Install Engineering Hboot or not to root? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom

please need some quick advice before i root

evilcuber said:
Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
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Installing eng hboot is not needed if you want to root but it is a good idea to have because
it will let you use fastboot commands ,lets say for any reason your recovery fail,you will
have the option to recover your phone through fastboot ,also you will need it if you want
to try different radios. However, if you want to install eng hboot ,you must be very carefull
when doing so otherwise you could brick your phone. make sure you follow every step and make sure that you are installing the the right one .(g2 and desire z have specific hboots).

wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?

evilcuber said:
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
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since you live in canada i assume you have a desire z not a g2 so you do not have to change your hboot for unity ,i didnt say you are more likely to brick your phone if you install eng hboot ,i said it is a good idea to install eng hboot so if for any reason your recovery fails you will have
an option to use fastboot and fix your phone, and then i said be very carefull when installing hboot and make sure you install the right hboot because g2 and desire z partition sizes are different so make sure if you have a desire z you are installing the one for desire z not the one that is for the g2. and make sure you type in the commands exactly like it said in the wiki .
(also seems like the wiki has changed since i was doing this, because i remember installing eng hboot was marked
as optional in the wiki before but now everything is different so you might actually need the eng boot now, i am not %100 sure i would wait for someone else to confirm what i said.)

Thanks for your help, i successfully rooted my htc desire z

@evilcuber May I use your thread to ask an additional question regarding hboot ?
I rooted my French DZ some times ago, I followed a tutorial from cyanogenmod wiki, most probably this one (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting) but I do not remember flashing an engineering hboot.
As I would like to install Unity, I have to check my phone runs the right hboot. Here is the information I have :
Thanks for your help !​

I think that as long as you have a DZ and not a G2, your hboot should be fine

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[Q] Strange Unrooting Problems

I purchased my Desire back in June and as soon as i found out about rooting
i used the one click unrevoked 3 method. Due to it being unbranded i didnt need a gold card i simply did so. After which i had problems installing some roms and its become too difficult so ive decided to unroot it and use it as it was meant to be until i gain more knowledge.
My problem is no matter which RUU i use following the unlocker method nothing works. I continue to get the error that none of the RUUs are suitable for my phone.
I have looked through the other posts but couldnt find an answer that worked for me.
my radio is 32.44.00.32u_5.09.05.30_2
Im running AuraxTSense 7.6.1 Froyo FRF91 by NeoPhyTe
Can anyone help me?
akurodam said:
I purchased my Desire back in June and as soon as i found out about rooting
i used the one click unrevoked 3 method. Due to it being unbranded i didnt need a gold card i simply did so. After which i had problems installing some roms and its become too difficult so ive decided to unroot it and use it as it was meant to be until i gain more knowledge.
My problem is no matter which RUU i use following the unlocker method nothing works. I continue to get the error that none of the RUUs are suitable for my phone.
I have looked through the other posts but couldnt find an answer that worked for me.
my radio is 32.44.00.32u_5.09.05.30_2
Im running AuraxTSense 7.6.1 Froyo FRF91 by NeoPhyTe
Can anyone help me?
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Hi,
Is your Hboot 0.93 ?
try this RUU : http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Enter bootloader (vol.dw+power), then plug the phone to USB and run the RUU it should work...
Have u installed HTC Sync again after using unrevoked?
U need the htc drivers installed
Have u tried LeeDroid?
Running stable and fast in my Desire, I rooted nd unrooted the phone twice, but every time i go back to unroot status i get bored, so root again, i think u should try another ROM first before unroot, try mine : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
Download de ROM,
Install thru ROM Manager or directly thru Recovery, but remember to Wipe data before u install make a clean install, if u still experience any issues go back to Stock...
My Hboot is 0.93.0001
Ill try the RUU tomorrow when i have enough time at my disposal
Although ill try leedroid first just in case. Hopefully it works and is good enough
thanks for the help
Just curious, but did it work?
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ferreinf said:
Hi,
Is your Hboot 0.93 ?
try this RUU : http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Enter bootloader (vol.dw+power), then plug the phone to USB and run the RUU it should work...
Have u installed HTC Sync again after using unrevoked?
U need the htc drivers installed
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You need to enter FASTBOOT (back + power) to run an RUU outside of Android

[Q] Concerns about rooting...

