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The phone is still not in stores or in the possession of resellers, it's extremely tricky to get even on AT&T's websites and phone numbers yet there are auctions like this one popping up for suckers who really really want to buy the phone but don't have a stupid Premier account. This particular seller who has no feedback claims to provide "NORESERVE,NOCONTRAC, FAST DELIVERY I HAV ALOT IN STOCK" along with Pures and unlocking codes.
I'd bet green cash that this is fraud but as of now there are seven bidders fighting at $250 and climbing. Put it this way, if I were to set out right now to rob people on eBay, I'd start with bogus Tilt 2 listings. High demand. At best the guy is a thief and these are hot phones (you don't want a hot phone with a hot IMEI number), more likely the phones don't exist and he's a full time asshole. What I'd also bet is that there will be other thieves doing what he is (but hopefully spelling better).
Point being do not, do *not* expect not to be ripped off on eBay (along with other random sites you find on google) for the Tilt 2 until at least a week after the phone has been released in stores. And if you do buy it, get the seller to produce a picture of the phone with a timestamped post-it note. If you can't get lucky with one of many tips on this thread, just wait it out. It will really mess with your head and bank account to get scammed for this phone because you couldn't wait until the 18th. Hang in there champ.
For those of you looking to unlock, don't get suckered for codes buy guys like this, go to Olipro's http://rhodium.htc-unlocks.com/ which work on all carriers' TP2s, costing you a reasonable $18 apiece.
Doug
Why would you need to pay $18.00 to somebody to unlock your phone when you can call your carrier and get them to unlock it for free ?
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Why would you need to pay $18.00 to somebody to unlock your phone when you can call your carrier and get them to unlock it for free ?
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This guys right, I work for Vodafone Corporate Customer Services in the UK, and we provide Network Unlock Codes for all devices we provide..... for free.
I would assume that most operators would give the same service.
However, OliPro does provide Sec Unlocking with operators won't do.
I ordered a code to unlock my desire from HTCCODE.COM last month Never got my code, Zero contact from the seller, sent e-mails for a refund but got no replies, field a dispute with paypal and got this answer.
Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
We have concluded our investigation into your case:
Case ID: PP-000-978-685-028
Transaction Date: 6 Jun 2010
Transaction Amount: -15.00 EUR
Seller's Email: [email protected]
Seller's Name: Synapz
Unfortunately, we were unable to resolve this claim in your favour because
the item purchased was virtual or intangible. As a result, we have not
taken any action against the seller at this time but we have noted your
dissatisfaction in the seller's record for future reference.
If you still have concerns about this transaction, we encourage you to
continue to work directly with the seller for an amicable resolution.
Thank you,
July
Protection Services Department
Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.
So be warned people can just take your money with no repercussions.
Very very sad, paypal are completely useless, so much for buyer protection. its only 15 euros but its the principal, im going to let as many people know about this as possible, there shoudl be laws against people like this how is it in this day and age people can still hide behine the internets anonymity and "virtual items" loopholes.
So be WARNED AVOID HTCCODE.COM
The scammer is proberley hetrosexual.
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Eh Dear, shame about that mate
if you gave sent the money as a gift they might be able to do something about it but other then that your boned!
If you have a hacker friend just point him at totalgsm.org and say the magic words,,,,, 'please yourself'
Use eBay to unlock your desire. The unlockers on there get about 99.8% positive feedback and your money will be protected. Plus it's cheaper than anywhere else. Why pay more?
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i dont like any of these unlock sites, i would rather go to some guy in a dodgy phone shop.
if you read the terms and conditions on these sites, what is says is quite shocking.
in a nutshell you are buying a code, not a service to unlock your phone. so if the code doesn't unlock your phone, you just payed for a random number, literally.
Paypal is the expert on providing reasons to now help you, I have been on both ends (seller & buyer) and Paypal gave some reason in all cases not to help.
I've used HTCCODE.COM in the past and although communication hasn't been great, they've always come through eventually.
PM ferraripassion on these forums, as he is part of HTCCODE.COM and I'm sure he'll either give you your code or refund your money.
Regards,
Dave
You're quiet unlucky, as I did file a paypal dispute and won, got the whole of my money back and crossed the website of my agenda.
They didn't give your code cos they are all off their faces on your hard earnt moneez.
Selling a number is a scam in the first place IMO
I purchased the unlock using a credit card, and couldn't get the htccode unlock application to connect. I used the live support link on the website and an engineer took my IMEI number, and 10 minutes later I received my code via email which worked perfectly.
This is the second time I have used them successfully for different devices, and although I understand your frustration at not getting your code, you do not explain what went wrong in the first place to cause you to want to get a refund.
