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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
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I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
buying a desire soon and doing some researching and since the official froyo update is out, should i root or just update it?
Root and then install Neophyte 1.6. It's a custom rom that gives you a good stockish version of Froyo plus all the fixes that are needed making better than OTA Froyo.
OTA Froyo is buggy and should not have been released imo.
root but only if you understand it or if will be of any benefit to you, as if your phone breaks, the warrenty will be void!!!
I suggest buying it, keeping it stock - as htc will update it with fixes, and then seeing if root is really needed for you??? hope this helps, and btw, there are polls to see what roms peopls use on here so dont take one persons opinion in which rom to use, ie i used open desire v1.0c and i prefer that but everyone has different opinions.
I have rooted and updated to froyo but only because I am an eager beaver lol If I was you and not on Virgin Mobile then I would just wait for the OTA update and not bother with root tbh
@aunger90 do you have a link to this poll?
Hi all,
I got my Desire HD today and it's Arabic With Froyo 2.2 and want to Updating it to Arabic Gingerbread Official ROM
I want to update, Root and every other necessary thing to the device to avoid Downgrading or any other pains that may appear in near future
Want to stay in official ROM for while to test device and get familiar with it before trying other custom ROM's
Thanks a lot and waiting your help
check your phone settings...
-----about phone.....software updates ......check now.......
will be updated to official gingerbread........
but rooting will be a problem if you are updating ur build number to 2.42 or above...
you cant root now......you must have to wait.........
if its updating to 2.36 or 2.37...you can root it................
it depends on ur luck[I think]
[rooting without downgrading is almost impossible]...
ALL THE BEST............
Already checked for over the air update and found it about 110 MB
Case 1 : [Can i root my device now] and then update it either by Over The Air or RUU and keep root or it will be unrooted again ?!
Case 2 : I will update my device now and i don't know what versions it will be so will i be able to root it after update or will need hard work ?
sorry for those noob question but i am all new to this and don't want to break my device
If you root in froyo mood ....you cant go for official update......
for that you must unroot it and again update.......
2...If you update as I said it will depend on ur luck which version you are getting..
If you are updating to gingerbread 2.3.3
your build no. may updated to 2.37, 2.42, [I also saw one person posted in forum about 2.43]
If 2.37 comes ....no problem you can root it.......
If higher than that comes ...you must have to wait........[I dont know how longer]
In my opinion you must root it now.....because Official gingerbread isnt that good...
search the forum...you can see many compliants...after updating it....
I am fed up with too much of complaints and I am waiting to know how to root 2.42.........
rohithksaj said:
If you root in froyo mood ....you cant go for official update......
for that you must unroot it and again update.......
2...If you update as I said it will depend on ur luck which version you are getting..
If you are updating to gingerbread 2.3.3
your build no. may updated to 2.37, 2.42, [I also saw one person posted in forum about 2.43]
If 2.37 comes ....no problem you can root it.......
If higher than that comes ...you must have to wait........[I dont know how longer]
In my opinion you must root it now.....because Official gingerbread isnt that good...
search the forum...you can see many compliants...after updating it....
I am fed up with too much of complaints and I am waiting to know how to root 2.42.........
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So do you recommend staying in Froyo in official version and if i want Gingerbread so i have to use costume roms
i think that there is some changes in sense between Froyo and GB or i am wrong ? what the GB changelog for Desire HD cuz if it don't worth upgrading i will not do it and will stay with Froyo
So do you recommend staying in Froyo in official version and if i want Gingerbread so i have to use costume roms
yup....you can use custom roms if you want gingerbread after rooting....
I am recommending you to root in froyo than updating.........
I am one of the person who is regretting for updating .....
And I dont think there's difference bw the senses of gb and froyo....
[ if you wanna root...you MUST DOWNGRADE....whether its GB[upto 2.37] or froyo]......
