Hi guys
First, thanks for a great forum, with great users, i really appreciate to read and learn here..
And i now think it's about time to move on and root my DHD and flash a custom rom..
BUT..
I am confused about up/downgrading my stock rom, and what the meaning of flashing the radio is, and why one radio is better than another, for every custom rom..
Android version
2.3.3
Basebandversion
12.54.60.25U_26.09.11_M2
Version
2.50.405.2 CL 87995
With that info, could any of you guys give me some hints, on what to do as a start?
I have searched for some answers, but it does only make me more confuse about it, when i have this version of stock rom.
Thank you for your time
Hi, welcome to XDA Dev forum.
To cut this short, tu fully unlock the phone, one must must root, do ENG S-OFF and radio S-OFF.
BUT, its only applicable to stock rom build 2.37 and later version (2.42 and newer has not be able to root yet).
However, you can still proceed if you're already done ENG S-OFF (check in bootloader - press volume down+power button when turning on the phone, look for ENG S-ON or SHIP S-OFF status).
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
Thank you
I have not done ENG S-OFF, so that sucks to be me right now.
Hope that someone soon makes it possible
Thank you for your answer
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This will all probably sound extremely nooby but just want to make sure I dont do anything to break my new DHD!
I've previously had experience rooting and flashing ROMS on a Htc Hero and that seemed much simpler.
Basically what I want to know is, if I have a branded Orange DHD do i need to use a goldcard in order to flash ROMS like Android Revolution or is a gold card just if I want to a flash a HTC stock ROM? I've tried reading up on this but I'm still unsure...
And also, does rooting and flashing Roms and Radios affect the sim card at all or does it just affect the device itself?
Your similar card is fine no matter what you do, unless you try and bend it!
The process of flashing ROMs is exactly the same as the HTC Hero, my old phone, however some processes need to be run before you can flash.
If you have a branded Orange handset and firmware 1.72/1.84 you will need to downgrade to 1.32 before you can root and start these processes, ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF (Optional).
I will link an excellent guide that has all the info you need.
Here are the excellent guides
Downgrading --> [GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6 - Includes goldcard creation.
ENG S-OFF --> [TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
Radio S-OFF --> [TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root & S-OFF Guide)
Guides by jkoljo
Once you have done everything, simply install ROM Manager from the market, flash Recovery from within there, Download your chosen ROM, flash from Recovery.
One point to note,
If you intend to flash a 2.2 (Froyo) ROM use a 2.x.x.x Recovery
If you intend to flash a 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM use 3.x.x.x
thanks a lot, sorry to be a pain but the thing I'm really unclear about is if my DHD is Orange branded, but my firmware is 1.40.61.2 do i still need to downgrade to 1.32?
I don't know to be honest. Try running Visionary+ and see if you can root. If you can, then you don't need to downgrade.
Your firmware seems.to be rootable
Tapatalked with Tapatalk from my Desire HD using Tapatalk.
And I can confirm it, no need to downgrade
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good info
well - just got myself a DHD today - should be with me soon !!! Nice !!!,
Thanks for the little Q & A on this matter, really helpful, As of yet I dont know what is on the phone - but Ill study the guides and see how I go. Ive previously toyed with last 2 HTC's ( Orbit & Polaris/Orbit 2 ) - that was fairly easy - but was a while ago so Im a little out of touch with these matters.
LoL - ill probabbly be back soon firing questions at you guys for help and guidance
Any guides for the pure DHD noob ??, explanation of phrases ect , As im a total virgin to the Android world
Hi dayze0
dayze0 said:
well - just got myself a DHD today - should be with me soon !!! Nice !!!,
Thanks for the little Q & A on this matter, really helpful, As of yet I dont know what is on the phone - but Ill study the guides and see how I go. Ive previously toyed with last 2 HTC's ( Orbit & Polaris/Orbit 2 ) - that was fairly easy - but was a while ago so Im a little out of touch with these matters.
LoL - ill probabbly be back soon firing questions at you guys for help and guidance
Any guides for the pure DHD noob ??, explanation of phrases ect , As im a total virgin to the Android world
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You should find most of the link you should need here:- DHD Development Sticky Roll-Up Thread
Take Care
TheQuest
andyharney said:
Here are the excellent guides
Downgrading --> [GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6 - Includes goldcard creation.
ENG S-OFF --> [TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
Radio S-OFF --> [TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root & S-OFF Guide)
Guides by jkoljo
Once you have done everything, simply install ROM Manager from the market, flash Recovery from within there, Download your chosen ROM, flash from Recovery.
One point to note,
If you intend to flash a 2.2 (Froyo) ROM use a 2.x.x.x Recovery
If you intend to flash a 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM use 3.x.x.x
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thhx
Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks
i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait
I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50
Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long
Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
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Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0
Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !
Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..
I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome
Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.
Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong
giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread
Hi to great xda community. Been searching for posts and I have found answers to all but this.
I own a HTC Desire, BRAVO PVT4, S-ON, HBOOT-0.93.0001 with 5.11.05.27 radio running stock 2.2 Froyo
I have used SIM-Lock utility from this source on your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726
Also I have rooted my device after that using UNREVOKED3 from http://unrevoked.com/ and have done backup in recovery console.
All is working fine.
I want to S-OFF it and instal costum ROM (Cyanogen newest stable version).
