[Q] Data throttle. - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

Is there a way to get unthrottled 3g speed back? I don't even get 1mb down.
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If there is any throttling going on, it's done on the carrier side and there isn't anything you can do about it. Unless you're in the top 5% of data users, it's doubtful you're being throttled.

k_nivesout said:
If there is any throttling going on, it's done on the carrier side and there isn't anything you can do about it. Unless you're in the top 5% of data users, it's doubtful you're being throttled.
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Well, on my previous phone, droid 2, it wasn't carrier side, it was built into the framework and would get triggered when you passed x amount of data. Some guy found the file and created a patch to restore normal speed, I flashed it on my droid 2 and went from the 0.5mbps, to 1.5mbps. Wasn't sure if there was something similar to that patch for the Inc 2.
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zombiiez said:
Well, on my previous phone, droid 2, it wasn't carrier side, it was built into the framework and would get triggered when you passed x amount of data. Some guy found the file and created a patch to restore normal speed, I flashed it on my droid 2 and went from the 0.5mbps, to 1.5mbps. Wasn't sure if there was something similar to that patch for the Inc 2.
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They had that with the original Inc also. Proved to be nothing in our control. False sense of security. Long thread discussing this and found to be useless to most

Wow. Any ballpark on what the "x" amount of data was?

After reading reception issues on this and other forums, I'm thinking this may be related to poor antenna design.
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If you're being throttled then I suspect you are doing something very wrong. I've broken 8gb without being throttled, including on my Inc2.
In any case...
In most places in my area I break 1mbit pretty easily. However, there are places where it's not unusual to be stuck at 300k-500k. This isn't throttling. This is poor signal quality in the area. The only way to get around it is get a better signal. Not a stronger signal...a better signal.

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If you're being throttled then I suspect you are doing something very wrong. I've broken 8gb without being throttled, including on my Inc2.
In any case...
In most places in my area I break 1mbit pretty easily. However, there are places where it's not unusual to be stuck at 300k-500k. This isn't throttling. This is poor signal quality in the area. The only way to get around it is get a better signal. Not a stronger signal...a better signal.
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So basically, there's nothing I can do, unless I move?
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zombiiez said:
So basically, there's nothing I can do, unless I move?
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Pretty much, yes. You can also try purchasing a repeater/signal booster (note: these are devices that can be expensive that you mount to a structure, not small devices or stickers you attach to your phone).

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[Q] Is there any way to make sure my 4G is functional without being in a 4G area?

I'm pretty confident the warranty on my Evo will expire before 4G comes to my home area, despite the salesperson stating that it would here prior to 2010 year-end, Sprint has not even announced plans for my city yet.
So, I just wan to make sure it's working without having to travel 3 hrs minimum to test it on an actual WiMax signal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861989&highlight=rsa+keys
This will check to make sure your RSA keys are intact. Not sure of a way to actually test the signal without 4G in your area.
tempguest said:
I'm pretty confident the warranty on my Evo will expire before 4G comes to my home area, despite the salesperson stating that it would here prior to 2010 year-end, Sprint has not even announced plans for my city yet.
So, I just wan to make sure it's working without having to travel 3 hrs minimum to test it on an actual WiMax signal.
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Mail me your phone and I'll test it....
seriously though, Your keys can be in tact and all but it could be possible 4g still doesn't work... It's pretty much impossible to know without putting yourself in a 4g area.
dglowe343 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861989&highlight=rsa+keys
This will check to make sure your RSA keys are intact. Not sure of a way to actually test the signal without 4G in your area.
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I've actually backed them up already, but only after I rooted, nand unlocked, and install a custom ROM. I wasn't aware I could do this before I did.
I ran the grep command and the output was in order, but from what I understand, that output isn't a sure-fire way to insure that it's working.
Any other thoughts?
EDIT: Just noticed that we're both waiting on the same location for 4G.
leenypost said:
Mail me your phone and I'll test it....
seriously though, Your keys can be in tact and all but it could be possible 4g still doesn't work... It's pretty much impossible to know without putting yourself in a 4g area.
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I'm assuming you're in an area covered by 4G then? You know that the 4G is working on your phone, right?
Let me ask you this, then: what happens in your phones 4G settings menu when you're not getting a signal? Will your phone scan for a few seconds, then after not finding a signal, look like this:
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4G stays on but says disconnected after a few seconds?
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EDIT: Just noticed that we're both waiting on the same location for 4G.
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Yeah, I'm actually in Tampa right now visiting family and got to test 4G for the first time. It's nice but I dont consider 3G in the Detroit area to be that bad. Plus wifi is everywhere and much better on battery life.

3g speeds super low.

