Will the GB be sent out ota?
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Will the GB be sent out ota?
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Highly likely.
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Hi all
Do unlocked to any network phones receive OTA updates before branded ones?, and if that is the case if I unlocked my phone would I receive the OTA update earlier even if I am still running the orange UK android 2.2.
howjord said:
Hi all
Do unlocked to any network phones receive OTA updates before branded ones?, and if that is the case if I unlocked my phone would I receive the OTA update earlier even if I am still running the orange UK android 2.2.
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I doubt it, because carriers have to do their own testing of the firmware then distribute it, so even though htc will release it this week we might not get it during this week or the week after maybe.
No. You still have to wait for Orange to mess around with it. You'll be waiting at least another month after gb gets released.
Swyped...
Unbranded phones will most likely get updates before anyone else. If your phone is branded you will have to create a gold card then you can install the official HTC unbranded ruu, then get the OTA earlier.
howjord said:
Hi all
Do unlocked to any network phones receive OTA updates before branded ones?, and if that is the case if I unlocked my phone would I receive the OTA update earlier even if I am still running the orange UK android 2.2.
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To answer your question as noone else cared to read it, no unlocked phones won't get it earlier. The locking is completely separated from the rom itself.
But branded phones(the ones with apps and stuff from orange etc. on it) will have to wait for the carrier to add their branding and deploy it. So you can get it quicker by unbranding(installing a stock wwe htc rom), however you might get issues when trying to install the update.
thanks all for your replies. Thought about installing the stock htc rom with no orange branding but heard it can cause problems so will just have to wait.
Will I lose root, sim unlocked and s-off when the update comes through?
dunno how bout sim-lock
but you NEVER should apply an OTA on rooted rom
and yes you will lose root and s-off (if it works well, the ota)
just wait until it gets released, devs will root it and post here, and you just download stock rooted gingerbread and flash it.
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I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
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My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?
oh not bad!
Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
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just reflash an older radio
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Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .
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Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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What do these different radio versions mean?
By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy
I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help
First off, I've had WM phones for years and flashed them to bits but I'm pretty nooby when it comes to Android, so bear with me.
Alrighty then, after all the hoo-ha with the last update I've held off debranding my Orange Desire for all this time - I got mine on Orange launch day so I've had to put up with the Orange crap for a long while. Basically all I want to do it debrand and get FroYo, I'm not interested in rooting yet but I can't really afford to unlock it (student loan is getting very low this summer). I understand I need a Goldcard etc and I'm happy enough with the procedure.
My question, when the 2.2 RUU appears, will it lock my Desire if I flash it with the Goldcard?
edit - Another question, if I flash to an old debranded ROM, will I have to run through the problematic updates before I'm offered the 2.2 OTA update, hence locking my phone?
Use your goldcard for debranding and updating and you should be fine. Personally I would just buy an unlock code and debrand to an older ROM and then do any OTA updates.
Mine is Orange debranded and updated just fine when using the goldcard.
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Use your goldcard for debranding and updating and you should be fine. Personally I would just buy an unlock code and debrand to an older ROM and then do any OTA updates.
Mine is Orange debranded and updated just fine when using the goldcard.
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Thanks for the reply, I'll wait for the RUU and see how it goes I guess.
Anyone know how long it usually takes for the RUU to appear after the OTA is put out?
I've had a decent search around the other threads, and I can't find an answer for my question.
I have what I believe to be, an unbranded Desire, supplied directly from Vodaphone 1 week after launch. It boots up with the HTC logos and makes no reference to Vodaphone. The phone was never locked to Vodafone as I am able to use a Three sim to make calls and browse the web after I updated the APN settings.
I did receive an OTA update from Vodafone, a couple of weeks after I bought it, and I'm now wondering if Vodafone have "branded" it behind my back.
I would rather not go through the process of de-branding if it is already de-branded!
For the sake of my sanity, please help.
Check if you have a scene called 'Vodafone' if you do it is branded, like mine
I bought my desire in switzerland, it's unbranded and I receive the ota updade few minutes ago, its working very well. Be patient.. But depending from where your desire came, you will need to wait more.. This upgrade only apply for european country, not chinese or other places where desire is available.
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Check if you have a scene called 'Vodafone' if you do it is branded, like mine
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Bugger!
I've got a Vodafone scene!
Gold card here I come...
Thanks for the clarification.
Just found the same damn thing.
I have no chance to make a gold card though, I have only one microSD..the one in the ****ing phone.
Hello,
Can I not root using the 1 click unrevoked method and then just flash the official ROM?
I don't care about rooting though. I would rather to use the official ROM.
pablo_max said:
Hello,
Can I not root using the 1 click unrevoked method and then just flash the official ROM?
I don't care about rooting though. I would rather to use the official ROM.
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If you have the Official 2.1 ROM, then you can use unrevoked method for rooting.
Otherwise, if you are updated to 2.2 through OTA, then you can't.
