[Q] [SOLVED] Final question before rooting my DZ - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I've got my DZ a couple of days ago. It's a secondhand DZ. Previously i've used HTC Touch, Touch Dual, TP2, so this is my first Android experience. I did lots of ROM playing on previous winmo phones, but after reading for these couple of days of Android modding, i learn that flashing another Android ROM is not so simple as winmo ROM.
This is my DZ info:
Android version 2.2.1
Baseband version 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
Kernel version 2.6.32.21-g6e170e7
Build number 1.82.707.1 CL317545 release-keys
Software number 1.82.707.1
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.85.0009
MICROP - 0425
RADIO - 26.04.02.17_M2
eMMC - boot
Dec 13 2010
I've check with root checker and Titanium Backup, it says NO root access.
I've learned that with 1.82, i will have to downgrade first to 1.34.
In the steps for downgrading, i found that i will have to flash signed PC10IMG. But i also found in the sticky thread there's a warning, not to flash signed PC10IMG if i have S-OFF. So before i can downgrade, i have to get the S-ON.
I've read in a thread :
If for some reason (sending phone for warranty or repair, etc) you want to go back to S-ON:
- If you got S-OFF by flashing an Engineering hBoot, download the official HTC RUU for your phone version and flash the stock firmware back again. S-ON will be restored. This forum contains many threads with official RUUs.
- If you got S-OFF with gfree, it saved a backup copy to your SD card called "part7backup-xxxxxxxxxx.bin". It can be flashed back from a terminal emulator or from an ADB shell:
"dd if=/wherever/your/part7backup-xxxxxxx.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7
The problem is, i got a secondhand unit without microSD card. How can I get S-ON? I don't know how (what method) my DZ got S-OFF at the first place.
Any help is much appreciated.

prazzo said:
Hi,
I've got my DZ a couple of days ago. It's a secondhand DZ. Previously i've used HTC Touch, Touch Dual, TP2, so this is my first Android experience. I did lots of ROM playing on previous winmo phones, but after reading for these couple of days of Android modding, i learn that flashing another Android ROM is not so simple as winmo ROM.
This is my DZ info:
Android version 2.2.1
Baseband version 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
Kernel version 2.6.32.21-g6e170e7
Build number 1.82.707.1 CL317545 release-keys
Software number 1.82.707.1
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.85.0009
MICROP - 0425
RADIO - 26.04.02.17_M2
eMMC - boot
Dec 13 2010
I've check with root checker and Titanium Backup, it says NO root access.
I've learned that with 1.82, i will have to downgrade first to 1.34.
In the steps for downgrading, i found that i will have to flash signed PC10IMG. But i also found in the sticky thread there's a warning, not to flash signed PC10IMG if i have S-OFF. So before i can downgrade, i have to get the S-ON.
I've read in a thread :
If for some reason (sending phone for warranty or repair, etc) you want to go back to S-ON:
- If you got S-OFF by flashing an Engineering hBoot, download the official HTC RUU for your phone version and flash the stock firmware back again. S-ON will be restored. This forum contains many threads with official RUUs.
- If you got S-OFF with gfree, it saved a backup copy to your SD card called "part7backup-xxxxxxxxxx.bin". It can be flashed back from a terminal emulator or from an ADB shell:
"dd if=/wherever/your/part7backup-xxxxxxx.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7
The problem is, i got a secondhand unit without microSD card. How can I get S-ON? I don't know how (what method) my DZ got S-OFF at the first place.
Any help is much appreciated.
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You are already S-OFF? I'd find it strange that you'd be S-OFF and not be rooted.

install rom manager and check if there has been a recovery already flashed. Might answer your question
Why do you want s-on? S-off is a good thing
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA Premium App

You can check if you got S-OFF or S-ON
by entering bootloader
Power off your phone, then, hold the volume down key and the power key.
You might need to disable fastboot

Spastic909 said:
install rom manager and check if there has been a recovery already flashed. Might answer your question
Why do you want s-on? S-off is a good thing
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA Premium App
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I've already installed Rom manager and there's no clockwork recvery installed.
I want to flash custom rom. I need a root to do that. To get a root, i need to downgrade. To downgrade, i need to flash signed pc10img. And there's a warning here that said DONT flash pc10img with S-OFF. That's the problem.

