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[Q] HBOOT update?

Hello everyone
Iam a bit nooby in android yet, but i've successfully done rooting + S-OFF already, flashed latest CM by using ROM manager+CMR, got latest RADIO and now...iam a bit frustrating
Should i update my HBOOT, which is 0.76.2000 (PC1010000)?
And how can i make it???
Thanks in advance.

There is absolutly no reason to update HBOOT. It won't give you any more features or better battery life. All it does is patch some exploits probably.
Sent from my G2 running Cyanogenmod 7.

Ok, thank u =)
But what is a proper way to upgrade ONLY hboot?

That guy was actually quite incorrect in his statement. The hboot you mentioned is the engineering hboot, it has additional functionality over the ship hboot that your phone came with, in particular, it allows you to to use FASTBOOT.

Ow, tnx.
So is it necessary to update or not?

WarcoLLapsE said:
Ow, tnx.
So is it necessary to update or not?
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Not strictly necessary (I do not have the ENG HBOOT) but many guides more or less assume that you have it.
I would expect that if you are just going to be flashing custom ROMs that you should not need it, but if you are getting into more advanced hacking it will probably be required.
I have not updated to the ENG HBOOT for two main reasons.
1. When the wiki says that installing it is "OPTIONAL AND UNNECESSARY" I take it at it's word.
2. If you make any mistakes at all in flashing your HBOOT you can brick your device fairly easily (I view it as a small but unnecessary risk)

Thank u all guys)
The topic can be closed i think.

[Q] [SOLVED] Final question before rooting my DZ

Hi,
I've got my DZ a couple of days ago. It's a secondhand DZ. Previously i've used HTC Touch, Touch Dual, TP2, so this is my first Android experience. I did lots of ROM playing on previous winmo phones, but after reading for these couple of days of Android modding, i learn that flashing another Android ROM is not so simple as winmo ROM.
This is my DZ info:
Android version 2.2.1
Baseband version 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
Kernel version 2.6.32.21-g6e170e7
Build number 1.82.707.1 CL317545 release-keys
Software number 1.82.707.1
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.85.0009
MICROP - 0425
RADIO - 26.04.02.17_M2
eMMC - boot
Dec 13 2010
I've check with root checker and Titanium Backup, it says NO root access.
I've learned that with 1.82, i will have to downgrade first to 1.34.
In the steps for downgrading, i found that i will have to flash signed PC10IMG. But i also found in the sticky thread there's a warning, not to flash signed PC10IMG if i have S-OFF. So before i can downgrade, i have to get the S-ON.
I've read in a thread :
If for some reason (sending phone for warranty or repair, etc) you want to go back to S-ON:
- If you got S-OFF by flashing an Engineering hBoot, download the official HTC RUU for your phone version and flash the stock firmware back again. S-ON will be restored. This forum contains many threads with official RUUs.
- If you got S-OFF with gfree, it saved a backup copy to your SD card called "part7backup-xxxxxxxxxx.bin". It can be flashed back from a terminal emulator or from an ADB shell:
"dd if=/wherever/your/part7backup-xxxxxxx.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7
The problem is, i got a secondhand unit without microSD card. How can I get S-ON? I don't know how (what method) my DZ got S-OFF at the first place.
Any help is much appreciated.

