Hey guys,
I am a total newb on all this debranding, flashing business. Spend the past week checking all sorts of forums etc and also waiting endlessly for froyo to be released to our Desires! Problem is i am still a bit unclear, so if anyone could give me help, that'd be really nice
Ok, here is the thing:
I have an Orange branded phone, got it via phones4u on orange, ive already unlocked it with a code and currently using 02 Sim on it.
I'd like to retain my warranty, so wouldn't like to root, so my other choice is flashing it right ? :S
I just want the stock froyo on my HTC, but since its orange branded i heard that there might be some problems with radio or something :S
Tbh, I dont even know what radio means! LOL i just want the stock Froyo released by HTC, on my phone without waiting for orange to bring their crapped down version
Any help, please!!!
PS: ive got a spar memory card for any gold card business, just need some pointers for that
De-branding could technically void your warranty but you'll need to search for making a goldcard on the forum and then flash with either 2.1 and update via OTA or Froyo (though I'm not sure that's possible just yet).
oh i see , once i flash it , will i have to install anything else like radios etc? :S
By using the stock rom, does it mean that, next time htc releases a update i can just do it ota?
there is no other way apart from voiding warranty is there ?:S
As you've already unlocked you're good to go! The whole thing should take about 30 minutes but you'll lose all you're data.
I think you'll have to void your warranty but I reckon it's worth it to rid of Monopoly, Bowling, and Orange-bloody-Messenger and get Froyo now.
just one thing what are the chances of my phone bricking up and where can i get the stock rom with froyo released by htc? Also once i got the stock rom, what happens with updates? will OTA be working properly or do i have to reflash it everytime there is an update??
can someone show me a step by step guide on how to do this all? :O
I am a total newb on this
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As you've already unlocked you're good to go! The whole thing should take about 30 minutes but you'll lose all you're data.
I think you'll have to void your warranty but I reckon it's worth it to rid of Monopoly, Bowling, and Orange-bloody-Messenger and get Froyo now.
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Well I've just stepped through that portal... Unlocked the phone then OTA 2.1 update followed by OTA 2.2 stock rom. Now running Froyo on 'Orange' phone.
Flawless, just going through my apps now. Needed the newest version of HTC Sync though.
SavCom said:
Well I've just stepped through that portal... Unlocked the phone then OTA 2.1 update followed by OTA 2.2 stock rom. Now running Froyo on 'Orange' phone.
Flawless, just going through my apps now. Needed the newest version of HTC Sync though.
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oh i see, could you please show me where you got the instructions to get your phone unbranded, where you got the roms and radios etc? still not 100% sure on how to do that :O
Ive decided i am gonna get rid of all this orange crap lol
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As the title says really.
I used to have the HTC Magic, I got when when they first came out and I totally fell in love with Android. A lot of changes since then hehe and the time came to upgrade and living in Europe I chose the Desire...
Now I rooted my Magic almost straight away and was a happy bunny.
Im a bit cautious when it comes to rooting my Desire though. Probably due to the fact its so new and that I know we are supposed to be getting FroYo in a week or so. I figured id just run stock so I can check FroYo out. By this, im assuming when if I did root and install a custom ROM, my Desire isn't likely to recieve the OTA Push for FroYo is it? Or have I got this all wrong?
Any feedback appreciated.
Thanks,
CaRDiaK
If you think the Froyo update for Desire is coming in a week or so, think again. Google haven't even released the source code yet...
yes you will not receive OTA update when it does become available in 2013, but MCR ROM's seem to follow official releases very quickly in my experience...
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
Echinox said:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
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My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?
oh not bad!
Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
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just reflash an older radio
bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .
dallholio said:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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What do these different radio versions mean?
By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy
I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help
Hi,
I downloaded the most recent update from Vodafone which included the splash screen, added bookmarks and apps, none of which I want.
I want to debrand the phone and have created a gold card but when I try to run the rom program (RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.15.405.4_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4. 05.00.11_release_122704.exe and
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe) I get a "error 140, bootloader error". My phone has hboot 0.80 on it.
Is anyone else having this problem or have a solution to it? It seems like the latest Vodafone update (1.24.161.3) has stopped this method from working.
Latest update, so Froyo 2.2 yes??
if so then your going to have to site tight for a while and keep an eye on the Dev section
also see this for info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743865
No, the latest Vodafone update isn't to 2.2, it's still 2.1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
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Thanks, although I don't want to root, I want to debrand the phone and use the stock HTC firmware.
got vodafone NL, and i want te same things. Just stock HTC froyo and no vodafone bull****
I would just root it as I have detailed here i as the OTA updates people are getting are updating their bootloaders to locked ones and can you really see Vodafone releasing Froyo WITHOUT all this new crap they have added?
AndyChecker said:
I would just root it as I have detailed here i as the OTA updates people are getting are updating their bootloaders to locked ones and can you really see Vodafone releasing Froyo WITHOUT all this new crap they have added?
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Is it possible to root the phone and flash with a custom rom, and then from that rom flash to the stock htc rom? I'm new to this so not entirely sure how it all works to be honest.
Yep can do that but when flashing to a stock ROM you loose root
DanTehManUK said:
Yep can do that but when flashing to a stock ROM you loose root
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Oh okay, but it would be possible to re-root in the future if I wanted to? or not?