Categizoring a service as a scam due to a single failure does not seem representative to me; perhaps you can clarify what went wrong in the first place, and how you have tried to contact them as they were very responsive in my case, and anxious to receive good feedback.
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matthewb66 said:
I purchased the unlock using a credit card, and couldn't get the htccode unlock application to connect. I used the live support link on the website and an engineer took my IMEI number, and 10 minutes later I received my code via email which worked perfectly.
This is the second time I have used them successfully for different devices, and although I understand your frustration at not getting your code, you do not explain what went wrong in the first place to cause you to want to get a refund.
Categizoring a service as a scam due to a single failure does not seem representative to me; perhaps you can clarify what went wrong in the first place, and how you have tried to contact them as they were very responsive in my case, and anxious to receive good feedback.
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did you not read his post?
he clarified what went wrong, and that is that HE NEVER GOT THE UNLOCK CODE
he also says that he e-mailed them numerous times with no response
code from ebay
I used express-codes from ebay paid 8.99 £ got the code 5 minutes later
would use again
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I used express-codes from ebay paid 8.99 £ got the code 5 minutes later
would use again
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They're actually charging £17.99 for the Desire.
EDIT: Sorry, they have multiple auctions for the same device all at different prices. How bizarre.
Hmm can anyone recommend any good sites then? I've heard Unlock Zone is a good safe site with very good feedback. Any other good and trusted sites to unlock?
I'm gonna say you were just unlucky/something went wrong. Paul O'Brien (who laid a fair share of the groundwork for rooting Desires) supports that site, as it's a sticky topic on his forum, and I trust that guy.
It kinda sells itself, but after losing $350 due to someone receiving my item, Delivery confirmation confirming it and PayPal still refunding their money, I have decided to make the transition to other means of accepting payments.
They have a failsafe method like PayPal (link), and they charge no fees, without having to use an unsafe "gifting" method.
It wouldn't be too hard to implement, and it would help those of us who want a safe method to pay without the unfairness of paypal.
agreed. Haven't used paypal in a couple of years, except when using a CC without logging in. No way I'd ever give them a chance after I got shafted on an ebay sale...
Can you give an example link to donate?
At the moment the system uses an e-mail address to build a PayPal URL. I don't know the limitations of the plugin we used for this, nor if we can implement it, but this info might help.
Thanks
Dave
Sure, It is outlined here. You need an amazon account, but once signed in, you go here
I think it would help people hesitant of using PayPal and their corrupt practices. You send money for free, and you have a net to protect yourself.
I've heard you mention this before, just checked out the website and looks like a good, viable alternative.
Do you know if it's a worldwide thing, or just limited to the US? Amazon won't ship anything to Australia, so I'm assuming this won't work with an Australian credit card or bank account. I couldn't see much relating to International users.
I like that there's no fees involved turnaround time on withdrawing funds to bank accounts isn't too flash though
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I've heard you mention this before, just checked out the website and looks like a good, viable alternative.
Do you know if it's a worldwide thing, or just limited to the US? Amazon won't ship anything to Australia, so I'm assuming this won't work with an Australian credit card or bank account. I couldn't see much relating to International users.
I like that there's no fees involved turnaround time on withdrawing funds to bank accounts isn't too flash though
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Money transfer services are currently only available in the United States
quote from their site...
A shame, it looks a viable competitor to Paypal, and I'm sure many people would use it, given most people have bought from Amazon anyway.
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Money transfer services are currently only available in the United States
quote from their site...
A shame, it looks a viable competitor to Paypal, and I'm sure many people would use it, given most people have bought from Amazon anyway.
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Cheers Pulser, must've had a 'boy look'
If it were International I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. Very much over paying PayPal's ridiculous fees and losing both money and phones. I'm out about $1700 thanks to PayPal.
Hopefully, it's only a matter of time...
how can i unbarred it and use the uk sim card?
any ppl can provide the unbarred the solution?
or other solution that can make my phone receive signal and used back sim card?
i bought this phone at a UK forum and right now it get blocked so i guess it was a stolen phone
so what i can do is only treat is as a htc ipod touch
and is this possible to use oversea sim card?
I am a noob fresh user from htc one x ~
help pls ~thanks
i dont think its barred, it network locked, <--- maybe not
you need to find that person and ask him to ask his network to get it unlocked,
he will need the phone imei no.
teanbread said:
how can i unbarred it and use the uk sim card?
any ppl can provide the unbarred the solution?
or other solution that can make my phone receive signal and used back sim card?
i bought this phone at a UK forum and right now it get blocked so i guess it was a stolen phone
so what i can do is only treat is as a htc ipod touch
and is this possible to use oversea sim card?
I am a noob fresh user from htc one x ~
help pls ~thanks
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If it is barred then you can't use a UK so you'll need to change the IMEI which in itself is illegal in the UK.
