right, You need a "gold card" to flash a stock rom, Rooted or not!
Edit: Good guide HERE if you don't know how!
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actually unrevoked method roots without the need of a goldcard.
Yes but to flash a HTC RUU rom you need a goldcard in your phone because the ruu rom uses it's own bootloader/recovery, If you don't have a goldcard in your phone an official rom will always throw up a ID Error!
Edit: On branded phones!
thanks all thats exactly what i needed to know
Thanks all guys its worked well, goldcard created via the excellent guide and then i installed the stock WWE install. so hopefully as my phone is a vodafone that was auto unlocked and now i have a goldcard i might get the update this weekend
First off, I've had WM phones for years and flashed them to bits but I'm pretty nooby when it comes to Android, so bear with me.
Alrighty then, after all the hoo-ha with the last update I've held off debranding my Orange Desire for all this time - I got mine on Orange launch day so I've had to put up with the Orange crap for a long while. Basically all I want to do it debrand and get FroYo, I'm not interested in rooting yet but I can't really afford to unlock it (student loan is getting very low this summer). I understand I need a Goldcard etc and I'm happy enough with the procedure.
My question, when the 2.2 RUU appears, will it lock my Desire if I flash it with the Goldcard?
edit - Another question, if I flash to an old debranded ROM, will I have to run through the problematic updates before I'm offered the 2.2 OTA update, hence locking my phone?
Use your goldcard for debranding and updating and you should be fine. Personally I would just buy an unlock code and debrand to an older ROM and then do any OTA updates.
Mine is Orange debranded and updated just fine when using the goldcard.
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Use your goldcard for debranding and updating and you should be fine. Personally I would just buy an unlock code and debrand to an older ROM and then do any OTA updates.
Mine is Orange debranded and updated just fine when using the goldcard.
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Thanks for the reply, I'll wait for the RUU and see how it goes I guess.
Anyone know how long it usually takes for the RUU to appear after the OTA is put out?
I been going round here and the web wondering how to do this. I have
hboot 0.83.0001
I made a gold card which seems to have worked out fine so far but no idea where to go from here about updating my phone from 2.1 3 network branded to a non branded firmware. I am not interested in any custom firmware or anything I don't care about extra apps I just want stable 2.2.
I was in exactly the same position as yourself, had a 3 branded desire with same bootloader.
I made a goldcard also but found I didn't need it, I used unrevoked3 to root the phone and install clockwork mod from which I installed a update.zip patch and then a rooted untouched 2.2 Rom and now the phone is still rooted, unbranded and running 2.2 like a charm. Sorry if this explanation is a bit vague.
The Rom I used was 2.09.405.8-update-bravo-stock-rooted-busybox-withradio-signed.zip
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Boot your phone is rooted something I am not interested in really as I want Offical 2.2 unbranded. If I have to root temp to get there I don't mind going hrough the process providing its safe enough. I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.
Go here:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bravo/
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)
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I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.
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Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave
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blizzard authenticator can detect if your phone is rooted and will not boot Blizzard say its for security reasons but I read on net it's not just this app that refuses to boot if it detects a root.
Go here:
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)
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Thanks for this will probably try later I don't understand why I will need the gold card for future updates though??
You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset
Thank you all for this most informative thread, and apologies for the minor hijack.
I have a tmobile branded desire and would also like to be running the stock 2.2 with sense.
Will the above process work for me ?
I was hoping to get the OTA updates OTA however, is there a way of doing this ?
Also, are there any benefits to removing the carrier sim lock even though I have no intention of using an alternative carrier sim ?
Thanks for your time.
edit: I have read a bit more, and, now knowing the warranty issues, I will not be attempting to modify the CID
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You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset
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Your link didnt work anyway once you click download theres an error as the sites been taken over.
So I've been at this one for a while, using information from various threads, getting things wrong, getting things right... now I'm at a loss!
Background
My Desire went faulty. I sent back to HTC. They sent me a new phone. It was locked. They sent me an unlock code. It was then unlocked. It was branded to T-Mobile. I didn't want that. So...
From what I can remember...
First, I flashed (I think that's the correct term) an unbranded version:-
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8_Radio_32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed.exe
I then accepted the OTA update from HTC so that I was on Android Froyo 2.2.
All was well.
I then got anther OTA notification about a week later (2.2.1?).
Downloaded and tried to install, but got the Red Triangle with Exclamation Mark icon.
I read somewhere that I need to Root the phone.
So I did the downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1, changing the HBOOT from something like 0.9x to 0.83.
Used Unrevoked to Root the phone.
Now I get an OTA notification to say that 2.2 is available.
But when I download and try to install, the phone reboots into Clockwork Recovery mode.
What I want
It's simple. I dont want the phone rooted. I want to leave the phone unbranded. I want to be able to accept OTA updates.
...All this was to simply try and debrand the phone, but wasn't expecting such a tough task.
Someone please help!
HTC don't brand their phones, only specific phone operators. If you didn't have any operator logos then you already had an unbranded handset. Having said that, you can't apply an OTA update to a rooted phone as it screws things up
What you need to do is download the 2.29.405.5 RUU and just flash that and you'll be fully up-to-date
Thanks for the info.
I am downloading the 2.29.405.5 RUU as I type.
Will this enable OTA updates in future or will I always have to manually update using this method?
If the RUU installs WITHOUT the use of a gold card then OTA will always work, if you need to use a gold card to flash that RUU then, at present, you'll need to do it this way each time
Okay, so I tried to run the update without a gold card, but got error 131. I presume this indicates that I need a gold card.
I have a gold card, but is there any way to ensure that the future OTA updates can be installed without having to use a gold card?
What else did the error code say? Pretty sure code 140 is wrong CID (need a gold card)
Basically, each phone has a vendor ID. This limits the phone to only install ROMs released for it. The gold card, when in use, masks this code to allow any ROM of any build to be installed. The gold card would then need to be used for all future updates as otherwise they fail
Something happened with the last unbranded OTA update - 2.29.405.5. Even using an gold card the update would fail. Seems Google have changed something to stop people flashing it who aren't truely unbranded
So, to answer your question - If you use a gold card to flash that RUU you MIGHT need to use an RUU each time in future as the OTAs may still fail. We won't know until the next one is released
The error code 131 is Customer ID error. So probably same as 140-CID, therefore I assume I need to use my Gold Card.
I will try using the Gold Card now whilst updating to see if this works ok.
It is disappointing... I wasn't aware that debranding your phone would cause all of these problems. The process was easy and the instructions didn't mention this as a potential downfall. I have my fingers crossed that the next OTA wont fail!
It's only the last OTA that failed, previous ones worked fine so long as the gold card was in use (the gold card can be used as a normal day to day card btw)
Thanks Eddy, you've been a massive help. Was tired of scratching my head for answers... I've been using my gold card as normal anyway so was aware it wasn't much of an impact to update manually... just a bit of a pain of OTAs don't work in future.
How do you know so much? Are you a developer?
I've had my Desire since the phone was released in March/April last year so have a lot of experience. I'm not a developer but I read a lot of threads and this was one that came up a lot when the 2.29.405.5 OTA came out. I do make my own ROMs but they're for my own use (I wouldn't wanna have it take up all my time changing for others!!)
Hopefully it won't be an issue in future OTAs but until one is released we'll never know
On a slightly separate note, can you recommend the best way to Root the Desire... is it using Unrevoked3? Or is this pretty much the only way? Cheers
These days unrEVOked is the only way