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[Q] Wifi calling?

does anyone know of an app that allows free wifi calling?...i've seen a bunch of stuff on google about google voice being able to or something like that but i can't figure it out...and when i say "wifi calling", i mean like what t-mobile offers, just using the wifi connection to make calls to any landline or cell phone without needing to add friends or anything like that..
Thanks in advance

nope
I dont think there are any apps for that, ive looked before to no avail

I know that Fring will allow you to call any phone for a per min call, and they have pretty cheap rates. I think in the US 5 bucks gets you 500 min of calls or something like that at .9 cents a min to us land and cell, but you do get a new number.
Also sip in 2.3.3 allows some kind of backward calling with google voice. Look into that if you want to keep your number the same.
Also Sprint offers the airave. Look into that if you have a signal issue at your house.
But WIFI calling is only T-Mobile and will never work for another carrier unless that carrier makes their own version.

GrooveIP
I use it for work, especially when I am almost over my mins or have poor signal
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detcup4evr said:
GrooveIP
I use it for work, especially when I am almost over my mins or have poor signal
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This. My only gripe is there are a few numbers they block (google).

[Q] What if my service gets cut off?

I was just wondering, if my service gets cut off, how functional will my Incredible 2 be. Will it essentially become an ipod touch, and only work over wifi? Or will the wifi even work at all? And if it does work over wifi, what kind of apps can I download to make and receive wifi phone calls?

Tarheel487 said:
I was just wondering, if my service gets cut off, how functional will my Incredible 2 be. Will it essentially become an ipod touch, and only work over wifi? Or will the wifi even work at all? And if it does work over wifi, what kind of apps can I download to make and receive wifi phone calls?
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you can use wifi and the market, browse the web...etc. as far as texting or calls its probably not going to happen. my advice is to work out a payment plan with verizon.

this phone is gsm capable though. could u pop in a straight talk Sim or does that run off another band?
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You could technically use Google voice for texting. As for calls, on an aosp rom that supports wifi calling, you might be able to setup a pbxes account and use SIP internet calling. Lol
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times_infinity said:
You could technically use Google voice for texting. As for calls, on an aosp rom that supports wifi calling, you might be able to setup a pbxes account and use SIP internet calling. Lol
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any more info on this? i have my old ERIS i would like to try using wifi to make calls. i already use gv to text on it, but internet calling would top it off. I do already have my second phone, but ive been trying to make my old eris as funtional as possible.

K3nDroid said:
any more info on this? i have my old ERIS i would like to try using wifi to make calls. i already use gv to text on it, but internet calling would top it off. I do already have my second phone, but ive been trying to make my old eris as funtional as possible.
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I use Skype for work and have both a subscription and a phone number with them. It costs $60 a year for unlimited calling to any number in the US and Canada, and the full Skype app in the Market works fine. On a wifi-only phone, you could definitely use it for general calling.

Should work just fine with WiFi but as for calls I don't know a way to do that over WiFi
(Qik?) Haven't really tried since I have my DInc2
I have an Aria I got when AT&T bought out Alltel in my area, but since AT&T is CRAP I went to Verizon (Never looked back)
I still use the Aria as a "Micro tablet" LOL It works fine over WiFi for music & Games etc. I imagine the DInc2 would behave the same way.
Mostly stays next to my TV for quick Internet access when I need it.

I also use my Eris for internet, torrent, mp3 and Pandora. I hadn't even thought about the fact it could be used as a "home phone".
Sweet.

Can you text over wifi instead of sprint network????

Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.

Text is a voice service it doesn't use data at all. If you can't text making/receiving phone calls must be hard at your home as well. Over wifi Google voice or a similar app from the play store would be your best bet

Yes, you can. The best way to do it would be Google Voice, but there are other apps out there capable of it. The way the carriers handle it (in this case Sprint) is over the network... GSM or CDMA. 3g is always an extension of the mobile voice network... this is why you typically cannot make calls and browse the web while on 3g (although Sprint has found a way to defeat this with the Viper and the Evo LTE, though a second chipset). 4g runs on a different band than 3g does, which means it doesn't affect your calling / text capabilities.
I know that is more info than you asked for. The long and short of it is that you need an app designed to run on Wifi, rather than mobile data, but it is possible.

