Hi guys....
I m a complete noob regarding android and custom roms and i must confess i find the whole thing a bit confusing..
I m a previous iphone owner where jailbreaking was a straightforward procedure and recently bought an htc desire and this rooting and OTA update thingies got a lot confusion to me...
I live in cyprus and purchased an htc desire from ebay,
it has a T-mobile boot logo but its unlocked...
so i have some questions to make and thanks in advance for any responses....
1. will i be able to retrieve any future OTA updates when HTC releases them like froyo? ( I m asking coz the phone looks like it s not factory unlocked... it has a T mobile boot logo on it)
2.If I root the phone and install an official HTC rom (with sence) will i be able to receive OTA updates?
the whole rootin thing gives me shivers coz i ve heard its a little dangerous... so
3.If i root it and install a custom rom from the community is it going to get updates if the specific team release any? or i m going to repeat the rooting procedure and install a new rom every time its released by them?
I m a bit scared of it.....
Thanks
1) OTA should work but its a branded Desire
2) I dont see why not
3) Installing a custom ROM is fine, just pick someone you like, Defrost, Setrom etc and flash with their latest version,,,, check the forums a week later and there has uaually been an update or some changes
for help Rooting have a look at this, nice and simple, just follow the rooting process for a Branded Desire and Goldcard and you should be fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Thanks a lot for your answers m8,
Now things are getting clearer..
DanTehManUK said:
1) OTA should work but its a branded Desire
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Ok, I thought that in case of branded phone, network operators are pushing the updates
DanTehManUK said:
2) I dont see why not
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I be read somewhere that a guy debranded his HTC desire with the official Rom but when he installed some OTA updates, the WiFi broke...
Then a guy advised him that he should root his phone and install a custom Rom instead of the official one, just to avoid future risks with OTA updates..
DanTehManUK said:
3) Installing a custom ROM is fine, just pick someone you like, Defrost, Setrom etc and flash with their latest version,,,, check the forums a week later and there has uaually been an update or some changes
for help Rooting have a look at this, nice and simple, just follow the rooting process for a Branded Desire and Goldcard and you should be fine
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I d prefer to root my phone and install an official Rom....
How can I do that?
How risky is it?
All I want is to debrand my phone and make it like a factory unlocked one, without any future risks...
Thanks!!!
Best bet is GoldCarding it
again follow this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
and then install the ROM in post #4 its the standard HTC ROM but it has the rooted benefits (superuser app etc) thats the best way to keep it simple, the wifi breaking was an issue with the Radio i beleive that wouldent work with the ROM he was running
Ohhh I see
Thanks a lot for your support m8,
So I should first root the phone with goldcard following the guide in post 3,
And then follow the guide " How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock"
In post 4...
Right?
leerock said:
Ohhh I see
Thanks a lot for your support m8,
So I should first root the phone with goldcard following the guide in post 3,
And then follow the guide " How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock"
In post 4...
Right?
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Exactly, so with the GoldCard you can flash to a ROM of your picking but if you feel its not for you flash back to stock and you havent lost anything (except for root)
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Got an HTC Desire from work on O2. We had it unlocked the other day by O2 and I'm now running it with an Orange SIM. I thought that once unlocked Froyo would be available but when I check the software update I'm shown that I've got 2.1 running and no updates available.
Help!
digital_vibe said:
Got an HTC Desire from work on O2. We had it unlocked the other day by O2 and I'm now running it with an Orange SIM. I thought that once unlocked Froyo would be available but when I check the software update I'm shown that I've got 2.1 running and no updates available.
Help!
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You've probably got a branded desire, you would need to flash an unbranded rom and then search for updates I think.
Hi mate,
If you use the Root meathod by search the forum for Unvolked meathod install the recovery program by following the guide, then putting the flash zip update froyo rom from this forum on your sd card, backup using nandroid then flash and when phone restarts you have updated 2.2 android on the phone.
Any problems send me a msg.
i dig out some instructions for you, that i followed, the guys on here are excellent when it comes to helping you, see my post help please, in development sections.
Post below :
www.rootmydroid.co.uk then click "desire" on the right
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Thanks
Tapper
Yes. That would be the quickest way to get Froyo 2.2.
It will also void your warranty though.
That is true, however HTC state if you root your HTC at your own risk,
but my phone provider stated if i have any problems they don't check.
