Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
Text is a voice service it doesn't use data at all. If you can't text making/receiving phone calls must be hard at your home as well. Over wifi Google voice or a similar app from the play store would be your best bet
Yes, you can. The best way to do it would be Google Voice, but there are other apps out there capable of it. The way the carriers handle it (in this case Sprint) is over the network... GSM or CDMA. 3g is always an extension of the mobile voice network... this is why you typically cannot make calls and browse the web while on 3g (although Sprint has found a way to defeat this with the Viper and the Evo LTE, though a second chipset). 4g runs on a different band than 3g does, which means it doesn't affect your calling / text capabilities.
I know that is more info than you asked for. The long and short of it is that you need an app designed to run on Wifi, rather than mobile data, but it is possible.
+1 for google voice. I even use it to text from my Nook which doesn't even have 3g.
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I put mine in airplane mode when I'm home and used voice for everything
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G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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I have to use roam control and wifi at my house. I spend most my time in my game room in the basement and.my sprint service sucks down there. But I get perfect signal roaming.
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Uh, slvrap1 already stated this in so many words above. We're discussing workarounds now. And yes, Google Voice is the easiest way to go if you're using an Android phone.
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
Simplified version:
REAL SMS is a hack of the control channel between cell phone and tower. It has nothing to do with a data connection so it can not be transmitted via EVDO, WIFI or any other data connection...
Note: When I state REAL SMS that is because services like google voice and others are all VOIP connections that use data connections to transmit messages and phone conversations... There is character limit in VOIP texting but they impose it because you can send it to a REAL SMS and that has character limitations built in..
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A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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That actually just sends the message via the data connection to a server, which then relays that into the carrier's system and is then transmitted to the recievers phone via the 1xRTT control channel... They aren't actually texting a phone, they are sending an instant message to a server that then knows how to convert and relay that into a text message.
Note: I use 1xRTT because we are on a CDMA2000 system... for AT&T, T-Mobile and other GSM it works on their *2g* voice connection... I forgot what it is called at this moment...
Use roam control at home, Verizon probably covers you better. 1x roaming is free other than your minutes
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Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Do you happen to be connected to wifi?
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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More likely when you moved you connected to a less loaded tower, being connected to wifi was just a coincidence.
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Well if you are connected to WiMAX or Wifi.. yes you can make a phone call and surf the web at the same time.. If you are on EVDO, the only way that is possible is if you have 2 cell phones... One to surf the web and one to make calls
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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Your experience is only coincidental... It is physically impossible because the SMS system is built on the 1xRTT control channel... It has nothing to do with the data connection in any way shape or form... It is a hack on the tower identification and protocol transmission channel.
It is like if you take out a frozen piece of meat, turn on the microwave and leave the piece of meat outside the microwave (never put it in the microwave) and claim the microwave is defrosting the meat...
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Google voice will only allow you to text over your google voice phone number... If you use google voice to manage your SMS and text using your phone number, it will still send it via SMS (1xRTT control channel) and will fail There is no alternative when you want to use your actual phone number except for utilizing the sprint web tool.. log into your account and send a text message from the web tool.\
Note: I am one of those people that will correct wrong information if i see it, even if it doesn't 100% pertain to the original post. IMHO it is the only way to ensure people don't start repeating the wrong information and exponentially make it harder to teach people the correct answer.
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Is this phone supposed to be able to send mms to other android phones? my wife tries and it has "generic network failure" to my nexus one but then it is able to send the same mms to my friends iphone. i can receive her sms though.
Also, my nexus CANT send mms to my same friends iphone OR my wife's slide...
Maybe if you dont have a data plan like me.
I can not send mms bc I do not have a data plan.
If you do have a data plan then I don't know.
I have to do the work around of sending an email to the other persons phone or using google voice.
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Is this phone supposed to be able to send mms to other android phones? my wife tries and it has "generic network failure" to my nexus one but then it is able to send the same mms to my friends iphone. i can receive her sms though.
Also, my nexus CANT send mms to my same friends iphone OR my wife's slide...
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I can send MMS from my slide pretty easily. Sent 3 the other day to my friend.
I keep getting a "Generic Network Failure" on my Slide. T-Mo rep gave me a work-around to try in the MMS network settings. That didn't work, so they are sending me a new phone.
Are you on wifi while trying this? If so, check this thread.
Quick question...
when you try to send the mms... do you chose your recipient by tapping the lil button and then selecting the person's name...
or
do you tap the text entry box and keyboard in your recipient's name and select them from the drop down list?
