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Porting Android to Wave (Replace Bada)

Has anyone tried it yet, what was the outcome?
Is it possible?
Please share your ideas, views and suggestions here.

I think i read somewhere about it, but the project is not continue, unfortunatelly :/
search, maybe you'll find something

Hey Abhishek...
Why do you need to create another thread...??
There are two ongoing threads on the same topic... And if you are interested please head on to those to find out the info about porting android on bada..
Dont create unnecessary threads.... I suggest delete this... or after sometime all we will see in the Bada Section is useless threads....

*facepalm*
Read other topics WWW.ANDROIDPORT.NEt there is the wavedroid project.

Go away and come back when you have some progress for us wavedroid.

Still wondering if wavedroid is a money making exercise or a genuine attempt at getting Android over. The delays don't help the impression this is an exercise being led by folks more eager than actually having the skills to accomplish the task.
I'll be the first to eat my hat if this ever comes to fruition, but I won't be donating anything to something that at this point seems to have only updates on various delays.
Hows this for an interesting post on the JetDroid website...
Not sure why you need the expensive software, it is nice and would help but 95% of the works is already completed for you guys.
To start:
Look for phones with same hardware then use that parts from their android and put the parts into a custom version. You can reuse the /sbin and /system folders from the android sdk virtual machine or if you want better performance use the /sbin and /system of a similar hardware phone android version and just add your init , init.rc , zimage and package this into a rom or dual boot like we do.
CPU:
The wave / Samsung-Intrinsity S5PC110 cpu is much more supported than our s3c6410 and used even by Apple so look at idroid , samsung crespo , HTC 4G android , samsung i9000 for sources for your android files to start from.
Screen:
The screen is possibly the same as S8000 or Spica, wave 3.3" the rest is in other samsung opensource files you just need to mix and match parts.
Obstacles:
The biggest problem might be the cpu and screen + andreno or powervx or Mali display driver but android.so will work until you get to the video driver.
Camera:
Camera is in M910 samsung opensource files / other 5MP camera, there is only a few 5MP camera from that samsung uses so might need to work on the code if you can not find it from a same camera android phone version that is already working.
Now make a good WaveDroid version:
Once you have all this and have it working then you can build a clean custom version of android optmized for your phone. CM for HTC 4G phones might work with almost no or little changes possibly just in the kernel.
The samsung opensource website has the SCH-W850 / SPH-W8500 / SPH-W8550 , this could share some hardware with Samsung Wave as well, similar number codes. Look for a recent code release nov/dec 2010 or later.
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After reading that, I felt I could almost make an android port myself lol. Clearly there are some very knowledgeable and experienced persons out there.
What really bugs me is the Wavedroid folks have been asking for money for months, yet have shown not a shred of proof they have accomplished anything. Secondly, folks have been asking (rightfully so), why you have not implemented a Paypal widget so people can see just how much money you have raised so far. I know you are using illegal software and thus don't want to let everyone into your inner circle to see the progress, but you have shown and proved absolutely nothing. There are more doubts than positive feelings at the moment.

Please don't let this thread grow to one of two-three pages which is worth nothing, there is already another one just for this purpose

Android port is stuck because programmers dont have any programm to edit the bootloader of wave,so they can not do the port...
If anyone knows any free programm to edit ARM 7 files (like IDA 5.7) please give it to them.
But if nobody knows any programm for this case the have to wait until they have enough money form donations to buy the IDA 5.7
(sorry for my english)

This is outrageous, the fact that you need commercial tools to do what your looking to do clearly denotes your level of incompetence. Look at idroid. i didnt see them asking people for money to buy tools?? And i would say that Apple did a much better job locking down the i range then samsung did with the Wave. If you have stumbled at the starting block just forfeit the race.
Prove to us that you know what the f**k your doing and then you can have your donations.
Generally i supported this project, but then you asked for money. Money changes everything.