What about rooting then update to 2.3.3 with pre-rooted room or GB update doesn't worth at all ??
i like the new sense 2.1 and want to get it but don't know what to do
also the device is new and with warranty so i don't wont to void it for one or two months cuz if there any problem with it i can send it back
if i updated now to official 2.3.3 ROM either by RUU or OTA , can i downgrade and go for root and custom ROM or i will be stuck at 2.3.3 with no root ?!
bro..listen carefully...I already posted for your question.....
its simple.....
If you update your fone to 2.3.3 via official update....
ur build no may get updated to 2.36 , 2.37 or above[in ur phone settings.about phone.. you can see ur build no......]
it depends on ur luck which version you will get.....[i believe]
currently therez ways to downgrade 2.36,2.37.......[build no]
if your fone get updated abve 2.37
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downgrading above 2.37 isnt found yet.......so you cant downgrade it....that means you cant root it.......
I have a plan for you.........you just go for official update....
get ur 2.3.3 and sense 2.1
feel ur 2.3.3.....and know the difference bt 2.2 and 2.3.3
and use it for 2 or 3 months.....when you start thinking that you wanna root through downgrading just visit the forums......by that time our senior members will find the way to downgrade 2.42 and all...........
[caution-update at your risk....wat I have said about finding the way to downgrade 2.42 are estimations.....I am not sure about they will find within 2 or 3 months.]
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I have a plan for you.........you just go for official update....
get ur 2.3.3 and sense 2.1
feel ur 2.3.3.....and know the difference bt 2.2 and 2.3.3
and use it for 2 or 3 months.....when you start thinking that you wanna root through downgrading just visit the forums......by that time our senior members will find the way to downgrade 2.42 and all...........
[caution-update at your risk....wat I have said about finding the way to downgrade 2.42 are estimations.....I am not sure about they will find within 2 or 3 months.]
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That is what i am planning to do but just want to do it right so in future when i need to root or downgrade every thing will be smooth ,, do you recommend doing S-Off or any other stuff before updating as it possible now and will not be possible after updating ?!
noob question what is meant by 2.37, 2.42 where is that numbers ?? is it the build number or what cuz i can't find it
already downloaded this RUU is this the latest version and do you recommend update with it or go with OTA update ?
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_ARA_2.42.415.1_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_193079_signed
which version that i can downgrade and is there a shipped rom for that or no ??
Thanks a lot for your help and your time
oh bro..am getting confused............
k..here is the deal......its simple....
dont think about S-off or sumthing b4 you update.....to S OFF ur set you must downgrade it now........you can do that stuffs when you think about rooting....
2.I prefer you go for official update.....
3.go to settings--about fone----software information---build no.....
if the picture given on d top is your DHDs settings then ur build no is 1.83.415
Nothing to do bro...just go for official update.........nothing to worry about....nothing to do b4 official update to make rooting easy.......Enjoy it until you want to root......
when you want to root check the forums......you will definitely find the way.....
[now think about only official update.................PLS DONT THINK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE]
After updating officially......post ur new build no..here...I will tell you what to do........
ALL THE BEST>>>>
first i don't know how to thank you for your patience and your time
so now you recommend me to update to gingerbread and start using the device normal use
just want to know what is the best way to update the device OTA or using one of RUU files
final question about rooting and S-Off , is it possible to root and S-Off Desire HD with Gingerbread whatever the method is or updating it will make the device stuck and we have to wait for solution ?!
you go for official update bro..........that i recommend you to use gingerbread as you dont want to root ur fone now and create some problem....
no......you can root ur fone even after updating to gingerbread.....
just check out the forum.......
you arent rooting it quickly after updating na ????
if ur build no..gets updated to higher than 2.37.......
you must wait for rooting......thats it....nothing else.........
All the best with ur DHD GB......
Thanks a lot for your help and I will update the device today isA
I will postpon rooting for month or two for warranty reasons cuz the device is new and don't want to void my warranty
now i already installed some apps and want to format so shall i reformat it from BootLoader using Factory Reset
also updating it over WiFi or using the RUU file RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HTC_ARA_2.42.415.1_Radio_12. 54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_193079_signed
update via Wifi......