It would be but it depends on the ROM, ive been hearing stories about peeps on 2.2 and being stuck there (for now)
DanTehManUK said:
It would be but it depends on the ROM, ive been hearing stories about peeps on 2.2 and being stuck there (for now)
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okay, I guess I'll wait a bit and read up on it some more in the mean time. Thanks for your help
Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel
Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.
You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.
Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers
since my rebooting issue has gotten progressively worse, i'm obviously now going to have to get the phone back in for repair.
i assume i'll need to re-root it and re-flash the stock rom to be on the safe side, in case of any accusations i've invalidated the warranty. i know it sounds like a daft question, but what exactly is the stock rom ?
is it the official HTC Sense rom ? i guess i'm so used to using OpenDesire and, more recently, Oxygen, i've kind of lost sight of what the official rom used to look like.
cheers
This is where you have a problem. You need to put the Orange ROM back on it and that is the only ROM never to have been leaked...you'll either have to put a stock WWE ROM on it or hope Orange are nice enough to not invalidate your warranty and fix it regardless...
You could try this but there's no guarantee it'd work...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796975
The method eddyOS posted woirks fine for me I tested it after I debranded my desire then rooted it.
EddyOS said:
This is where you have a problem. You need to put the Orange ROM back on it and that is the only ROM never to have been leaked...you'll either have to put a stock WWE ROM on it or hope Orange are nice enough to not invalidate your warranty and fix it regardless...
You could try this but there's no guarantee it'd work...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796975
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Orange replaced my desire with that rom on it. It but it leaves superuser apk in system apps and probably busybox and whatever else unrevoked adds to /system too. But it will be unrooted with stock radio, recovery and hboot. The only difference is superuser.apk afaik.
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Orange replaced my desire with that rom on it. It but it leaves superuser apk in system apps and probably busybox and whatever else unrevoked adds to /system too. But it will be unrooted with stock radio, recovery and hboot. The only difference is superuser.apk afaik.
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Hi,
does this process also work for SLCD's? or is it just for AMOLEDs.
Ta
Mike
Don't know. Wouldn't reccomend trying untilled you have a definate answer to be honest. I don't think slcd devices were out at the time that image made so it probably don't support it.
I would stick with the stock European unbranded rom myself, ignorance is bliss of they ask anything.
Pretty sure it's AMOLED only...there's a chance an Orange RUU might be available soon
Oh really - keep us posted!
There's nothing wrong with my Orange Desire but I like to know what options are available to unroot it if things go pear shaped.
Thanks for the info.
Assuming an Orange RUU doesn't become available, I would imagine the method mentioned above could be used if anyone was available to supply a NAND from an SLCD on 2.1?
Mike
Cant see anythign bar the startup screen on mine that says " Orange " I have taken off all the demo rubbish ... so they would only know .. by looking at the build number etc... the look of the phone lloks like anything else out there ....
as long as you dont put Windows 7 on there !! LOL should be ok
It wont work with SLCD as it was from the nandroid of my phone which is AMOLED.
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This is where you have a problem. You need to put the Orange ROM back on it and that is the only ROM never to have been leaked...you'll either have to put a stock WWE ROM on it or hope Orange are nice enough to not invalidate your warranty and fix it regardless...
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Appreciate the link - thanks. I'll have to put that rom back on it and hope for the best.
Worst case scenario, i'll just have to sell the desire on ebay and claim ignorance to the rebooting .. not that i'd do that of course
I wouldn't worry too much I had to send back my last phone, a tocco, I had debranded it and ruined the camera by try to flash new firmware on it, they replaced it with no problem. I remember I saw posted in a forum from someone that works at orange claiming they don't check firmware etc anyway
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that's encouraging to know craig, thanks.
i got my desire from phones4u initially, but I got the impression from speaking to the manager today that it would be sent back to HTC rather than Orange.
It's going to be a few days before I can borrow a phone to use in the mean time, so i can always decide if i'm going to follow the procedure to re-root and go back to the stock flash.
I might meet them halfway and just get a rom that looks like it's stock - i've unlocked the handset as well so I'd rather not chance paying to do that again.
Ha HA! It worked
Back to the Orange Sense crap Rom.
God it's horrible. I've been using custom roms for so long, i've forgotten how Sense actually looks
Anyway, it's randombly rebooted twice since i've restored the stock rom so the problem hasn't gone away. but at least i'll be happier sending it back for repair now.
(And it's just rebooted itself a third time while i've been typing this )
I'd first get the 2.2 OTA and make sure it's not fixed in that but yeah send it back if still doing the same. Chances are getting a replacement will leave you with an SLCD screen so this roll back won't be possible
The third reboot actually did happen after the 2.2 update.
I don't mind so much if i get an SLCD screen in a way - as long as I can flash another rom back on to it then i won't mind.
I accept it's a gamble in case it goes wrong again but I really don't want to keep this sense on it any longer than I have to.
this isn't good .. i was fiddling with the phone just now and it randomly rebooted - again.
It came up to the white screen with the HTC logo and didn't move. I popped the battery and turned it back on again and it's now stuck at the HTC screen again.
Getting rather concerned it's just died totally ..
I think it's gone .. i can't even get it in to recovery. My only option is to try the "clear storage" option for a factory reset. if that doesn't work ...