I had serious issues using the first method... I would get the same error you got, as well as one called "Permenant failure". the second methos works fine for me tho...
I worked with a tech named Larisa (who sounded very hot... but that's off topic ) who had me try everything... and it wasn't until I tried using the second method for selecting my recipient did I realize the problem.
Is there any fix for mms yet?
Is it possible that froyo fixes this issue? Just wondering....
Try steps 1-2 on this to get mms working without a data plan, worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718762
mms will not send if you have wifi on.
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hammer4203 said:
mms will not send if you have wifi on.
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Wont send no matter what. Wifi on OR off!! BIG PAIN IN THE ASS.
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Wont send no matter what. Wifi on OR off!! BIG PAIN IN THE ASS.
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Yep. And I get ****ty reception on this, my signal bounces all over the place. I just unlocked mine and it has gone from 3 bars of 3G to 1 bar of 3G and now I am bouncing between 1 and 2 bars on EDGE. This thing has problems sending a regular SMS sometimes. I'll have 3 bars on EDGE and get an "Unable to send after multiple attempts. Retrying." error. So T-Mo is sending me ANOTHER (this will be the THIRD) phone. About to just say **** this phone.
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Yep. And I get ****ty reception on this, my signal bounces all over the place. I just unlocked mine and it has gone from 3 bars of 3G to 1 bar of 3G and now I am bouncing between 1 and 2 bars on EDGE. This thing has problems sending a regular SMS sometimes. I'll have 3 bars on EDGE and get an "Unable to send after multiple attempts. Retrying." error. So T-Mo is sending me ANOTHER (this will be the THIRD) phone. About to just say **** this phone.
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i have this problem as well. but i deal with it after 2 auto retries it gets sent out.
also got the generic network error but only while texting google voice main number and the market app that allows free txt through data
Whenever I make a phone call, I notice my 3G signal drops....when I back out of the phone app and go to internet, the page won't load up. It must have happened when I went on a Rom flashing spree and messed it up. I used to be able to look up numbers to places for the person talking to me over the phone. Has this happened to any of you and how do I fix this problem?
CDMA, more specifically, Verizon and Sprint CDMA, doesn't have the ability to use data when on a call.
SDMA [which Verizon is reportedly working on] will.
(Although I fail to see the point because these companies SHOULD be moving to entirely true 4g networks which are all voip)
I've never been able to do both at the same time. I heard that simultaneous Internet while on a call is a feature of 4g. But I'm not in 4g coverage.
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Hmm, maybe I was on a 4G connection. It was awhile ago...but I know I was able to do it. Can't test it since I'm on virus' gengersense Rom at the moment
Its not possible to call and be on the net at the same time, as they use the same radio. You need to be connected via 4G or wifi to place a call and surf the internet, ect at the same time.
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Its not possible to call and be on the net at the same time, as they use the same radio. You need to be connected via 4G or wifi to place a call and surf the internet, ect at the same time.
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QFT i was about to write the same thing
does anyone know of an app that allows free wifi calling?...i've seen a bunch of stuff on google about google voice being able to or something like that but i can't figure it out...and when i say "wifi calling", i mean like what t-mobile offers, just using the wifi connection to make calls to any landline or cell phone without needing to add friends or anything like that..
Thanks in advance
nope
I dont think there are any apps for that, ive looked before to no avail
I know that Fring will allow you to call any phone for a per min call, and they have pretty cheap rates. I think in the US 5 bucks gets you 500 min of calls or something like that at .9 cents a min to us land and cell, but you do get a new number.
Also sip in 2.3.3 allows some kind of backward calling with google voice. Look into that if you want to keep your number the same.
Also Sprint offers the airave. Look into that if you have a signal issue at your house.
But WIFI calling is only T-Mobile and will never work for another carrier unless that carrier makes their own version.
GrooveIP
I use it for work, especially when I am almost over my mins or have poor signal
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detcup4evr said:
GrooveIP
I use it for work, especially when I am almost over my mins or have poor signal
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This. My only gripe is there are a few numbers they block (google).
I was just wondering, if my service gets cut off, how functional will my Incredible 2 be. Will it essentially become an ipod touch, and only work over wifi? Or will the wifi even work at all? And if it does work over wifi, what kind of apps can I download to make and receive wifi phone calls?
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I was just wondering, if my service gets cut off, how functional will my Incredible 2 be. Will it essentially become an ipod touch, and only work over wifi? Or will the wifi even work at all? And if it does work over wifi, what kind of apps can I download to make and receive wifi phone calls?
