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Bada on Galaxy S

A lot of people are asking about Android on the Wave but I was just thinking one of the best ways to promote bada would be to port it to the Galaxy S or even other phones. I am sure there has to be at least a few Galaxy S owners that would be interested in at least playing with bada. This would vastly increase the potential market size for developers and provide more incentive to develop for bada. So what do you guys think, is it doable or even worthwhile? And if anyone at Samsung by chance is reading this, perhaps you could write an official alternate bada firmware for your Galaxy S customers. The way I see it, it could only help in promoting bada.

This is a great idea. We should definitely do so. This procedure will promote our system

I agree but is Bada out yet? I thought it was still under development. Im sure samsung will want to release versions of it out made completely by them before they release the source for open dev

iffrett said:
I agree but is Bada out yet? I thought it was still under development. Im sure samsung will want to release versions of it out made completely by them before they release the source for open dev
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hmmm
LOL!!!

Firstly we are on version 1.2 (the 1.x indicates stable) secondly its not open source. Where do you people come up with that stuff??

lol Bada on Galaxy S that will never happened

It might not happen, but I do believe it is possible. Galaxy S and Wave apparently share much of the same hardware so I wouldn't think it would be impossible to port. In my mind, I would think it would be easier to port Bada to the Galaxy S than it would to port Android to the Wave. All it would take is someone with the knowledge and motivation. But then again, I'm not a hacker or programmer so I will readily admit if I am wrong about this. Pipe dream or not, I think it would be a huge step forward if it happened.

Kill the topic guys, any developer will give you countless reasons why this is a pointless exercise.

sabianadmin said:
Kill the topic guys, any developer will give you countless reasons why this is a pointless exercise.
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Here it is, that wonderful spirit of adventurousness that makes life worth living. Why don't you explain to us some of the reasons that this is a pointless endeavor? I am not a programmer so please enlighten me. I like the idea of Bada being ported to the Galaxy S phones.

elgo said:
Here it is, that wonderful spirit of adventurousness that makes life worth living. Why don't you explain to us some of the reasons that this is a pointless endeavor? I am not a programmer so please enlighten me. I like the idea of Bada being ported to the Galaxy S phones.
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Go off and look the other topics i have started. then come back and say that too me. This pointless because we are having a damn near impossible time porting Android over to the Wave even though the entire Galaxy line which has similar (but in many ways different) hardware. And thats with Android which has its source code readily available to any developer. Bada is for all intents and purpose, Closed source.

Samsung releasing the source code would do a hell of a lot for bada. So what if the code is not perfect, there would be a lot of new eyes looking at the code, suggestions and improvements will surely come...
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You know what..After Bada 2.0.1 is officially out and it supports s8500, I think there maybe a port which will take place to get bada on android! It is so cool man! But, at the same time, I see the Android 2.3.4 has many features and animations better that the bada 2.0.1. It is gonna be a tough choice on what you want! I own both bada as well as Android smartphones...So i would love to have bada on my wave and android on my Galaxy SL! I can clearly see the difference and the competition

They won't release bada sourcecode, never.
Releasing sourcecode means losing control over software.
Also, they are using proprietary libs of many companies, for example QuRam, releasing source would be very long and expensive process.
Its possible to patch bada 2.0 kernel without sourcecode to get it working on SGS. But I don't believe anyone will do it.
Even if we find out bada 2 is nice OS, almost nobody will want it instead of Android - no devs (nerds?) ready to spent hundreds hours of their time just because of being kind.

Me and some others tried it because i wanted to help get android onto your devices. It is next to impossible at this point. I hope newer releases will become a little better
I would not say its out of question. But then again we always want and strive to get what others say is impossible. Its what built XDA after all
So yes i still look into it..and try and try. Maybe one day

Rebellos said:
They won't release bada sourcecode, never.
Releasing sourcecode means losing control over software.
Also, they are using proprietary libs of many companies, for example QuRam, releasing source would be very long and expensive process.
Its possible to patch bada 2.0 kernel without sourcecode to get it working on SGS. But I don't believe anyone will do it.
Even if we find out bada 2 is nice OS, almost nobody will want it instead of Android - no devs (nerds?) ready to spent hundreds hours of their time just because of being kind.
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i agree with you. at this stage i dont see any advantage of porting bada to galaxy. and yes there are two or three persons willing to have bada on it, but its not enough. maybe in future....

ok maybe, i would like see every os on every device, maybe this is a fact that everything makes sense, if everyone can choose everything it would be better, than i buy a device pay os license and if i dont like it use another. would be realy nice.