prazzo said:
Hi,
I've got my DZ a couple of days ago. It's a secondhand DZ. Previously i've used HTC Touch, Touch Dual, TP2, so this is my first Android experience. I did lots of ROM playing on previous winmo phones, but after reading for these couple of days of Android modding, i learn that flashing another Android ROM is not so simple as winmo ROM.
This is my DZ info:
Android version 2.2.1
Baseband version 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
Kernel version 2.6.32.21-g6e170e7
Build number 1.82.707.1 CL317545 release-keys
Software number 1.82.707.1
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.85.0009
MICROP - 0425
RADIO - 26.04.02.17_M2
eMMC - boot
Dec 13 2010
I've check with root checker and Titanium Backup, it says NO root access.
I've learned that with 1.82, i will have to downgrade first to 1.34.
In the steps for downgrading, i found that i will have to flash signed PC10IMG. But i also found in the sticky thread there's a warning, not to flash signed PC10IMG if i have S-OFF. So before i can downgrade, i have to get the S-ON.
I've read in a thread :
If for some reason (sending phone for warranty or repair, etc) you want to go back to S-ON:
- If you got S-OFF by flashing an Engineering hBoot, download the official HTC RUU for your phone version and flash the stock firmware back again. S-ON will be restored. This forum contains many threads with official RUUs.
- If you got S-OFF with gfree, it saved a backup copy to your SD card called "part7backup-xxxxxxxxxx.bin". It can be flashed back from a terminal emulator or from an ADB shell:
"dd if=/wherever/your/part7backup-xxxxxxx.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7
The problem is, i got a secondhand unit without microSD card. How can I get S-ON? I don't know how (what method) my DZ got S-OFF at the first place.
Any help is much appreciated.
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You are already S-OFF? I'd find it strange that you'd be S-OFF and not be rooted.

install rom manager and check if there has been a recovery already flashed. Might answer your question
Why do you want s-on? S-off is a good thing
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA Premium App

You can check if you got S-OFF or S-ON
by entering bootloader
Power off your phone, then, hold the volume down key and the power key.
You might need to disable fastboot

Spastic909 said:
install rom manager and check if there has been a recovery already flashed. Might answer your question
Why do you want s-on? S-off is a good thing
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA Premium App
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I've already installed Rom manager and there's no clockwork recvery installed.
I want to flash custom rom. I need a root to do that. To get a root, i need to downgrade. To downgrade, i need to flash signed pc10img. And there's a warning here that said DONT flash pc10img with S-OFF. That's the problem.

Shinfang said:
You can check if you got S-OFF or S-ON
by entering bootloader
Power off your phone, then, hold the volume down key and the power key.
You might need to disable fastboot
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I already did that. Bootloader says VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF. So that means i definitely have S-OFF.

I've learned some more from the post here and there. I think i figured out what happen with my DZ. I think the previous owner rooted and S-OFF the phone in the old firmware 1.34 then got an OTA update to 1.84. That update destroyed the root but somehow still S-OFF.
If I follow the direction in this thread, i assume that i can downgrade and root again. I will not need a goldcard to downgrade because currently i have S-OFF.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
Am i right?

prazzo said:
I've learned some more from the post here and there. I think i figured out what happen with my DZ. I think the previous owner rooted and S-OFF the phone in the old firmware 1.34 then got an OTA update to 1.84. That update destroyed the root but somehow still S-OFF.
If I follow the direction in this thread, i assume that i can downgrade and root again. I will not need a goldcard to downgrade because currently i have S-OFF.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
Am i right?
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I am not sure whether it will work. But I am curious too.
I once upgrade via OTA and then I downgrade it following the instruction as per your link reference too. I rooted succesfully.
But, my DZ was S-ON.
Now you are in a different situation. You want to downgrade and root it but you already S-OFF.
Do you want to try it?
Cheers

silverwind said:
I am not sure whether it will work. But I am curious too.
I once upgrade via OTA and then I downgrade it following the instruction as per your link reference too. I rooted succesfully.
But, my DZ was S-ON.
Now you are in a different situation. You want to downgrade and root it but you already S-OFF.
Do you want to try it?
Cheers
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I guess i have to try it.. will report after trying. Thnks all for the help..

Your theory on the previous owner having used the over the air update after rooting seems right to me. I've read more than a few times it will still show S-OFF but not be true S-OFF. Because you can't get S-OFF without root (well surely not on the newer 1.82's)

I'm not familiar with the 1.82 issues (why normal root methods fail on 1.82) but I wonder if temp root works, if you have radio S-OFF and temp root works it might be as simple as:
1. Obtain Temp Root (even Visionary could work)
2. Flash CWM Recovery (I'd use the flash_image method and not ROM Manager)
3. Reboot into CWM recovery
4. ...
5. Profit (Install a new pre-rooted ROM)
Of course this all depends on if temp root works with 1.82 and if your S-OFF is really S-OFF but it seems like a quick & easy thing to try.