Im with Virginmedia. mobile. who are putting the rom out next month and your have to download and zip so you will need to root it to do that.
Thanks
Tapper
Hi,
Will be receiving an Vodafone upgrade Desire HD soon and was wondering, what do I need to do before I can flash a custom ROM? Cheers
Try to use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003 or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
It was really helpful for rooting my vodafone locked DHD
Thanks, I have no idea how to use adb etc....
So I need to create a gold card? Then I can root and flash a custom Rom?
There is no need for a gold card on Vodafone with DHD as it will most likely be stock pretty much, as long as there is no Vodafone logo or branding
scent from my armpit
Hi
I dont have the phone yet but on the box image I can see Vodafone services like Vodafone 360 apps on the homescreen.
yes u need to create a goldcard, it's really simple follow the guide provided, because your phone will arrive with a 1.72 o .75 baseband version. And till now, goldcard option, is the only way to downgrade to 1.32. Maybe in the next days there will be something new as a new version of visionary+.
So, when I have goldcarded it, I can then root, and flash custom roms?
I'm being careful here and dont want to brick a new handset.
Your advice is appreciated
Maybe mine is different as I got mine through carphonewarehouse, in fact most likely it was different, but I had no need for a goldcard. Best of luck.
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Sn0tters said:
Maybe mine is different as I got mine through carphonewarehouse, in fact most likely it was different, but I had no need for a goldcard. Best of luck.
scent from my armpit
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So how will I know if I don't need to goldcard mine? How did u know that yours was already unlocked?
Sent via my Lee Droid custom HTC Desire mobile phone by the power of Grey Skull......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824357&highlight=stock+rom
Download one of the stock Roms, not 1.15.405.1 and just connect your USB and run it, few next button clicks, wait for few min and you’re done!
I used 1.32.405.6 to debrand my vodafone phone so later on if i want to root it i can. you cant with 1.72.405.3
I spent days goggling and searching on the forum on how to remove Vodafone branded rubbish from my DHD, people saying only way is to root it bla bla bla.
After i was half way through rooting my phone got to the point of making goldcard and it took hours to get to that point reading up on rooting (still don’t understand most of it) and because of not so great step by step guide and android updating their sdk that screwed up the step by step info.
ijob said:
Hi,
Will be receiving an Vodafone upgrade Desire HD soon and was wondering, what do I need to do before I can flash a custom ROM? Cheers
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I know,that I flashed mine as soon as the NAND lock was cracked, but my advice would be to play around with it for a few days before and make sure that you want it rooting and more importantly whether you like / want Sense, it's a great device and would be a shame to waste the opportunity to get to know it in it's virgin state first, but a good start would be to read up here
Over 4 hours of hard work and its now downgraded, debranded, unlocked, fully rooted, s-off and now running a custom Rom. Last night was intense but the advice provided here meant that I had easy access to guides and tools so MANY THANKS FOLKS!
I had to do the lot!
Sent from the back of Michael Caine's Mini Cooper S, holding on for dear life......
Enjoy!!! For me it was the same hard work
Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!
Daenekindternational said:
Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!
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before to root you must to downgrade your device,, but mate... browse "downgrade dhd" in the XDA browser avobe... i´m sure that your going to find it quickly...
Daenekindternational said:
Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!
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take this link its the same question answered few posts ago...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064229
use the browse before (my recomendation) its faster that post an ask
cheers and sorry for my bad english buddy!!
Do I need to downgrade to android 2.2 again (or something, sorry I'm totally new at this) before I can root my device?
So there's no way to root it when it's still has gingerbread?
Daenekindternational said:
Do I need to downgrade to android 2.2 again (or something, sorry I'm totally new at this) before I can root my device?
So there's no way to root it when it's still has gingerbread?
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nope.. the only one rom rootable its 1.32xxx WEE OFICIAL RUU
BUT DON´T WORRY DOWNGRADE ITS AN EASY STEP..
if you need help post again in Q&A mate...
First, I need to downgrade (but I don't understand the gold card)
Then I need to root
Then I need it to be s-off? And then I can install custom recoveries (= custom roms??), but what if I don't want custom roms?
If I just want to tweak a bit with the gingerbread+sense version I have at the moment (changing icons in notification bar, changing bootscreen etc), do I still need to continue with the s-off step?
Or can I only tweak with the things I want if I have a custom rom?