Shinfang said:
You can check if you got S-OFF or S-ON
by entering bootloader
Power off your phone, then, hold the volume down key and the power key.
You might need to disable fastboot
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I already did that. Bootloader says VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF. So that means i definitely have S-OFF.

I've learned some more from the post here and there. I think i figured out what happen with my DZ. I think the previous owner rooted and S-OFF the phone in the old firmware 1.34 then got an OTA update to 1.84. That update destroyed the root but somehow still S-OFF.
If I follow the direction in this thread, i assume that i can downgrade and root again. I will not need a goldcard to downgrade because currently i have S-OFF.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
Am i right?

prazzo said:
I've learned some more from the post here and there. I think i figured out what happen with my DZ. I think the previous owner rooted and S-OFF the phone in the old firmware 1.34 then got an OTA update to 1.84. That update destroyed the root but somehow still S-OFF.
If I follow the direction in this thread, i assume that i can downgrade and root again. I will not need a goldcard to downgrade because currently i have S-OFF.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
Am i right?
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I am not sure whether it will work. But I am curious too.
I once upgrade via OTA and then I downgrade it following the instruction as per your link reference too. I rooted succesfully.
But, my DZ was S-ON.
Now you are in a different situation. You want to downgrade and root it but you already S-OFF.
Do you want to try it?
Cheers

silverwind said:
I am not sure whether it will work. But I am curious too.
I once upgrade via OTA and then I downgrade it following the instruction as per your link reference too. I rooted succesfully.
But, my DZ was S-ON.
Now you are in a different situation. You want to downgrade and root it but you already S-OFF.
Do you want to try it?
Cheers
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I guess i have to try it.. will report after trying. Thnks all for the help..

Your theory on the previous owner having used the over the air update after rooting seems right to me. I've read more than a few times it will still show S-OFF but not be true S-OFF. Because you can't get S-OFF without root (well surely not on the newer 1.82's)

I'm not familiar with the 1.82 issues (why normal root methods fail on 1.82) but I wonder if temp root works, if you have radio S-OFF and temp root works it might be as simple as:
1. Obtain Temp Root (even Visionary could work)
2. Flash CWM Recovery (I'd use the flash_image method and not ROM Manager)
3. Reboot into CWM recovery
4. ...
5. Profit (Install a new pre-rooted ROM)
Of course this all depends on if temp root works with 1.82 and if your S-OFF is really S-OFF but it seems like a quick & easy thing to try.

I did it guys. It went smooth. Still needs goldcard though due to unmatched CID.
I'm on 1.34, rooted and S-OFF. Next find out ROM that i like most. Any recommendation? it has to be cool and fast..
So i figured that the warning "do not flash signed PC10IMG if you have S-OFF" is before we have the misc_version method. With misc_version "main is older" problem will never occur, provided misc_version done correctly.
Thank you all guys for your help and time especially for those guides starter. You guys are the ones who make this forum SO GREAT!

prazzo said:
I did it guys. It went smooth. Still needs goldcard though due to unmatched CID.
I'm on 1.34, rooted and S-OFF. Next find out ROM that i like most. Any recommendation? it has to be cool and fast..
So i figured that the warning "do not flash signed PC10IMG if you have S-OFF" is before we have the misc_version method. With misc_version "main is older" problem will never occur, provided misc_version done correctly.
Thank you all guys for your help and time especially for those guides starter. You guys are the ones who make this forum SO GREAT!
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Congrats .
The first time I did after rooting was install ROM MANAGER premium version.
There a lot of rom to try with the easiest way..
Good luck