Each time you enter a sim it checks for the unique code which is registered when your phone is blocked. Hence why you'll get no signal.
An international sim will work if you are using it abroad.
However as posted by thunder it could be that the phone is network locked so only the original network sim will work you need to find out if it's network locked or actually blocked.
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that seller dun wan asnwer my call anymore
mean i can solve this problem by unlocked the network or using other sim which not from any UK network right?
Use checkmend. Google it. Think it's £1.99 and it will tell you it's status. Wether it's network barred, reported lost or stolen.
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i confirm that the phone is get barred ~
so what i can do right now?
pls save me
Ask the seller for a refund. It could be a stolen phone or insurance scammed. I would first ask the seller and or contact the forum mods which in turn may tell you to go to the police if it's a stolen handset.
There is nothing you can do legally to change imei as this is illegal.
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Sounds like you've been pretty much done in. Based on the condition you're describing it surely classes as having been sold a faulty or misrepresented good, so it's time to do the following (and fast):
If an intermediary like PayPal was used, file a complaint immediately and dispute the transaction
Get in touch with your bank and file for a chargeback; with credit cards you have pretty much guaranteed cover here, for debit cards you should still be covered so long as it's VISA [1][2]
Also, don't forget that Distance Selling Regulations entitle you to an unconditional 7-day window for returning any good you're not happy with so long as it's in original condition (it is not necessary for the packaging to be in good condition or even present at all).
You can of course consider notifying the police too, but that may result in the phone being confiscated and you not getting your money back. If the seller won't respond to your contact now, the chargeback should get his attention and you can go ahead and return the phone if you like — then tell the police anyway once you have your money.
As I see it, you're most likely going to get your money back so long as the purchase wasn't below £100 and thus not eligible for cover (If you seriously thought you were getting a legit One X for this much WTF were you thinking?), done through pure cash, or past the claim time limit — if any of those are the case I guess you can treat this as a hard lesson in how to shop more carefully online.
Sounds like you've been pretty much done in. Based on the condition you're describing it surely classes as having been sold a faulty or misrepresented good, so it's time to do the following (and fast):
If an intermediary like PayPal was used, file a complaint immediately and dispute the transaction
Get in touch with your bank and file for a chargeback; with credit cards you have pretty much guaranteed cover here, for debit cards you should still be covered so long as it's VISA [1][2]
Also, don't forget that Distance Selling Regulations entitle you to an unconditional 7-day window for returning any good you're not happy with so long as it's in original condition (it is not necessary for the packaging to be in good condition or even present at all).
You can of course consider notifying the police too, but that may result in the phone being confiscated and you not getting your money back. If the seller won't respond to your contact now, the chargeback should get his attention and you can go ahead and return the phone if you like — then tell the police anyway once you have your money.
As I see it, you're most likely going to get your money back so long as the purchase wasn't below £100 and thus not eligible for cover (If you seriously thought you were getting a legit One X for this much WTF were you thinking?), done through pure cash, or past the claim time limit — if any of those are the case I guess you can treat this as a hard lesson in how to shop more carefully online.
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DSR won't apply with this situation as it was a private sale according to the OP.
You have to be very careful when doing private sales on forums, same thing happened to me, bought my sister a SGS2 it came with a receipt and everything from a private seller, a year later she went to CPW to trade in and they found out that it was an insurance scammed phone! The odd thing was it wasn't barred as UK sims were still working in them but could have been barred at anytime.
Contact the seller, say if they don't give the only back you will contact the police as effectively this was a fraudulent sale, they probably won't do much at all but hey it'll make the seller aware you won't give up.
But contact the moderators of the forum you purchased this from and let them get involved as well.
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Ah, didn't realise DSR didn't apply to such sales. As a general rule I avoid private selling like the plague because I've heard too many horror stories, unless it's via eBay which offers you somewhat reasonable protection and is why you should insist on going through such a medium unless you literally know the person.
OP: I think you can still go down the chargeback route though, have a look through the links I posted before and figure out if you can make a claim. You never know simply appealing to the seller's goodwill by saying it doesn't work may get you a refund, but I'm guessing not.
