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Froyo Orange

I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.

marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update

I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..

roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...

Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?

rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.

Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.

Echinox said:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?

oh not bad!

Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.

bedeabc; said:
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

just reflash an older radio

bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?

Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .

dallholio said:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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What do these different radio versions mean?

By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy

I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help

Just a few questions

Hi guys....
I m a complete noob regarding android and custom roms and i must confess i find the whole thing a bit confusing..
I m a previous iphone owner where jailbreaking was a straightforward procedure and recently bought an htc desire and this rooting and OTA update thingies got a lot confusion to me...
I live in cyprus and purchased an htc desire from ebay,
it has a T-mobile boot logo but its unlocked...
so i have some questions to make and thanks in advance for any responses....
1. will i be able to retrieve any future OTA updates when HTC releases them like froyo? ( I m asking coz the phone looks like it s not factory unlocked... it has a T mobile boot logo on it)
2.If I root the phone and install an official HTC rom (with sence) will i be able to receive OTA updates?
the whole rootin thing gives me shivers coz i ve heard its a little dangerous... so
3.If i root it and install a custom rom from the community is it going to get updates if the specific team release any? or i m going to repeat the rooting procedure and install a new rom every time its released by them?
I m a bit scared of it.....
Thanks

1) OTA should work but its a branded Desire
2) I dont see why not
3) Installing a custom ROM is fine, just pick someone you like, Defrost, Setrom etc and flash with their latest version,,,, check the forums a week later and there has uaually been an update or some changes
for help Rooting have a look at this, nice and simple, just follow the rooting process for a Branded Desire and Goldcard and you should be fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189

Thanks a lot for your answers m8,
Now things are getting clearer..
DanTehManUK said:
1) OTA should work but its a branded Desire
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Ok, I thought that in case of branded phone, network operators are pushing the updates
DanTehManUK said:
2) I dont see why not
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I be read somewhere that a guy debranded his HTC desire with the official Rom but when he installed some OTA updates, the WiFi broke...
Then a guy advised him that he should root his phone and install a custom Rom instead of the official one, just to avoid future risks with OTA updates..
DanTehManUK said:
3) Installing a custom ROM is fine, just pick someone you like, Defrost, Setrom etc and flash with their latest version,,,, check the forums a week later and there has uaually been an update or some changes
for help Rooting have a look at this, nice and simple, just follow the rooting process for a Branded Desire and Goldcard and you should be fine
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I d prefer to root my phone and install an official Rom....
How can I do that?
How risky is it?
All I want is to debrand my phone and make it like a factory unlocked one, without any future risks...
Thanks!!!

Best bet is GoldCarding it
again follow this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
and then install the ROM in post #4 its the standard HTC ROM but it has the rooted benefits (superuser app etc) thats the best way to keep it simple, the wifi breaking was an issue with the Radio i beleive that wouldent work with the ROM he was running

Ohhh I see
Thanks a lot for your support m8,
So I should first root the phone with goldcard following the guide in post 3,
And then follow the guide " How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock"
In post 4...
Right?

leerock said:
Ohhh I see
Thanks a lot for your support m8,
So I should first root the phone with goldcard following the guide in post 3,
And then follow the guide " How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock"
In post 4...
Right?
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Exactly, so with the GoldCard you can flash to a ROM of your picking but if you feel its not for you flash back to stock and you havent lost anything (except for root)

Advise: Flashing to official FroYo ROM and rooting

Singapore (Asia) Desire owner, which ROM should I get (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667)? Is it the "RUU_Bravo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.19.707.7_Radio_32.36.00.2 8U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126179_signed.exe"?
And how do I root the official FroYo ROM? My friend did it and he told me to check the forums, but I don't see any thread instructing how to root the official ROM. Advice will be deeply appreciated

fterh said:
Singapore (Asia) Desire owner, which ROM should I get (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667)? Is it the "RUU_Bravo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.19.707.7_Radio_32.36.00.2 8U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126179_signed.exe"?
And how do I root the official FroYo ROM? My friend did it and he told me to check the forums, but I don't see any thread instructing how to root the official ROM. Advice will be deeply appreciated
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Use Unrevoked

sumitescp said:
Use Unrevoked
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It works? Tested?
And so do I use that RUU? Or the .zips listed below?