Related

[Q] Can't seem to get rooted or recovery

So I first followed these instructions to use Unrevoked to root my girlfriend's new phone, as this was how I rooted my phone:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-root-the-htc-evo-4g-unrevoked-method/
Unrevoked said it was triumphant, but when I rebooted into my bootloader, and selected fastboot -> recovery I just got a black screen with a red triangle. Apparently, there's no nandroid loaded on my phone.
So I proceeded to follow Toast's 2 part guide here:
Part 1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Part 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835
Apprehensive about not being able to perform a nandroid backup, I proceeded anyways, but when I tried to create /data/flash_image I received an error: permission denied. So I'm positive I don't have root either.
So I went to this tutorial believing that I probably had a newer version (even though my notification bar is telling me I need to download the mandatory update) and followed these directions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
I repeated my previous steps, but was still no closer. Finally, I went to these directions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
but when I tried to update using the pc36img file, after it finished checking the file it said "Main version is older! Update fail! Do you want to reboot device?"
So I'm pretty much stuck. What can/should I do?
e:
Sprint HTC Evo 4G
Supersonic EVT3 Ship S-On
HBOOT-2.02.0000
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.09.01
Oct 14 2010, 19:14:47
Well, you need to figure out what version the phone is in the bootloader as in what hboot version.. And also you need to see what hardware version. You are trying to use methods that WILL NOT work on a new Evo.
Yellowcard8992 said:
Well, you need to figure out what version the phone is in the bootloader as in what hboot version. And also you need to see what hardware version. You are trying to use methods that WILL NOT work on a new Evo.
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Pretty much what this guy said.
You're going to need to use the new method for the 2.02 HBOOT since S-ON is present. If S-OFF was present you'd obviously be ready to go to flash a custom recovery and flash your ROM of choice.
Here's a guide to get your S-OFF with 2.02, follow it to the "T": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
Once you've got S-OFF and a custom recovery loaded, you'll just have to flash a ROM. Personally, I'd recommend Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4. It's the fastest ROM I've used and looks/works the best, imo.
Yellowcard8992 said:
Well, you need to figure out what version the phone is in the bootloader as in what hboot version.. And also you need to see what hardware version. You are trying to use methods that WILL NOT work on a new Evo.
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cosine83 said:
Pretty much what this guy said.
You're going to need to use the new method for the 2.02 HBOOT since S-ON is present. If S-OFF was present you'd obviously be ready to go to flash a custom recovery and flash your ROM of choice.
Here's a guide to get your S-OFF with 2.02, follow it to the "T": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
Once you've got S-OFF and a custom recovery loaded, you'll just have to flash a ROM. Personally, I'd recommend Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4. It's the fastest ROM I've used and looks/works the best, imo.
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Like all any other nerd in this forum on a thought about "How do I root this phone?" - Check the fkn specs of the phone to root with the instructions that has the details of your phone ONLY...gosh jeez peeoople where did we go wrong here?
Bad luck you wrote the wrong root method on a new females phone. >_<
Make sure you find out the Hboot version and the S-OFF has to be there for your phone to be flashed with a new rom / kernel for use.
What everyone said, but in case you don't know. To check your Hboot version boot to the bootloader (power on + vol down) to check your version.
cosine83 said:
Here's a guide to get your S-OFF with 2.02, follow it to the "T": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
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This is what I needed, thanks. Sorry, but it had been since the EVO launched since the last time I had to unlock one, sorry I wasn't completely versed in the nuances of hboot versions and the appearance of S-On. I'm glad someone was nice enough to simply post the correct guide.

[Q] Undo old permaroot & S-OFF from pre-gfree, or update to new S-OFF?

