I upgraded my phone to a Samsung S3 last weekend and kept my HTC EVO 4G as a backup. I was going to use it with Google Voice over WI-Fi, but I haven't been able to connect to my network. Status shows that I am obtaining a IP address from the network, but then disconnects. Is Sprint blocking the connection to a network because it is deactivated?
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I upgraded my phone to a Samsung S3 last weekend and kept my HTC EVO 4G as a backup. I was going to use it with Google Voice over WI-Fi, but I haven't been able to connect to my network. Status shows that I am obtaining a IP address from the network, but then disconnects. Is Sprint blocking the connection to a network because it is deactivated?
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No, I did the same thing with my evo when I got my sg2 and my net worked just fine. Click on forget that connection and then wipe cache and dalvik and try again, some times the evo gets picky.
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I finally figured it out. For whatever reason, I had to enter the MAC address in my DHCP assignment. I didn't think it was possible for Sprint to block wi-fi access to a deactivated phone.
When trying to setup Google voice i get to the part where voice wants to verify my phone number. Is there a work around or a setting to skip this since my evo is deactivated?
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When trying to setup Google voice i get to the part where voice wants to verify my phone number. Is there a work around or a setting to skip this since my evo is deactivated?
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You can add your new number on your new phone and activate with that but only text messaging will work through GV without an active cell number on your Evo. The GV app doesn't make wifi calls. GV simply forwards the call to your cell number when receiving a call and initiates a call from your phone when placing a call. Without an active cell number on your phone you will not be able to make or receive voice calls through GV with your deactivated phone.
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Does the droid incredible support wifi calling?
i saw that the vibrant has a app for it that did wifi calling which made me think of my droid incredible
so is any1 looking at making a app that will make it do wifi calling with a app of some sort like the vibrant and is there no need for one?
I'm using sense 3.0 and ive played with it enough i think to never see that feature on it before.
For me the only1's to get signal were i live is at&t and us cellular lol.
Look for Groove IP in the Market. Groove uses your Google Voice number to make calls over a data connection--WiFi or mobile data.
If you are running gingerbread there is internet calling built in. Look at the bottom of the settings - call menu. Also sipdroid, csipsimple (i think that how its spelled) and others can do the same. And, as the poster above mentioned, you can setup Google voice to make internet calls for you. I have a decommissioned Droid Eris setup to take and receive calls over wifi, that replaced my home phone because it costs me nothing. Let me know if you want links to threads with more info
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Well i guess i haven't used the rom enough haha. thanks for taking the time to reply to my silly question lol
Do you need to have cellular service on the phone you want to setup IP/Wifi calling on? I also have a decommissioned Eris that I'd like to setup, but when I try Google Voice, it tries to verify my number and fails (as expected on a phone with no service).
It's been a while since I set up a GV number but why are you trying to connect your GV number to a phone? If you do that it will attempt to verify it. Can you just sign up for a number without doing that? If so, once you do just sign in to that GV number with GrooVe IP from decomissioned phone. You don't need and active celluar service on it.
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It's been a while since I set up a GV number but why are you trying to connect your GV number to a phone? If you do that it will attempt to verify it. Can you just sign up for a number without doing that? If so, once you do just sign in to that GV number with GrooVe IP from decomissioned phone. You don't need and active celluar service on it.
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awesome! I'll give that a try, being that I do have a GV number already on my Dinc.
I cant seem to get this working maybe the apps have been updated? Any help would be great.
Groove IP works pretty good for me
Does that work with the htc dailer
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Sprint Gnex currently running AOKP 35 w/ Franco Milestone 3 kernel.
Whenever I am tethering via native or WiFi Tether, incoming phone calls break internet connection. I just came from HTC EVO 4g which had DDTM mode option in menu which prevented this.
I was able to access DDTM mode on Gnex by entering *#*#DATA#*#* and MSL (obtained via a script found elsewhere on this board), but whenever I try to toggle DDTM "on", it immediately reverts to "off".
I have purchased Tasker from Market and am trying to figure out a profile which auto forwards all calls to voicemail during active net connection to prevent interruption but there must be a more elegant/simpler solution.
I have already tried flashing back to stock, rooted ROM, and CM9 ROM with same results, i.e., unable to toggle DDTM on through dialer codes and MSL.