I did it guys. It went smooth. Still needs goldcard though due to unmatched CID.
I'm on 1.34, rooted and S-OFF. Next find out ROM that i like most. Any recommendation? it has to be cool and fast..
So i figured that the warning "do not flash signed PC10IMG if you have S-OFF" is before we have the misc_version method. With misc_version "main is older" problem will never occur, provided misc_version done correctly.
Thank you all guys for your help and time especially for those guides starter. You guys are the ones who make this forum SO GREAT!

prazzo said:
I did it guys. It went smooth. Still needs goldcard though due to unmatched CID.
I'm on 1.34, rooted and S-OFF. Next find out ROM that i like most. Any recommendation? it has to be cool and fast..
So i figured that the warning "do not flash signed PC10IMG if you have S-OFF" is before we have the misc_version method. With misc_version "main is older" problem will never occur, provided misc_version done correctly.
Thank you all guys for your help and time especially for those guides starter. You guys are the ones who make this forum SO GREAT!
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Congrats .
The first time I did after rooting was install ROM MANAGER premium version.
There a lot of rom to try with the easiest way..
Good luck

Install Engineering Hboot or not to root?

Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom

please need some quick advice before i root

evilcuber said:
Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
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Installing eng hboot is not needed if you want to root but it is a good idea to have because
it will let you use fastboot commands ,lets say for any reason your recovery fail,you will
have the option to recover your phone through fastboot ,also you will need it if you want
to try different radios. However, if you want to install eng hboot ,you must be very carefull
when doing so otherwise you could brick your phone. make sure you follow every step and make sure that you are installing the the right one .(g2 and desire z have specific hboots).

wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?

evilcuber said:
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
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since you live in canada i assume you have a desire z not a g2 so you do not have to change your hboot for unity ,i didnt say you are more likely to brick your phone if you install eng hboot ,i said it is a good idea to install eng hboot so if for any reason your recovery fails you will have
an option to use fastboot and fix your phone, and then i said be very carefull when installing hboot and make sure you install the right hboot because g2 and desire z partition sizes are different so make sure if you have a desire z you are installing the one for desire z not the one that is for the g2. and make sure you type in the commands exactly like it said in the wiki .
(also seems like the wiki has changed since i was doing this, because i remember installing eng hboot was marked
as optional in the wiki before but now everything is different so you might actually need the eng boot now, i am not %100 sure i would wait for someone else to confirm what i said.)

Thanks for your help, i successfully rooted my htc desire z

@evilcuber May I use your thread to ask an additional question regarding hboot ?
I rooted my French DZ some times ago, I followed a tutorial from cyanogenmod wiki, most probably this one (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting) but I do not remember flashing an engineering hboot.
As I would like to install Unity, I have to check my phone runs the right hboot. Here is the information I have :
Thanks for your help !​

I think that as long as you have a DZ and not a G2, your hboot should be fine

[Q] Unroot procedure and RUU that can be rooted again

Hi,
I have HTC Desire GSM, rooted, s-off. Because of some issues with the proximity sensor i want to unroot the phone and send it back to HTC for maintenance. Before continue i must say that i have tried to clean the sensor, tried to remove the screen protector but the problem remains
However, i downloaded the hboot downgrade from alpharev site and updated the phone. Now the hboot version is still 6.93.9999 - will it be replaced when i flash the RUU?
Before flash the RUU i want to be sure that i can root the phone again once i get it back from HTC. I used the unrevoked to root my phone but as i see it's for hboot 0.93 and lower. What version of RUU should i use? I prefer to be froyo.
Thanks.