I need help! I made a goldcard using this guide (http://www.roothtchero.co.uk/goldcard-2), ran the "RUU_Bravo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.19.707.7_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126179_signed.exe" RUU as administrator, and followed the instructions. But halfway through I got this error:
Error message said:
Error [140]: BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your Android phone.
Please get the correct ROM Update Utility and try again.
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your bootloader version is wrong.
look for the correct version of the RUU

Okay, my bootloader version is 0.80 so I downloaded the RUU for that (RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed) but I get another error:
Error message said:
ERROR [131]: CUSTOMER ID ERROR
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your Android phone.
Please get the correct ROM Update Utility and try again.
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I use Unrevoked for mac.
work like a charm.
Use run it & choose the rom u wan to flash from menu.

Okay I know where I went wrong already. Now I'm on the 1.21.405.2 ROM but I am not getting the FroYo update! Any ideas?

Because it's not out yet?

fterh said:
Okay I know where I went wrong already. Now I'm on the 1.21.405.2 ROM but I am not getting the FroYo update! Any ideas?
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We all have that problem at the moment

But my friend has gotten it? And I thought it is supposed to be released this couple days?

since when singapore is getting it first?
it's suppose to be released in europe this weekend.

If I'm on the RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2 ROM I won't get the Singapore FroYo ROM right? But I can't flash the RUU_Bravo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.19.707.7 one, it says wrong bootloader version. LOL.

Update now available! (According to http://htc-desire-get-froyo.u4y.eu/)

You do realise if you update to the "Official Froyo from HTC" you may NEVER be able to root your phone again don't you?

StuMcBill said:
You do realise if you update to the "Official Froyo from HTC" you may NEVER be able to root your phone again don't you?
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Won't unrevoked's rooting program work?

No, because, if going by the leaked Froyo / Sense roms, these come with a new HBOOT version, which at this time, cannot be rooted by any current methods.
I suggest keeping your phone rooted as it is, and when the official OTA arrives, wait for a dev to have a look at it, removes the HBOOT and roots the ROM.

StuMcBill said:
No, because, if going by the leaked Froyo / Sense roms, these come with a new HBOOT version, which at this time, cannot be rooted by any current methods.
I suggest keeping your phone rooted as it is, and when the official OTA arrives, wait for a dev to have a look at it, removes the HBOOT and roots the ROM.
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On that note.
I used to have a Windows Phone (Touch HD) and loved Miri's ROMs as he used all the latest versions of the OS and stock software, with no added extras such as apps/graphics. Is there a ROM developer like that on the Android side?
One thing I dont want is my phone to end up unrootable and be versions behind on the OS because HTC have abandoned us

You can try DeFroST or OpenDesire. They are two of the most popular ROMs around. I was on DeFroST and all was well till 2.5a (didn't like the new notification LED's colors) so I am gonna try OpenDesire now.

fterh said:
Won't unrevoked's rooting program work?
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unrevoked doesn't root a ROM (does it?), it just helps you apply an already rooted ROM.
Someone will need to root the ROM first.

UK O2, how to get froyo?

My mate has a O2 desire in the uk and OTA update is not available for him. What is the best way to get it?
Can he root the phone and then install it via ROM manager? Or does it need to be debranded? His software version is 1.20.207.3

325i. said:
My mate has a O2 desire in the uk and OTA update is not available for him. What is the best way to get it?
Can he root the phone and then install it via ROM manager? Or does it need to be debranded?
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needs to be debranded i'm on o2 and tried debranding mine, came across a load of faults and errors so i'm gonna wait for o2 official update, the best way to get it is to get a stock rom put that on ya phone then update.