Hi i had this happen to me, i swapped my SGS 2 for another phone and the phone i swapped for become barred.. I didnt know what to do but a friend of mine said contact the police, so i did i gave them the persons name and contact number who i got it off and the police managed to get my phone back and it was in London too on its way to India (im from Sheffield). So i would suggest contacting the police worth a shot:good:
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Hi i had this happen to me, i swapped my SGS 2 for another phone and the phone i swapped for become barred.. I didnt know what to do but a friend of mine said contact the police, so i did i gave them the persons name and contact number who i got it off and the police managed to get my phone back and it was in London too on its way to India (im from Sheffield). So i would suggest contacting the police worth a shot:good:
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wow they actually did something about it? and there was a result!?!?!
springy0114 said:
Hi i had this happen to me, i swapped my SGS 2 for another phone and the phone i swapped for become barred.. I didnt know what to do but a friend of mine said contact the police, so i did i gave them the persons name and contact number who i got it off and the police managed to get my phone back and it was in London too on its way to India (im from Sheffield). So i would suggest contacting the police worth a shot:good:
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Good to hear a positive story for once with the feds doing something positive! Quie common for phones to end up back in Asia, big demand for them there as well as all the scams that go on with them!
Has anyone used FastGSM before? What was your experience with them?
I'm trying to SIM unlock a Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505 that's locked to EE/Orange/T-Mobile in the UK. The easy method (detailed here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282683) isn't working for me - it looks like it generally doesn't work for anyone on EE - and I can't get an unlock code directly from EE unless I'm a customer of theirs (which I'm not, hence the need for unlocking!) and have the phone registered to my account. I've ordered an EE PAYG SIM so that I can create an account, register the phone and order an unlock code, but that's going to take up to 10 days after I receive the SIM. So in the meantime I was looking for a faster service.
Enter FastGSM - they have a service on their website here -
http://www.fastgsm.com/en/samsung/galaxy-s4/unlocking/unlock-code
Which claims to unlock Samsung Galaxy S4s instantly using their software over USB (if your baseband version is older than ME1, which mine is) and it's only $14.99. I know, sounds too good to be true so it probably is, but they take Paypal payments and say they have a 100% money back guarantee, so it sounds like I'm covered. I also did a bit of Googling and, yes, found a few complaints about them but way more positive reviews that made the complaints seem par for the course.
Except when I clicked to buy the service, it wouldn't just let me pay $14.99 to buy the software. It said I had to buy 'credit' on their website first. I thought, okay, if that's the way it works, then fine, so I bought $14.99 of credit, which involved creating an account with them. Then I went to buy the software again and, now that I'm signed in with an account, it wants me to checkout using Paypal - there is no option to use the credit. If I go to my account I can see that the credit is there and there's a drop down list of services I can buy with it but the S4 unlocking software is not on the list.
So I contacted customer services, basically saying 'Hey, I'm trying to buy the S4 unlocking software but your website redirected me to buying credit first. How do I use the credit to buy the software?' Their response was a link to the instructions on how to use the software. That's great, except I don't have the software yet. So I contacted them again, restating that I have not yet been able to purchase the software, I only have credit in my account, how do I use that to buy the software? And they replied saying 'Yes, you have credit in your account. Here are the software instructions again.'
So this is quite infuriating because now we're going around in circles. I'm not sure whether there's a language barrier here (I think they're based in China?) or they're deliberately misunderstanding me but I'm not sure how many ways I can say 'Your website has taken my money but won't let me have the thing I'm trying to buy.'
Does anyone know how to use their website to buy this service using credit? Otherwise I'm going to have to seek a refund and get an unlock code the long way round, through EE.
UPDATE - I tried logging out of my account and going back to the website as though I was a new customer. When you click 'Buy' for this software option, without logging in, it takes you to a page that says 'Your shopping cart is empty. Why don't you buy some credits?', which is why I thought I had to buy credits before I bought the service. However, if you create an account first, then go to buy the software, it does allow you to purchase directly using Paypal, which is what I wanted to do in the first place. So it seems like there's a bit of a glitch/oversight on their website, which is forgivable, but I'm now hesitant to buy the software because then I'll have effectively paid for it twice and I'd have to fight for a refund for the credit I purchased with their terrible customer service!
Okay, so after 3 days and 3-4 e-mails to customer service, this is what I've ascertained -
You don't need to buy the software, despite how it looks on the website. The software is freely available on the website, what you're paying for is the unlock code. But you don't buy that directly through the website either. What happens is you sign up for an account on the website, load it with credit, and when you use the software you need to sign in with your account and it generates an unlock code for you (deducting the cost from your credit) and unlocks the phone connected by USB.
I can confirm that it does work and I now have a Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505, previously locked to EE, unlocked and running on 3.
I just can't believe how unclear the website is about how this works, or that it took so many e-mails to customer service for clarification (and even then it wasn't that clear - I had to just go ahead and try the software before I realised how it worked). It's also worth noting that both the Samsung USB drivers and software were considered malicious by my browser (Chrome, but I also tried IE and it said the same thing). That's probably because they're .exe files, rather than being contained in .zip files, but my anti virus also flagged them, which they say is a false positive (let's hope so!).
So while I'm not sure I would recommend the service, it does work.