Yes, the bootloader will become S-ON once you use the RUU.
The best option is to use the corresponding RUU to your network provider e.g. my device is branded Vodafone, therefore if I were to send back for warranty purposes I would use the latest Vodafone RUU.
All RUU's are available on www.shipped-roms.com
If you are unable to find the correct RUU for your phone, or are unsure of which one is right for you, simply use the 2.3.3 Gingebread RUU available from htcdev.com (there is also a link available on my guide from #Resources)
Lastly, you can root and S-OFF your phone as many times as you please (Being it is not rooted or S-OFF already)

Thanks for the reply. I have found tha RUU i need
I have read that GB RUU cannot be rooted and i should downgrade to 2.1. So i will use Froyo instead. Thanks a lot

vesheff said:
Thanks for the reply. I have found tha RUU i need
I have read that GB RUU cannot be rooted and i should downgrade to 2.1. So i will use Froyo instead. Thanks a lot
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When you get the phone back you're probably more than likely to get it back with 2.2 anyway, also you have read wrong, in addition to the fact that unrevoked is now pretty much obsolete and it is much easier to S-OFF and flash recovery rather than root the stock system.

There are so many threads and it's easy to get confused
I suppose you are talking about 4ext recovery?
What's the way to s-off the phone? Is it still whit alpharev?
I will search a little bit more thank you very much

vesheff said:
There are so many threads and it's easy to get confused
I suppose you are talking about 4ext recovery?
What's the way to s-off the phone? Is it still whit alpharev?
I will search a little bit more thank you very much
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Wow you really need to do a lot of reading.. you can flash any recovery you want, whatever suits your needs...
Use revolutionary instead, it's a lot quicker and easier.

How to Radio S-off?

Hi.. I have a Rooted DHD but I wanna do Radio S-off as well. Is there any guide for this? I got this phone with a Custom Rom so I'm not sure which andriod it was shipped with.

Hi mate,
I believe this thread will answer your questions, I'm in the same boat thinking it may solve my random bootlooping issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
I'm a little out of touch with the Desire HD (previously had a Desire with custom ROM, Radio S-Off, etc. etc. that ran perfect).
Let me know how you go, interested to give it a shot myself.

Interested too, as currently I am unable to successfully boot up the latest 4.2.x ROMs!

me.noob said:
Hi.. I have a Rooted DHD but I wanna do Radio S-off as well. Is there any guide for this? I got this phone with a Custom Rom so I'm not sure which andriod it was shipped with.
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Use the guide and the thread in my signature. You will find all the information you need there. Just for precaution treat your phone as shipped with GB. It is not important with what OS it was shipped with, but what is running right now.

glevitan said:
Use the guide and the thread in my signature. You will find all the information you need there. Just for precaution treat your phone as shipped with GB. It is not important with what OS it was shipped with, but what is running right now.
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I know how to flash a new radio, I just wanna S-off my radio 1st b4 flashing a new 1. So basicially I'm looking for a guide to tell me how to S-off my current Radio.

As per my post mate - that thread links to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
Which then links to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
The latter, being a one click radio s-off solution. Let me know if it works - pretty keen to attempt myself.

shifted-is said:
As per my post mate - that thread links to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
Which then links to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
The latter, being a one click radio s-off solution. Let me know if it works - pretty keen to attempt myself.
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That is dangerous if your device is running or was shipped with GB version of android. Flashing the ENG S-OFF or a froyo Hboot will miserably mess your bootloader. If you are already S-OFF you can flash the modified ENG S-OFF included in the Hack Kit.

