Two nandroid problems, need help - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First issue is that for some reason, my wimax.img created when making a nandroid backup with ra 2.3 is only like 2,000 kb or a little larger. I understand from a previous post that wimax images are usually around the 12,000kb mark. When I backup using Clockwork, the resulting wimax.img is just over 12,000kb leading me to believe it is a good backup. This all came to issue a month or so ago when I thought my keys were gone. I ended up finding a few old backups on my pc, one nandroid and one clockwork, both of which contained the wimax image. However, when I nandroid restore the nandroid image, key checker said my keys were present but I wasn't able to connect to 4g. I then restored the clockwork backup and was able to connect to 4g right away. After further discovery in the backup folders, I found the nandroid wimax image to be just over 2,000kb while the clockwork image was over 12,000. I have tried to reflash ra recovery but it still only creates a 2,000kb wimax image. What is wrong????
The second part of the problem is that when I try to switch to clockwork from Rom Manager, it won't do it. It is stuck in RA!! Therefore, I cannot get into clockwork to restore any of the images I backed up that way. I had this issue in the past only I was stuck in Clockwork and couldn't get into RA. At that time, someone sent me a PC36100.zip (of RA recovery flash) which I put onto the root of my sd and flashed in bootloader, which allowed me to access RA recovery again. Why does it get stuck?? And, does someone have clockwork in a pc36100.zip format I can boot from?
Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!

ok heres the pc36img for clockwordmod that you flash from hboot/fastboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=575257&d=1303478367

and for first issue try falshing an older recovery of amon ra then the newest amon ra 2.3

Great Jadden, thanks for the help. Do you by any chance have a zip of an older version of RA as well? What adverse effects will there be by downgrading? Can I recover a backup made in 2.3 with say 1.8? Are they 100% compatible?

By the way, is there any way to tell how big the wimax image is that the phone is currently operating on without making a backup of it? Some type of terminal prompts or something?

Sorry I don't have an older version of Amon-Ra and I don't know of any terminal promts either

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[Q]stock reflash complete - bootloader cycling

I was able to successfully flash my stock nandroid through amon ra. But now every time i boot my evo it keeps going back to boot loader. Am i in trouble?
I had this happen to me, and what I was able to do is this: I pulled the battery, then booted into recovery. I wiped data/cache/dalvik. I then flashed one of my nandroids, and it booted up just fine after that. Do you have more than one nandroid? You stated that you are using amon RA, did you use amon
RA to create your nandroid backup? If you used clockwork to create the backup, you need to use clockwork to flash the backup, they are not interchangeable. Hopefully this was helpful to you.
After going about... i think it has to do with the hboot being .76 insted of .79 which is what is suppose to be for 2.2. Or am i wrong? - and every time i try to do the hboot update it keeps telling me an error about a update file, cant figure it out.
Yes i have other nandroid's but, i'm really wanting to get some stuff back from my original stock 2.2. I try doing a titanium backup, but it just kept telling me i wasnt root, but i am.
FIXED!!! It was the bootloader. Spent a good time trying to look for a flashable hboot, and finally had to restore my phone back to stock 2.2, then root and restore. The solution was here, the files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141

Clockworkmod Recovery Nandroid over 3GB! ?

So I tried to make a nandroid backup today and had to pull the battery because it was taking forever. I checked the size of the file and it was over 3GB. I've made a bunch of backups before and they are usually aroud 200mb or so. What could be the problem? Any help would be great. Thanks.
my average aosp backup is 200-300mb, sense 500-600mb, desirehd mod 600-700mb
theres definitely a problem there, you could try RA recovery and do a backup (honestly i think its better but your absolutely fine if you have at least 1 good RA backup just to save your RSA keys) delete that 3gb backup file/folder because its obviously bad, try again and see if it still does it, if so then go into Rom Manager and flash RA recovery then reflash Clockwork and try the backup
That's either a glitch or you have some SERIOUS stuff on your phone lol. Anyway, I'd recommend reflashing Clockwork if it happens again.
I deleted the bad backup then I tried flashing RA Recovery and doing a new backup with the same results. What I ended up doing was restoring a previous backup and then tried and new backup. All is back to normal now.
I want to update my radio, wimax, pri, and nv. I know I should make a backup using RA recovery. Do I do a normal backup or backup with ext? I want to make sure I backup my RSA keys. Thanks for the help guys.
normal backup is fine
glad your problem is resolved

Wimax.img file size?