All things is't possible in development world

[Q] Dual boot bada 1.2 and 2.0 - would it be possible?

Since people already succeeded in dual booting bada vs android...
would it be possible to get a dual boot of bada 1.2 vs bada 2.0 ?
Could it be done without much development hassle, with the knowledge already retained from the android saga?
This may sound strange, but this way we could keep some of the "functionalities" that only work in some bada 1.2 firmwares

At this time only rumours from users without evidence...
Both at same time, bada 1.2 + bada 2.0 near impossible...
But rumours exists there are somewhere "unknown" users ... working on Dual Boot bada 2.0 + Android... as FOTA is gone...
Maybe if this is successfully happen, because now really Bootloader tweaking is necessary... then other dream project MAYBE possible.
But in German language...
"Von nichts kommt nichts..."
Quick and dirty Translation:
From nothing, can nothing be grown...
Something like, if we only dreaming + waiting and nothing nor nobody do something, then result = ZERO = 0
Best Regards

@ dualboot Bada 1.2 + Bada 2.0:
Of course it is possible, with much effort, work and patience, but...
Who the heck would need it?!
adfree said:
At this time only rumours from users without evidence...
Both at same time, bada 1.2 + bada 2.0 near impossible...
But rumours exists there are somewhere "unknown" users ... working on Dual Boot bada 2.0 + Android... as FOTA is gone...
Maybe if this is successfully happen, because now really Bootloader tweaking is necessary... then other dream project MAYBE possible.
But in German language...
"Von nichts kommt nichts..."
Quick and dirty Translation:
From nothing, can nothing be grown...
Something like, if we only dreaming + waiting and nothing nor nobody do something, then result = ZERO = 0
Best Regards
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Most likely dualboot of Bada 2.0 + Android is still possible through FOTA, if not - through modified BL. But custom flashing anything to oneNAND comes up with big risk of brick - I called flash_write 4MB on 0x1D00_0000 area of my oneNAND from FOTA and BL3 has been damaged in result of that, so mechanism of flashing oneNAND and is still unknown, though we've got almost whole sourcecode of all functions, but noone has got enough patience to dive into it and write some specification.

adfree said:
..... But rumours exists there are somewhere "unknown" users ... working on Dual Boot bada 2.0 + Android... as FOTA is gone...
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Not true
FOTA is just not seperate from Bada 2.0.1 now Its integrated into the FW now and not seperated like previously.
Having both runnig as a Dual boot is impossible and a lie. The Bootloader from Bada is NOT compatable with the Android and visa versa.
Having both Bada 1.2 and 2.0 running on Dual boot will also not be possible because you cant have 2 instances of the bootloader as that initialises the firmware and that is Hash checked.
They are in the process to decrypt it as far as I understand but the hash dont match to boot with and if its wrong you will brick your phone... so its a 1 shot deal to test it

toxicdust said:
Not true
FOTA is just not seperate from Bada 2.0.1 now Its integrated into the FW now and not seperated like previously.
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Hi!
I don't want to offend you, but do you have proof of this or is this just a hunch? As there's no final 2.0 yet we can't be sure that it won't have FOTA. There were previous Bada versions without FOTA... Who wants to upgrade beta OS over the air anyway (except for Apple )

ok folks, thanks for answers
i only asked cause i didnt want to lose the spoofing ability for some apps... since that seems not be able now in bada 2.0
ill wait for final 2.0 to see if the benfits it brings make up for this disadvantage

anghelyi said:
Hi!
I don't want to offend you, but do you have proof of this or is this just a hunch? As there's no final 2.0 yet we can't be sure that it won't have FOTA. There were previous Bada versions without FOTA... Who wants to upgrade beta OS over the air anyway (except for Apple )
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Look at the Attachments
All it goes is say there is no newer firmware available for your phone.
Now as you know there is no FOTA file flashed with the Bada 2.0.1 KH1 version im running.
So where are those options coming from and why check the server for a new version and report back there is none ...

It doesn't prove that FOTA file cannot be flashed separately. I'm nearly sure it can be done. It need only 1 or 2 modifications.