sabianadmin said:
This is outrageous, the fact that you need commercial tools to do what your looking to do clearly denotes your level of incompetence. Look at idroid. i didnt see them asking people for money to buy tools?? And i would say that Apple did a much better job locking down the i range then samsung did with the Wave. If you have stumbled at the starting block just forfeit the race.
Prove to us that you know what the f**k your doing and then you can have your donations.
Generally i supported this project, but then you asked for money. Money changes everything.
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I agree with U

Asking for money, without providing any scrap of proof that anything is even going on, is what irks people here. Not even a simply paypal donation widget exists so folks can see what the $ count is too.
Too many red flags on this one. I know I'm not the first to ask for proof, or even just something other than "we are working it, it'll be done soooooon, give us all your moneys roflwtflolbbq"
So many other android ports happened without need for this software. And also may I point out what seems total ineptitude on the wavedroid team's part. The Galaxy S contains pretty much the identical hardware as the Wave does. In fact you find me a phone that has identical hardware, one running android, the other something else, and tell me we already have as near an android phone as you're going to get. Compared to other port projects, this should have been done in a weekend to be honest.
wavedroid are bogus, and will accomplish nothing just like all the so called Android to Wave projects and groups previously.

I agree with sabian. I don't know a **** about how difficult or easy is this, but i'm pretty sure that there are good developers around here. Why couldn't you start a new project?

I aggre with you guys,it is very odd that they ask for money without doing anythink...
I just posted that if you know any free software that works with ARM7 files it would be good to inform then...
But they have a very good reason to ask for money because if they can not edit the bootloader they can not load anythink else from bada...if they do that the project it would be almost done because wave and galaxy s have similar hardware so with some fixes to scripts they will have a very good androidport to wave..

Can any other OS be ported to S8500 easily?

I'm not a big fan of Bada, having it for a couple of months now.
I'm hoping 2.0 will be better, but by then can another OS be ported to S8500 with less fuss than Android (e.g. WM7, webOS etc.)

you are kidding right??
Android which is open source os couldn't be ported until now (god be with you oleg)
so what do you think about closed operating systems like Windows phone 7 or Web os
please people think before posting
if you don't understand what i mean until now
i'd just say no it is not possible or easy task at all

Ok, meego then

forget it man...android is the best thing we can get into our waves and i am not sure meego is any better in every way. I suggest close this thread

maybe maemo???

mylove90 said:
you are kidding right??
Android which is open source os couldn't be ported until now (god be with you oleg)
so what do you think about closed operating systems like Windows phone 7 or Web os
please people think before posting
if you don't understand what i mean until now
i'd just say no it is not possible or easy task at all
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please learn to read and to think

Hold your horses now! He is asking a very valid question. The biggest issue in porting another platform to the S8500 has been the boot loader which is being tackled, once we have a method of booting Android then other OSs especially ones using the Linux kernel (Such as Meego) shouldnt be as big of a task as porting Android is/was.
As for Maemo, Maemo is now Meego so it would be a little stupid to try porting Maemo now wouldn't it

...shouldnt be as big of a task as porting Android...
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You can erase whole OneNAND and make your "own OS".
So you had full Control of your Wave... only JTAG needed.
Bootloader is only 1 problem. All other problems are also BIG enough.
Please. How many handsets you know with more then 1 OS...
Most user can only power on or off their handsets...
So Porting OS to different handsets is NEVER easy.
Only posting funny Questions or funny answers are easy.
Best Regards

Dokugogagoji said:
So what? N900 is not Wave
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i know boy, but i would like to have meego or ubuntu in my wave
only posting that its posible

adfree said:
You can erase whole OneNAND and make your "own OS".
So you had full Control of your Wave... only JTAG needed.
Bootloader is only 1 problem. All other problems are also BIG enough.
Please. How many handsets you know with more then 1 OS...
Most user can only power on or off their handsets...
So Porting OS to different handsets is NEVER easy.
Only posting funny Questions or funny answers are easy.
Best Regards
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Sigh.... you seem to have gotten lost in translation. I was not claiming that Android was easy to port, I was Saying that once we have android ported other linux based OSs (such as meego) would be much easi*er* (not easy) to port over. Get it right before making statements like that in future. Also i can name quite a few, most of the WinMo 6 devices are able to boot android, the Galaxy S can boot ubuntu and android and meego, the pre can boot android, Web OS and the openmoko OS, the the HD7 can boot android and WP7, the HD2 can boot WP7 android, meego and WinMo 6.5 and the iPhone can boot iX, Android and IOS...... Shall i continue or shall i just take it my point is proven?