Through help on another thread, I was able to locate a wimax.img from a prior nandroid backup made with amon's recovery. I was also able to open terminal and flash it back to the system making the Wimax keychecker say my keys were now ok. Question is this. Why would directly flashing the wimax.img recover the key but when I tried nandroid restoring the whole folder, the keys still wouldn't be present even though the wimax.img was in the folder?
Also, someone please check your nandroid folders and let me know how large the wimax.img is. The one I got to flash successfully is just over 2,000kb. I also found an old clockwork recovery on my sd card with a backup that has a wimax image file of nearly 12,000kb! Restoring that backup still showed my keys missing with keychecker though. When I tried to directly flash the 12,000kb wimax file, i received a bad block error.
My problem is that even though my mac address checks out and keys are present, I still cannot connect to Sprint 4g, it scans and finds the service, but connects and disconnects repeatedly without ever making a good connection. Is there a way my keys show up but aren't correct? Does the radio version at the time of backup make a difference when you are trying to recover?
legasus233 said:
Through help on another thread, I was able to locate a wimax.img from a prior nandroid backup made with amon's recovery. I was also able to open terminal and flash it back to the system making the Wimax keychecker say my keys were now ok. Question is this. Why would directly flashing the wimax.img recover the key but when I tried nandroid restoring the whole folder, the keys still wouldn't be present even though the wimax.img was in the folder?
Also, someone please check your nandroid folders and let me know how large the wimax.img is. The one I got to flash successfully is just over 2,000kb. I also found an old clockwork recovery on my sd card with a backup that has a wimax image file of nearly 12,000kb! Restoring that backup still showed my keys missing with keychecker though. When I tried to directly flash the 12,000kb wimax file, i received a bad block error.
My problem is that even though my mac address checks out and keys are present, I still cannot connect to Sprint 4g, it scans and finds the service, but connects and disconnects repeatedly without ever making a good connection. Is there a way my keys show up but aren't correct? Does the radio version at the time of backup make a difference when you are trying to recover?
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I am not 100pct sure about this but I thought only Amon had the proper ability to backup wimax keys and restore without a problem. I could be wrong since I was not a fan of Clockwork just for that reason. My Wimax backup is 12 megs
wimax for me are always 12000 if you are trying to restore with clockwork you need to select advanced restore so that it restores your wimax too,because clockwork backs up your wimax by default but doesnt restore on a normal restore just on advanced
Well, I think what the real question is though is just because keychecker says my rsa key is present, doesn't necessarily mean the whole thing is present? I appears my backup with the 2,000kb wimax.img may not complete? I will look for advanced restore in clockwork to see if that restores the image.
At some point I wiped my sd card (copied all files first to pc) and reformated it for ext 1 and ext 2. My guess is this occurred somewhere between having wimax keys and temporarily losing them. Would this have screwed something up with my wimax partition where the wimax was originally stored?
thats a good question, because i have 2 sd cards one partitioned and one that's not, and i have never tried restoring a partition back up on the non partition card and the other way around.
What are your thoughts on the actually size of the wimax.img and the fact that keychecker says the key is present??
why dont you try getting a stock rom like sprint lover and doing a full wipe with something like caulkins wipe all and flashing the rom to see if its your rom not playing well with your wimax. also where did you get your wimax backup from?
edit: better yet why dont you flash clockwork and do an advance restore from the one that has the 12000, then if your 4g gets fixed, go back to amon and reflash to what ever you have now, i would suggets that if 4g gets fixed you dont restore, instead redo everything from scratch and then back up
What are your thoughts on the actually size of the wimax.img and the fact that keychecker says the key is present??
I got the 2,000kb wimax.img from one of my nandroid backup folders. Just this morning, I flashed the pc36100 sprint lovers rom and it said the keys were missing. Plus, the 4g wouldn't even turn on, it just stayed at turning on before finally saying unable to start 4g. The 4g doesn't work on any roms I have tried (currently on Fresh 3.5) I have tried Myns, Kings, CM7, and a couple others, to no avail.
emcp422 said:
why dont you try getting a stock rom like sprint lover and doing a full wipe with something like caulkins wipe all and flashing the rom to see if its your rom not playing well with your wimax. also where did you get your wimax backup from?