Time to leave Spoofing then
Samsung apps already has a lot of premium 3d games going on sale for just a bit over a dollar.
I already bought some so when i get the official bada 2 release ill have my favorite games.
They even have this new promo from Gameloft that games worth that used to be $4 or $5 usd will be sold for $1.25 going on right now till next month.
I got splinter cell an almost 500mb download for only $1.25.
Ill admit i did use spoofing on bada 1.2 because many of the games i wanted were too expensive compared to their android versions but when i saw the discounted sales promo i paid for the games i wanted and i felt deserved payment because of the efforts of the developers, the large amount of content plus i do think the developers deserved to be compensated for their creativity and hard work.
As opposed to some developers who make a game thats only 9mb or less and want 1 to 4 US dollars for it all in lackluster 2d and sucky gameplay.
There are the free 3d games like Zombie Deathland that i would rather pay for than the other not to be mentioned games.
Now Gameloft is in a different class by itself.
You can see that their 3dgames do take advantage of the wave 8500 hardware
plus the games usually are really huge downloads and have great gameplay,
graphics etc
So i bought their games at 1.25 USD coz it was worth it.
Why would i sacrifice bada 1.2 with its spoofing abilites for BADA 2
in-spite of paying for apps on the new bada 2?
1) Limited Text message storage (1300 max)
In the sales field i easily reach that limit every week sometimes
in a few days.
2) Limited APPS pages (max of 10)
bada 2 allows making folders plus it can now install all the free apps
I want which i cant do on BAda 1.2 as it would mean removing my
other apps to make room.
3) Limited Contacts (max 1500 or 2000 i cant remember exactly)
Really? In this time and age ive got outlook express filled with
10 years worth of contacts from my very first customers from
year 2000 to 2011. Forced me to edit my records to fit them into the
phone.
The above 3 reasons are really important game changers for me at least.
Im gonna miss picsel office full version but i hardly edit on a cellphone anyway.

Ok bong4316, i can see your point but that is your case.
From my point of view those points you mention are totally irrelevent (i just dont have the need for any of that), and i would not trade spoofing for it.
Im sure a lot of ppl are also equating this trade (i know some at least).
Now if samsung apps price would be brought down to android/iphone level, that would be another question, but unfortunately i still find bada appstore much too expensive in comparison. Maybe the future will prove otherwise, lets hope.
Oh, and the number of good free apps needs to increase also.
In my view, thats why android go so popular.
Well, theres one thing that could me make decide with bada 2: a GPS working flawlessly (i mean, like iphone), cause the GPS in bada 1.2 is a joke when compared to most other smartphones
I dont mind paying 10 to 30 eur for a good gps software, but it has to run flawlessy (even if the problem comes form the hardware/firmwware).
I also find the picsel office price adequate.
But most other apps are way too expensive.
Starting with the mimimum price... come on.. why cant we have apps costing 10 cents or 50 cents?
My 2 cents

Rebellos said:
It doesn't prove that FOTA file cannot be flashed separately. I'm nearly sure it can be done. It need only 1 or 2 modifications.
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Well it just proves its already part of the firmware ... So read again what I said then it would make sense that i said its part of the FW currently
In future it may be changed but atm that's not the case. Until then the statements become irrelevant

I've read it again twice and I still don't get your point.
There were alot of bada 1.2 ROMs WITHOUT FOTA module included, but capable to run FOTA flashed separately. Did anybody tried it in 2.0? Don't think so, because Samsung havent released any official FOTA module yet (why would they do it for beta version), and here are very few people that can make it by their own.

Rebellos said:
I've read it again twice and I still don't get your point.
There were alot of bada 1.2 ROMs WITHOUT FOTA module included, but capable to run FOTA flashed separately. Did anybody tried it in 2.0? Don't think so, because Samsung havent released any official FOTA module yet (why would they do it for beta version), and here are very few people that can make it by their own.
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Clearly you haven't flashed as many times as i have over the last year I had my Wave
Every time there was a FOTA file included in Bada 1.2 in the settings there was a Software update option in the General settings. Whenever there was no FOTA for the selected firmware that option was NOT in the menu.
So logically that explains why there would be or would not be one in the Bada 1.2
Go flash your phone and check it again and you will understand what i'm saying.
Bada 2.0 DONT have a FOTA file and yet the option is there and working.
So clearly you have no clue as to whats going on in the Bada 1.2 FW or the Bada 2.0 FW making your statement still irrelevant
But w/e dude. I was merely stating the facts. No need to get all worked up about it.