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you can use wifi and the market, browse the web...etc. as far as texting or calls its probably not going to happen. my advice is to work out a payment plan with verizon.
this phone is gsm capable though. could u pop in a straight talk Sim or does that run off another band?
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You could technically use Google voice for texting. As for calls, on an aosp rom that supports wifi calling, you might be able to setup a pbxes account and use SIP internet calling. Lol
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You could technically use Google voice for texting. As for calls, on an aosp rom that supports wifi calling, you might be able to setup a pbxes account and use SIP internet calling. Lol
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any more info on this? i have my old ERIS i would like to try using wifi to make calls. i already use gv to text on it, but internet calling would top it off. I do already have my second phone, but ive been trying to make my old eris as funtional as possible.
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any more info on this? i have my old ERIS i would like to try using wifi to make calls. i already use gv to text on it, but internet calling would top it off. I do already have my second phone, but ive been trying to make my old eris as funtional as possible.
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I use Skype for work and have both a subscription and a phone number with them. It costs $60 a year for unlimited calling to any number in the US and Canada, and the full Skype app in the Market works fine. On a wifi-only phone, you could definitely use it for general calling.
Should work just fine with WiFi but as for calls I don't know a way to do that over WiFi
(Qik?) Haven't really tried since I have my DInc2
I have an Aria I got when AT&T bought out Alltel in my area, but since AT&T is CRAP I went to Verizon (Never looked back)
I still use the Aria as a "Micro tablet" LOL It works fine over WiFi for music & Games etc. I imagine the DInc2 would behave the same way.
Mostly stays next to my TV for quick Internet access when I need it.
I also use my Eris for internet, torrent, mp3 and Pandora. I hadn't even thought about the fact it could be used as a "home phone".
Sweet.
Is there an app that I can download somewhere or is this something that someone could throw together for use with the Nexus?
I work right outside of Tmobile service area. I usually get about a bar or 2, on a good day. I rarely ever use the phone, didnt even realize these things could make calls anymore!
Anywho, I had an Amaze which had wifi calling and the call quality would be crystal clear over wifi calling and did wonders for saving battery.
Any help would be much appreciated!
I was disappointed to find out also that it was unavailable on the GNex and from what I read on it it's near impossible to port it over.
An alternative may be a combo of Google Voice & Groove IP, I use that combo on my Moto Xoom Tablet and it work fine.
OK so maybe I don't understand how groove IP works....but when I make a call over wifi the phone is still looking for a mobile signal. While I was in the call the phone showed one bar or service. So at that point isn't the lack of cellular signal still going to eat away at my battery?
I suppose grove is made more for a situation where you have no service at all? I tried putting the phone in airplane mode and make a call that way which does work.....but then your screwed with the texts......ugh....FML! Ha.
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OK so maybe I don't understand how groove IP works....but when I make a call over wifi the phone is still looking for a mobile signal. While I was in the call the phone showed one bar or service. So at that point isn't the lack of cellular signal still going to eat away at my battery?
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Heres a screenshot showing one bar even when I am on wifi within a call over groove. If i remember correctly when wifi calling was being used on the Amaze, the mobile signal would be turned off completely.
Hopefully with the One S out now we'll be able to get wifi calling? Anyone heard any progress on that?
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Hopefully with the One S out now we'll be able to get wifi calling? Anyone heard any progress on that?
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Hopefully we've got something coming....if so my battery will last for ages!
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Download "Viber". This is an OTA/WIFI calling app. Also dl "phone + WIFI on/off" widget. Both available in the market.
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Viber requires both parties to have the app installed if I'm not mistaken. I think that is unrealistic.
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wifi was never crystal clear on the t989
that is why we left tmobile it would cut out swell groove should work fine why dont you disable data then turn wifi on and link up tjat way it will work like a charm i promise
I'm not sure I follow you too well. I'm still a noob. Would you care to elaborate on that.
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Try the Vonage app. You can make calls over Wifi and data the other person does not need to have the Vonage app to receive calls. It's only good for making outbound calls on Wifi or data. (Doesn't count against mins either) If you receive a call it goes through regular cell service and bucket of mins. You can make calls to any where in the US for free. Right now you can use up to 3,000 mins a month for free to make calls. (Promo with no end date set)
But in order to receive calls the radio would have to be left on or else they will go directly to voicemail right. Which means I would have to leave the radio on.....so once again I would have low reception leading to eating up better. But anyways I think you maybe mistaken....vonage app says the other person must have the app. FML! Ha.
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