Hi guys,
I've been reading through the forums over the past two days but I have to admit it's hard to find what I am looking for now that the G2 forum and the DZ forum are merged, and the search isn't getting me anywhere for this one.
I have Bell Canada Desire Z permarooted and S-OFF'd, with CWMod. I did this before the newer gfree method and from what I can gather this can lead me to some kind of endless loop if I try to flash back to the a Bell RUU or other RUUs for that matter. It also worries me that I can't try new radios, etc.
I am getting very poor battery life compared to others so I want to have my phone replaced. I have an extended warranty from FutureShop so I probably don't even need to reset the phone to stock again (they swap on the spot) but I would like to anyway. It will also allow me to test the battery again with the stock ROM.
So, how do I go about flashing back to the Bell ROM and turning S-ON, and unrooting? Keeping in mind that I used the pre-gfree method. I believe it was Visionary R12 and gtab's guide.
Also as the title implies, I was wondering if it's possible to use the new (better) S-OFF even if I am already S-OFF'd the old way?
Any help is appreciated!
You can use gfree and achieve "real" S-OFF without having to unroot.
Just run it. Worst that'll happen is it fails if you happen to be on a kernel it doesn't like. If this happens, no harm is done, just a reboot.
Just run gfree from where you are, as the previous poster said.
That will put you in a much safer position, where you can get stuck in that boot loop that you can if you've only got the eng hboot.
Then you can flash whichever ROM you want. Then you can undo gfree if you want via its new options (see the Wiki).
Regarding your point about the merger, IMHO this issue isn't anything to do with the DZ specifically, and lots of users are posting about similar stuff with their G2s. It's all the same
Thanks guys,
I've done gfree (which is MUCH easier than the thread and wiki make it look - they need to simplify the text, it's overwhelming to look at given how simple the procedure is) and flashed the Bell RUU.
Now I am just about to root, and use gfree to undo the S-OFF I guess?
Will let you know how that turns out. Thanks again!
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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I'd keep that backup file as it is a dump of your original partition 7 before gfree mods it. You can dd i back and put everything back to how it was, if you ever need to. Do you need to keep it on the phone? No.. store it somewhere on your PC.
With the old "fake" S-OFF you would get stuck if you flashed a stock rom because it would overwrite the engineering HBOOT which was the only thing making your phone think it had S-OFF. With gfree method, you have real S-OFF, so this should be fine.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484 for details.
tl;dr You should be fine.
Hm,little bit confused!
The backup I need to get original original partition 7
but not to get S-On.
To get S-On I can use the new gfree method,it`s now
possible with this!
I did the old UBERROOT method with real S-Off!
P.S.I read here about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Not 100% sure I understand the question...but:
You don't need that backup file. If you delete it nothing bad will happen. Paranoid people (like me) would copy it to a safe place, but there's no real need.
You can flash whatever roms you like, including stock ones, as long as you have real, radio (gfree) S-OFF.
Hi guys, thanks for the help! I got it all settled, it was easy.
As I mentioned above, I used gfree to do a true S-OFF, which was easy.
Then I ran Bell's RUU and it worked without any issues. I assume the RUU install also flashes the HTC recovery back to the phone, I didn't check but it must..
A little summary for anyone who needs help in the future..
If you rooted/S-OFF'd using a method older than the current rage/gfree method (the one in the wiki) then you need to redo the S-OFF using gfree.
Steps:
Use gfree -f to S-OFF again
Run the stock RUU file on your pc (you need HTC sync installed for this)
Temproot (first part of the wiki guide) the stock ROM
Use gfree -s on to S-ON your phone
Reboot, and everything should appear like stock (aside from still being sim-unlocked).
Were u sucessful in returning your phone to htc after u did the above?
I didn't have to return it to htc, just to future shop, and it was fine.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