Hey toxicdust
you are wrong
try to flash your wave with S8500JPKC1 (it has no FOTA) and you will find the update option
it is dummy but who cares
the update option is in the settings interface layout (*.rc1 file as i think)NOT in FOTA file
Maybe FOTA will come later for 2.0
Maybe it will be included in the bootloader to kill Android project
no one really know what is bada team will do so we are just waiting and hoping
Best Regards

But i havent seen apps at even 50 cents ever.
Ive seen apps in the Apple store and android store at 99 cents but 50 cents?
And you know even in my country a dollar and 25 cents isnt that much to pay for
good software, these developers have to make a living too but i would choose to support only the best developers who give the best for my money and of course if they have their seasonal sale.
So maybe spoofing is great to try out a game before paying for it.
But i never intended not to pay for the games at all.
only the ones i never really liked those i wont pay for.
1.25 is a bit higher than the 99 cents in the android and iOs stores true
and it should change. However some games and apps give more than 99 cents
or 1.25USD
regardless of bada 1.2 or bada 2, some developers pour in a lot of heartbreaking work into their apps (others dont i agree but some devs really work hard)
its not good to ...well enjoy someones hardwork and not compensate them.

Well i meant 50 cents of Euro (i pretty sure ive seen that in the past.. but now i checked again and the minimum now seems to be 79 cents in applestore, which must correspond to the 99 cents of USD you talk about).
The minimum for bada is 1 eur (therefore 1,25 USD), which is about 26,5% more.
I agree with you when you say good and unique apps must be paid a fair price to compensate the devs work.
But in my opinion the bada appstore, and bada itself as a system, will only have a future if the number of good free apps has a large increase, and/or there is some kind of way of spoofing/jailbreaking (or wathever you wanna call it).
This is what makes a OS grow (since windows 3.1 time ). If its fair or not its another question, but such is life
As i said before, for me the perfect combination would be Bada OS with all the android apps. I'll keep dreaming

Giving bada a pice of your mind.

Hi there.
Well i'm a bit upset about the changing release date for bada 2.0. I just can't understand why they are doing this to their customers.
When i brought by S8500, i didn't expect an android or an ios phone, i understood that bada is a tiny OS and there are no warranty for updates or for the OS to survive. BUT when bada them self gives us this fake hope about releasing a new update soon and just spitting us in the face every time they say "hi guys, we can't use the money that you gave us to find a guy with a normal brain that can make up a realistic plan for the new release and gives a date that we can hold, because a date is only a symbol to show that we will not fail you, we do our best to show respect for the money you gave us and the support you are giving us".
So i twitted this to @samsungbada "@samsungbada if u can't keep your promises,don't promise.Every time u change the date for bada 2.0 release u spit your customers in the face".
Maybe it's who are being disrespectful , so please just say it. I'm i the only guy that can't understand why they are doing this to their customers, are there no one from samsung that watches so the bada-team doesn't mess up their name?
I'm more fine with bada saying bada 2.0 will be out there 2020 and then giving it 2012 then them saying NEXT MONTH and three month later saying next year.
I'm not saying that you should attack them but IF you feel as i do and see the disrespectful acting that i see then you should maybe think of sharing a piece of your mind to them. If you have an other point of view, please share it with me so i can learn from my mistakes (if i made one).
I'm a developer myself and i just cant understand what's going on. I have developed apps for Windows Phone but not for bada and i don't even own a phone with WP. Bada doesn't give me any respect so i can't give it my respect back by developing apps for it and tell my friends good thing about it.
Please remember remember, i didn't expect anything from bada, i don't expect anything from bada, but IF they them self, without any one asking , saying we will give you this hope, trust us and then spitting in our faces , then it's a different thing and that's what this thread is about, sharing our feelings and hoping that someone from them will hear it and at least gives an apology!

I don't get your anger. Samsung itself never published officially Bada 2.0's release date and so it was never changed. Every date was made up by bloggers and "sources close to the company", so your anger should point to these people, not to Samsung IMHO...

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You are in wrong section.
Please search for crying like an baby section and post then...
This is for Development and Hacking.
Best Regards

anghelyi said:
I don't get your anger. Samsung itself never published officially Bada 2.0's release date and so it was never changed. Every date was made up by bloggers and "sources close to the company", so your anger should point to these people, not to Samsung IMHO...
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"bada 2.0 will be available from 4Q(starting Europe)in different countries gradually[cont]" They announced it them self on their twitter

adfree said:
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You are in wrong section.
Please search for crying like an baby section and post then...
This is for Development and Hacking.
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I'm sorry if it's the wrong section, there are many threads just talking about bada and their releasing date, so it didn't think it would disturb.
Thanks for calling me a cry baby when i was talking about how a company should have respect for their customers, it's a very mature statement coming from you.

...so it didn't think it would disturb.
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Sorry, my fault.
But here on XDA it is "useless" info...
Why not post on SAMSUNG Forum... like this one:
http://developer.bada.com/badaforum/board/thread/list.do?boardName=bada-general
Maybe they will not answer or delete your post.
BUT they can't ignore it.
Merry Christmas

rafelr4 said:
"bada 2.0 will be available from 4Q(starting Europe)in different countries gradually[cont]" They announced it them self on their twitter
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It actually is available - on Wave 3.

