Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
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I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
Hey guys so my GF just got a new warrenty Slide and it came with 2.2.1 and some goodies like wifi talk and the new radios. I havnt really been keeping up with the Slide so I didnt even know that there was an update. Any way my friend wants the update on his Slide and its unrooted on 2.1 or w/e it was released with. Ive searched a bit but cant find the ota for 2.2.1 .. does anyone have the official update file so he can update his? NO ROOT.. Thanks
the website is right here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-mytouch-3g-slide/downloads#320
make sure he/she reads all the things before he does anything. also, warn him/her the official 2.2.1 is more sluggish than 2.1.1 even though it has some new features, make sure he/she's prepared for that. if he/she ever decide to root with official 2.2.1, it will be more difficult and has less customization.
best of luck!
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Hey guys so my GF just got a new warrenty Slide and it came with 2.2.1 and some goodies like wifi talk and the new radios. I havnt really been keeping up with the Slide so I didnt even know that there was an update. Any way my friend wants the update on his Slide and its unrooted on 2.1 or w/e it was released with. Ive searched a bit but cant find the ota for 2.2.1 .. does anyone have the official update file so he can update his? NO ROOT.. Thanks
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You can look for espresso_signed_040511_005057.zip, which is a ROOTED version of the official Froyo release, it has HBOOT 0.52 (so can still be S-OFF'ed) and can also use data2ext or app2ext features (I use DarkTremor's a2sd).
I purchased a used Evo with 2.2 still on it. I've been reading and I've owned an Evo more than a year ago, but I'm not sure how to root. Should I update to Gb first and then root since we have root for that? I ask because I wanna ensure I have the latest radio and such. Plus all the guides for rooting 2.2 look old and outdated (defunct). Thanks
keep it
i have 2.2 rooted works fine.
why not just keep it?
haven't read any advantages to 2.3 , maybe i missed them.
trsix said:
i have 2.2 rooted works fine.
why not just keep it?
haven't read any advantages to 2.3 , maybe i missed them.
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Mainly was concerned with the phone and radio updates. And GB is that much better. I installed the full Sprint lovers which updated everything and now I'm testing roms.
Not rooted yet, but my phone is 2.3.4. I read on the rooting guide that it only works if your on 2.3.3 How would I do this?
Look in the dev section attn1 posted how to downgrade from 234 to 233. It works I used that guide to root my gfs phone last week
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Not rooted yet, but my phone is 2.3.4. I read on the rooting guide that it only works if your on 2.3.3 How would I do this?
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And a follow-up question: What are the significant differences between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4? Is it simply that 2.3.4 closes the exploit that allows S-off and root? Or are there other feature, stability or performance differences?
I got my Dinc2 Tuesday and never had the opportunity to test 2.3.3 before the phone upgraded itself. I'm not new to rooting/flashing, but am coming from an Eris where 1-click rooting meant the discussions were more focused on ROMs rather than on being locked out of root.
Thx,
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And a follow-up question: What are the significant differences between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4? Is it simply that 2.3.4 closes the exploit that allows S-off and root? Or are there other feature, stability or performance differences?
I got my Dinc2 Tuesday and never had the opportunity to test 2.3.3 before the phone upgraded itself. I'm not new to rooting/flashing, but am coming from an Eris where 1-click rooting meant the discussions were more focused on ROMs rather than on being locked out of root.
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I did not notice anything different between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4. I think the major changes were in how the phone communication with VZW network.
Hello,
Had a quick question for anyone willing to give me a bit of feedback. I've been thinking about rooting my Xperia Play. I'm hesitant only because I don't want to get it if the functionality of ICS will be much of an improvement, if at all.
Should I stay with Gingerbread and wait to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich or should I root now and wait till the root for ICS is available in the future? I've been reading the forums here and found plenty of people trying the Beta ICS and it seems like it depends on the person whether they are fond of it or not. I'm certainly not wanting to Beta test ICS.
I'm looking for a kick in the right direction. I mean, I know I can unroot the phone if necessary I've seen forums about such, but it seems like an ordeal to root and then just to undo the root and I can tend to be a bit lazy. So should I stick with plain Gingerbread, wait to upgrade to ICS, or go and root my phone for the boost now in terms of power?
I use my Xperia Play as a phone, emulator, music player, and for general apps. Basically, just general recreation and it can certainly feel slow when just pulling up my texts on my phone. Let me know what you think is best.
Why would you need to unroot to upgrade to ICS? Just root now and upgrade when ICS is stable
An ordeal to root? The rooting methods are 1-click, it couldn't be easier
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Why would you need to unroot to upgrade to ICS? Just root now and upgrade when ICS is stable
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Exactly bro! Root on gb will beunrooted if you upgrade to ics. I thnk you mess up infos about rooting and unlocking bootloader.
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Asking too many questions. If you wanted it, you would know you want it and you would have done it by now.
Stick with what you have. Wait for the official update. It'll be along soon I am sure
d31b0y said:
Asking too many questions. If you wanted it, you would know you want it and you would have done it by now.
Stick with what you have. Wait for the official update. It'll be along soon I am sure
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If you use DoomKernel with either the Official Sony Beta ICS or KA12 ICS beta roms you have Root.... if you flash KA12 it auto roots on install.....just FYI
Michealtbh said:
An ordeal to root? The rooting methods are 1-click, it couldn't be easier
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Don't think one click rooting methods are available if he is on the latest firmware..
correct me, if im wrong..
Gonna comment to the OP's question about the speed difference as someone who has now tried (1) the standard GB rom (on verizon, so 2.3.3), (2) a super-fast GB replacement (Cola), (3) the Sony stock ICS beta, as well as (4) a custom rom based on the ICS beta....
IMO aside from a couple of very specific cases (email on GB releases really slowing the phone down when connected to Exchange ActiveSync, for one), no version of ICS will ever be able to match the speed of GB on this phone. I'm sure that some custom ICS roms will be great, but a custom GB rom built for speed will still be able to win in the end.
I could not help but upgrade to ICS lol, My boot loader has been unlocked since the day I bought it but when the Beta was released and they made progress on it (WiFi, and stuff) I just could not help myself , Once you remove bloatware its really stable and smooth.