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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
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I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
first time poster here , ive been reading alot of different info about rooting for the evo as i am new to all of this. I just got my evo this past dec and its not rooted(yet) ,i plan on puting on myn's warm rom but one FAQ/post that particularly bothers me is a quote from the following found at android central
Hardware Version 004:
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Just a tip for after this process is complete, if you have Hardware Version 004 you need to run a ROM built off of the latest Sprint kernel (as of now, I'm sure aosp builds like Cyanogen will update after the source is released) for the camera to work. These hardware versions have new camera hardware. The kernel that works is from the Sprint/HTC 3.7 software release.
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i plan on rooting via this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
so my question is which rom/roms are compatible?(noticed that myn's is based off of 3.30 so im not sure if i can even use that) or is this info out of date or am i missing some information? , i just want all of my evo's features working, suggestions on roms would be appreciated
my evo specs are
Hardware Version: 0004
stock htc kernal
3.70 OTA
HBoot: 2.10
using 64bit win 7 also.
thanks in advance =)
this info you have quoted is out of date. htc (happily) released the #15 kernel source, which is fully compatible accross the board. myn took a long vacation, so if i were you, i would either flash one of the nightly roms he is making (despite the name, not every night though. maybe 3 times a week at most. my phone is getting sore from lack of flashing) or just wait for the stable release.
btw, welcome to the forums, and hopefully to root. i know a few people that would be happy to help you if you are stuck or having problems rooting. i am one of them. my info is all in my sig. just contact me and i will be happy to help you. even if you want a hand-holding walkthrough (but you seem more independent than that. you read!!!)
thanks for the reply dk. what about the #17 kernel's source?, im leaning torwards flashing a more stable rom, any suggestions for a solid one?, and thanks if i run into any problems i will message you
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thanks for the reply dk. what about the #17 kernel's source?, im leaning torwards flashing a more stable rom, any suggestions for a solid one?, and thanks if i run into any problems i will message you
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The kernel source for 17 hasn't been released yet that I have heard. For a stable rom I would recommend Myn's TwoPointTwo. The public release of RLS 5 is out tomorrow which will have all of the updated stuff. I might be a little biased as I am a user of Myn's rom, but I could also recommend Fresh to you as well. It all really depends on what you want out of a rom. If you like Htc Sense, then stick to either one of those and I would say Myn's. If you don't like Sense, go with Cyanogen.
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first time poster here , ive been reading alot of different info about rooting for the evo as i am new to all of this. I just got my evo this past dec and its not rooted(yet) ,i plan on puting on myn's warm rom but one FAQ/post that particularly bothers me is a quote from the following found at android central
i plan on rooting via this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
so my question is which rom/roms are compatible?(noticed that myn's is based off of 3.30 so im not sure if i can even use that) or is this info out of date or am i missing some information? , i just want all of my evo's features working, suggestions on roms would be appreciated
my evo specs are
Hardware Version: 0004
stock htc kernal
3.70 OTA
HBoot: 2.10
using 64bit win 7 also.
thanks in advance =)
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If you're trying to flash an out of date rom, go get the #15 kernel from the dev section of this forum. Then all you need is to downgrade your PRI to 1.77 and you'll be able to flash any rom you want.
Enjoy!
I have hardware 0004.
Flash the rom first,
flash the #15 kernel (whichever one you want/like)
flash the PRI downgrade last (you can also find all PRI/radio/etc versions in the dev section)
nandroid first
wipe cache/dalvik between each flash.
Myn's rls5 (which will be released 1/7/11 for everyone), mikfroyo and the stock rom are all compatible with the hardware WITHOUT the PRI downgrade. The #15 kernel is recommended anyway, you might as well get it now.
what are the differences between #15 and #17?
leaning torwards myn's. not even rooted yet haha
i will see what happens in the next few days and report back(in the middle of moving), thanks for the info so far
I would also suggest virus roms. He makes amazing roms. As long as you have kernel 15, you should be able to flash any rom , I believe (anyone feel free to correct me). I dunno, I guess, I try to keep up with the new releases, I don't have hw 0004, but I know others who do who also run virus roms (I suppose it's just a matter of the kernel). Listen to others more than me
But welcome.
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Hi there,
I have too a 004 Evo with the 2.10 hboot, and I rooted it with that method u posted and am currently running Myn's RLS4 with the latests radio, nv and wimax BUT with the pri at 1.77 and using netarchy's 4.2.3 kernel without any problems whatsoever, so from my pov you're good to go...
And fwiw, I am using latest RA's....
Just have one more question,do I need to flash updated radios our can I just leave them?
I'm not really sure what the benefits of updated ones are..I've read some scary stuff after people flashing radios, in combo at least
ok, first of all, kernel 15 is newer than 17 for some wird reaosn. 15 was just released on the 3.70 ota. sidology, the updated radios are just the newest released. all root methods besides unrevoked downgrade you waaaay back (to the first software release i think?) in order to exploit the phone. this is why you need to upgrade your radios back. myns 5 is out now, so you have no worries anymore. just root, and flash!
i may not be available to helping you root (i need to train some rats this week homework sucks) but i am free tomorrow and most weekends and will do all i can.