+1 for google voice. I even use it to text from my Nook which doesn't even have 3g.
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I put mine in airplane mode when I'm home and used voice for everything
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G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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elliwigy said:
G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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I have to use roam control and wifi at my house. I spend most my time in my game room in the basement and.my sprint service sucks down there. But I get perfect signal roaming.

You guys reading?
If you can make a call at home you can text brother
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Rooster85 said:
You guys reading?
If you can make a call at home you can text brother
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Uh, slvrap1 already stated this in so many words above. We're discussing workarounds now. And yes, Google Voice is the easiest way to go if you're using an Android phone.

A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
Simplified version:
REAL SMS is a hack of the control channel between cell phone and tower. It has nothing to do with a data connection so it can not be transmitted via EVDO, WIFI or any other data connection...
Note: When I state REAL SMS that is because services like google voice and others are all VOIP connections that use data connections to transmit messages and phone conversations... There is character limit in VOIP texting but they impose it because you can send it to a REAL SMS and that has character limitations built in..

numus said:
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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musclehead84 said:
Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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That actually just sends the message via the data connection to a server, which then relays that into the carrier's system and is then transmitted to the recievers phone via the 1xRTT control channel... They aren't actually texting a phone, they are sending an instant message to a server that then knows how to convert and relay that into a text message.
Note: I use 1xRTT because we are on a CDMA2000 system... for AT&T, T-Mobile and other GSM it works on their *2g* voice connection... I forgot what it is called at this moment...

Use roam control at home, Verizon probably covers you better. 1x roaming is free other than your minutes

deziking said:
Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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numus said:
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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tt281gt said:
I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Do you happen to be connected to wifi?
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tt281gt said:
Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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More likely when you moved you connected to a less loaded tower, being connected to wifi was just a coincidence.

tt281gt said:
I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Well if you are connected to WiMAX or Wifi.. yes you can make a phone call and surf the web at the same time.. If you are on EVDO, the only way that is possible is if you have 2 cell phones... One to surf the web and one to make calls
tt281gt said:
Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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Your experience is only coincidental... It is physically impossible because the SMS system is built on the 1xRTT control channel... It has nothing to do with the data connection in any way shape or form... It is a hack on the tower identification and protocol transmission channel.
It is like if you take out a frozen piece of meat, turn on the microwave and leave the piece of meat outside the microwave (never put it in the microwave) and claim the microwave is defrosting the meat...

Rooster85 said:
You guys reading?
If you can make a call at home you can text brother
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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elliwigy said:
Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Google voice will only allow you to text over your google voice phone number... If you use google voice to manage your SMS and text using your phone number, it will still send it via SMS (1xRTT control channel) and will fail There is no alternative when you want to use your actual phone number except for utilizing the sprint web tool.. log into your account and send a text message from the web tool.\
Note: I am one of those people that will correct wrong information if i see it, even if it doesn't 100% pertain to the original post. IMHO it is the only way to ensure people don't start repeating the wrong information and exponentially make it harder to teach people the correct answer.

Wifi calling for CM10

Looking to enable wifi calling for CM10. It is obviously there in the default Tmobile stock.

Not possible for CM10 and developers will probably never build it in since most phones/providers don't support wifi calling. Also, unlike phones like my old HTC G2 where wifi calling is a separate app, the SGS2 implements a new version of wifi calling that is built into the ROM.

Bottom line, if you need or want wifi calling, you need to be on a TW ROM, no if's or but's about it.
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Thanks for the info!

Actually, these guys are really misleading you. It's not that it can't or won't be done, it just hasn't been done yet.
There was even a version of T-Mobile WiFi calling that worked great on the HTC HD2 which wasn't even an Android phone, so it's completely false to say "Not possible for CM10", it just hasn't been done yet. They may be correct that it will never be built in, but someone will eventually make a derivative ROM that will have it, or you will have a flashable zip for it.

You can also use voip.
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there are phones out there that have wifi calling on cm9 and cm10. hell they even have it on MIUI

anderroid said:
Looking to enable wifi calling for CM10. It is obviously there in the default Tmobile stock.
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Groove-IP works pretty good

I've seen a lot of people suggesting that we use our Google Voice (GV) number instead of WiFi calling.
If I use GV, and assuming I set it up properly....
When people call my cell number, does it ring when I only have wifi and no cell service?
When I make calls out on WiFi only, so people see my cell number or my GV number?
In what ways is it different than use T-Mobile WiFi calling?