Sigh.... you seem to have gotten lost in translation.
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Maybe.
But easy, easily nor easier can describe any Porting project.
In my opinion:
Heavy, heavier, extreme...
According to Thread title...
Can any other OS be ported to S8500 easily?
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To many users not understand, how much hard work is in porting OS...
Best Regards

Is there a device that originally was not running Windows Mobile/Phone that got ported to do it?

As far as i know there was some success with the Desire HD having WP7 ported to it, however the Desire HD and the HD7 (Which is a WP7 device) have identical hardware.

sabianadmin said:
As far as i know there was some success with the Desire HD having WP7 ported to it, however the Desire HD and the HD7 (Which is a WP7 device) have identical hardware.
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Exactly what I meant. People should be realistic about the technical feasibility of some projects. The other part is community support - looking at how android porting project (being high demand from users) developed from a single man adventure to next-to-single I really doubt than any other OS would ever be ported to Wave. Anyone with belief of having enough tech know-how is welcome to begin and will receive support (from the few actually doing something) after showing good prognosis, but the chances of that ever happening are rather low.

I'm with sabianadmin on this topic: if oleg managed to create a fully functional linux kernel then why stop there? As ubuntu has ARM port it will be relatively easy to do that... Of course this will be just another toy to tinker with, but why not?

Almost everything can have an ARM port. However, I don't see anybody interested in doing the work volunteering own time for somebody to have a toy.
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?

mijoma said:
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?
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Sure I feel the bigest issue with porting is always the time: everyone has her/his own life, work, family and most of the projects are time consuming... I can't find time to finish my Bada SDK learning rss reader project not to say bigger projects.

mijoma said:
Almost everything can have an ARM port. However, I don't see anybody interested in doing the work volunteering own time for somebody to have a toy.
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?
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Once you get the linux kernel working and a boot loader booting then it becomes a simple task to get other Linux based OSs running on that device. You can just recycle the kernel from the Android port and thats about 80 percent of the work done. As for non linux based OSs you would have to start from scratch. All of the OSs i mentioned in this thread bar WP7 and WMO run on top of linux. This seems very obvious to me but clearly you fail to see that the difficult task such as building the kernel with the correct hardware support and finding a way to boot and initialize are either done or are being worked on and are close to completion.

sabianadmin said:
This seems very obvious to me but clearly you fail to see that the difficult task such as building the kernel with the correct hardware support and finding a way to boot and initialize are either done or are being worked on and are close to completion.
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No. I fail to see the people eager to do it. I am pretty aware of the status of the android project and feel annoyed at the number of people involved. I wouldn't say it's that close judging from the pace of progress.
Even what most would find impossible is doable with enough effort, so talking about feasibility and complexity of tasks is just a background where human resources with enough tech know-how is still the main subject.

Bada 2.0 in India in July

And it is July now
Here's the post I found http://archiverabhinav.blogspot.com/2011/04/samsung-bada-2-launch-announced-for.html

no wonder i have somewhere read that bada has in india 10 % of market, they are aming to countries that like bada, germany as i am using its firmwares will get it i think as last, the people there dont like bada and putting it down on every forum.
maybe it is better so, india has more oses to choose and we are sitting on only two to choose, yepee.

Lol that is old news
after that samsung shifted to september

kadavil said:
Lol that is old news
after that samsung shifted to september
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lol
as i remember they said on mwc that the sdk will come on july and bada 2.0 on september for wave and waveII.
and this news is from april. I dont know also the pictures are from this guy here that postet the first bada 2.0 pictures, this is not a long time ago.

