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Just started using my Desire last night! Feeling good.
However...
Was just on a call, tried to use the Android Marketplace. Couldn't.
Got curious, and tried to use Google Maps mid call. Couldn't.
Tried to use the internet during the call. Couldn't.
Now, I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and have just come from a Nokia E71. With my E71 I could make a call and use Google Maps.
Am I missing something or is this bit of multitasking somehow not possible???
Please tell me I'm missing something!
Cleargrey said:
Just started using my Desire last night! Feeling good.
However...
Was just on a call, tried to use the Android Marketplace. Couldn't.
Got curious, and tried to use Google Maps mid call. Couldn't.
Tried to use the internet during the call. Couldn't.
Now, I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and have just come from a Nokia E71. With my E71 I could make a call and use Google Maps.
Am I missing something or is this bit of multitasking somehow not possible???
Please tell me I'm missing something!
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A lot of carriers don't currently support simultaneous data and voice. For example, I have Sprint and it has no support for this - very annoying.
AT&T is the only one I'm personally aware that supports both talking and using data at the same time.
If it doesn't work for you, you're out of luck with your carrier.
Archon810 said:
A lot of carriers don't currently support simultaneous data and voice. For example, I have Sprint and it has no support for this - very annoying.
AT&T is the only one I'm personally aware that supports both talking and using data at the same time.
If it doesn't work for you, you're out of luck with your carrier.
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Sprint is a CDMA network, and most CDMA networks don't currently support simultaneous voice and data.
Most GSM networks do support this when you have a 3G connection. The voice call is routed over 2G and the data over 3G. If your data connection drops down to GPRS or EDGE, you will lose data connectivity because most networks do not support simultaneous voice and data over 2G, though I'm told that they can be set up to do so, so I guess it's more down to bandwidth.
Regards,
Dave
I know that Sprint's CDMA has an issue with simultaneous data and voice. Which suck. And I know they are making good attempts to sort this out for the EVO, which is good.
But again, I've been doing this fine on my E71. The only thing I can think of, in relation to Dave's comments, is that for some reason, because the Desire can suck up more data, T-mobile have restricted it. Which would suprise me because, as Dave said, simultaneous voice and data is a feature of most GSM networks and has been for a while.
I have just tested that and it's true - the phone doesn't have simultaneous data and voice connection
Now normally I don't need that because if I talk, I talk and not browse the web, but even my freaking G1 could do both things at the same time. What the heck? It must be something HTC did.
One more reason to eagerly wait for root...
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
ephumuris said:
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
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It's a big deal because:
1. HTC (or T-Mobile) has obviously done something to disable it because Android with GSM should have such functionality;
2. Older Android phones and even some "dumbphones" have that functionality
3. No point in browsing market while talking, but what about looking up maps while talking? - That was even one of G1's selling points.
I have often been on a call and used the internet or searched Maps. So it's something that I am quite used to doing.
Though I thought I'd get an answer straight from the horses mouth and have emailed HTC support just now. I'm hoping they give me good news...
False alarm. This only happens on GPRS, which is normal. Simultaneous data and voice connection can only happen on 3G as explained in Android Forums.
and of course correctly explained by Dave in post #3 here.
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and of course correctly explained by Dave in post #3 here.
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Missed that. Sorry
ephumuris said:
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
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Kind of tired of explaining this one but here are the 2 use cases:
- you're talking with someone on the phone and they ask you for directions, look something up on the internet, see if you received their email, etc, etc
- and even more importantly, when my rooted phone acts as a WiFi access point with android-wifi-tether and someone calls me, my freaking Inet disappears until I'm off the phone. This is the more annoying of the 2 use cases.
Well, this was their reply:
"If you start the call being connected through 2G, then yes the internet will then work. But as soon as the signal goes over to 3G then the internet connection and usuage will be turned off.
When it comes to wifi, if you are in a call and you are connected to wifi, then you should be able to surf.
Hope this answers your questions.
Thank you for contacting HTC. "
I did get concerned for a second. I've just tried the wifi and call which worked. And I just tried a call again, with wifi turned off and it worked, even though it didn't work before.
I just hope it routes voice and data in a way that doesn't trip me up in the future. I.e. voice over 2G if I'm trying to access data.
So yes, false alarm.