This will all probably sound extremely nooby but just want to make sure I dont do anything to break my new DHD!
I've previously had experience rooting and flashing ROMS on a Htc Hero and that seemed much simpler.
Basically what I want to know is, if I have a branded Orange DHD do i need to use a goldcard in order to flash ROMS like Android Revolution or is a gold card just if I want to a flash a HTC stock ROM? I've tried reading up on this but I'm still unsure...
And also, does rooting and flashing Roms and Radios affect the sim card at all or does it just affect the device itself?
Your similar card is fine no matter what you do, unless you try and bend it!
The process of flashing ROMs is exactly the same as the HTC Hero, my old phone, however some processes need to be run before you can flash.
If you have a branded Orange handset and firmware 1.72/1.84 you will need to downgrade to 1.32 before you can root and start these processes, ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF (Optional).
I will link an excellent guide that has all the info you need.
Here are the excellent guides
Downgrading --> [GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6 - Includes goldcard creation.
ENG S-OFF --> [TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
Radio S-OFF --> [TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root & S-OFF Guide)
Guides by jkoljo
Once you have done everything, simply install ROM Manager from the market, flash Recovery from within there, Download your chosen ROM, flash from Recovery.
One point to note,
If you intend to flash a 2.2 (Froyo) ROM use a 2.x.x.x Recovery
If you intend to flash a 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM use 3.x.x.x
thanks a lot, sorry to be a pain but the thing I'm really unclear about is if my DHD is Orange branded, but my firmware is 1.40.61.2 do i still need to downgrade to 1.32?
I don't know to be honest. Try running Visionary+ and see if you can root. If you can, then you don't need to downgrade.
Your firmware seems.to be rootable
Tapatalked with Tapatalk from my Desire HD using Tapatalk.
And I can confirm it, no need to downgrade
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
good info
well - just got myself a DHD today - should be with me soon !!! Nice !!!,
Thanks for the little Q & A on this matter, really helpful, As of yet I dont know what is on the phone - but Ill study the guides and see how I go. Ive previously toyed with last 2 HTC's ( Orbit & Polaris/Orbit 2 ) - that was fairly easy - but was a while ago so Im a little out of touch with these matters.
LoL - ill probabbly be back soon firing questions at you guys for help and guidance
Any guides for the pure DHD noob ??, explanation of phrases ect , As im a total virgin to the Android world
Hi dayze0
dayze0 said:
well - just got myself a DHD today - should be with me soon !!! Nice !!!,
Thanks for the little Q & A on this matter, really helpful, As of yet I dont know what is on the phone - but Ill study the guides and see how I go. Ive previously toyed with last 2 HTC's ( Orbit & Polaris/Orbit 2 ) - that was fairly easy - but was a while ago so Im a little out of touch with these matters.
LoL - ill probabbly be back soon firing questions at you guys for help and guidance
Any guides for the pure DHD noob ??, explanation of phrases ect , As im a total virgin to the Android world
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You should find most of the link you should need here:- DHD Development Sticky Roll-Up Thread
Take Care
TheQuest
andyharney said:
Here are the excellent guides
Downgrading --> [GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6 - Includes goldcard creation.
ENG S-OFF --> [TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
Radio S-OFF --> [TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root & S-OFF Guide)
Guides by jkoljo
Once you have done everything, simply install ROM Manager from the market, flash Recovery from within there, Download your chosen ROM, flash from Recovery.
One point to note,
If you intend to flash a 2.2 (Froyo) ROM use a 2.x.x.x Recovery
If you intend to flash a 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM use 3.x.x.x
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thhx

[Q] noob root desire guide

i have just been reading this guide to rooting my htc desire (original) and im not sure on this;
***This method only works for users with hboot 0.93 and lower. Sorry 1.06 users, but until unrevoked updates, your stuck on stock htc***
my desire is running on hboot 0.93.0001, does this mean i cant use this method.
You can use this method with your Desire.
0.93 hboot refers to your version actually.
many thanks mate, may have a go later after the IO
sgb101 said:
i have just been reading this guide to rooting my htc desire (original) and im not sure on this;
***This method only works for users with hboot 0.93 and lower. Sorry 1.06 users, but until unrevoked updates, your stuck on stock htc***
my desire is running on hboot 0.93.0001, does this mean i cant use this method.
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Sorry, which guide are you talking about? do u have a link?
sorry link
maikoru~ thanks, all done didnt take any longer than an hour and all is well, i now have CM7, was worried at first when no market but soon fond the update. CM is great, but its only my first custom so i think il be swapping and changing like mad for a while.
can you please recommend your favorites for me to test.
next root the SGS and banish touch wiz to where it belongs ....................

Need Helps for rooting Desire~

Some Intro first: My gf is asking me to root her device within 2 days
And that should be pitiful. I need some immediate help for this.
Wish some Bros/ Mans would understand me
Currently I m using a rooted HTC legend and overall I know some processes about rooting a device but I find sth stuck.
(I have already read some thread and tried to Google it in advance)
As I know, if i need to root it, I should have to dl the HTC sync for the driver.
~Ya, I got it as my legend need this too, but are they compatible? And Do I still need to del the sync and just leave the driver right there?( my legend don't need to do that)
Second thing is that I know some roms like this one ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940 ) require stock h-boot or cm7 h-boot
(in particular some only accept cm7 h-boot)
Flashing an alternate h-boot needs s-off?
If I dont change my h-boot or remove apps in system then I dont need to s-off my device, isn't it?
I sincerely thank ur helps
Rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 all you need to know should be there.
HTC Sync that one I can't help you with, no idea.
Flashing different hboot, yes you need to s-off.
If you don't s-off lots of roms use a2sd to combat the small internal memory. Unless you go just stock but if you do go a2sd you will need and ext3 or 4 on you sd card.
dude there are loads of guides... personally I would just root and get a custom rom on... If you then think you need to s-off deal with that then!!
Reflex s is a sense rom that doesn't need s-off and its awesome

Help DZ noob to flash KitKat onto it

So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
ch3mn3y said:
So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
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Hey buddy,
Take a look through the first few posts here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266&page=16
It may seem like a lot but it will be worth it
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
ch3mn3y said:
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
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Correct, you have what we call fake s-off and only gives you a bit of help flashing your phone, to get true s-off the preferred method is to go back to stock and then downgrade and root with gfree
Relatively easy but a few steps needed first
If you have a chance to go to g2root on freenode iirc there is a good likelihood that guhl is there and will walk you through it all
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
demkantor said:
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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If You have time I would be grateful for advices how ro get from GB fake S-OFF to Recovery..
If not I will try tonight or tomorrow with this channel You wrote
Sent using XT1562 - Resurrection Remix/Optimus Kernel
EDIT: It seems I have more time that I thought, so I'm checkin this g2root irc and waiting for someones answer
However if somebody could answer me one thing: With this fake S-OFF is it safe to downgrade using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Is it needed?
And what exactly S-OFF gives? Fastboot access like this Eng HBoot (at the beginning thought that it's HBoot from UK DZ/G2 )? Coz thats what I need : to flash CWM and than KK.
Downgraded, flashed Eng HBoot and CWM and KK is here. But I dont like it [emoji14] GB is coming...
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