Here is a link to the Bada 2 petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/bada-20-update-for-old-wave-devices-we-want-it-now
the above link is a petition started by Manuel , owner of Badablog.it who often communicates with Samsung Italy.
I understand your frustration and we can take pro active steps to make productive results. Join the petition and get everyone you know to sign up.

@adfree of course i meant "so i didn't think it..." sorry for my bad English i speak c++/c and other languages much better so
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btw thanks for the link , i want to know what developers think about the situation , because it effects us also and we are a bit important for the surviving process for bada
@Rebellos they answered this twitt "@samsungbada when we can download from KIES BADA 2.0??? We Bada users are very anxious!!!" and i guess wave 3 comes with bada 2.0 already so he must have a device that doesn't currently have bada 2.0
@bong4316 i don't care anymore if they release bada 2.0 or not , i will give something else a try, maybe Meego or something that are not android or iOS. I just hope that samsungbada learns something from this and trys to not make the same mistake again and hopefully one day win my and others respect back.
Merry Christmas every one!

Angry Bada 2.0. Time to flip the bird?

I was convinced some weeks back we'd never see Angry Birds for Bada. At least not in a time frame that would breath new life into the Bada app scene.
Then hell froze over and Angry Birds came out, but only for the Wave 3 and only for a few days. As is usual in the Samsung Bada disastersphere, an app just goes missing off the store with no explanation.
Now we've got Asphalt 6, Tintin, Hyperfight, and a few other Bada 2.0 only apps. Oddly most will on Bada 1.2, yet only can be downloaded for Wave 3 handsets. Keep in mind the Wave 3 handset only ever had Bada 2.0. Weird.
Anyway that got me thinking. I had a feeling maybe Samsung was holding back some apps for the release of the Wave 3. Maybe a good idea in their view, but a very poor one in mine. The Wave 3 will never sell as many handsets as the Wave II, let alone the Wave I. So nice move to go lockout all the previous Bada customers who put some faith in the OS, yet ended up again having waited for something and got... nothing.
I had wondered why there hadn't been any new apps from any of the big app companies for the best part of a whole year. Samsung seem to live in a world where they think people are prepared to wait endlessly while they fritter away time. It all makes sense now. Wipe the slate clean, and consider the Wave 1+2 as being testbeds. The Wave 3 is then ready to rule to world in their eyes. Thus they kept back these marque apps to help launch their Wave 3.
The problem is I still don't see any movement from app developers. Things are moving way to slow for any momentum to be made or for the early 8500 momentum to be kept going.
No matter how good Bada 2.0 is, Samsung simply cannot get anything done in a timely manner. It's not as though, hey guys we're sorry we need to polish a few things, and then it explodes all in an awesome way. No it'll be the same as we've all experienced so far. Waiting, promises of soon, leaks of things that will never get released, and enough carrots to keep people around just that little bit longer. But really it's sad a great handset has been killed by incredibly bad app store management, the slowness in how things were released, or even it at all. The low number of ported apps hurt the Wave as well. It's not that hard for a proper app company to port an app from the iOS/Android. I mean they get to use all the same art/sounds and most of the internal game code. So it has to come down to them not expressing interest, been turned off by Samsungs app policies or not seeing Bada as worth their time / or worth investing in a sinking/dying OS.
Bada 2.0 is goog enough to be the 3rd best phone OS imho. But the lack of apps ie. Skype will mean it will fail until such a time as Samsung either ditch it (Tizen perhaps?) or realise they do need to get marque apps and ports happening in abundance. At the end of the day I wouldn't care if I was using an iOS/Android or Bada phone as long as I was given a nice wide app selection. But I'm sick of this waiting feeling knowing we're just sitting there in the rowboat with no oars heading towards the falls.
At this point unless things change, people are already actually ditching their Waves and heading over to iOS/Android. I still hope the BadaDroid project turns out to be a success, but if not, in time I'm not going to give a toss and will just get a proper phone instead of using a phone that could have been one of the greats, but was knee capped at every opportunity to make it a failure.