rooting 2.2

I know this question has been asked a lot of time, but im android noob and i didnt find on google anything simple to me..
Can I root my wildfire 2.2 ?
i was searching and they say i need to downgrade to v2.1 and i found something they say i can root v2.2 . But how to downgrade ?
I want to root him cuzz i want to install v2.3
and sorry for my bad english but i think you can understand...
if u r on android 2.2 with hboot 1.01 then u cannot root by any software method as far as now. A paid, expensive hardware solution (xtc clip) is available presently to root your phone. It not only roots ur phone, but also turns ur phone to S-OFF.
There is a Noobs Guide to downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1
But with that, even if u downgrade to 2.1, ur hboot will remain the same which still makes the phone unrootable. Now make ur choice, do u want unrootable eclair or unrootable froyo on your device. I hope u wont opt for eclair.
just search for a while lol. It has been answered many times here on xda.
sorry, but what is hboot and how can i know is my hboot 1.01 ? :S
najvecafaca said:
sorry, but what is hboot and how can i know is my hboot 1.01 ? :S
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HBOOT of wildfire is similar to the BIOS of a computer motherboard.
to know about ur phone hboot, just switch off the device and then by holding volume down key press the power button. there will be something displayed on the screen like,
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON or
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF.
it also says ur hboot version. u can root if ur hboot version is 0.80.x but i dont think u have that version.
it says
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
hboot-1.01.0001
then,it can not be rooted ?
najvecafaca said:
it says
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
hboot-1.01.0001
then,it can not be rooted ?
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yes lol thats all.
wait for some rooting process to arrive. everyone else is waiting for the past 4 months just to do that.
edit: u might have seen this thread relating to downgrade to 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847443
but that one is for cn froyo 2.2
bharatgaddameedi said:
edit: u might have seen this thread relating to downgrade to 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847443
but that one is for cn froyo 2.2
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with that tutorial i can downgrade my froyo to 2.1 and root my phone and then instal v2.3 ?
did you try that ? does it work ?
bharatgaddameedi said:
edit: u might have seen this thread relating to downgrade to 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847443
but that one is for cn froyo 2.2
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najvecafaca said:
with that tutorial i can downgrade my froyo to 2.1 and root my phone and then instal v2.3 ?
did you try that ? does it work ?
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That tutorial in the above link (A solution for downgrade cn froyo2.2) works for those who flashed the previously leaked chinese version of froyo. That chinese version of froyo doesn't have the hboot 1.01 (not to be sure but i think it has the hboot 0.83).
Many people are getting confused with that thread. One thing is pretty sure that, as far as now the hboot 1.01 with s-on cannot be rooted with any software methods [Or even hboot 1.01 cannot be downgraded to 0.80 untill today]
recently @dannyjmcguinness has successfully downgraded the hboot 1.01.0002 to hboot 1.01.0001 with s-on. But it gives nothing to users because both those hboots are unrootable. It might lead to some good news in the future.
link of that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037183
hi, I'm new register member here, but i read forum for a long time, and it was very useful. Now i have one question and decide to register and ask.
The thing is, i have wildwire, hboot is 0.80.007, i rooted with unrevoked and i instal RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.37.405.1_Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25_release_151892_signed.
Today i found this thread [ROM]Safe Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1 | No Hboot | No Radio | No Rooted & Rooted and instal rooted version. Now I'm 2.21 software version, i can move apps to sd card, and above all i think I'm still rooted.
My question is how this is possible if they said that froyo can't be rooted, and advice is not to upgrade to 2.2 version.
bokilava said:
The thing is, i have wildwire, hboot is 0.80.007, i rooted with unrevoked and i instal RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.37.405.1_Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25_release_151892_signed.
Today i found this thread [ROM]Safe Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1 | No Hboot | No Radio | No Rooted & Rooted and instal rooted version. Now I'm 2.21 software version, i can move apps to sd card, and above all i think I'm still rooted.
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u said that ur hboot is 0.80.0007 and rooted with unrevoked and then installed the 1st RUU. But installing that official RUU will make ur phone unrooted.
And that [ROM]Safe Buzz_Froyo is a rooted rom with both "no rooted" and "rooted" versions. U said that u installed the rooted version. ok fine.
Actually im on unrootable official froyo with hboot 1.01 and S-ON from the past 4 months. I havent tried any rooted official roms to say whether u r still rooted or not. I have the doubt whether rooted official roms can be installed only in the rooted wildfire or not. I expect they can be installed only in the rooted wildfire (as they are zip files, not exe files). If that is the case, then ur phone is still rooted. I would search and let u know if i got confirmed.
Alternatively, u can check it with "root only" apps like busybox. have a try
bokilava said:
My question is how this is possible if they said that froyo can't be rooted, and advice is not to upgrade to 2.2 version.
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Pretty sure it is possible. Because it is not like, "FROYO CANT BE ROOTED". The point is wildfire HBOOT 1.01 with S-ON can't be rooted. WILDFIRE ROOT depends on hboot and nand security flag. And rooting (in NAND locked devices) has nothing to do with eclair or froyo or gingerbread . And what everyone needs to know here is, "official update not only updates the os to froyo but also updates other things like hboot, radio, recovery (which solely makes the phone unrootable)".
That is the reason why they removed the hboot and radio in the above rooted rom u have mentioned.
thanks for reply, now the things come to a place
something like that was on my mind but i was unsure and confused.
Im installed zip file from sdcard, power on with volume down, etc... now i tried some terminal app where they said that if you type su, it will ask for super user permission and # sign need to appear instead of $ sign. It worked like a charm so i think that im still rooted
So ''don't update to froyo'' thing is only for those users who want OTA update, because of hboot updating, and unable to root new hboot?
Do you know what would be happened that i installed RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_160191_signed, Will my hboot become 1.xxx?
bokilava said:
thanks for reply, now the things come to a place
something like that was on my mind but i was unsure and confused.
Im installed zip file from sdcard, power on with volume down, etc... now i tried some terminal app where they said that if you type su, it will ask for super user permission and # sign need to appear instead of $ sign. It worked like a charm so i think that im still rooted
So ''don't update to froyo'' thing is only for those users who want OTA update, because of hboot updating, and unable to root new hboot?
Do you know what would be happened that i installed RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_160191_signed, Will my hboot become 1.xxx?
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U have got super user permissions. So, yes ur phone is rooted for sure. That is what root means actually (getting su permissions).
Yes, that "don't update to froyo" warning is only for users who wish to make the OTA update (without loosing root) from htc.
And again yes, by installing that RUU, ur HBOOT will become 1.01 because it had the latest Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10
--Official ruu / ota updates with Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10 will always have the HBOOT 1.01.000x
--And official ruu's with Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25 and Radio_13.45.55.24H_3.35.15.31 will have the HBOOT 0.80.000x