Updated it via WiFi and it's so good
liked the new sense with quick setting and application icon now is better than the old arrow and menu section all / frequent / downloaded is VERY GOOD
Version now is
Baseband Version
12. 54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2
Kernal Version
2.6.35.10-g997575f
Build Number
2.42.415.1 CL68905
Software Number
2.42.415.1
....great...........Enjoy your GB.........
What's the best Maps/GPS application to use and have Egypt Maps cuz Google Maps still don't have offline mode maps like Nokia Ovi Maps and every time you run you must be connected to Internet
Or if there any other way to save maps for Google Maps to use it without internet will be good
you must have a app called locations.........[i havent tried yet]
there ......if you want to see the map of particular location.....you must download it.....[i had 327mb to download.....and I didnt]
so that does means....you can see the map...even if you are offline.......
rohithksaj said:
you must have a app called locations.........[i havent tried yet]
there ......if you want to see the map of particular location.....you must download it.....[i had 327mb to download.....and I didnt]
so that does means....you can see the map...even if you are offline.......
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I really don't know how to thank you ... trying it now
Maps appear only in location not in Maps ?!
Ok I just joined sprint and picked up three Evo 4G's for the family, couldn't resist the low price of the phones and service. I was using a Vibrant on T-Mobile but with all the ATT crap being flung around and the service seemed to be experiencing a lot of outages and super slowdowns on data I decided to go ahead and jump.
So with all that I am an experienced Android person and my Q's are for this phone's abilities and not general Android stuff.
Ok I am wondering if 2.3.4 will be released for the Evo?
I am also wondering if the g-talk with video can be installed on the current shipping rom?
Also as I read how to root it and install a new rom, I am wondering if there are any caveats that do not show up in the guides that would be nice to know ahead of time before rooting and installing a new rom/s. I also did a search, but not much came up, but I did find a couple roms that seem to be on a leaked 2.3.4 base?? not sure if that is right since I couldn't find anything about a leaked 2.3.4 anywhere, but I didn't dig to deep.
Thanks for any help with the 2.3.4 and video chat Q.
No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.
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No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.
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Right on point.
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majorkillin said:
No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.
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Wow no root on the new 2.3.3?!?! crap, but I imagine it wont take to long to get it hacked.
Is there a way to load up a cooked rom even without root? I imagine not. I ask because it was done way different on the Vibrant.
so i was reading from http://blogs.computerworld.com/18077/android_23_upgrade_list and found that the desire 2.3 was released today @ http://developer.htc.com/ ! although i am excited about it, i am also nervous to try it. as much as i would like the update i dont want to lose sms and mms features.. i wasnt sure if this was already known and also if i am going to be yelled at in case there is another thread already, if so i apologize. hopefully this brought some good news to some people?
there's loads of threads on this i'm afraid.
i dont think many people will lose sms still - its just a warning, as i think in some cases the settings aren't in the rom for all carriers
i had a feeling, im kind of weary on updating for that reason though. ive tried permrooting, but i cant find a solid way, ive got a visionary temproot, but id like to be able to flash to another rom that has gingerbread.
dude, did you even took a second to look at the forums ?
many threads on the official 2.3 already
hell it has even been rooted etc.
just a quick glance, so no not really lol. but on the update link it says that this isnt supported in North America...if i try to update, what do you think will happen?
When are we going to get Official GB RUU for Desire????
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just a quick glance, so no not really lol. but on the update link it says that this isnt supported in North America...if i try to update, what do you think will happen?
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worst case is that the radio might not work imo
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When are we going to get Official GB RUU for Desire????
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This is the 2.3 we will get for the Desire, and for me it works just fine. Better in every respect than 2.2 on my phone.
feedback from someone here that installed it:
All installed, feels mildly quicker but that’s about it and some of the buttons are a little more stylish
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Lots of people in Taiwan already install the new 2.3. Best thing about this build is the carrier specifiec APPs are removed. A very clean ROM for people need more memory.
I'll wait until this has been throughly hacked. I need Data2EXT to live.
I take it you all realise it can't even be rooted yet? They updated the HBOOT so now rooting method, well as of yet. If you really want it, there are some that available that are pretty much that ROM with it rooted over in development..