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Too much input for my little brain.
BUTTTtttt, please stop crying...
There are several solutions available NOW AND in progress...
Please, don't be LAZY or crying whole day like an baby...
This S A C K z.
Move your bu ehm brain and use it...
Summary. You can download AND install S8600 Apps...
This is forum to bypass problems or find solution.
This is NOT wait for solution forum. Or wimpy and lazy chat forum...
All days like an little 5 years old girl in pink outfit...
Technical discussion of Bada development and hacking. No noobs please.
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I totally agree with Adfree
Please develop apps , Think how stuff work & Try to train your brain
At the end you will be able to hack the system
Also remember bada is not going around Angry birds....S8600 apps are installable on WVGA devices....Every system is not totally secure even PS3
Just please try to understand
Best Regards

I think you guys missed the point. I'm well aware of the workarounds and ways to get apps to "work". My point is it's disappointing that it comes to this. It's not as though there are 1000s of apps for the S8600 and with workarounds you can make em all work on the 8500. I'm totally ok with that. The problem is we aren't getting the apps in the first place. I've spent plenty of time helping others create programs and solutions for the Wave over the past year and a half.
My enthusiasm is waning if I'm being honest about this whole Bada experience. The amount of time and energy spent to even get a proper Skype on the Wave would have been better spent working a few extra hours and buying a proper Android phone. I see Bada now as nothing more than a dike full of holes. I've already used up all my fingers to plug them and it's still leaking.
Oh and maybe guys at least make the effort to read someones full post before assuming they are a lazy noob crybaby. Best Regards.

mylove90 said:
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Well I don't agree!
You guys are at the point of almost saying "well if you don't get firmware updates often enough and if you don't get enough useful apps, start developing your own and hack your phone and scratch your left ear with your right hand going over your head.."
What would be next? Build your own hardware if you don't like the specifications? Isn't that a bit.. hmm, how should I say it... CRAZY?
Is that why you took the money out of your pocket and gave it to Samsung? To get some piece of hardware and start banging your head against the wall each day on how to actually do something with it?
If things were to ever change, they would change because of "5 year old girls in pink outfits crying" and saying "Samsung, we paid you so deliver or GTFO of the marketplace". Not because of "cool computer whizzes" spending nights in their room hacking their phone to make it smart.
Fact: compared to 2010, in 2011 Samsung mobile phone sales increased by ~7% reaching 300.000.000 units (8.000.000 running Bada and we know how things are on this side..)
Fact: compared to 2010, in 2011 Samsung's profit increased by 73% (I don't think that's due to entry level phones - since a 7% volume increase gives you a 73% profit increase that means you sold more expensive phones than the previous year)
Fact: the Galaxy S1 which was the flagship until not long ago won't get the last Android update because Samsung doesn't care about it anymore. It sells the S2 now.. So it motives dropping the support for the S1 by saying it doesn't have enough memory, even though manufacturers like HTC or LG (apparently) did manage to find a compromise and squeeze the extra resources on configurations similar to those of the Galaxy S1.

Although I agree with what KrazyKong is trying to say here, adfree is right. This is the "Bada Software and Hacking General" forum. This is the place where people get off their butts (metaphorically ) and actually do something. If you want ti complain about Samsungs disregard for Bada, there are plenty of other forums where you can do that.

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Yeah, how? (I wrote you a letter I dunno you get it or not) I'm a noob in programming, so if you tell us step-by-step how to install S8600 apps on your Wave S8500 handset that would be lovely.

Ok guys
Stop Asking how to get S8600 Apps
Making a developer/hacker angry won't be nice
Please try the other way...I mean hacking Kies to make it connect S8500 as S8600
Please try to use your brain...If you are a regular user just step back and let real developers and hackers do their job
Best Regards

Now we've got Asphalt 6, Tintin, Hyperfight, and a few other Bada 2.0 only apps.
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Tintin NOT runs under bada 1.2 ...
Asphalt also not bada 1.x compatible...
Hyperfight you can run under bada 1.0
You can find some answers here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345375
Please... at the moment I'll try to find solution to use Kies.
So I have no time to answer every PM...
Best Regards

adfree said:
Tintin NOT runs under bada 1.2 ...
Asphalt also not bada 1.x compatible...
Hyperfight you can run under bada 1.0
You can find some answers here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345375
Please... at the moment I'll try to find solution to use Kies.
So I have no time to answer every PM...
Best Regards
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What about angry birds?

What about angry birds?
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No idea...
It was only VERY, very short for S8600 available...
Then "they" removed this Game from store.
Only h.e.ll and Samsung knows why...
If again available... we will see.
Best Regards

once removed from store apps never return
examples of past:_ brucelee, kroll etc

Don't be angry too...
In German we have:
Alles wird gut.
Heavy Metal Music for little bit relaxing and crying if you like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bNiBwNw4Cs&feature=related
Best Regards

now fruit ninja disappears from indian appstore

waveboy said:
now fruit ninja disappears from indian appstore
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yes, i wanted to download it today in college and it was missing

hi guys ....i just moved from wildfire to wave 2 .....sooooo
do you advise upgrading my wave 2 from bada 1.2 to 2.0?