Daenekindternational said:
First, I need to downgrade (but I don't understand the gold card)
Then I need to root
Then I need it to be s-off? And then I can install custom recoveries (= custom roms??), but what if I don't want custom roms?
If I just want to tweak a bit with the gingerbread+sense version I have at the moment (changing icons in notification bar, changing bootscreen etc), do I still need to continue with the s-off step?
Or can I only tweak with the things I want if I have a custom rom?
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okay let´s do it...
if you want to flash later another different baseband (radio) you need s-off & you must to continue doing it... (with Radio s-off tool... etc..)
but its not neccesary for to flash a new rom...
custom recovery isn´t a rom..
custom rec. its a menú that you need for to flash roms... etc into your machine..
neccesary for recover your system if anything goes badly (IMPORTANT)...
AND FINALLY... you can flash custom roms that are not ported from another device or are not themed etcc... simply are OFFICIAL ROMS (WEE OFFICIAL RUU named) only with root acces, (deodexed, zipaligned...etc for better performance... sometimes upper that 50 % speedup!! )
if you flashes a official rom without root incorporated your going to lose your work (root... recovery,, etc.. but not s-off)
i recommend to you that continue doing s-off and eng-off for obtain "CID 111111" (BROWSE what is this an judge by yourself )
Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks
i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait
I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50
Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long
Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0
Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !
Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..
I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome
Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.
Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong
giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread
I'm root curious as I want to remove my carriers branded software, and after the lastest update my phone has developed a lag, so I am considering rooting and a rom but I am confused.
The how to root guide talks about downgrading? Is this a good idea?
Do I need permanent root?
Thanks in advance..
HTC Desire HD A9191 in the UK on Orange
android 2.3.5
sense 3.0
I cant remember the exact process as i rooted my phone more than a year ago.
Basically you need to gain temp root, then downgrade in order to achieve permanent root.
toys19 said:
I'm root curious as I want to remove my carriers branded software, and after the lastest update my phone has developed a lag, so I am considering rooting and a rom but I am confused.
The how to root guide talks about downgrading? Is this a good idea?
Do I need permanent root?
Thanks in advance..
HTC Desire HD A9191 in the UK on Orange
android 2.3.5
sense 3.0
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Yes, you need to dowgrade first. You can folllow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
Is a one step process to root, S-OFF, supercid, custom recovery etc. Then you will be able to flash any custom rom or a stock rooted rom.
Follow the instructions very carefully.
Ah Ok so does that mean you cannot root unless you downgrade? So when you install a custom rom does it upgrade you again?
I'm kind of lost as to why running older/downgraded software is good idea once you have gained root?
toys19 said:
Ah Ok so does that mean you cannot root unless you downgrade? So when you install a custom rom does it upgrade you again?
I'm kind of lost as to why running older/downgraded software is good idea once you have gained root?
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The problem is that on DHD is not possible to root (actually) if you have android 2.3.5.
So you need to downgrade first. Once you have rooted the phone you can flash a Stock rooted android 2.3.5 sense 3.0 (like the one you have now) or a custom rom.
This one is a stock rooted android 2.3.5 sense 3.0 for example (f you like the stock feeling) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382235.
Hope it helps
Clarifies it perfectly. I understand now, thanks very much for your reply.
Glad it helped
The next question then is - I guess what I really want is to keep my phone as it is now. So If I do the advanced ace hack , install that stock rom above, my phone will be exactly the same (like with all my settings etc? except I can uninstall all the crappy orange bloatware etc?
toys19 said:
The next question then is - I guess what I really want is to keep my phone as it is now. So If I do the advanced ace hack , install that stock rom above, my phone will be exactly the same (like with all my settings etc? except I can uninstall all the crappy orange bloatware etc?
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When you will run the ace hack kit you will be prompted to download a RUU in order to downgrade. Be carefull and chose the WWE (world wide english) and not a branded one. Doing so you will get rid of all crappy bloatware.
If you will download the rom I linked, your phone will be exactly as it is now (not the settings of course, you will lose your settings).
It will be as out of the box and need to set again.
Just be carefull and follow exactly (read twice and even more) the instructions.
OK I am doing mucho reading as we speak!
Good. I did it too.
Read, learn and try. It's the only way.
I bought my DHD in February 2011 and googled aroud this forums to learn, finally on december I decided to join. Good luck!!