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Froyo Orange

I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.

marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update

I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..

roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...

Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?

rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.

Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.

Echinox said:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?

oh not bad!

Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.

bedeabc; said:
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

just reflash an older radio

bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?

Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .

dallholio said:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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What do these different radio versions mean?

By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy

I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help

Just a few questions

Hi guys....
I m a complete noob regarding android and custom roms and i must confess i find the whole thing a bit confusing..
I m a previous iphone owner where jailbreaking was a straightforward procedure and recently bought an htc desire and this rooting and OTA update thingies got a lot confusion to me...
I live in cyprus and purchased an htc desire from ebay,
it has a T-mobile boot logo but its unlocked...
so i have some questions to make and thanks in advance for any responses....
1. will i be able to retrieve any future OTA updates when HTC releases them like froyo? ( I m asking coz the phone looks like it s not factory unlocked... it has a T mobile boot logo on it)
2.If I root the phone and install an official HTC rom (with sence) will i be able to receive OTA updates?
the whole rootin thing gives me shivers coz i ve heard its a little dangerous... so
3.If i root it and install a custom rom from the community is it going to get updates if the specific team release any? or i m going to repeat the rooting procedure and install a new rom every time its released by them?
I m a bit scared of it.....
Thanks

1) OTA should work but its a branded Desire
2) I dont see why not
3) Installing a custom ROM is fine, just pick someone you like, Defrost, Setrom etc and flash with their latest version,,,, check the forums a week later and there has uaually been an update or some changes
for help Rooting have a look at this, nice and simple, just follow the rooting process for a Branded Desire and Goldcard and you should be fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189

Thanks a lot for your answers m8,
Now things are getting clearer..
DanTehManUK said:
1) OTA should work but its a branded Desire
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Ok, I thought that in case of branded phone, network operators are pushing the updates
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2) I dont see why not
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I be read somewhere that a guy debranded his HTC desire with the official Rom but when he installed some OTA updates, the WiFi broke...
Then a guy advised him that he should root his phone and install a custom Rom instead of the official one, just to avoid future risks with OTA updates..
DanTehManUK said:
3) Installing a custom ROM is fine, just pick someone you like, Defrost, Setrom etc and flash with their latest version,,,, check the forums a week later and there has uaually been an update or some changes
for help Rooting have a look at this, nice and simple, just follow the rooting process for a Branded Desire and Goldcard and you should be fine
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I d prefer to root my phone and install an official Rom....
How can I do that?
How risky is it?
All I want is to debrand my phone and make it like a factory unlocked one, without any future risks...
Thanks!!!

Best bet is GoldCarding it
again follow this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
and then install the ROM in post #4 its the standard HTC ROM but it has the rooted benefits (superuser app etc) thats the best way to keep it simple, the wifi breaking was an issue with the Radio i beleive that wouldent work with the ROM he was running

Ohhh I see
Thanks a lot for your support m8,
So I should first root the phone with goldcard following the guide in post 3,
And then follow the guide " How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock"
In post 4...
Right?

leerock said:
Ohhh I see
Thanks a lot for your support m8,
So I should first root the phone with goldcard following the guide in post 3,
And then follow the guide " How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock"
In post 4...
Right?
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Exactly, so with the GoldCard you can flash to a ROM of your picking but if you feel its not for you flash back to stock and you havent lost anything (except for root)

No problems on Froyo OTA with debranded Orange France

Hi all,
Since the last OTA created plenty of problems to debranded Orange owners, I just wanted to let everybody know that I did install the OTA and did not find any problem so far.... everything went smoothly in updating OTA from the latest RUU update. No need for gold cards or complicated procedures
Sent from my HTC Desire

Can I ask which method did you use to originally debrand your phone? Which rome did you flash to?

The 405 RUU that had been posted around may on these forums... see here for a full list:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Very easy, all you need is to make a gold card. Things get slightly more messy if you are not a Windows user.
Sent from my HTC Desire

JaykaySLO said:
Can I ask which method did you use to originally debrand your phone? Which rome did you flash to?
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for my own device :
It was Orange France 1.22 ROM;
I rooted my device with UnrEVOked;
Then I use the downgrade method that uses fake ROM version reporting to RUU;
Installed full Europe_1.15 HTC ROM;
And install all OTA updates, as when asked.
Note : I alway have my gold card in it, and I never got any trouble.

Thanks. I dont want to root my phone just debrand it to receive OTA`s directly from HTc and not wait for carrier specific.
Question: is it safer to flash it to 1.15 and then do OTA to 1.21 and Froyo or flash directly with 1.21?