My intentions are to use Revolutionary (http://revolutionary.io/) to S-OFF then wipe all and then flash cyanogen from theyr page.
So the quistions are, how do i do that without messing up my SIM lock? Are my intentions ok or is there a easyer/better way? And when do i need to do apps2sd stuff?
Why do you think you would mess up your SIM lock when using revolutionary?
Because the dev of SIM-Lock hasnt updated his post for quite a long time, there was no revolutionary for general public when he last updated. I am on diferent network for at least 6 months so i realy have to be sure it continues working.
I am pretty sure, if S-OFF "destroys" SIM-LOCK, we would have heard about it. For me, I cannot say why it should mess with SIM LOCK. I cannot guarantee it will not. So you are free to wait for some other answers.
Ok I am gona try it now, Hope for the best
EDIT: Revolutionary worked, now i go for the costum rom Thx Matdroid
First of all, please accept my apologies if this has been in some way answered before. I did a search as far back as early 2011 but could not find a satisfactory response hence my posting here.
I have a PVT1 Desire with HBOOT 0.80.0000, 5.14.05.17 Radio and S-ON. The phone is rooted with Amon-RA recovery and currently happily running JB. All is working well and I am conscious of the fact that should I decide to update the HBOOT and Radio to the latest version, I would have to start from scratch in terms of rooting etc. but as the phone is currently working just fine, I would appreciate people's opinion if there are any real benefits in upgrading.
Many thanks in advance.
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I really don't know or understand what you're waiting for. Why not s-off? It's so simple using revolutionary.
If you have a s-off, "rooting" is just flashing superuser from recovery. Not a complicated process at all.
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abaaaabbbb63 said:
I really don't know or understand what you're waiting for. Why not s-off? It's so simple using revolutionary.
If you have a s-off, "rooting" is just flashing superuser from recovery. Not a complicated process at all.
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except his hboot is 0.80
revolutionary needs 0.93.001 or 1.02.0001 to work
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Then his only option is to use unrevoked?
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
thanged losse
Just to clarify, I have no issues with upgrading and then rooting from scratch but, as my understanding is, that would involve going back to the official GB rom (to upgrade the HBOOT) and then doing all else, I was just wondering if it worth the hassle i.e. whether upgrading HBOOT and the Radio files brings any tangible benefits.
Many thanks for your responses.
fraxos said:
Just to clarify, I have no issues with upgrading and then rooting from scratch but, as my understanding is, that would involve going back to the official GB rom (to upgrade the HBOOT) and then doing all else, I was just wondering if it worth the hassle i.e. whether upgrading HBOOT and the Radio files brings any tangible benefits.
Many thanks for your responses.
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alot of roms these days do recommend the latest radio and the advantage of s-off is that u can change hboots for more space. if u click the all things root guide in my sig i think ul get pretty much all the info u need there.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Many thanks for all the suggestions.
I have now updated to the latest Radio but still not sure about HBOOT and S-OFF. Since I am using JB which requires stock HBOOT, there is little advantage to S-OFF for me? Also, is there a quick way to upgrade just the HBOOT without having to install the offiicial HTC GB rom?
i wouldnt recommend upgrading RADIO ! had so many issues with different roms the last year after upgrading to the latest radio. Now I am back to the latest official radio that was delivered in Europe (5.11.05.27) and having no issues since then with ICS or any other roms.
I have the impression that some issues revolve from the newer 5.17.xx.xx radios being incompatible with some roms.
fraxos said:
I have a PVT1 Desire with HBOOT 0.80.0000, 5.14.05.17 Radio and S-ON. The phone is rooted with Amon-RA recovery and currently happily running JB. All is working well and I am conscious of the fact that should I decide to update the HBOOT and Radio to the latest version, I would have to start from scratch in terms of rooting etc. but as the phone is currently working just fine, I would appreciate people's opinion if there are any real benefits in upgrading..
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Why just not to install latest RUU - it automatically flashes new HBOOT and Radio.
About efforts - it's just allows to use modern ROMs.
May be a little improves quality, stability and battery time.
PS I haven't any issues with 5.17.05.27 radio
Dude... He got his answer. Stop reviving dead threads.
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So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
ch3mn3y said:
So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
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Hey buddy,
Take a look through the first few posts here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266&page=16
It may seem like a lot but it will be worth it
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
ch3mn3y said:
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
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Correct, you have what we call fake s-off and only gives you a bit of help flashing your phone, to get true s-off the preferred method is to go back to stock and then downgrade and root with gfree
Relatively easy but a few steps needed first
If you have a chance to go to g2root on freenode iirc there is a good likelihood that guhl is there and will walk you through it all
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
demkantor said:
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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If You have time I would be grateful for advices how ro get from GB fake S-OFF to Recovery..
If not I will try tonight or tomorrow with this channel You wrote
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EDIT: It seems I have more time that I thought, so I'm checkin this g2root irc and waiting for someones answer
However if somebody could answer me one thing: With this fake S-OFF is it safe to downgrade using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Is it needed?
And what exactly S-OFF gives? Fastboot access like this Eng HBoot (at the beginning thought that it's HBoot from UK DZ/G2 )? Coz thats what I need : to flash CWM and than KK.
Downgraded, flashed Eng HBoot and CWM and KK is here. But I dont like it [emoji14] GB is coming...
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