[Q] Unrevoked site Forbidden, can't get root for froyo

I have a new(used) HTC EVO 4g. I am trying to root it before I activate it. I was following directions (can't post link as a noob, but) 4-GUIDE-WIP-How-to-achieve-S-OFF-after-unlocking-2-18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark
and successfully unlocked the bootloader and removed the watermark.
However, when I get to the actual rooting step, it appears that either unrevoked is gone, or having some issue (or blocking me!) as I get 403 Forbidden errors. I have done an exhaustive search (including on this site, where I found someone had posted the file in dropbox but I get a 404 error on that one) and I cannot find either the unrevoked package or any other way to root my evo!
I would be very grateful for some help. Here are my specs:
android 2.2
baseband 2.15.00.11.19
software version 3.70.651.1
When I am in the bootloader menu, I see:
Supersonic evt2-3 Ship S-ON
HBOOT 2.10.0001
(I do not have the watermark saying "locked" or "unlocked")
Sorry to be a noob, but I have rooted several phones before but I just have no clue without the software...
As a side note- here are files I have found and managed to download (if there is a way to use them or if I haven't already used them to get this far): HTCDriver 3.0.0.0007, unrevoked-forever.zip, (I don't think this is the same as unrevoked3, which I need, but correct me if I am wrong) revolutionary-0.4pre4.zip, pc36IMG.zip (but not sure where i got this one from, so not sure what it is an image of.)
Get it activated first.. Then root it..
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hondafreak513 said:
Get it activated first.. Then root it..
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Is that really necessary? I could swear I read somewhere in the step-by-steps that it wasn't necessary to activate first. Since it will cost me $35 to activate it and the $35 to reactivate my existing phone if I can't get this rooted, I really have no desire to activate yet. Plus seeing as the problem I am having is in accessing the website I need to go to download the files for rooting, I can't see why activating would make any difference?
Rooted!
karenmolloy said:
I have a new(used) HTC EVO 4g. I am trying to root it before I activate it. I was following directions (can't post link as a noob, but) 4-GUIDE-WIP-How-to-achieve-S-OFF-after-unlocking-2-18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark
and successfully unlocked the bootloader and removed the watermark.
However, when I get to the actual rooting step, it appears that either unrevoked is gone, or having some issue (or blocking me!) as I get 403 Forbidden errors. I have done an exhaustive search (including on this site, where I found someone had posted the file in dropbox but I get a 404 error on that one) and I cannot find either the unrevoked package or any other way to root my evo!
I would be very grateful for some help. Here are my specs:
android 2.2
baseband 2.15.00.11.19
software version 3.70.651.1
When I am in the bootloader menu, I see:
Supersonic evt2-3 Ship S-ON
HBOOT 2.10.0001
(I do not have the watermark saying "locked" or "unlocked")
Sorry to be a noob, but I have rooted several phones before but I just have no clue without the software...
As a side note- here are files I have found and managed to download (if there is a way to use them or if I haven't already used them to get this far): HTCDriver 3.0.0.0007, unrevoked-forever.zip, (I don't think this is the same as unrevoked3, which I need, but correct me if I am wrong) revolutionary-0.4pre4.zip, pc36IMG.zip (but not sure where i got this one from, so not sure what it is an image of.)
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Okay, I actually fixed it myself--- Still have no idea what is going on with unrevoked site-- either it is my ISP or the site is bad. Either way, I finally found another way to root. Here on this site, I found a rooting method that was older, HBOOT 2.10 SOFF, and that worked fine for me!
(Wanted to post my solution so if anyone else found this thread while having the same problem, they would be able to fix it also.) Post was titled: [ROOT][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02/2.10 SOFF - Goodbye Stranger - Upd. 02.25.11
karenmolloy said:
Okay, I actually fixed it myself--- Still have no idea what is going on with unrevoked site-- either it is my ISP or the site is bad. Either way, I finally found another way to root. Here on this site, I found a rooting method that was older, HBOOT 2.10 SOFF, and that worked fine for me!
(Wanted to post my solution so if anyone else found this thread while having the same problem, they would be able to fix it also.) Post was titled: [ROOT][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02/2.10 SOFF - Goodbye Stranger - Upd. 02.25.11
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The Unrevoked site is down.
I must point out that "YOU WERE LUCKY", as that root method only works on the older Evos with the old hardware. It has been known to brick the newer Evos, as you could have easily done if you had the new hardware. Without Unrevoked, the safest method to root the phone would be to update it to one of the later builds (Gingerbread) and either use Revolutionary or the HTCdev site, depending on the build to unlock the bootloader. Then flash a custom recovery followed by a superuser.zip file.
Yikes!
shortydoggg said:
The Unrevoked site is down.
I must point out that "YOU WERE LUCKY", as that root method only works on the older Evos with the old hardware. It has been known to brick the newer Evos, as you could have easily done if you had the new hardware. Without Unrevoked, the safest method to root the phone would be to update it to one of the later builds (Gingerbread) and either use Revolutionary or the HTCdev site, depending on the build to unlock the bootloader. Then flash a custom recovery followed by a superuser.zip file.
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Yikes! Wow, glad I was a lucky one! Not surprised I have an older Evo, I got it off ebay.
I actually had started with Revolutionary, but my HBOOT was 2.18 (I think) and that only worked with 2.16 and 2.17. So then I went and downgraded to the 2.10, etc....
Just in case I need to know in the future, is the unrevoked site down temporarily or permanently?
karenmolloy said:
Yikes! Wow, glad I was a lucky one! Not surprised I have an older Evo, I got it off ebay.
I actually had started with Revolutionary, but my HBOOT was 2.18 (I think) and that only worked with 2.16 and 2.17. So then I went and downgraded to the 2.10, etc....
Just in case I need to know in the future, is the unrevoked site down temporarily or permanently?
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I don't know for sure, but since mostly everyone is now on Gingerbread builds and very few are still using Froyo, don't be surprised if that root method is never up again.

Help DZ noob to flash KitKat onto it

So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
ch3mn3y said:
So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
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Hey buddy,
Take a look through the first few posts here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266&page=16
It may seem like a lot but it will be worth it
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
ch3mn3y said:
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
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Correct, you have what we call fake s-off and only gives you a bit of help flashing your phone, to get true s-off the preferred method is to go back to stock and then downgrade and root with gfree
Relatively easy but a few steps needed first
If you have a chance to go to g2root on freenode iirc there is a good likelihood that guhl is there and will walk you through it all
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
demkantor said:
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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If You have time I would be grateful for advices how ro get from GB fake S-OFF to Recovery..
If not I will try tonight or tomorrow with this channel You wrote
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EDIT: It seems I have more time that I thought, so I'm checkin this g2root irc and waiting for someones answer
However if somebody could answer me one thing: With this fake S-OFF is it safe to downgrade using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Is it needed?
And what exactly S-OFF gives? Fastboot access like this Eng HBoot (at the beginning thought that it's HBoot from UK DZ/G2 )? Coz thats what I need : to flash CWM and than KK.
Downgraded, flashed Eng HBoot and CWM and KK is here. But I dont like it [emoji14] GB is coming...
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