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Just found the same damn thing.
I have no chance to make a gold card though, I have only one microSD..the one in the ****ing phone.
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So whats the problem? That works. Your mc wont stop working.
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I downloaded the official 2.2 that was posted here. Can I just use that?
Hi, i have D-Z bought in carphonewarehouse store and i am using it on orange mobile network. The new gingerbread OTA was released some time ago, but i still have no system update to it, even if i check it manualy. In past the 2.2.1 update was succesful via OTA without any problems or delays
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Hi, i have D-Z bought in carphonewarehouse store and i am using it on orange mobile network. The new gingerbread OTA was released some time ago, but i still have no system update to it, even if i check it manualy. In past the 2.2.1 update was succesful via OTA without any problems or delays
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It wasn't released to every country ya know...
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UhlikUK said:
Hi, i have D-Z bought in carphonewarehouse store and i am using it on orange mobile network. The new gingerbread OTA was released some time ago, but i still have no system update to it, even if i check it manualy. In past the 2.2.1 update was succesful via OTA without any problems or delays
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If its been branded by Orange then Orange will have their own testing schedule and will release it when their ready. I got bored so rooted and s-off'd my phone then installed the pre-rooted leak from Hawst.
Technically you could just download Football's RUU and install it. That will leave you wih the same as if you got the OTA. Have a look through the Dev sub-forum.
Craig
Phone is not branded to any operator (and i can use it for any) thx for informations
You wont even need root of s-off for the RUU as its the official release. You can find it here, at the bottom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179389
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision
Craig
sorted out, just received the update
Hi all, I've now a Vodafone branded phone, as for now I only have to wait for official updates (I'm no rooted and locked bootloader), I was thinking of what will happen when no more official updates are released, will I be able to install custom ROMS with the latest Android distribution or will I be stuck on the last one I will have officially received?
Because as for now I can't update to custom jb ROMS due to the incompatible hboot, bus as far as htc doesn't release more official updates shouldn't the hboot be the same for everyone?
I know this couldn't be a clear explanation, sorry for that, but I need to know if I've to sell my phone to get an unbranded one or not... I'd like to be able to use this phone as long as I don't break it, so this is so important to me,
Thanks
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you just have to wait longer, you will get your JB update. Every hox will get it. Unbranded have it earlier because the provider don't need to add bloatware !
If HTC pushes out a update you will also get it, doesn't matter if you have vodaphone or any other provider.
This also counts for future updates.
Yes, i know that, my thoughts were for when htc will not release updates anymore, what will happen then? Will we be able to flash custom ROMS based in aosp builds or not because of the hboot?
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MarcelHofs said:
you just have to wait longer, you will get your JB update. Every hox will get it. Unbranded have it earlier because the provider don't need to add bloatware !
If HTC pushes out a update you will also get it, doesn't matter if you have vodaphone or any other provider.
This also counts for future updates.
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I think he wanted to know if he will get his JB update, will he be able to flash custom roms which need a newer hboot.
So as far as i know, if you get your OTA update, your hboot will also be updated to the new hboot and then you will be able to use all the custom roms which need the new hboot.
But nobody knows what will be if newer versions of Android will come out, maybe they will need again a newer hboot version. And as long as you have a carrier branded device you will always need to wait for your carrier update.
If the Dev's could achieve S-Off there wouldn't be a problem, but so far nobody has made it.
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AOSP works better with older hboot (under 1.23), for some reason the gps and some things are broken on newer hboot (over 1.23) and they often need a seperate kernel (boot.img) to work.
But there are also a lot of custom roms for the newer hboot in the other developement section.
However i don't know if dev's will decide to work only with the never hboot in the future.
Thanks, then as I thought there is no clue of what will happen for branded phones, so going for an unbranded seems the best choice, wouldn't it?
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Thanks, then as I thought there is no clue of what will happen for branded phones, so going for an unbranded seems the best choice, wouldn't it?
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It's always the best choice.
But much likely if HTC releases a update, the carriers will / should follow, even though they will need more time.
Also if HTC won't release any more updates we will all be stuck on the latest version and maybe devs won't be capable of developing the newest android version for our device.
And even unbranded devices need the right CID for the right update unless we have achieved S-Off.
However i think there will always be enough experimental and also stable versions for any hboot version - thx to all the devs.
I didn't consider that even unbranded phones would need the right CID and hboot, so we're all in the same boat, branded and unbranded... Won't definitely buy another phone with locked bootloader, unless the s-off has been already achieved..
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Because of the above I will NEVER go to a carrier store for a phone again!!
I think in a way we got unlucky this time round, since the hboot is not forward compatible with the sense ROM. Let's hope it's a one off rather than a new sinister plan, and future updates do not require an updated hboot.
Let's hope that, seriously.
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The very ....very best thing that could happen now is S-OFF so we can downgrade the hboot at any time so we can flash newer and older hboots in an instant !
But this is still very unlikely ! :thumbdown: