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IMEI-Check

IMEI-Check used to run by a guy called Florin Mandache. He always seemed very good, helpful and I think was highly regarded, from what I've read on various forums.
Suddenly his unlocking site has insisted that you need to send them some Photo-ID in addition to the PayPal payment. Hang on a minute, fraud is not his problem, that's up to PayPal and PayPal say they do not need it.
In my case the payment has gone from PayPal to IMEI-Check but they're still insisting on Photo-ID
So I inquired to [email protected] as to why Photo-ID was needed as just about everybody advises you nowadays, not to give out that kinda stuff on the net!
The reply "Below" was not like any reply I'd seen Florin make on bulletin boards before (his english is better!) and now I'm very nervous about using them...
----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question regarding fraud
Hello,
We want to make sure that you are the real owner of the account and nothing else. We are LTD company, and we signed the data protection act.
If you still worried about sending the ID, i recomend you to use one of our reseller www.unlockitnow.com.
Regards,
IMEI-CHECK Team
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Unlockitnow.com are a reseller???..
Does anybody have any thoughts?
Thanks,
Dai

Hi there,
We had to introduce this protection to avoid people buying with hijacked accounts , because two weeks ago we cought one of the big scammers/phishers and now police is investigating this and paypal and ebay need (a much to long) time to investigate.
So to protect ourself we had to install this extra protection.
The seller is not getting any money if was used by hijacked paypal accounts. Even worse we have to pay GBP7 / reversed transaction...
To keep this service online we request something which proves identity of the paypal account holder. So the hijacker (which sold for 15GBP on ebay) will not have a chance anymore. We have to continue until police arrested this guy (full address and name are known)
Regarding paypal saying not to send anything is not true! Paypal says NOT TO SEND CREDIT CARD DETAILS OR BANK DETAILS (we never ask for them).
Also here is a quote from our paypal manager (when we said to them that we had to introduce this verification because PayPal don't protect us and our sells droped):
"If you conduct business on the internet, you should be putting processes
in place to minimise your risk as much as possible, so the id
verification is an excellent idea. As a business person, I presume you
weighed up the costs of losing out to fraudulent activity relative to
the drop in sales. These processes are your responsibility, not
PayPal's. PayPal enables you to transact quickly and safely with buyers,
they are not obliged to absorb losses you incur in doing so. Most
businesses factor in a percentage to cover these sort of losses
regardless of whether it is the physical or online environment."
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CREDIT CARD FRAUD IS A CRIME![/quote]

Is this a scam by www.Unlockcodes.ie ??

Here is what happened.I paid for two unlocking codes from thier web site. It cleary stated that they had the capability to unlock my model cell phone which they list have listed on their site
http://www.unlockcodes.ie/index.php/application/credit
...but now they are telling me the codes are not available from their suppliers but they have proceeded to hold on to my credit card funds and i must use the unlocking credits that I have purchased on their site with no way of redeeming my funds back to my credit card,even though I have no wish to use this web site ever again.
Has this scenario happened to anyone else before?

Sounds like they could do what they promised and just don't want to give you your money back.
I would file a complaint with Pay Pal amd contact your Credit Card Company's fraud dept.
I have found that I have a very small voice, but American Express can weild a very big hammer.

Avoid htccode.com scammer thief

I ordered a code to unlock my desire from HTCCODE.COM last month Never got my code, Zero contact from the seller, sent e-mails for a refund but got no replies, field a dispute with paypal and got this answer.
Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
We have concluded our investigation into your case:
Case ID: PP-000-978-685-028
Transaction Date: 6 Jun 2010
Transaction Amount: -15.00 EUR
Seller's Email: [email protected]
Seller's Name: Synapz
Unfortunately, we were unable to resolve this claim in your favour because
the item purchased was virtual or intangible. As a result, we have not
taken any action against the seller at this time but we have noted your
dissatisfaction in the seller's record for future reference.
If you still have concerns about this transaction, we encourage you to
continue to work directly with the seller for an amicable resolution.
Thank you,
July
Protection Services Department
Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.
So be warned people can just take your money with no repercussions.
Very very sad, paypal are completely useless, so much for buyer protection. its only 15 euros but its the principal, im going to let as many people know about this as possible, there shoudl be laws against people like this how is it in this day and age people can still hide behine the internets anonymity and "virtual items" loopholes.
So be WARNED AVOID HTCCODE.COM

The scammer is proberley hetrosexual.
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Eh Dear, shame about that mate
if you gave sent the money as a gift they might be able to do something about it but other then that your boned!
If you have a hacker friend just point him at totalgsm.org and say the magic words,,,,, 'please yourself'

Use eBay to unlock your desire. The unlockers on there get about 99.8% positive feedback and your money will be protected. Plus it's cheaper than anywhere else. Why pay more?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

i dont like any of these unlock sites, i would rather go to some guy in a dodgy phone shop.
if you read the terms and conditions on these sites, what is says is quite shocking.
in a nutshell you are buying a code, not a service to unlock your phone. so if the code doesn't unlock your phone, you just payed for a random number, literally.

Paypal is the expert on providing reasons to now help you, I have been on both ends (seller & buyer) and Paypal gave some reason in all cases not to help.

I've used HTCCODE.COM in the past and although communication hasn't been great, they've always come through eventually.
PM ferraripassion on these forums, as he is part of HTCCODE.COM and I'm sure he'll either give you your code or refund your money.
Regards,
Dave

You're quiet unlucky, as I did file a paypal dispute and won, got the whole of my money back and crossed the website of my agenda.

They didn't give your code cos they are all off their faces on your hard earnt moneez.
Selling a number is a scam in the first place IMO

I purchased the unlock using a credit card, and couldn't get the htccode unlock application to connect. I used the live support link on the website and an engineer took my IMEI number, and 10 minutes later I received my code via email which worked perfectly.
This is the second time I have used them successfully for different devices, and although I understand your frustration at not getting your code, you do not explain what went wrong in the first place to cause you to want to get a refund.
Categizoring a service as a scam due to a single failure does not seem representative to me; perhaps you can clarify what went wrong in the first place, and how you have tried to contact them as they were very responsive in my case, and anxious to receive good feedback.
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matthewb66 said:
I purchased the unlock using a credit card, and couldn't get the htccode unlock application to connect. I used the live support link on the website and an engineer took my IMEI number, and 10 minutes later I received my code via email which worked perfectly.
This is the second time I have used them successfully for different devices, and although I understand your frustration at not getting your code, you do not explain what went wrong in the first place to cause you to want to get a refund.
Categizoring a service as a scam due to a single failure does not seem representative to me; perhaps you can clarify what went wrong in the first place, and how you have tried to contact them as they were very responsive in my case, and anxious to receive good feedback.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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did you not read his post?
he clarified what went wrong, and that is that HE NEVER GOT THE UNLOCK CODE
he also says that he e-mailed them numerous times with no response

code from ebay
I used express-codes from ebay paid 8.99 £ got the code 5 minutes later
would use again

trucker11 said:
I used express-codes from ebay paid 8.99 £ got the code 5 minutes later
would use again
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They're actually charging £17.99 for the Desire.
EDIT: Sorry, they have multiple auctions for the same device all at different prices. How bizarre.

Hmm can anyone recommend any good sites then? I've heard Unlock Zone is a good safe site with very good feedback. Any other good and trusted sites to unlock?

I'm gonna say you were just unlucky/something went wrong. Paul O'Brien (who laid a fair share of the groundwork for rooting Desires) supports that site, as it's a sticky topic on his forum, and I trust that guy.

Help! Bell is trying to take my GNex pre-order away!

I posted the thread about Bell and Virgin taking pre-orders the other day and I'm the one that is supposed to receive the phone for $235. But Bell called me 36 hours after the deal had been made to try and tell me they couldn't do it.
I've spoken with a few reps and 2 supervisors and now I'm waiting for a manager call back.
A little background:
I called early, was offered a data discount of $415. The rep checked and double checked just to be sure and the order was put through.
Then later on in the day, the option to get the phone off contract had disappeared along with the option to get it on a 1 or 2 year term. So I entered into a chat with a live online rep, and he also double checked and reassured me I was eligible for the discount and able to get the phone. All systems go.
Now yesterday, after work they called me. Telling me they couldn't authorize it. So now, like I said, I'm waiting for a call from a manager.
My main argument is that they entered into a verbal contract with me. I understand their employees made a mistake, but that isn't my fault. I was just there to capitalize. Help me!