In April, they said bada 2.0 will come to India in July..
few weeks later, a tweet from them said September

Thanks Kadavil for info..( btw are u the same kadavil who is on badaforums? )

flopsyyy said:
Thanks Kadavil for info..( btw are u the same kadavil who is on badaforums? )
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Yes..he is the same kadavil

Maybe they will launch the Wave 578 in July (with Bada 2.0) and the 2.0 FW for Wave and Wave II will be released in September.. That way.. both news will be true
What we can get earlier though is the public beta/ other country versions.

antz.bin said:
Maybe they will launch the Wave 578 in July (with Bada 2.0) and the 2.0 FW for Wave and Wave II will be released in September.. That way.. both news will be true
What we can get earlier though is the public beta/ other country versions.
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Public beta wont be out yet
The closed beta is only about to start and everyone in it is bound by the TOC not to distribute it
Im in the closed beta and the 2.0 SDK is not yet out either so looking at September would be a good indication for the Beta to be out not the release

Well, As i see Bada 2.0 is much awaited. And, I think people who got Android on Wave are soon gonna throw away android and get Bada...Maybe there will be a port of bada into Samsung Galaxy

roxyroot said:
Well, As i see Bada 2.0 is much awaited. And, I think people who got Android on Wave are soon gonna throw away android and get Bada...Maybe there will be a port of bada into Samsung Galaxy
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ha ha it will never happen be sure

lol it is currently happaning, everyone wants bada 2.0 on wave

larioteo said:
lol it is currently happaning, everyone wants bada 2.0 on wave
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Sure. Because of the leaked firmware. But we had the same when the first android build leaked... So I think it's just a matter of personal taste. I'm happy seeing the 2.0.1 leaked, and to be honest I like what I see on the videos. But I won't stop developing Android because of it...

maybe yes, why not? android has his supporters more than enough some bada hackers are always welcome. hack the kernel give us root rights, than you will be more than a hero man. the first person that hacked bada and not the 100000000 person that hacked android.

used bada 2.0 for two hours
liked it... but still want android

larioteo said:
hack the kernel give us root rights, than you will be more than a hero man.
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All is possible.
How would you define root rights? I'm not familiar with the API - what is that functionality that is not accessible?
We all need to be aware that any stick has two ends and privilege escalation may easily lead to malicious usage at some point.

what root rights, you don't have a plan man, why you need root rights? an app can write to media folder over an api that is secure, on android an app can send you data to anywhere with root rights, what is better? every app is possible, a little bit reading the documentation would help, and the protection that noone can hack the apps as easy is for developers a dream on android there are so many illegal stuff, that the small ones doesnt earn anything on it, everybody using android here wants to use illegal software and this is why android is crap, why to develop for such a os, for fun? some people needs to earn money with their coding, what can they say? they all going to ios cause there you can earn much more money, and bada 2.0 is the opponennt of ios not android, android is only a illegal container for me, no interesting stuff in, you must even install a packet counter app to know how much you use internet connection, realy unusable an os that cannot do what my old W800i could do.

Sorry, but I didn't get what you mean. I don't need root rights for anything. I'm not mobile developer, I do research for fun and I honestly don't crave for Android. I was referring to your previous post about bada hacking and just wanted to know what you mean. I definitively could use some reading of the documentation, but it would be by far more convenient if you just answered the question. I support initiatives where people sacrifice their time and don't get into fights between mobile platforms. I do not support warez and do not publish anything leading to developers losses. I can understand your irritation as you (from what I understand) code for living, but try to canalize the emotions in the other direction. I rephrase the question:
Is there a blocked functionality in bada that the developers could potentially use, but it is not usable without certain permissions or access to some resources?

OK rootrights would be in one point nice, to access the internal system and to do some major changes witout custom firmwares or stunes, that is all, if i want to change something or to add my email account backup this would be a nice solution for everyone, all other things i am also not interested in.