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ok, first of all, kernel 15 is newer than 17 for some wird reaosn. 15 was just released on the 3.70 ota. sidology, the updated radios are just the newest released. all root methods besides unrevoked downgrade you waaaay back (to the first software release i think?) in order to exploit the phone. this is why you need to upgrade your radios back. myns 5 is out now, so you have no worries anymore. just root, and flash!
i may not be available to helping you root (i need to train some rats this week homework sucks) but i am free tomorrow and most weekends and will do all i can.
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thanks for clearing that up =S, i thought 17 was newer lol. i havent rooted just yet, trying to gather info as i go , i still plan on using the 2.02/2.10 guide in my OP and just re flashing sprint lovers with the radio combo since im not sure if the one in the guide uses that one, then flash to myn's L5
just a side thought: i dont see many posts about people using unrevoked 3.3 much, if it doesnt downgrade radios shouldnt it be easier?
EDIT: just read that unrevoked is an easier method at bricking some peoples phones ,so nevermind lol
anyway thanks alot for the replys and info, its very much appreciated
unrevoked can sometimes brick people, or just corrupt your radio. if you dont mind wiping, then root manually. much safer, and you get to figure out how to actually so some stuff.
Hi
I know that this was discussed many times.
but could you tell me what is the easiest/safer way to root/S-off htc desire z?
All posts I can find are quite old.
Thanks
Wiki method is considered by most here to be the safest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
thank you.
wiki probly safest....i dont got a cpu so i did gfree...took me bout hour (i know im slow but im brickless)
pimped out g2
I'm not rooted. If I have upgraded to 2.3.3 can I still use the gfree v0.5 method?
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I'm not rooted. If I have upgraded to 2.3.3 can I still use the gfree v0.5 method?
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If you want to be rooted, I'd stay away from any official updates. No official updates have been rootable for some time. And I think people that have updated to the official Gingerbread T-Mobile G2 ROM are having trouble even downgrading in order to root. There is a pre-rooted (but otherwise "official") G2 T-Mobile Gingerbread ROM posted in the Development section. If you want the Sense GB ROM, you should wait until a pre-rooted version is posted here. You would still need to root and gfree in order to flash either of those.
Thanks RedPoint. Going to hold off for now. I love the official gingerbread. I just want screenshot and over-clocking capability.
Hey guys so my GF just got a new warrenty Slide and it came with 2.2.1 and some goodies like wifi talk and the new radios. I havnt really been keeping up with the Slide so I didnt even know that there was an update. Any way my friend wants the update on his Slide and its unrooted on 2.1 or w/e it was released with. Ive searched a bit but cant find the ota for 2.2.1 .. does anyone have the official update file so he can update his? NO ROOT.. Thanks
the website is right here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-mytouch-3g-slide/downloads#320
make sure he/she reads all the things before he does anything. also, warn him/her the official 2.2.1 is more sluggish than 2.1.1 even though it has some new features, make sure he/she's prepared for that. if he/she ever decide to root with official 2.2.1, it will be more difficult and has less customization.
best of luck!
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Hey guys so my GF just got a new warrenty Slide and it came with 2.2.1 and some goodies like wifi talk and the new radios. I havnt really been keeping up with the Slide so I didnt even know that there was an update. Any way my friend wants the update on his Slide and its unrooted on 2.1 or w/e it was released with. Ive searched a bit but cant find the ota for 2.2.1 .. does anyone have the official update file so he can update his? NO ROOT.. Thanks
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You can look for espresso_signed_040511_005057.zip, which is a ROOTED version of the official Froyo release, it has HBOOT 0.52 (so can still be S-OFF'ed) and can also use data2ext or app2ext features (I use DarkTremor's a2sd).
Ok I just joined sprint and picked up three Evo 4G's for the family, couldn't resist the low price of the phones and service. I was using a Vibrant on T-Mobile but with all the ATT crap being flung around and the service seemed to be experiencing a lot of outages and super slowdowns on data I decided to go ahead and jump.
So with all that I am an experienced Android person and my Q's are for this phone's abilities and not general Android stuff.
Ok I am wondering if 2.3.4 will be released for the Evo?
I am also wondering if the g-talk with video can be installed on the current shipping rom?
Also as I read how to root it and install a new rom, I am wondering if there are any caveats that do not show up in the guides that would be nice to know ahead of time before rooting and installing a new rom/s. I also did a search, but not much came up, but I did find a couple roms that seem to be on a leaked 2.3.4 base?? not sure if that is right since I couldn't find anything about a leaked 2.3.4 anywhere, but I didn't dig to deep.
Thanks for any help with the 2.3.4 and video chat Q.
No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.
majorkillin said:
No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.
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Right on point.
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majorkillin said:
No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.
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Wow no root on the new 2.3.3?!?! crap, but I imagine it wont take to long to get it hacked.
Is there a way to load up a cooked rom even without root? I imagine not. I ask because it was done way different on the Vibrant.