Directly 1.21, if I did not screw up version numbers it was the jump from 1.15 to 1.21 that created the problem when done in OTA (WiFi module could not be loaded correctly)
Sent from my HTC Desire

ql. did you have to have your goldcard in while doing the FROYO update?

Yes
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

How do I know if my Desire is rooted?

I bought a handset off another forum a couple of months back and I think it's a fully unbranded handset, and have been trying to run the 2.2 update, except everytime I get to the green sync symbol after it restarts, I then get a red question mark.
I'm running
Firmware 2.1 update1
Build number .1.1.405.2 CL174215 release keys
Software number 1.21.405.2
So is this rooted? Either way, how do I get the Froyo update to work?
Many thanks!

normalnix said:
I bought a handset off another forum a couple of months back and I think it's a fully unbranded handset, and have been trying to run the 2.2 update, except everytime I get to the green sync symbol after it restarts, I then get a red question mark.
I'm running
Firmware 2.1 update1
Build number .1.1.405.2 CL174215 release keys
Software number 1.21.405.2
So is this rooted? Either way, how do I get the Froyo update to work?
Many thanks!
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You will know if it is rooted cos you wont be able to pull it out the ground lol
Only jokin if you phone is rooted you will have a program in your apps called super user.
hope this helps

I have something called superuser permissions. Is that it? As you can gather, I'm a bit of a thicky so an idiots guide would be great!

normalnix said:
I have something called superuser permissions. Is that it? As you can gather, I'm a bit of a thicky so an idiots guide would be great!
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Yeah thats the one your phone is rooted

Ok. That answers the first part I guess then. Any ideas how I get to Froyo? I can download the update, but it always fails to do it's thing.
Do I have to restore the phone or what? And how?

is your phone branded in any way? even a start up logo ?
and where can you download the update? from system software updates on your phone?

There's no branding on the phone, box or software. I can download the update via software updates.
PS. Thanks for the help so far!

If you can download it from software updates go for it froyo here we go,
no branding is a good sign

Just try updating via the update manager as that should work.

LOL
That's the problem. It doesn't work!

Same thing with me....
I bought a Telstra Branded Handset. Had a company root and install a generic rom. (Telstra handset because it works on ATT 3G.) This morning, the phone told me that I had an Android Software Update (Version 2.2). The phone downloaded it, but wouldn't install. I imagine because the dang thing is rooted.
I will wait a few days for someone to offer a desire rom with 2.2 and HTC sense.

Is there an easy way to restore the handset to it's original software so I can upgrade from there?

Look for the Unrooting guide in the (sticky) guides collection. I believe it just involves flashing a stock rom. But currently you won't be able to root your phone after official OTA froyo update, since it flashes your hboot too. Alternatively you can flash a rooted froyo ROM without hboot.
Edit: Look in development forum for the sticky guide. The place to be for topics like this; it makes them obsolete.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Many thanks!
For further info, see 'How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock' in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710092&postcount=4
It took a bit of time to download all the updates, but I got there in the end.

My Desire is rooted, 2.1, not 2.2 Froyo, I wish. But I am trying to things in the file management like install and move around apk files. But it wont allow saying I have no permissions. Rooted to me means God access, but its not really god access. Any ideas why?

jontokyo said:
My Desire is rooted, 2.1, not 2.2 Froyo, I wish. But I am trying to things in the file management like install and move around apk files. But it wont allow saying I have no permissions. Rooted to me means God access, but its not really god access. Any ideas why?
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Even if you are rooted, you will have READ ONLY access to /system due to NAND protection. You can only write to /system from recovery.
Regards,
Dave

hi
i am new to andriod rom i am using htc desire hd how do i found that my phone is rooted or not please help thanks in advance

nagagaya said:
i am new to andriod rom i am using htc desire hd how do i found that my phone is rooted or not please help thanks in advance
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2nd post. If you have a superuser app, you are rooted.

[Q] Updating to 2.2

I've just bought a brand new desire on an O2 contract, which of course means it was locked to O2 only. I've now unlocked it and am using my Voda SIM card in it which is working perfectly.
However, today I read that Vodaphone relased the 2.2 OTA update, but when I try to check for updates it says my phones software is up to date.
Does this mean I need to put the official Vodaphone ROM on to allow me to update to 2.2? I'm a bit put off about rooting my device though, as I've got the 0.83 bootloader and I'm pretty sure it's a SLCD screen, which I've heard can have a few issues if putting new ROM's onto.
Cheers for any advice,

You are running branded O2 software, so you will not get Vodafone's update. You need to wait for O2 to release an update, or debrand and run stock 2.2.

OK, cheers mate

Jamman3 said:
OK, cheers mate
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or debrand, root flash a stock 2.1, unroot and update OTA to 2.2
hope this helps! good Luck!