We'll see, but I don't suppose it to be a kindergarten play. I should have a bit more time for this in August. Maybe there will be some more Bada 2.0 firmwares to analyze by that time.

Petition to make Wave 1/2/3 source code open source - collecting ideas

Hi everyone,
I started this on Sammobile yesterday (where it is already a sticky). Also, german site Badania has wrote about it now, too. The petition is not started yet, this is only for collecting ideas and knowing about your opinions. Recently there was some 'news' saying that the Wave 3 source code was made open source, which turned out to be untrue (the file released by Samsung was only 130kB big). Big letdown for many of us, and Wave 1/2 source codes were not even mentioned.
The current situation
The thing is, at least the Wave 1/2 users desperately need an open source release to continue enjoying their devices. Both devices are great hardware, they have a big community and developers willing to put in some ellbow grease, but, we don't have the means to fix certain stuff, only Samsung has. You might think about the trouble upgrading Samsung Apps and the trouble with push and SHP in general that many Wave users have experienced in the last few weeks and months. You might think about all the small annoyances that you users ask us CFW developers to fix everyday (but we can't). You may also think of the BadaDroid project, and the tons of work put into developing a working modem driver, still with nothing to show to the public until now.
The last official Wave 1 FW is from July (with little to none improvements over the January XXLA1 release), the last official Wave 2 FW is even older. Some of you think (and with a reason) that Samsung themselves are not willing to do any more updates or fixes for these two devices. They have, more or less officialy, abandoned these devices and are not willing to put in any more work. We, as a community, on the other hand are willing to work on these - without pay even -, but our hands and feet are bound behind our backs due to the Wave 1/2 being closed source. Don't be fooled by our recent successes (design changes, ported chinese keyboard and quickpanel) - reverse engineering is like stumbling through the dark in an unknown environment, and eventually we will come to a standstill. With Bada being closed source, we will always lag behind the likes of Android.
Samsung themselves are no strangers to the idea of openness. They plan to make Tizen an open source project, they also develop highly succesfull Android devices and they also did at least say that they are interested in releasing the Wave 3 source code. Also, they are just now planning a big company image overhaul, with a new logo and a new policy of more openness. But, if nothing is done, they will just forget about the 'old' Wave 1/2 devices - guaranteed.
So, what now?
This is where you, the users, the developers, the mods, the bloggers, everyone in the Bada community come in. I've been playing around for a while with the idea of starting a petition for exactly this: To ask Samsung to release in full the Wave 1/2/3 (or for even more Wave devices) source codes. But wait, don't rush things now!
We need a big, coordinated effort, spanning all the Bada sites around the globe.
We need the petition to operate from a site that's easy to use for everyone (that means no complicated signup and no shady stuff), and we need the petition's text to be multi-lingual, translated in all the languages of all Bada countries: german, turkish, azerbaijani, arabic, polish, czech, french, italian, spanish, and a lot that I have forgotten about. We need a great, short text (not as long as this one) for the petition, so that everyone knows even from a quick glance the why's and the uses of such a petition.
We also need supporters, people willinng to spread the word on other sites, especially the big ones such as XDA or Bada-Turkiye, but also the smaller ones. We need every voice, and we need as many people in this as possible.
We need to give Samsung the choice to either publicly let down thousands of customers, or just, finally, give us the source code that we have been waiting for for so long.
Further proceeding - my suggestion
Now, this is what I suggest now:
Don't rush things - we should be collecting ideas for at least a week until we even think about actually starting a petition.
If you're willing to support this case, spread the word or even find more supporters, let us know here.
Double points if you're also a member of some non-english-speaking Bada community .
If you have any additional ideas or concerns, also let us know - this is what this thread is for, to collect ideas and coordinate this.
We need a good short english text for the petition itself (I may come up with something later myself).
We need translations for this text in as many languages as possible. And, no, I'm not thinking about Google translations, but about the good old manual ones.
Looking forward to your opinions!