Verbal contracts are as binding as written, only harder to prove, if you have a logg over your online chat, copy it and keep it!
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Tjotte said:
Verbal contracts are as binding as written, only harder to prove, if you have a logg over your online chat, copy it and keep it!
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I decided not to save the online chat I really really should of. But I have another one stating my ability to get the phone on no contract on the day of release.

Did you not receive confirmation of the pre-order? Surely they have to honour it, after checking three times and saying it was OK?

Neville.Holland said:
Did you not receive confirmation of the pre-order? Surely they have to honour it, after checking three times and saying it was OK?
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I would hope so. But no, I didn't receive an email or anything because the phone was set to go on my bill. But as I stated, there are several notes on my account confirming that I was to get the phone for the discounted price.

This doesn't really surprise me. I've heard people say a lot of bad things about Rogers, but I'm starting to reconsider switching to Bell for the Nexus. As I mentioned in your other thread on Monday, they actually refused to sign me up as a new Bell customer... and now you're having these problems... maybe I should just wait for Rogers to get the Nexus in January...

I just called a Bell store yesterday and asked if I could reserve a handset. They said that wasn't a problem and they just require my name and number. I told them clearly i was going to buy if off of contract and he said that is fine. I proceeded to ask him how many devices I can buy and he said they do not have a per client cap on device sales.
Needless to say I will be at the bell store at 10am on the 8th and buying a few Galaxy Nexuseseses =)

Goat_For_Sale said:
Needless to say I will be at the bell store at 10am on the 8th and buying a few Galaxy Nexuseseses =)
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and selling it to people in the US for a since profit

Goat_For_Sale said:
I just called a Bell store yesterday and asked if I could reserve a handset. They said that wasn't a problem and they just require my name and number. I told them clearly i was going to buy if off of contract and he said that is fine. I proceeded to ask him how many devices I can buy and he said they do not have a per client cap on device sales.
Needless to say I will be at the bell store at 10am on the 8th and buying a few Galaxy Nexuseseses =)
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Thats all lovely, I just really want them to honor the price they offered. Fingers are crossed.

Tjotte said:
Verbal contracts are as binding as written, only harder to prove, if you have a logg over your online chat, copy it and keep it!
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That is a massive misconception. Verbal contracts are *NOT* binding in the same way that written contracts are. Don't believe everything you hear on television.
Secondly, verbal contracts, irrelevant of their legality, can be broken very easily, when it comes to commerce. If the party providing the service (Bell, in this case) decides they don't want to provide the service for the price agreed upon, they can cancel the entire contract. What this means is you would have the right to cancel the transaction (assuming the price has actually changed from the time you agreed upon it) and walk away without penalty.
Now, do you have no assurance at all, in writing, that you were purchasing the phone for that price? Don't you have a pay stub, credit card transaction, or anything? They can't "force" you to buy the phone for the full price if you agreed upon a lower price. Legally, they *do* have to give you the option of cancelling the transaction (once again, if the final price was different from the agreed-upon price).
Now, on to the "verbal contract" misconception. There are 3 parts of a contract, both verbal and written (let's see if I remember their names). Offer, Acceptance, and Consideration.
Offer: Someone offers something. In this case, Bell offers you service for a certain price.
Acceptance: The offer is accepted. In this case, you accepted the offer by agreeing to purchase the item.
Consideration: Something must be exchanged. In this case, it was most likely a charge placed on your credit card. Usually it's a downpayment of some kind, or sometimes just a promise/contract that it'll be paid.
Sounds like only 2 of those have been met...which makes this *not* a verbal contract. Even if the third had been, when the contract terms change (the price), the accepting party has the right to opt out.

hotleadsingerguy said:
That is a massive misconception. Verbal contracts are *NOT* binding in the same way that written contracts are. Don't believe everything you hear on television.
Secondly, verbal contracts, irrelevant of their legality, can be broken very easily, when it comes to commerce. If the party providing the service (Bell, in this case) decides they don't want to provide the service for the price agreed upon, they can cancel the entire contract. What this means is you would have the right to cancel the transaction (assuming the price has actually changed from the time you agreed upon it) and walk away without penalty.
Now, do you have no assurance at all, in writing, that you were purchasing the phone for that price? Don't you have a pay stub, credit card transaction, or anything? They can't "force" you to buy the phone for the full price if you agreed upon a lower price. Legally, they *do* have to give you the option of cancelling the transaction (once again, if the final price was different from the agreed-upon price).
Now, on to the "verbal contract" misconception. There are 3 parts of a contract, both verbal and written (let's see if I remember their names). Offer, Acceptance, and Consideration.
Offer: Someone offers something. In this case, Bell offers you service for a certain price.
Acceptance: The offer is accepted. In this case, you accepted the offer by agreeing to purchase the item.
Consideration: Something must be exchanged. In this case, it was most likely a charge placed on your credit card. Usually it's a downpayment of some kind, or sometimes just a promise/contract that it'll be paid.
Sounds like only 2 of those have been met...which makes this *not* a verbal contract. Even if the third had been, when the contract terms change (the price), the accepting party has the right to opt out.
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Unfortunately, you're most likely correct. I just have to bank on the good will of the manager I'm going to talk to. I will report back once I've spoken with them.

HideYoKids said:
Unfortunately, you're most likely correct. I just have to bank on the good will of the manager I'm going to talk to. I will report back once I've spoken with them.
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lol not to be self-indulgent, but I'm not just *most likely* correct

Unfortunately, all they were willing to give me was $100 bill credit and 2 free months of my voice plan, for a total of $150. Instead of the $415 I was originally offered.

OnePlus website: Data Theft - Query

Hey
Just wanted to check in and notify / see if anyone else has had issues with their OnePlus 5t purchase from the official Oneplus website?
I recently upgraded my 3t with a white 5t last week, using a credit card that I don't normally use (it's left in the house). Literally a day later, I get a call from my credit card company advising me they have blocked multiple attempted electrical purchases. My mobile phone number was also "reported stolen" at the same time, I assume to try and facilitate the credit card fraud. It appears as though I am not the only one who has experienced this issue, after buying direct off the Oneplus website.
There is a long thread on their 5t Community Forums named "Credit Card Fraud" with multiple folk being defrauded. (I can't post a link to the post yet, as I am a new-ish user )
Whilst I can not 100% say this is down to Oneplus, the balance of probability is that someone in their employee / contractor chain has potentially stolen customer details.
Just a heads up for those considering a direct purchase.

Thanks for the heads up. I found the thread you're referring to. The fraud seems to be spreading all over. I've always had fraud alerts enabled on all my accounts but just to be safe I checked all my cards and i'm good for now. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Why don't you use PayPal ?

Yeah I've used paypal with my Oneplus purchases. The company the money actually goes to is unknown to me.
"DA SHENG INTERNATIONAL TRADE CO., LIMITED"
Whoever that is :L

Jonnyn93 said:
Yeah I've used paypal with my Oneplus purchases. The company the money actually goes to is unknown to me.
"DA SHENG INTERNATIONAL TRADE CO., LIMITED"
Whoever that is :L
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OnePlus' PayPal account if you can believe it.

Jonnyn93 said:
Yeah I've used paypal with my Oneplus purchases. The company the money actually goes to is unknown to me.
"DA SHENG INTERNATIONAL TRADE CO., LIMITED"
Whoever that is :L
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It's the company owning 1+

Just seen the masses of Reddit posts on this issue. It looks big!

There's no employee involved in it. It's just a flaw OP has on site.
https://www.fidusinfosec.com/oneplus-checkout

raptor2003 said:
It's the company owning 1+
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Oneplus is owned by BBK Electronics

My bank preactively deactivated my CC because I had bought from a merchant which had served other customers which became victims to fraud: OnePlus. I am now waiting for a new card to be issued, luckily I did not see any fraudulent transactions on my account.

I'm in the "club"
I saw this post earlier this week... Immediately I logged in and checked my credit card and saw that everything was OK.
Today, however, I got a message from my credit card warning me about a possible fraudulent activity which I didn't do. So... yes, happened to me also...
Thanks for the heads up!