And funnily enough I just now got a call from Carphonewarehouse asking me if I'm having a problem sending texts as some Desires do indeed have a software fault where they have no Service Centre number for messages. For once, I've skipped the faulty units!
Cheers guys. Sorry scare anyone.
lol.
Whoever it was at HTC got their 2G and 3G mixed up.
what they meant to say was if it goes down to 2G then it'll stop.
You'll be ok in general, as long as you have 3G signal wherever you are. If you've only got 2G, you'll have to hang up, find out and then call back!
the SMSC shouldn't be a problem though, just program it in manually. Not worth sending a phone back for unless it fails then as well.
Even if I'm on 3G/HSPA, when I call someone, as soon as the call is connected, my data connection disappears (only shows bars, no G, 3G, or H) and I can't browse the web or use maps while in-call :-/
ok, well that's not right. The bars should only disappear if you turn the mobile data off. it should not get turned off by a call. Even if i try it when in G, the bars stay showing, just no data comes till i hang up the call.
If the bars are disappearing, something else is going on.
It could be a local network issue. maybe it's an old transmitter that missed an update or something...?could possibly be a full tower.
I know that a few years ago, the towers would kick off data connections to allow more airtime for voice calls which have priority, but i don't know if that's still relevant on 3G.
This was a hot discussion back when the Hero came out as well.
In the end I think it comes down to the network of your carrier. Some people report they can internet and call at the same time. Others say when they are internetting on their phone, a call is directly forwarded to their voicemail etc.
I'm afraid it's a combination between how your carrier configures their network and on what connection you are on (3g, 2g etc).
Yeah it's false alarm no #2 -- must be a spotty 3G at my house. I went to the city centre and tried it there -- worked like a charm.
Though it's a bit weird as 3G speed is not bad at all at my house, but when I call, data connection goes off :-/
Maybe at the city center you got more cells in range than in your house. Means your carrier got more available bandwith
I think reception gets spotty. Sometimes voice and data works, sometimes it doesn't. At home in my bedroom I can get H connection, 20 meters away I can't.
I think the important thing is that the phone is capable. The rest is just pinning down exactly the situation that we want to avoid.
I love the phone and having the hardest time resisting turning the phone back in. I'm on my 2nd S3 and my third Sim card. Everything appears to be going well but I noticed that when my phone is in WiFi calling mode, incoming calls go straight to voice mail. I don't get an alert or anything. If they leave a voicemail, I get that. I searched other phones that have had this issue not just the S3. I am running stock OS but I am rooted.
Can anyone else verify that there incoming calls are working on Wifi Calling ? Any ideas on what I could try ? outgoing calls work fine.
EDIT: Sometimes calls go through, sometimes it doesn't. When it does go through, I can't swipe the green button to answer. It goes through the swipe motion but nothing happens. When I am off of WiFi calling, I can receive calls correctly and I can properly swipe to answer them
soljaofjesus said:
I love the phone and having the hardest time resisting turning the phone back in. I'm on my 2nd S3 and my third Sim card. Everything appears to be going well but I noticed that when my phone is in WiFi calling mode, incoming calls go straight to voice mail. I don't get an alert or anything. If they leave a voicemail, I get that. I searched other phones that have had this issue not just the S3. I am running stock OS but I am rooted.
Can anyone else verify that there incoming calls are working on Wifi Calling ? Any ideas on what I could try ? outgoing calls work fine.
EDIT: Sometimes calls go through, sometimes it doesn't. When it does go through, I can't swipe the green button to answer. It goes through the swipe motion but nothing happens. When I am off of WiFi calling, I can receive calls correctly and I can properly swipe to answer them
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Ah-ha, you just solved a mystery for me! I like to have my phone automatically connect to any wifi in my usual hangouts to save data. I kept wondering why I was missing calls without hearing my ringtone. I have a theory on what is happening. Back on my old Vibrant, wifi-calling could not work on slower networks. I could get it to initialize but never could it actually make a call. I noticed this when up in the mountains at a lodge that had very slow internet. Maybe it's the same issue? Hopefully others will chime in.
Not sure if this a slow network issue or and ICS issue. My S3 does this also and is frustrating since I auto connect to wifi at home and work. Keep missing damn calls. My S2 started doing the same thing when I updated from GB to ICS. Maybe its a Samsung and ICS thing now that I think about it because the wife and kids all run ICS on HTC Amaze without issue.
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Disappointing. Are you on T-mobile? (I expect yes as this, to my understanding, is the only US network licensed to use wifi calling?)
I am thinking of buying an S3 but I have to have wifi calling working on UK operator orange.
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I think most of these threads are locked because XDA is trying to separate them all. Anyways, this is the only way I could respond. Since my first post, I have had more positive experiences with wifi-calling. I think it may be a little of both, slow connection and this newer implementation. On a slow connection it definitely wont work correctly which is what I would expect. What I mean is you can't successfully answer or make a call as the phone app will just hang. Going straight to Voicemail is another mystery altogether. I have 4g internet at home so there is no reason I can think of for that to happen. But like I said since my first post I have successfully made and answered several calls from home using wifi-calling and even a few from a location that had decent internet. Call quality was decent for what it is.
Guys, take a look at this thread. It concerns wifi signal dropping and re-enabling. That would certainly explain why some of the calls made to me when I was at home on wifi went to Voicemail even though I have 4g. I did notice some of this last week.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790187
Not sure if this a slow network issue or and ICS issue. My S3 does this also and is frustrating since I auto connect to wifi at home and work. Keep missing damn calls. My S2 started doing the same thing when I updated from GB to ICS. Maybe its a Samsung and ICS thing now that I think about it because the wife and kids all run ICS on HTC Amaze without issue.
Wifi Calling
sflagg73 said:
Not sure if this a slow network issue or and ICS issue. My S3 does this also and is frustrating since I auto connect to wifi at home and work. Keep missing damn calls. My S2 started doing the same thing when I updated from GB to ICS. Maybe its a Samsung and ICS thing now that I think about it because the wife and kids all run ICS on HTC Amaze without issue.
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Disappointing. Are you on T-mobile? (I expect yes as this, to my understanding, is the only US network licensed to use wifi calling?)
I am thinking of buying an S3 but I have to have wifi calling working on UK operator orange.
This happens on sprint phones as well...
I see this thread is open again. My experiences with wifi-calling have bore out what I thought: A weak signal will cause problems. I only wish that every call went to voicemail. What happens often with me is that wifi-calling will partially work, as in I can answer a call but the person can't hear me at all and I may catch one or two words from them. If they terminate the call, the phone app is fine, but if I terminate the call, the phone app hangs and freezes everything! Today it was so bad I had to pull the battery and reboot. Maybe wifi calls going to voicemail is an imperfect function that Samsung or rather T-Mobile built into the app. It kinda makes sense as this app could never complete a wifi call if you were connected to slow internet when it was a separate app. In any case I would rather have my wifi calls go straight to voicemail (and get a pop-up notification) than have the app try to work but wind up hanging my phone. What do you guys think?
I don't know about slow networks. I've already exchanged one T-Mobile S III because of Wi-Fi calling problems. My replacement works much better on my work network than it does on my home network and it is much, much slower than my home network is.
dcugooner said:
I don't know about slow networks. I've already exchanged one T-Mobile S III because of Wi-Fi calling problems. My replacement works much better on my work network than it does on my home network and it is much, much slower than my home network is.
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This isn't particularly good news for me. If it isn't software problem that manifests when coupled with a slow network then a future update won't fix it. That's what I was hoping the problem would turn out to be. If its hardware, then the time I have to do something about it is limited as I dropped my first phone and the replacement has a limited warranty, I think. Plus, I've paid to have invisi-shield placed on the front and back and would have to eat that cost if I get another replacement.
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I have this issue and am at my wits end to resolve it. Wifi calling is a major feature that worked fine(except echo) with my Vibrant. However, nothing I have tried will fix my ability to answer calls on WiFi. I have the SIM from the GS3 box. My E911 address exists since my bb8900. WiFi Power Save is off. All routers I use, Linksys E4200 and Linksys WNR1000, Linksys 614. Wireless N and G. T-mo CS could not help. I understand that the WiFi calling changed from UMA to IMS. No separate app. GS2 users with same issue. Anyone with a clue? Please help.
IrieBro said:
I have this issue and am at my wits end to resolve it. Wifi calling is a major feature that worked fine(except echo) with my Vibrant. However, nothing I have tried will fix my ability to answer calls on WiFi. I have the SIM from the GS3 box. My E911 address exists since my bb8900. WiFi Power Save is off. All routers I use, Linksys E4200 and Linksys WNR1000, Linksys 614. Wireless N and G. T-mo CS could not help. I understand that the WiFi calling changed from UMA to IMS. No separate app. GS2 users with same issue. Anyone with a clue? Please help.
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how did you turn off the wifi power save?
I experience the bad quality calls on wifi, at my workplace it is perfect, but at my home, its terrible.
my home network is faster than my workplace.
I think this is something to do with the firewall as well.
and I couldn't find the way to turn off firewall on the dam verizon fios actionnet router.
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you can also try to broadcast the wifi on channel 3 only, that helped me in my case.
WPSM
There is a link earlier in this thread to another XDA thread. Phone app --> *#0011# --> menu button --> WiFi--> Press WPSM On/Off button.
My GS3 would drop a WiFi signal 3 inches from the router at work and 3 feet from the router at home. At least THAT is fixed now. However, I don't seem to get the same WiFi signal range as my Vibrant did using the same routers Trying the channel 3. I do have a few setting set to auto at least on my home router.
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how did you turn off the wifi power save?
I experience the bad quality calls on wifi, at my workplace it is perfect, but at my home, its terrible.
my home network is faster than my workplace.
I think this is something to do with the firewall as well.
and I couldn't find the way to turn off firewall on the dam verizon fios actionnet router.
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you can also try to broadcast the wifi on channel 3 only, that helped me in my case.
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when my wifi calling was giving me issues i had to go on the tmobile site and set my area for 911 calls for the wifi calling. after that it worked flawlessly
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when my wifi calling was giving me issues i had to go on the tmobile site and set my area for 911 calls for the wifi calling. after that it worked flawlessly
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Yes, that's required, but not the underlying issue of the thread.
I've had wifi calling weirdness too. I called my sisters Verizon cell and there was no tone but after xx seconds it got her voicemail. When I call my phone on my house phone (Comcast) my phone rings but there's no tone on the house phone!
I NEVER get a ring. Just someone picks up our voicemail does.
Sent from my SGS3 Stock Rooted & Odexed
I love this thing!
I've had my phone for just over a month now, and I got a text from T-mobile saying that my credit card was charged and my account is good for another month, blah blah blah... However, I've received this message at least 40 times since the plan renewed on Friday the 11th.
I've done some searching around and found this thread on the Tmobile forums:
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86838?start=0&tstart=0
It sounds like Tmobile support will give the standard "tun off your phone, take out the battery, etc" and "do a factory restore" responses, that apparently don't fix the problem. Others have posted that it may be a Wifi-calling issue, but turning off Wifi/Wifi-calling only helps temporarily.
So I'm wondering if anyone here has had the issue and knows a solution that works. I'm on stock, unrooted and at he latest software update, 20e.
Thanks!
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I've had my phone for just over a month now, and I got a text from T-mobile saying that my credit card was charged and my account is good for another month, blah blah blah... However, I've received this message at least 40 times since the plan renewed on Friday the 11th.
I've done some searching around and found this thread on the Tmobile forums:
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86838?start=0&tstart=0
It sounds like Tmobile support will give the standard "tun off your phone, take out the battery, etc" and "do a factory restore" responses, that apparently don't fix the problem. Others have posted that it may be a Wifi-calling issue, but turning off Wifi/Wifi-calling only helps temporarily.
So I'm wondering if anyone here has had the issue and knows a solution that works. I'm on stock, unrooted and at he latest software update, 20e.
Thanks!
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I had this problem with TMO a few months ago. Forums seemed to indicate that calling support might help, but I just waited it out and it fixed itself in a few days. Since then, I've only seen one duplicate message.
scoppola said:
I had this problem with TMO a few months ago. Forums seemed to indicate that calling support might help, but I just waited it out and it fixed itself in a few days. Since then, I've only seen one duplicate message.
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Thanks for the quick response. So do you use Wifi Calling a lot by chance? Were the dupes happening when you were on Wifi?
Some have theorized that it's caused because there isn't a "received" signal being sent back to the sender when on wifi calling, so the messages get sent again and again until that signal is received. And that turning off Wifi (or Wifi Calling) for a while will let this signal go through.