edit: better yet why dont you flash clockwork and do an advance restore from the one that has the 12000, then if your 4g gets fixed, go back to amon and reflash to what ever you have now, i would suggets that if 4g gets fixed you dont restore, instead redo everything from scratch and then back up
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Good info. Will it work if I just do an advanced restore of the wimax? Or do I need to advance restore the system and everything for it to work. I am currently on my favorite fresh 3.5 setup and just switched to Clockwork and was hoping I could just do the advanced wimax restore. Or will that backup no play nicely on it's own?
try alone first if it doenst work try the full backup
Here is the interesting part. I did the clockwork advanced restore and verified the wimax key was present on my current Fresh setup. I also refreshed the old Clockwork backup that contained the wimax originally and got the system up and running (It was Sprint lovers I believe) and verified the wimax key was present. I checked both of the backup folders and the wimax.img created in clockwork in both cases was about 12,000kb. I then switched recoveries back to amon and did a full backup (selected all options) of both the Fresh system and Sprint lovers. When I open up those nandroid files, the wimax.img is only about 2,000kb? So, either I am not backing up what I think I am, or these two recoveries back up wimax much differently resulting in various output file sizes. Can someone explain this?
Also if am running one of these with verified wimax key, then nandroid restore to another file that doesn't have the wimax.img backed up, will I still have the key in place left over from what I was running? I understand how all of this works relatively well, but this wimax stuff sure has been throwing me for a loop! Thanks again for all the help!
My 4G works, and my Amon Ra wimax.img is 12 mb (12000 kb). Perhaps you should try a fresh download and install Amon Ra again, then try only backing up wimax. I only used Clockwork to make a backup once, right after I rooted, and don't have it handy to check the size of that one if it even has a wimax.img. I originally backed up my wimax keys via terminal, it was about 4000kb if I remember correctly.
If you restore a backup made with AR that doesn't include wimax, your working 4G should remain intact.
But your situation is odd... so I can't guarantee that to be the case.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
yeah you can restore,just make sue you dont select wimax, and yeah it sounds like your amon ra is bad, its should always be 12000. but good to hear you are up and running, remember always and remember to restore with the recovery you used to back up, and i would keep a copy of the working wimax backup on my pc for safe keeping
What I don't understand is why my wimax key checker says the keys are intact even after flashing the 2000 kilobytes wimax.img
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Also, how can I safely flash a new recovery without losing anything? I have not done that in particular yet, with the exception of my original root process, but that included every step
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legasus233 said:
Also, how can I safely flash a new recovery without losing anything? I have not done that in particular yet, with the exception of my original root process, but that included every step
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You can download a PC36IMG of Amon Ra from my dropbox, here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
Don't rename it - it's named PC36IMG.zip exactly (even if you can't see the .zip), which is what it needs to be named. Put it on the root of your SD card, then boot into the bootloader. It'll scan for the file then ask you to update. Agree with the volume up button, then when it finishes flashing, don't reboot when it asks you. Instead go into recovery and make a nandroid backup of only wimax. If you want, you can go ahead and backup the default options as well, but do them in a separate backup.
Reboot back into the rom and make sure that 4G is working properly, then check the size of the wimax.img file.
If it's still too small, then that's totally weird. Hope you get it figured out, though.
OK, I flashed the recovery and made a nandroid backup of the wimax. I then used file explorer to check the size and it still says 2.38 MB. Just to make sure, I then changed to clockwork and recovered a wimax image that was 11.88 MB and rebooted. I then changed recoveries back to amon again to make a nandroid backup of my recovered clockwork image. Again, the nandroid output image file was 2.3 MB!?!
Is there some other way to check the wimax size/files without doing a backup? I am so confused right now.
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what version of amon ra are you using i suggest 2.3, and also as long as you have a working backup even if it is from clockworkmod your safe, you can always go back and forth between recoveries if you need to, and if you need to restore a nadroid, just uncheck wimax, that way you dont touch the one you have that is working
If I recover one wimax.img over another, wont the original get overwritten? If there were any errors in flashing either of the images, wouldn't it tell me?
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[Q] Rom Manager & flashing between recoveries

I have Rom Manager installed on my device. I like to make backups in both ClockworkMod and AmonRA, but since I loaded CM7 (2.3.3 and 2.3.4) I can't flash between recoveries. My RM says my current recovery is CWM3005, but when I boot in recovery its RA! When I try to flash CWM, it says it is successfully flashed, but it is not! Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas would be appreciated.
I'm having the same issue. I switched to Amon Ra just to give it a shot and now I can't go back. On a related note, is it possible to restore a backup made with clockwork in Amon Ra (or vice versa)?
First off, Rom Manager is junk. Sorry, but it is.
Second, use Amon Ra, really. That's all you need.
Hipkat, thanks for your helpful post.
z3r0d3vil, I did some digging, andit looks like the only way to fix this issue is to reflash CWM through the hboot. I had trouble finding a good explanation how on xda, but here's a link from android forums.
Regarding Amon RA, my problem was that I wanted to restore a backup made with CWM and couldn't do so without going back to CWM. Now that I can flash through the hboot, I was able to restore the CWM backup and then back it up through Amon. I've since switched to Amon as my primary recovery. Hope this helps!
On second thought, xda won't let me post a URL because I haven't made enough posts. If you still need it, message me and I'll give it to you.

[Q] Going from Clockwork Mod to Anon RA?

Quick question: I want to flash Anon RA recovery but I already have Clockwork mod installed, do I need to delete clockwork first or can i just flash anon ra from the bootloader no problem? i dont want to run into any problems.
Followup question: for anon ra is there a similar "rom manager" app that works with it?
Longer explanation: Ive been trying out several sense gingerbread roms and noticed how fast i max out my internal memory. I read you can partition the memory card and use an apps to sd card app to fix this, but if you try to partition with clockwork you could potentially brick the phone. even though its been addressed in later versions it looks like it has still happened a couple times and this makes me nervous. plus it seems everyone says anon ra is a better recovery anyway.
Thanks!
You can just flash amon-ra without deleting clockwork. I don't know of a rom manager app for amon-ra but its safer and more thorough to do everything manually in recovery anyway
We're comin from a pure power source.
Just flash amon ra from Rom manager, its near the bottom, I think it says "flash alternate recovery". And remember, you can't do a nand restore from ra that you made with cwm.
I have to disagree with that, sorry. The best thing to do with Rom Manager is uninstall it. Flash the AR PC36IMG.zip from the AR thread in the Dev section
thanks worked well. deleted rom manager too just to be sure
Installing Amon Ra from ROM Manager or flashing it manually doesn't matter. Either way will yield the same results. But I agree with getting rid of ROM Manager. So make it useful one time to flash Amon Ra before you delete it and then part ways.
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Just beware, in case it wasn't clear, you cannot use backups made with Clockwork on Amon and vice versa. It would be wise to immediately create a new nandroid backup when you switch over to Amon. Don't forget to make an individual Wimax nandroid backup too.
How do you get rid of backups to save space?
I created a clockwork backup but plan on switching to Amon Ra so I want to erase all unnecessary files.

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