Big sorry.
But this petition can only Santa Claus make true...
1.
Samsung is not alone patent holder...
Wave 1-3 use Qualcomm Hardware AND Software...
So Qualcomm patents affected...
Nearly same stuff is in hundrets of devices from other manufacturer too, because also Qualcomm...
Not only Qualcomm... think about Quram...
Security and Compression Algos...
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Place holder...
Best Regards

i agree this Samsung release the source code wave 1 2 3

Maybe we should think about making the petition not only about Samsung, but also about Qualcomm and Quram. Hopes for Modem drivers and the like might be slim, but chances are we'll get a step forward, at least being able to do something more. I think Bada libraries source codes are well within the realm of possibility, and we could already do a lot with them.
Also... what else could we do now, hoping to keep the Wave 1/2 development alive?
BTW: Christmas might also be a good time to make our wishes come true .

http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-we-want-a-good-working-bada-for-all-devices#
Why not continue this petition...
with 1,435 supporters
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adfree said:
http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-we-want-a-good-working-bada-for-all-devices#
Why not continue this petition...
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That would be a good thing, but - I don't think that we will get Samsung to fix it themselves, and the petitions text is not clear about alternatives such as open sourcing. I think it's a different thing.

Hi Guys...
I am a writer from Badaforums.net.
1 month back,we planed to file petition for open source bada and we got good response.
but,after sometime we dropped the plan as we needed some reliable(and known) person to file the petition.
we have a draft ready for the petition...if u want,u all can have a look at this...
we can use this to file petition if u want...I can give the text file(only to reliable person)...
link is as below :
http ://www.badaforums.net/forums/announces/petition-request-samsung-support-bada-update-t7183.html (Refer Image)
Regards,
WaveGuru

Nice...
You mean the attached one?
I hope, it is okay, that I added your portal as Supprter at our article as official supporter...

Taxidriver05 said:
Nice...
You mean the attached one?
I hope, it is okay, that I added your portal as Supprter at our article as official supporter...
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Yes,its OK.
I don't remember whether this is the final draft or not(have to search my machine ) ,but we can use the final one.
but,before that we need to gather support from all sites.
and BTW,Badaforums is not my portal...i am just writer of that forum
Regards,
WaveGuru

waveguru said:
Hi Guys...
I am a writer from Badaforums.net.
1 month back,we planed to file petition for open source bada and we got good response.
but,after sometime we dropped the plan as we needed some reliable(and known) person to file the petition.
we have a draft ready for the petition...if u want,u all can have a look at this...
we can use this to file petition if u want...I can give the text file(only to reliable person)...
link is as below :
http ://www.badaforums.net/forums/announces/petition-request-samsung-support-bada-update-t7183.html (Refer Image)
Regards,
WaveGuru
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Nice! I would, however, suggest to make this a bit shorter. People seem to be too lazy to read these times . Also, set the accent on the Open Source release and include Qualcomm in the petitions recipients list. Although this may sound pessimistic, I'm amost sure that Samsung themselves won't do any development or OS updates for the Wave 1/2 (and smaller Waves) themselves.