I've updated my PRL and profile several times. My old phone was slow too. Could something be wrong with my account?
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It could be your area. Try testing in different locations. If it's still slow, then it may be your account.
Sometimes if you use a lot of data, there is some evidence to suggest sprint may throttle you.
The other thing could be your phone. If you have a lot of processes going, even ones that don't use data, it can still affect the phones ability to work properly.
I would try ruling those out and then call Sprint.
Evo running UD 2.5
Yeah my wifes phone gets about 500k compared to my 50 ish. 4g works good tho..
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Installed a non sense rom and it shows I'm not even connecting to 3g at all..
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There is a thread for this already, a lot of people are having this same problem, including me. It started around November, when before, I would constantly get at least 1500kbps down and up, as both my home and work are less than a block from a tower.
After one day for some reason, I can NEVER get anything above 100kpbs, and it usually doesnt work at all. I have done everything, and sprint, stupidly, thinks that its a hardware problem every time, and since November, they have given me 5 brand new evo's. ALL have the exact same problem. I'm no expert, but 5 brand new phones dont all have the same problem. I have called CS MANY MANY times, and they refuse to check their end, saying every time that "our network is fine".
Whats weird, every friend I have on sprint, their phones are fine, even 3 year old phones. Whats even weirder, my friend with an evo, and the evo's in the sprint store all are fine. But with this thread on here, and a long thread on AF, there seems to be an isolated issue with a lot of people.
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Whats weird, every friend I have on sprint, their phones are fine, even 3 year old phones. Whats even weirder, my friend with an evo, and the evo's in the sprint store all are fine. But with this thread on here, and a long thread on AF, there seems to be an isolated issue with a lot of people.
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Well you can count me in as an isolated issue. My 3G has been fine for like 2 years now, and all of the sudden, I'd say the past month or more, total crap. It's taking me about 5 minutes or more to download a 2mb app update on the market. 4G is still good. I really wish I knew what was going on. I do the same Profile and PRL updates like the OP daily.
Well its definitely not my 3g being "slow". I am just not connecting to it. Qik errors and says I am not connected to 3g. My data status says 1x RTT for my connection. I need to call sprint.

Data Throttle Remover question.

Is there a new DTR for the newest nightlies? I'm on 97. I tried the previous one for 7.0.3, and my phone got stuff at the white boot screen everytime.
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Not that it matters, but you do realize that the DTR mod is merely snake oil, right? It does not prevent VZW from throttling you, nor does it reduce the likelihood of it. It does not increase speeds. All it does it remove the capability for device-side throttling, which carriers don't even utilize. As such, wrapping your phone in wax paper and spooning cherry pie filling on it would have the same net effect on "throttling"as the DTR mod
Are you sure? Because before I first installed the mod, my data affords speeds were at 0.6mbps. With mod, it was constantly 1.3mbps. Now that I flashed a new ROM, mod gone, I'm back to .6.
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...before I first installed the mod, my data affords speeds were at 0.6mbps. With mod, it was constantly 1.3mbps. Now that I flashed a new ROM, mod gone, I'm back to .6
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How often do you see this icon in your notification bar?
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Never seen that.
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Never seen that.
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Then najaboy is absolutely correct.
Data Throttle Remover - let's do some mythbusting
Even the original developers of this hack claim that it no longer works (it is referred to as "extinct") and only originally had any effect on T-Mobile and Canada Bell:
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SO FAR, THIS HAS ONLY BEEN KNOWN TO WORK ON T-MOBILE USA AND CANADA BELL... ALL OTHER CARRIERS SEEM TO HAVE THESE FILES JUST BECAUSE IT'S A STANDARD IN ANDROID 2.2.1 AND SEEM TO BE CONTROLLED COMPLETELY OTA UNLIKE TMOBILE AND BELL...
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The link above also has more of a timeline for when this mod was ported across the various phones (and therefore various carriers)
Ask yourself why the CM team doesn't bother messing with this mod. If it did what it claimed, why wouldn't they include it stock? After all, they include tethering functionality as part of the rom itself.
One thing I never got is why they (CM team) haven't gone ahead and removed it. Yes, most mobile companies don't use it and probably never will, but stranger things have happened. Plus it would cut down on the size of the ROM, however small.
Alright fair enough, so any other logical reason for the random data speed increases and losses at the same spots.
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Its just variation in network speed, I don't know that there's much rhyme or reason to it. I was getting 200-400kbps down earlier today, tested it like 20 mins later and was getting 800-1000kbps. Same location, same setup.
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I Am Marino said:
Alright fair enough, so any other logical reason for the random data speed increases and losses at the same spots.
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There are moment to moment variations in how RF signals propagate. What makes the DTR popular is that people see this variation, whether positive or negative, and incorrectly attribute it to the mod. It's a textbook post hoc logical fallacy.
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[APP] Real Signal v2 - Might shed light on signal issue?