I haven't had a chance to try this, as I get very poor reception at both home and work, so Wifi Calling is a necessity.
I'm going to answer my own question since I think I've figured things out, although I don't really have a solution for my problems...
Basically, whenever I use Wifi Calling, then go off of Wifi, I get no voice service even though I have plenty of bars of signal and can use the data connection. This means I can't make/receive calls or send/receive texts. There's no 100% method that fixes this issue, sometimes I can just toggle the Data connection on and off, other times I have to reboot the phone.
Since I've had Wifi Calling on for the last week or so, I haven't gotten out on T-mobiles voice network. And for whatever reason as I stated above, texts coming in on Wifi Calling will continue to come in as duplicates because the sender isn't getting a "received" signal back. (This is still just a theory, but I've sort of proven it.) Yesterday I turned of Wifi Calling, restarted my phone and left Wifi Calling off. I got one more copy of the text message I had already received 50 times or so, and that was it, no more dupes.
So my main issue is still that my phone doesn't switch back to T-mobile's network fully after being on Wifi Calling. If it did so, the duplicate texts wouldn't be as much of an issue because they'd go away once I was on the mobile network.
TLDR:
It seems that Wifi Calling is stopping my phone from switching back to the Tmobile network when I'm out of range of wifi, and the duplicate texts are caused by Wifi Calling.
If anyone has a solution to this issue, please let me know. Thanks!
I am unable to receive calls and texts when my phone is connected to wifi network. The call will go to voicemail and I won't receive any notification even when the phone's screen is on. Once I turn off the wifi, voicemails, and text will come in rapid succession.
If I again turn on the wifi, everything will work fine for next 20-30mins and then the same problem will come back.
I am on OOS 5.1.1 not rooted. My network is t-mobile. I have done a factory reset and explored multiple options on the web.
Users reported similar problems with previous versions of Oneplus.
My wife has one plus 5 and she is also having the same problem.
Any solution will be appreciated.
Same issue here
Rooted, OOS 5.1.2, T-Mobile.
I guess no one anywhere in the op5/t community has this issue except 3 of us? Anyone? Can anyone help?
@DragonMessor Hey everyone on T-mobile with this issue. I solved it. I had to go into the T-mobile app and then click the "more" tab. Go to address and then check the box that says "make this the e911 address for all lines".
That will lock in the VoWifi in and allow texts over wifi. My texts over wifi now work with no cell signal and even with wifi off. I am using google messages and I don't even have the option for advanced messaging in the app. Hopefully the OP gets this if he didn't move on to another phone yet and hopefully it helps someone. ?
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Hi folk, so I've something strange: when I'm on voice call (make or receive) my network change from 4G to H/H+ and internet doesn't work. When call finishes, network go back to 4G and I'm able again to surf internet.
I called my mobile company, Vodafone IT and they told me it's a phone problem (they don't use VoIP) so I contacted Google assistance but since my phone is magisked they can't help me.
Any idea?
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Hi folk, so I've something strange: when I'm on voice call (make or receive) my network change from 4G to H/H+ and internet doesn't work. When call finishes, network go back to 4G and I'm able again to surf internet.
I called my mobile company, Vodafone IT and they told me it's a phone problem (they don't use VoIP) so I contacted Google assistance but since my phone is magisked they can't help me.
Any idea?
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This is a normal behavior and has nothing to do with your phone or Magisk: If your carrier does not support VoIP, the phone has to switch to 3G or even 2G to make the phone call. After the call has ended, it switches back to LTE.
I know that this can be a PITA, especially when you are supposed to take part in a Skype or Webex meeting with screen sharing and you are sitting in a hotel with bad WIFI. Then you use the phone as WIFI hotspot. As soon as you call in, your web meeting is unreliable.
Been there, done that. There is no way around this, the only thing which works for me is to take part in the call via my notebook instead of calling in via the phone. Then LTE stays - as long as nobody calls you
@BabelHuber thank you for your answer.
But why this happens?
Why isn't possible to have call and 4G/LTE at same time?
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@BabelHuber thank you for your answer.
But why this happens?
Why isn't possible to have call and 4G/LTE at same time?
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Because the LTE standard simply does not support voice calls.
Hence if you don't have VoIP, the phone has to switch to 2G or 3G. The alternative would be not being able to perform voice calls at all!