I guess I should give some more details. Also, for those too lazy too read the whole text: Just jump to the paragraph that answers your question.
What is this about?
We want to ask Samsung to release the source codes for the Wave 1/2/3 firmwares and Qualcomm to release the accompanying hardware drivers (the Qualcomm part is an additional proposal by me).
Why is this important? / Why should I promote this or participate?
For me personally, this is something of a last hope, especially for the Wave 1/2 devices. I should know being a CFW developer myself: With what we got now, we just don't get far, and there's tons of stuff that we just can't fix (because we don't know how it works, because we can't do any changes... etc). Also, think about the BadaDroid project, which will likely get a big boost from a source code release (modem driver, anyone?). Without the open sourcing we will eventually come to standstill, and that point is not too far in the future.
Why now? / How is this different from earlier petitions?
First of all: This is the first petition specifically made to ask Samsung to release the source code. Now is a good time for this, because Samsung is planning a complete brand makeover over thenext few weeks and months. With this brand makeover comes a new policy of openness, which can only be good for this petition to reach its goal.
"The Wave 3 Bada OS is already open source." / "They'll release anyways because of Open Source Tizen."
I can assure you, it is not. Although this news was on several big Bada news site during the last two weeks, the news turned out to be untrue. The file provided by Samsung is only 130kB big and contains something, but not the Wave 3 source code. It is worse for the Wave 1 and Wave 2 devices, cause these two will be just forgotten about if we don't act. Remember, Tizen is only planned for the Wave 3, and I'm not even sure if that is official.
"This won't work."
Of course, you won't have any guarantees this will work, even if you participate or promote this. The alternative - doing nothing of the like and just hoping for the best - won't most likely do you any good either (read the second paragraph for my personal opinion). Also, we're open to suggestions on how to do this the best way. We want the whole Bada community in this, and we want to listen to your opinions and proposals.
We already have supporters such as german site Badania.de, czech site mojebada.cz, US based site badaforums.net and we're in good hopes of getting even more of the big and smaller ones to support us. This is planned to be a big global effort.
"The modem driver is owned by Qualcomm, not Samsung."
So, you're interested in BadaDroid development specifically? That's right, and that's also the reason why I'm suggesting to add Qualcomm to the petitions recipient list.

Quram algorithms sourcecode is what they sell, so they won't publish it.
Qualcomm AMSS sourcecode - forget it.
Parts of Samsung SHP source - maybe, but from my experience with Samsung HQ I wouldn't count on much. ;P

If we all want to start with this petition,we have to start early and with full proof plan.
but,we will need support from whole bada community and many sites.
I am ready to help...with my blogging and ideas...
Regards,
WaveGuru

We of badaos.net (Iranian Bada forum) are ready to sign the petition. Our forum has 20,000 users (about 3000 active)

Thanks everyone for their support!
Waveguru and nip_miniw, can we add you to the list of official supporters? Maybe also your sites (badaforums.net and badaos.net)? And, don't think wrong if it has gotten a little bit silent here, we're still working on this! But, we also still need more supporters.
If you're willing to help, post here, please.

Rebellos said:
Quram algorithms sourcecode is what they sell, so they won't publish it.
Qualcomm AMSS sourcecode - forget it.
Parts of Samsung SHP source - maybe, but from my experience with Samsung HQ I wouldn't count on much. ;P
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You're 100% right about the Quram (QMG images, anyone?) source codes, and probably about the Qualcomm AMSS source code, too. But, with your new low level BadaDroid modem driver - would we even need the Qualcomm source anymore? Also, for the rest, I think anything will help, right?

k8500 said:
Thanks everyone for their support!
Waveguru and nip_miniw, can we add you to the list of official supporters? Maybe also your sites (badaforums.net and badaos.net)? And, don't think wrong if it has gotten a little bit silent here, we're still working on this! But, we also still need more supporters.
If you're willing to help, post here, please.
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I think I can help too,,
I have a little group named BadaIL, we rleased 5 roms until today..
what can I do?

k8500 said:
Thanks everyone for their support!
Waveguru and nip_miniw, can we add you to the list of official supporters? Maybe also your sites (badaforums.net and badaos.net)? And, don't think wrong if it has gotten a little bit silent here, we're still working on this! But, we also still need more supporters.
If you're willing to help, post here, please.
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What should we do as an official supporter?