I developed this app over a year ago for the Incredible when it had really wacked out stock signal bars.
I'm not sure what the Nexus signal bar issue is exactly, but maybe this can help those how care to use it.
I'm in a 3G only area, so I'd like to know how it works with 4G on.
Thanks!
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I developed this app over a year ago for the Incredible when it had really wacked out stock signal bars.
I'm not sure what the Nexus signal bar issue is exactly, but maybe this can help those how care to use it.
I'm in a 3G only area, so I'd like to know how it works with 4G on.
Thanks!
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Thanks, but no matter how you cut it, the GN has a signal issue, and its not limited to visual indicators via signal bars. I was literally at -141dbm this weekend and had a signal. That should have never been possible.
adrynalyne said:
Thanks, but no matter how you cut it, the GN has a signal issue, and its not limited to visual indicators via signal bars. I was literally at -141dbm this weekend and had a signal. That should have never been possible.
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Hey adrynalyne, love your work.. been an avid user of your rom contributions over the past year or two... thanks for all that effort!
Where you seeing the -141? You using a 3rd party signal app, logcat or looking in the settings/status? I haven't see anything like that, but I'm only in a 3G zone.
Just wondering if the GN uses raw Telephony object data directly or if Samsung/Verizon has the Telephony wrapped and modified to what they want us to see.
adrynalyne said:
Thanks, but no matter how you cut it, the GN has a signal issue, and its not limited to visual indicators via signal bars. I was literally at -141dbm this weekend and had a signal. That should have never been possible.
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I get a solid -120dbm on my Nexus at home, which on my Droid meant no signal. The Nexus actually says "Time without signal - 100%" under the battery stats. Yet I get a more stable 3G connection most of the time and can actually browse the web. Definitely not reporting correctly.
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Hey adrynalyne, love your work.. been an avid user of your rom contributions over the past year or two... thanks for all that effort!
Where you seeing the -141? You using a 3rd party signal app, logcat or looking in the settings/status? I haven't see anything like that, but I'm only in a 3G zone.
Just wondering if the GN uses raw Telephony object data directly or if Samsung/Verizon has the Telephony wrapped and modified to what they want us to see.
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I was looking under status, which is under about phone.

Incredibly slow 3G data; is Sprint throttling me?

So, for the majority of last month I recall having absolute **** speeds on 3G ranging from 20 to 70 Kbps occasionally reaching to something like 120Kbps. This is in my normal coverage area where I can often get from 1100 to 1800 Kbps. I had thought that I might be getting throttled since I used a total of like 14GB of 3G last month. The new billing cycle started today and I'm still getting the same horrid speeds. What gives? I've already reflashed my ROM and modem without any benefit. Anyone else know what could be going on?
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Sprint is the problem. LOL I'm not sure have you tried contacting Sprint? I'm jelly that you can even achieve 1200kbps.
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Hahahahahahaha I remember those days. Man that's how bad sprints service is. That's why I left them and went with Verizon.
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Seriously? Who would stay with a carrier that would take 5 minutes just to load a picture? I'll be sure to call them later. For some reason that never crossed my mind.
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I tried Sprint briefly years ago, sounds like they haven't improved much since then.
if not for the LTE in my area (san antonio) sprint would be unusable.
It sounds like 1X data speeds and not 3G, some of the stock roms display a 3G icon even when connected to 1X data. If you use the speedtest app
it will show a graph of the results, if the speed graph looks like it hits a ceiling around 100k,.it is probably connected to 1X data.
If you see multiple spikes in the graph well above 100k, it is probably a crappy connection/signal.
Same here. I'm on Virgin Mobile, but it's apart of Sprint too. It's been crappy for the past week.
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I'm on Sprint. Get about 500 to 1000kbits on 3G in my area. I understand they're not great in all areas, but the price is good.
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So. Uh. If that isn't the best speed test you've ever seen? I think Jellybro has the 1x indicator fix and the normal upload speeds seem to indicate I'm on 3G. Sprint dude just said to take it to a store. I guess I'll do that. Unless going back to complete stock might fox something. I'll try that next.
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So. Uh. If that isn't the best speed test you've ever seen? I think Jellybro has the 1x indicator fix and the normal upload speeds seem to indicate I'm on 3G. Sprint dude just said to take it to a store. I guess I'll do that. Unless going back to complete stock might fox something. I'll try that next.
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Wow!!!
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