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I found another option in dialer codes which allows me to set as "EVDO only". Will this accomplish uninterrupted tethering?
I know VZW can only handle voice or data at once over 3G, if you are on LTE it can do both voice and data at the same time. I am guessing it is the same for Sprint. Maybe someone else will be able to confirm this.
Um... You can't do simultaneous data and voice over EVDO (3G) on the Sprint Galaxy Nexus. It's not an SVDO device.
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I know VZW can only handle voice or data at once over 3G, if you are on LTE it can do both voice and data at the same time. I am guessing it is the same for Sprint. Maybe someone else will be able to confirm this.
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it is the same for sprint.
if you are on 3g, you can only do 1 or the other. limitation of EVDO.
if you're on LTE (which is not common for sprint), you can do both as the data is using LTE and not CDMA.
I realize it's a limitation of CDMA; hence reason for OP
However, previously being able to toggle into DDTM mode on my OG EVO alleviated problem while tethering on same CDMA network.
I think I have found workaround for my Gnex: *#*#data#*#<EDIT<MSL<Others/More<HDR/1X Selection<EVDO Only Mode.
Kind of a PIA, but until a more elegant solution arrives, it will work to avoid pesky breaks/interrupts in long DLs.
If you're near a wifi hotspot, wifi will continue to d/l also while talking on phone, as that's a different radio. If you're on the road, then that won't help! Unless you buy a second phone, enable that as a wifi hotspot, connect to phone 2 using phone 1 wifi....jk
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it is the same for sprint.
if you are on 3g, you can only do 1 or the other. limitation of EVDO.
if you're on LTE (which is not common for sprint), you can do both as the data is using LTE and not CDMA.
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I find that when I am tethering on LTE data, my data shuts off when a call comes in.
I would love to find a way to stop this. LTE and Voice should be able to be simultaneous.
Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
Text is a voice service it doesn't use data at all. If you can't text making/receiving phone calls must be hard at your home as well. Over wifi Google voice or a similar app from the play store would be your best bet
Yes, you can. The best way to do it would be Google Voice, but there are other apps out there capable of it. The way the carriers handle it (in this case Sprint) is over the network... GSM or CDMA. 3g is always an extension of the mobile voice network... this is why you typically cannot make calls and browse the web while on 3g (although Sprint has found a way to defeat this with the Viper and the Evo LTE, though a second chipset). 4g runs on a different band than 3g does, which means it doesn't affect your calling / text capabilities.
I know that is more info than you asked for. The long and short of it is that you need an app designed to run on Wifi, rather than mobile data, but it is possible.
+1 for google voice. I even use it to text from my Nook which doesn't even have 3g.
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I put mine in airplane mode when I'm home and used voice for everything
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G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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elliwigy said:
G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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I have to use roam control and wifi at my house. I spend most my time in my game room in the basement and.my sprint service sucks down there. But I get perfect signal roaming.
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If you can make a call at home you can text brother
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Uh, slvrap1 already stated this in so many words above. We're discussing workarounds now. And yes, Google Voice is the easiest way to go if you're using an Android phone.
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
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REAL SMS is a hack of the control channel between cell phone and tower. It has nothing to do with a data connection so it can not be transmitted via EVDO, WIFI or any other data connection...
Note: When I state REAL SMS that is because services like google voice and others are all VOIP connections that use data connections to transmit messages and phone conversations... There is character limit in VOIP texting but they impose it because you can send it to a REAL SMS and that has character limitations built in..
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A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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That actually just sends the message via the data connection to a server, which then relays that into the carrier's system and is then transmitted to the recievers phone via the 1xRTT control channel... They aren't actually texting a phone, they are sending an instant message to a server that then knows how to convert and relay that into a text message.
Note: I use 1xRTT because we are on a CDMA2000 system... for AT&T, T-Mobile and other GSM it works on their *2g* voice connection... I forgot what it is called at this moment...
Use roam control at home, Verizon probably covers you better. 1x roaming is free other than your minutes
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Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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numus said:
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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tt281gt said:
I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Do you happen to be connected to wifi?
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tt281gt said:
Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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More likely when you moved you connected to a less loaded tower, being connected to wifi was just a coincidence.
