I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
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My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?
oh not bad!
Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
bedeabc; said:
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
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just reflash an older radio
bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .
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Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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What do these different radio versions mean?
By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy
I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help
if i debrand my uk tmobile desire with a goldcard and a 1.21etc ruu, will it network lock me?
hearing conflicting reports on this.
just going to debrand today if possible, so i can get OTA 2.2. not interested in custom roms or root at all.
I just debranded my T-Mobile Desire with RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.
No problems. Should have backed up my settings and data, because installing the ROM will clear everything, but it's worth it just to get 2.2.
After that froyo showed up when pressing check for updates.
I debranded my phone from orange.
My network got locked. However, I just need to pay 7.99 GBP to buy a code from an Ebayer and I got the phone unlocked in 5 mins.
So i think it is not a problem to debrand.
Are you guys able to upgrade to FroYo now? I'll be debranding and installing a debranded 2.1 when I get home.
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Are you guys able to upgrade to FroYo now? I'll be debranding and installing a debranded 2.1 when I get home.
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Yes. Already installed and using it now! =D
Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel
Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.
You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.
Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers
Got an HTC Desire from work on O2. We had it unlocked the other day by O2 and I'm now running it with an Orange SIM. I thought that once unlocked Froyo would be available but when I check the software update I'm shown that I've got 2.1 running and no updates available.
Help!
digital_vibe said:
Got an HTC Desire from work on O2. We had it unlocked the other day by O2 and I'm now running it with an Orange SIM. I thought that once unlocked Froyo would be available but when I check the software update I'm shown that I've got 2.1 running and no updates available.
Help!
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You've probably got a branded desire, you would need to flash an unbranded rom and then search for updates I think.
Hi mate,
If you use the Root meathod by search the forum for Unvolked meathod install the recovery program by following the guide, then putting the flash zip update froyo rom from this forum on your sd card, backup using nandroid then flash and when phone restarts you have updated 2.2 android on the phone.
Any problems send me a msg.
i dig out some instructions for you, that i followed, the guys on here are excellent when it comes to helping you, see my post help please, in development sections.
Post below :
www.rootmydroid.co.uk then click "desire" on the right
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Tapper
Yes. That would be the quickest way to get Froyo 2.2.
It will also void your warranty though.
That is true, however HTC state if you root your HTC at your own risk,
but my phone provider stated if i have any problems they don't check.
Im with Virginmedia. mobile. who are putting the rom out next month and your have to download and zip so you will need to root it to do that.
Thanks
Tapper
Hi guys,
I got a Desire HD from Vodafone australia, currently voda is rolling out the Gingerbread update.
When I first got my phone I rooted s-off'd and all that and loaded cyanogenmod.
All in all it started having issues so I installed an RUU of the 1.72.405.3 generic. Originally it had 1.32 voda branded rom on it. Now everytime I go to check for updates there doesn't seem to be any.
All my friends desire hds have got the update but mine. So I am wondering if anyone else with the 1.72 from has received the update and or if I will get it due to not using the original rom.
try installing the original voda RUU. then update
Why don't you update to 2.3 with an ruu file, the file has been out there for a while. (not on the PC or I would provide you a link)
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
robboek said:
Hi guys,
I got a Desire HD from Vodafone australia, currently voda is rolling out the Gingerbread update.
When I first got my phone I rooted s-off'd and all that and loaded cyanogenmod.
All in all it started having issues so I installed an RUU of the 1.72.405.3 generic. Originally it had 1.32 voda branded rom on it. Now everytime I go to check for updates there doesn't seem to be any.
All my friends desire hds have got the update but mine. So I am wondering if anyone else with the 1.72 from has received the update and or if I will get it due to not using the original rom.
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If your phone is running a stock 1.72 rom then i'd say yes you'll get the OTA update, but since you've got S-OFF i'm not 100% sure.
I'd suggest you just use the Gingerbread RUU in the development section
I'm having the same problem. Vodafone Australia phone. But used gold card to put unbranded 1.32.405.6 on. I haven't been able to get the OTA update to apply, just says I'm already up to date.
Edit: I tried booting up the phone with the SD card I used as my gold card. Didn't work either.