Thank you, whats the best way to put a stock ROM on it?
Any guide?
cheers

325i. said:
Thank you, whats the best way to put a stock ROM on it?
Any guide?
cheers
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you can get the stock roms from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
but i cant help you installing them as i have had a load of trouble my self.

Thanks, lastly. If he wants to install a custom ROM, can he root via unrevoked or does he still need to debrand?

not sure about custom roms and updates sorry

325i. said:
Thanks, lastly. If he wants to install a custom ROM, can he root via unrevoked or does he still need to debrand?
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The best way is to just get it debranded.

Thank you, have you got a guide on how to debrand a O2 desire? Or is the same process for all desires?
Reason i ask, i have seen threads where people on orange have had problems.

Am i about to kill my HD?

I have a Orange branded DHD, unlocked via IMEI, running 2.3.3, i want to install the HTC rom as i have been told it comes with far less bloatware.
I do want a genuine rom though, rather than a cooked version, so have opted for the HTC rom. I found and downloaded the following file which claims to be what i need.
Am i correct?
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.36.405.8_R_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_187331_signed
Also, as it is a genuine rom, do i still need to do all that "rooting" business?
Or can i go ahead and install/flash?
Thanks for any possible help or tips.

leethedon1 said:
I have a Orange branded DHD, unlocked via IMEI, running 2.3.3, i want to install the HTC rom as i have been told it comes with far less bloatware.
I do want a genuine rom though, rather than a cooked version, so have opted for the HTC rom. I found and downloaded the following file which claims to be what i need.
Am i correct?
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.36.405.8_R_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_187331_signed
Also, as it is a genuine rom, do i still need to do all that "rooting" business?
Or can i go ahead and install/flash?
Thanks for any possible help or tips.
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If your phone is allready rooted then, after installing the new Official ROM it will be unrooted again, You can try downgrading to the official 1.3x version and then update from HTC direclty. I dont know if you gonna have any problems
because your phone is branded, but i dont rly think so. Im just a user using roms etc, have no idea for further instructions!

Considering you paid a hefty sum for your Desire HD, i strongly recommend you first find your branded rom somewhere in the dev forum first. Just in case you have to reflash teh stock rom for warranty issues. For the rest, I also recommend downgrading to 1.3x first and then flashing whatever you want (cooked roms need s-offs and root). I have a guide in my sig on how to root, s-off and flash a rom, however, stock roms are executables from what i know so you might not need to follow my guide just plug in your dhd with drivers installed and let the exe do its work. Regarding downgrading, you will find a link in my thread to the "Downgrading to 1.3x thread". Have fun
Edit:
I know of 3 ways to brick your dhd:
1. Partitioning your sd card with clockwork mod recovery 3.0.2.5
2. Editing some esf files or something and mistyping something
3. SMashing your phone into a brick wall repeatedly
So, don't worry so much, it's not a galaxy S

Yes, the file i have is an executable file. I think it is the most recent genuine HTC rom available for this device.
So, that being said, i should not need to root or downgrade etc? Just double click & go?
Surly you should not have to root your device when wanting to install a different, but still genuine rom?
I have found it very difficult to locate stock roms for this device.
Going to have another search now, but if anyone knows a shortcut, i'd be more than gratefull

leethedon1 said:
Yes, the file i have is an executable file. I think it is the most recent genuine HTC rom available for this device.
So, that being said, i should not need to root or downgrade etc? Just double click & go?
Surly you should not have to root your device when wanting to install a different, but still genuine rom?
I have found it very difficult to locate stock roms for this device.
Going to have another search now, but if anyone knows a shortcut, i'd be more than gratefull
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You will need to downgrade first as your device is branded. Once downgraded just run the RUU and Bobs your mothers brother.