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Well if you are connected to WiMAX or Wifi.. yes you can make a phone call and surf the web at the same time.. If you are on EVDO, the only way that is possible is if you have 2 cell phones... One to surf the web and one to make calls
tt281gt said:
Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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Your experience is only coincidental... It is physically impossible because the SMS system is built on the 1xRTT control channel... It has nothing to do with the data connection in any way shape or form... It is a hack on the tower identification and protocol transmission channel.
It is like if you take out a frozen piece of meat, turn on the microwave and leave the piece of meat outside the microwave (never put it in the microwave) and claim the microwave is defrosting the meat...
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You guys reading?
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Google voice will only allow you to text over your google voice phone number... If you use google voice to manage your SMS and text using your phone number, it will still send it via SMS (1xRTT control channel) and will fail There is no alternative when you want to use your actual phone number except for utilizing the sprint web tool.. log into your account and send a text message from the web tool.\
Note: I am one of those people that will correct wrong information if i see it, even if it doesn't 100% pertain to the original post. IMHO it is the only way to ensure people don't start repeating the wrong information and exponentially make it harder to teach people the correct answer.
I under that Sprint VoLTE may get rolled out next year which may fix this problem.
My hotspot works on my Note 4 but if I receive a phone call or a text message it automatically shuts down and I receive the following error. "Unable to connect to data network, turning off Hotspot"
I know I can't surf and talk on the phone at the same time but is there a way for the hotspot to stay on so when I hang up the phone I can go back to surfing?
This is an major inconvience because I have my Note 4 tied to my home phone system through bluetooth. My Note 4 stays upstairs in a window where I get the best reception in my house. So when the hotspot errors, I have to go upstair and turn it back on.
Any advice?
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Slash
+1 Very annoying indeed. I have the same problem... It's especially annoying because I set up Google voice to answer all my calls but as soon as it rings from hangouts I lose Internet connection and the voip call drops. Then the phone goes to cellular and I have to answer the phone that way... How do I prevent this? Not call screening I hope.
Easy fix - don't use Sprint for your ISP.
Some of us don't have that option.
That's fine, just realize that you're violating the T&C of your contact and leaching the bandwidth for the rest of us. If you do this, don't EVER complain about crappy download speeds on LTE or 3g since it's probably just someone using that tower as their personal pipeline. RIP unlimited data if this continues.
And there is a fix, use the search function.
Pilotmills, do you have a link to the fix?
Or, do you know what words I should search on?
I can't find the fix.
Thanks.
Slash
Hi folk, so I've something strange: when I'm on voice call (make or receive) my network change from 4G to H/H+ and internet doesn't work. When call finishes, network go back to 4G and I'm able again to surf internet.
I called my mobile company, Vodafone IT and they told me it's a phone problem (they don't use VoIP) so I contacted Google assistance but since my phone is magisked they can't help me.
Any idea?
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Hi folk, so I've something strange: when I'm on voice call (make or receive) my network change from 4G to H/H+ and internet doesn't work. When call finishes, network go back to 4G and I'm able again to surf internet.
I called my mobile company, Vodafone IT and they told me it's a phone problem (they don't use VoIP) so I contacted Google assistance but since my phone is magisked they can't help me.
Any idea?
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This is a normal behavior and has nothing to do with your phone or Magisk: If your carrier does not support VoIP, the phone has to switch to 3G or even 2G to make the phone call. After the call has ended, it switches back to LTE.
I know that this can be a PITA, especially when you are supposed to take part in a Skype or Webex meeting with screen sharing and you are sitting in a hotel with bad WIFI. Then you use the phone as WIFI hotspot. As soon as you call in, your web meeting is unreliable.
Been there, done that. There is no way around this, the only thing which works for me is to take part in the call via my notebook instead of calling in via the phone. Then LTE stays - as long as nobody calls you
@BabelHuber thank you for your answer.
But why this happens?
Why isn't possible to have call and 4G/LTE at same time?
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@BabelHuber thank you for your answer.
But why this happens?
Why isn't possible to have call and 4G/LTE at same time?
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Because the LTE standard simply does not support voice calls.
Hence if you don't have VoIP, the phone has to switch to 2G or 3G. The alternative would be not being able to perform voice calls at all!