Use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit:
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=74
Be careful as somebody suggested because you can end up with a brick. Read the manual included.

wachutunai said:
Use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit:
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=74
Be careful as somebody suggested because you can end up with a brick. Read the manual included.
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Not the Hack Kit, but the options. If he tries to hack kit device again he will get stuck. By flashing ENG S-OFF he will not brick his device, but will have a big headache. To brick the device he needs to flash a wrong partition...

glevitan said:
Not the Hack Kit, but the options. If he tries to hack kit device again he will get stuck. By flashing ENG S-OFF he will not brick his device, but will have a big headache. To brick the device he needs to flash a wrong partition...
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You are right, the last time I used the AAHK did not include an option to flash an ENG S-OFF hboot :angel:

wachutunai said:
You are right, the last time I used the AAHK did not include an option to flash an ENG S-OFF hboot :angel:
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That is because the tradicional ENG S-OFF had issues (severily messed) with the bootloader and put it in superslow motion. After a while the Hack Kit included a modified ENG S-OFF compatible with GB shipped devices...saves a lot of headaches

hmm
Thanks 4 ur replies guys. My DHD is Rooted with ENG S-OFF, I just wanted to flash a newer Radio to see if it gives better signal performance but I guess its too risky. I'd better not mess with this Radio S-OFF thingy .. Dont wanna endup with a brick ..

@glevitan - so with the Ace Hack Kit we can attain ENG S-Off and Radio S-Off?
How do we know if our device originally came with Gingerbread or Froyo?
Pretty keen to flash radio (constant drop outs) and give it a go, don't want to do the wrong thing though!
Edit: Ace Hack Kit - is it 1 step Radio S-Off, Eng S-Off etc.?
And can still flash through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324 regardless of Radio S-Off?

shifted-is said:
@glevitan - so with the Ace Hack Kit we can attain ENG S-Off and Radio S-Off?
How do we know if our device originally came with Gingerbread or Froyo?
Pretty keen to flash radio (constant drop outs) and give it a go, don't want to do the wrong thing though!
Edit: Ace Hack Kit - is it 1 step Radio S-Off, Eng S-Off etc.?
And can still flash through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324 regardless of Radio S-Off?
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Yes, the Hack Kit lastest version will flash ENG S-OFF, but it is not the tradicional ENG but a modified one to work with all devices regardless the Android version they were shipped with.
I guess that currently doesn´t matter what version was your device shipped with but the one it is running at the moment. Mostly all devices have been updated and so have the bootloaders, so the risk is for all the people who actually updated. The best is to treat your device as shipped with GB always just to avoid a headache.
You can always flash a radio in the PD98IMG.zip way, that it is the safest. Always make sure that you check the md5sum of the file and that the radio is for your device, as stated in that thread. You are S-OFF if you used the Hack Kit some time ago, but ENG S-OFF if you did it in the last year...If you are just S-OFF (check what it says in the hboot top left corner), you can flash the ENG S-OFF from the HAck Kit options.
I always flash radios in the PD98IMG way, safest thou not faster.
:good:

Maybe I'm missing a step there?
It says "parsing", and the radio doesn't update :-\
Then the phone boots in safe mode...
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shifted-is said:
Maybe I'm missing a step there?
It says "parsing", and the radio doesn't update :-\
Then the phone boots in safe mode...
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2
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If the file is parsed and you are not prompted to update, then your sdcard might be corrupted (have you tried using a different one?) or the file is not named PD98IMG.zip correctly.

Ill try a different SD card,
The name of the file is IMG not 1MG yes? I named the file correctly, inside the ZIP archive is just the radio.img file.
Not sure why it did that, before it says parsing it comes with PD98DIAX or something and "no file found" then it lists PD98IMG and parsing.
Unfortunately I havent had much luck with this phone
I remember the Desire being a similar radio update process.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

shifted-is said:
Ill try a different SD card,
The name of the file is IMG not 1MG yes? I named the file correctly, inside the ZIP archive is just the radio.img file.
Not sure why it did that, before it says parsing it comes with PD98DIAX or something and "no file found" then it lists PD98IMG and parsing.
Unfortunately I havent had much luck with this phone
I remember the Desire being a similar radio update process.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2
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inside the zip you should have the img file and a .txt file, otherwise it won't flash
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

Ah I see, well the txt file is missing - ill have to check the radio thread again to see what the go is as I downloaded the radio zip archives from there.
Thanks!
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