If you have an orange dhd you will need the orange upgrade. I'm pretty sure if you try to use a different one it won't let you do it. I'm not 100‰on this.
I used to get android updates for T-Mobile brand off the T-Mobile website.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

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If you have an orange dhd you will need the orange upgrade. I'm pretty sure if you try to use a different one it won't let you do it. I'm not 100‰on this.
I used to get android updates for T-Mobile brand off the T-Mobile website.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
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Which is why you need to downgrade.

@ ghostofcain
And to downgrade is it just a simple rom flash? Or do i need to root or s-off etc first?
I know this would be the case with cooked roms, but i'm only talking about Genuine releases here.
I'm currently running an Orange branded 2.3.3 ROM, so if i simply flash an older rom to the device, then i am all set to flash the newest HTC generic rom to the Desire, right?
That older rom i need to flash first, it would have to be Orange branded too right? Is there any chance you could give me it's exact name or provide a link?
Thanks greatly for the help.

leethedon1 said:
@ ghostofcain
And to downgrade is it just a simple rom flash? Or do i nee- talking about Genuine releases here.
I'm currently running an Orange branded 2.3.3 ROM, so if i simply flash an older rom to the device, then i am all set to flash the newest HTC generic rom to the Desire, right?
That older rom i need to flash first, it would have to be Orange branded too right? Is there any chance you could give me it's exact name or provide a link?
Thanks greatly for the help.
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Once you have downgraded you don't need root or s-off to flash the RUU and you don't have to flash an orange branded one. You can flash any updated .exe.
if I have time ill find you a link..
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Also bear in mind if you flash the orange ruu. Or any other branded rom. It will still have all the bloatware you are trying to get rid of.
You must flash a standard HTC one. Go to the HTC website and download the official update from there. You will need to downgrade first though.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

@ twiztedvvv
That's the problem, the HTC 2.3.3 rom was only ever released OTA, and is not available to download from their website.
Although i think i have managed to find the ".exe" version of that rom.
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.36.405.8_R_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_187331_signed
From what i can tell, this seems to be the newest, Genuine HTC 2.3.3 rom for the Desire HD.
So, i just need to downgrade and then install this right?
So what do i need & what do i do to downgrade, bearing in mind what i currently have installed?

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
follow this guide. downgrade to 1.32 and then flash the ruu you have. don't worry if its not the right one it won't install it if it's wrong. hit the thanks button if I've helped.

twiztedvvv said:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
follow this guide. downgrade to 1.32 and then flash the ruu you have. don't worry if its not the right one it won't install it if it's wrong. hit the thanks button if I've helped.
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Ok, so where would i find this 1.32 rom?
Also, when i have this HTC rom loaded on, will i still receive any OTA updates? And would they be HTC branded one's from that point on?

leethedon1 said:
Ok, so where would i find this 1.32 rom?
Also, when i have this HTC rom loaded on, will i still receive any OTA updates? And would they be HTC branded one's from that point on?
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the 1.32 downgrade should be in the link I sent you. I'm not sure about the ota updates. its seriously worth considering doing a full root after you dg and try out some of the fantastic roms some of which are kept as stock but you have more options and root privilages.

leethedon1 said:
Ok, so where would i find this 1.32 rom?
Also, when i have this HTC rom loaded on, will i still receive any OTA updates? And would they be HTC branded one's from that point on?
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You have to downgrade and use a goldcard to de-brand your phone. You cannot flash a standard WWE ROM on a branded phone. After you have completed the steps of de-branding and flashing the latest WWE ROM.... OTA updates may or may not work.
Everything you have asked about is already thoroughly documented elsewhere in the forum and I suggest you go read all the stickies. Do not do anything with your phone that you do not fully understand as you could run into problems.
With Regards to warranty and such-like that people have mentioned, HTC don't really care what you do to the phone software-wise, they might have a problem if you returned it too them in pieces claiming that it just came out of your pocket that way.
Just read everything here and you should be good to go.
Peace.