I would have advised staying with your wildfire, but anyway I'd suggest making sure you know which specific device you have and if it's locked or has specific modem requirements before flashing 2.0, for example, you said wave 2, do you mean S8530 or the other mid-low range bada phone?
Sent from my GT-S5660

I too agree with KrazyKong. He puts his finger right on the button in pointing out the way samsung deal with their app store...
Agreed, Adfree points out XDA is a place where we can effectively get off our arses but I think we at XDA aren't 'normal' phone users. How many of us are 'that guy(or girl) that knows telephones' ?
Also ask yourself this, what percentage of iPhone users tinker as we do with our phones? Oh and do Apple or Google for that matter bugger about with their app store as do Samsung ?
It's Samsung that are entirely to blame for the non-success of Bada.
The reason there's no Skype, blame Samsung.
No Angry Birds, Blame Samsung.
I do however give them credit for leaking firmware, If only they would leak more precise information about their modem
Cheers

Samsung said "Goobye bada"

Hi.
Yesterday new polish marketing director of Samsung Electronics Poland in interview with „Mobility” (9/2012) said that they're ending up with bada because in 2013 there will be Tizen.
Source (polish): http://bezprzyciskow.pl/zegnamy-bada-os-chyba-bez-zalu

This is the bullet of mercy for the dying platform
I know now that Samsung is not trust worthy at all
I will buy any other brand except Samsung
Best Regards

mylove90 said:
This is the bullet of mercy for the dying platform
I know now that Samsung is not trust worthy at all
I will buy any other brand except Samsung
Best Regards
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Yes, Samsung is quite untrustworthy.
Most of us said the same like you...that we shall never buy a Samsung phone again.
Especially after the dashed hopes on the first ever 8mega camera phone (INNOV8) or the first ever HD camera phone (HD Omnia) of the Symbian OS family. But today we are still with Samsung because there are no other best option.
All phone manufacturers are selfish; they seek to satisfy their pockets only.

mylove90 said:
This is the bullet of mercy for the dying platform
I know now that Samsung is not trust worthy at all
I will buy any other brand except Samsung
Best Regards
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they never provided required love and support to their own child "Bada".
They never promoted it to any extend.
Wave users got so called BIG update after 2 years and that with soo many bugs.
we are only asking for bug free os for our smartphones and nothing else
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we are still with Samsung because there are no other best option.
All phone manufacturers are selfish; they seek to satisfy their pockets only.
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Is that really true???
there are also few manufacturers who makes good quality smartphones and provides good support.Nokia,HTC,Sony.. to name few of them.
As you know,SONY provided ICS to all its Android phones manufactured in 2011.
Nokia as every one know supports its customers by many ways.

Is that really true???
there are also few manufacturers who makes good quality smartphones and provides good support.Nokia,HTC,Sony.. to name few of them.
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But does Nokia have new phones with other soft than Windows Phone? Nokia was good, but... do you remember MeeGoo (or Maemo)?
HTC maybe is good, but... in my country it's too expensive. And for me, every HTCs have strange design.
Sony? Maybe it's good too... but after adventure with PlayStation I don't trust it anymore. You don't know if any phone has "backdoor" to check if you have rooted phone, right?
This is the bullet of mercy for the dying platform
I know now that Samsung is not trust worthy at all
I will buy any other brand except Samsung
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Yes. That show how many idiots work in Samsung. People don't know anything, but say things like "we will add mp3 player equalizer, maybe in bada 3.0", after my question. NICE! I'd like to buy other brand of phone, but... I trusted samsung. Now I don't have "my" brand.

https://www.tizen.org/community/events
Submitted in November 2011
Normally in next few days is IFA in Berlin...
About Tizen is absolutly silence since April 2012, since their first and last SDK...
Tizen is designed by same Samsung Developers... we know from bada...
https://twitter.com/justinpassion/
architect of bada and tizen platform
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If on IFA is nothing about Tizen... then maybe next event is MWC 2013
http://www.mobileworldcongress.com/2013-preview.html
Maybe this means Tizen devises only available in middle 2013...
Okay, bada is at the moment not very attractive to end user...
Little bit Zombie...
But it is alive via Samsung App Store...
Tizen seems not finish or crappy... And Tizen is in main Samsung baby again...
See Tizen SDK...
Tizen SDK is from Samsung.
I don't think, that other manufacturer will release Tizen devices before Samsung nor before Tizen SDK is complete... Download from folder unstable...
Maybe someone should use Twitter with Justin Hong...
He seems also offline since April...
Strange...
Release Name: bada SDK 2.0.5
Release Date: 2012/03/14
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Last bada SDK, 1 month later last Tizen SDK...
Maybe also this vs. Apple is one reason, why Tizen is not finished yet and ready to launch this year...
Best Regards