k8500 said:
Thanks everyone for their support!
Waveguru and nip_miniw, can we add you to the list of official supporters? Maybe also your sites (badaforums.net and badaos.net)? And, don't think wrong if it has gotten a little bit silent here, we're still working on this! But, we also still need more supporters.
If you're willing to help, post here, please.
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Hi k8500,
I am ready to help u all.I also have a plan in place.if you want,we can discuss this over PM.
but,I believe that making Bada as an open source should be one of the thing in petition.
we should also need to ask Samsung to provide us bugfree bada...as current bada firmware is not bugfree.
if we can't play HD games with current firmware...if we need to switch off our wave every time to clear ram...then its Samsung DUTY to provide us bugfree OS which they promised.
As many said that this will not change anything... Samsung will not do this...
It will be Samsung's decision whether they want to provide their customer bug free product or not ...but as a customer...as a money payer...I want to try to make Samsung realize that what they are doing is not RIGHT.
Thanks and Regards,
WaveGuru

I think...
At first we need an overview, who will officially support this petition...
We (badaNIA) will definitely do so...
Need name of plattform and contact infos...

[Q] p5220 starting to die regards to custom roms?

Hi folks,
now I'm pretty sure this is going to upset some people but if I don't ask I won't
learn.Is the Samsung tab 3, p5220 to be exact, starting to die as a platform for
custom roms?
I ask because I have been looking on google, here and etc, and the only roms, and I
mean complete roms not someone simply ripping a few oem apps out, I have seen
are Restless's rom, possibly a CM 11 nightly which I can't actually confirm and maybe
a Pimpdroid rom. None of these seem to have been under active developement for at least 12 months.
This just seems really odd. Okay I could be looking in all the wrong places. But if I compare
the samsung custom rom availability to that of my htc desire hd, then they are not even
in the same country.
Yes, I know comparing tablet to a phone isn't exactly fair but it is the only comparion I have.
I guess I just have to wait for the flaming to begin now.
Many thanks,
Andrew

Andrew,
ROAR !!! ARGH!!! :silly:
okay seriously though, the architecture [x86] in conjuction with trying to hammer out issues while working
around proprietary stuff is time consuming and doesn't carry on in public view on a predicatable prime-time
schedule for what here is a largely hobbyist/free time community. @Angel_666 has been working on this [cmXX][gt-p52xx]
for probably longer than anyone else, read the entire thread to get the full story.
It's not the same trip as it is for arm devices which are pretty much the norm/standard.
@Restl3ss @CAG-man @Aeyan Ashraf have all kicked in to provide all manner of options/mods/roms/themes, etc.
 @r2d23cpo is working on establishing a "native" Ubuntu for the tab.
IMHO, cyanogenmod isn't necessary, just meaning i prefer a modded/hacked rooted stock rom/kernel.
The ram limitation on the 5210 definitely sucks though.
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Andrew you have wake up! Welcome to the forgotten land. Well that is not true. There are a lot of good developers here giving their best. I would not name them because I am afraid of forgetting some body.
I like my TAB310.1 as a device. I guess it worth the money I pay. I mean when the wind blows it is heavy and big enough to hold my paperwork. jijijijij
But yes google, samsung and intel are screwing up with all us. Google for nealing under N S A pressure, Samsung for making so many tables models that they can not maintain and Intel for keeping proprietary drivers and not releasing open-sources..
This is why moonbutt74 said: "working around proprietary stuff is time consuming and doesn't carry on in public view". Yes thanks to all of you friends that are working for us.
It is also true that one by one of our developers are moving to new devices!!! moonbut74 is the latest. RIP. jijijiji
What is worst is that this is going to continue and get worse with new devices. N S A is convincing the industry to adopt more and more constrains on android. Yes the same N S A that spy on us and protect us. Yes I know they try to protect us. I am predicting than in less than 2 years Android OS is going to die, or at least is going to worth nothing. Time will tell.

Thanks to all
Hi everyone,
Thanks for info. I honestly did not even think that the core issue was the underlying architecture.
Out of curiosity, is HTC a more cooperative company towards developers then Samsung/ intel?
I will admit I really do like my p5220, but I wish Samsung would either do a stable rom or make it easier
for Restl3ss and co to repair the crappy ones samsung release. Now if HTC did a tablet, I think I'd sell my
first born, if I had one, to get it.
Andrew