KevlarTheGreat said:
I've seen a lot of people suggesting that we use our Google Voice (GV) number instead of WiFi calling.
If I use GV, and assuming I set it up properly....
When people call my cell number, does it ring when I only have wifi and no cell service?
When I make calls out on WiFi only, so people see my cell number or my GV number?
In what ways is it different than use T-Mobile WiFi calling?
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You can forward you cell number to your google voice number, when you want wifi calling. I have mine set up to start at 6pm till 8am when I'm home. Works perfectly. I use grooveIP free, with a strong wifi signal, calls are very clear.

wt iz wifi calling app??
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zrayhanx said:
wt iz wifi calling app??
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I would be VERY VERY hesitant to flash something made for a different phone, much less different manufacturer. How about you try it and let us know. With screenshots of course.

VoiD_Dweller said:
Groove-IP works pretty good
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I agree, rarely have problems with Groove-IP and Google Voice..
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can someone explain to me why wifi calling is cool?

WiFi calling is "cool" or useful because it allows for using WiFi as cell phone signal. I've worked in buildings which had no cell phone signal, and without WiFi calling, it would take hours for a text message to find the signal to creep through, so it was very useful.
I've tried GrooveIP and GVoice and they were way too buggy to rely on.

DIMENSIONAL said:
WiFi calling is "cool" or useful because it allows for using WiFi as cell phone signal. I've worked in buildings which had no cell phone signal, and without WiFi calling, it would take hours for a text message to find the signal to creep through, so it was very useful.
I've tried GrooveIP and GVoice and they were way too buggy to rely on.
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And to add to this...some of us use our voice in certain areas mostly (like home) and Wi-Fi calling allows us to get a low minute plan since Wi-Fi calling doesn't use minutes.
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blackangst said:
And to add to this...some of us use our voice in certain areas mostly (like home) and Wi-Fi calling allows us to get a low minute plan since Wi-Fi calling doesn't use minutes.
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Actually it can or does use your minutes... I know sounds foolish huh. I've seen some discussions on this in a few different places/sites and I still don't have a 100% clear answer. On the TMOUSA site regarding wifi calling, towards the bottom in grey txt it says:
"Capable device and Wi-Fi connection required. Wi-Fi Calling may decrement plan minutes. Except for UMA devices, device will not transition between Wi-Fi and the wireless network."
I think it's a case of if you're using it excessively they would start to deduct it kind of thing, but who knows. It's probably so they can change their minds in the future without any hassle, for instance, if people are using the heck out of it and they are losing as a result.

By default, it will use your minutes but now they have a free WiFi calling feature that you can add which makes calls made over WiFi free + unlimited, at least that's how it was last time I knew.
I would also really love to see the feature added to cm10 someday... It used to come with cm7 when I used it on my G2.
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Deactivated EVO and WiFi Problems

I upgraded my phone to a Samsung S3 last weekend and kept my HTC EVO 4G as a backup. I was going to use it with Google Voice over WI-Fi, but I haven't been able to connect to my network. Status shows that I am obtaining a IP address from the network, but then disconnects. Is Sprint blocking the connection to a network because it is deactivated?

MightyMart said:
I upgraded my phone to a Samsung S3 last weekend and kept my HTC EVO 4G as a backup. I was going to use it with Google Voice over WI-Fi, but I haven't been able to connect to my network. Status shows that I am obtaining a IP address from the network, but then disconnects. Is Sprint blocking the connection to a network because it is deactivated?
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No, I did the same thing with my evo when I got my sg2 and my net worked just fine. Click on forget that connection and then wipe cache and dalvik and try again, some times the evo gets picky.
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I finally figured it out. For whatever reason, I had to enter the MAC address in my DHCP assignment. I didn't think it was possible for Sprint to block wi-fi access to a deactivated phone.

When trying to setup Google voice i get to the part where voice wants to verify my phone number. Is there a work around or a setting to skip this since my evo is deactivated?

Chirstopher said:
When trying to setup Google voice i get to the part where voice wants to verify my phone number. Is there a work around or a setting to skip this since my evo is deactivated?
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You can add your new number on your new phone and activate with that but only text messaging will work through GV without an active cell number on your Evo. The GV app doesn't make wifi calls. GV simply forwards the call to your cell number when receiving a call and initiates a call from your phone when placing a call. Without an active cell number on your phone you will not be able to make or receive voice calls through GV with your deactivated phone.