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But does Nokia have new phones with other soft than Windows Phone? Nokia was good, but... do you remember MeeGoo (or Maemo)?
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Now,why i say NOKIA is best,trustworthy company in customer satisfaction....
1. Nokia released N9 With meeGo 1.0 in September 2011(around 1 year back).
2. This was the only phone(i think) which was released by Nokia having Meego.
3. Updates :-
MeeGo 1.1 -Nov 2011- Music controls on the lock screen, additional filters to the camera application, NFC tag reading, Twitter image sharing, Swype keyboard, Chinese language support, noise cancellation using second microphone
MeeGo 1.2 -Mar 2012 - Folders in the Applications view, Continuous shutter mode in Camera, Google Talk video calls, improvements to the Nokia Drive application such as Speed limit settings, defining home location, etc., DLNA media sharing, software update notifications for 3rd party applications (downloaded from Nokia Store), playlist support in music player, enhancements to the Mail for Exchange address book (ability to access corporate mail address directory), Universal Copy and paste support and in the stock browser; Thai, Hebrew, Persian, Vietnamese and Kazakh language support
MeeGo 1.3-July 2012 -Over 1000 quality improvements including Mail, Facebook, Twitter, minor network & connectivity improvements.
Now,that's called Customer support.it doesn't matter how many N9 sold worldwide by Nokia,they only know how to satisfy customers.
You can compare this with Sammy's Bada.(Guys, Correct me if I am wrong,its from wiki)
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Yes. That show how many idiots work in Samsung. People don't know anything, but say things like "we will add mp3 player equalizer, maybe in bada 3.0", after my question. NICE! I'd like to buy other brand of phone, but... I trusted samsung. Now I don't have "my" brand.
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yes,same they did with Wave 3 architecture and wave 1/2 ....same game can't run on both due to some texture issue.
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Strange...
Release Name: bada SDK 2.0.5
Release Date: 2012/03/14
Last bada SDK, 1 month later last Tizen SDK...
Maybe also this vs. Apple is one reason, why Tizen is not finished yet and ready to launch this year...
Best Regards
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very true adfree....
we are not saying give us millions of apps...we are saying give us bug free os and some support.
it's not our problem how many OS's Samsung supports...but,it does not mean Samsung should leave one task incomplete and start another one.

Hm... sound great. So you're right that nokia has good customer support. But nokia killed this os. Faster than samsung (officially ). What about applications? Are developers creating new applications/games for MeeGo?
yes,same they did with Wave 3 architecture and wave 1/2 ....same game can't run on both due to some texture issue.
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Yes, but it's both apps developers and bada certification team fault.
it's not our problem how many OS's Samsung supports...but,it does not mean Samsung should leave one task incomplete and start another one.
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Especially if bada 2.0 has LESS options than bada 1.2. Where's my fake call option? Where are my profiles?

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Especially if bada 2.0 has LESS options than bada 1.2. Where's my fake call option? Where are my profiles?
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and what i hate most...is we the users of bada not asking anything to Samsung.
don't give us apps...we will not say a word.
don't give us updates...we will not say a word.
don't treat us as customer..we will not say a word.
Samsung can answers to petition or protest of galaxy users(Galaxy S -ICS),so what wrong have we done?
I really felt bad for wave 1 users..as they got so called BIG update after 2 years.

We said many words. But samsung don't answer to any of them. I've reported memory leak bug in software: 2 months ago. Any response I got is "Thanks. We are checking it and we'll return to you soon".

Yes,Memory leak is another critical bug in Bada 2.0,make me to restart my cell every day before playing heavy games...
we should work as unit to ask Sammy to answer our questions.
Regards...

Memory management is critical bug. But i discovered bug in WebApi. Function setWallpaper doesn't free memory. After few calls to this function, in badaSI you can see that you have less "free memory". That's why my widget "WChanger" (wallpaper changing after eg. few minutes) was rejected from certification.
EDIT: first they said that there isn't any bug. To my next report with my firmware attached, 2 months ago, I didn't get answer.

Its very Strange (the ram management issue) after changing my PCB from samsung service center the problems seems to be vanished, now i can start and play any games anytime without restarting the phone, even "not enough memory" error is gone
Hmmm Strange very Strange