Wimax.img file size? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Through help on another thread, I was able to locate a wimax.img from a prior nandroid backup made with amon's recovery. I was also able to open terminal and flash it back to the system making the Wimax keychecker say my keys were now ok. Question is this. Why would directly flashing the wimax.img recover the key but when I tried nandroid restoring the whole folder, the keys still wouldn't be present even though the wimax.img was in the folder?
Also, someone please check your nandroid folders and let me know how large the wimax.img is. The one I got to flash successfully is just over 2,000kb. I also found an old clockwork recovery on my sd card with a backup that has a wimax image file of nearly 12,000kb! Restoring that backup still showed my keys missing with keychecker though. When I tried to directly flash the 12,000kb wimax file, i received a bad block error.
My problem is that even though my mac address checks out and keys are present, I still cannot connect to Sprint 4g, it scans and finds the service, but connects and disconnects repeatedly without ever making a good connection. Is there a way my keys show up but aren't correct? Does the radio version at the time of backup make a difference when you are trying to recover?

legasus233 said:
Through help on another thread, I was able to locate a wimax.img from a prior nandroid backup made with amon's recovery. I was also able to open terminal and flash it back to the system making the Wimax keychecker say my keys were now ok. Question is this. Why would directly flashing the wimax.img recover the key but when I tried nandroid restoring the whole folder, the keys still wouldn't be present even though the wimax.img was in the folder?
Also, someone please check your nandroid folders and let me know how large the wimax.img is. The one I got to flash successfully is just over 2,000kb. I also found an old clockwork recovery on my sd card with a backup that has a wimax image file of nearly 12,000kb! Restoring that backup still showed my keys missing with keychecker though. When I tried to directly flash the 12,000kb wimax file, i received a bad block error.
My problem is that even though my mac address checks out and keys are present, I still cannot connect to Sprint 4g, it scans and finds the service, but connects and disconnects repeatedly without ever making a good connection. Is there a way my keys show up but aren't correct? Does the radio version at the time of backup make a difference when you are trying to recover?
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I am not 100pct sure about this but I thought only Amon had the proper ability to backup wimax keys and restore without a problem. I could be wrong since I was not a fan of Clockwork just for that reason. My Wimax backup is 12 megs

wimax for me are always 12000 if you are trying to restore with clockwork you need to select advanced restore so that it restores your wimax too,because clockwork backs up your wimax by default but doesnt restore on a normal restore just on advanced

Well, I think what the real question is though is just because keychecker says my rsa key is present, doesn't necessarily mean the whole thing is present? I appears my backup with the 2,000kb wimax.img may not complete? I will look for advanced restore in clockwork to see if that restores the image.
At some point I wiped my sd card (copied all files first to pc) and reformated it for ext 1 and ext 2. My guess is this occurred somewhere between having wimax keys and temporarily losing them. Would this have screwed something up with my wimax partition where the wimax was originally stored?

thats a good question, because i have 2 sd cards one partitioned and one that's not, and i have never tried restoring a partition back up on the non partition card and the other way around.

What are your thoughts on the actually size of the wimax.img and the fact that keychecker says the key is present??

why dont you try getting a stock rom like sprint lover and doing a full wipe with something like caulkins wipe all and flashing the rom to see if its your rom not playing well with your wimax. also where did you get your wimax backup from?
edit: better yet why dont you flash clockwork and do an advance restore from the one that has the 12000, then if your 4g gets fixed, go back to amon and reflash to what ever you have now, i would suggets that if 4g gets fixed you dont restore, instead redo everything from scratch and then back up

What are your thoughts on the actually size of the wimax.img and the fact that keychecker says the key is present??

I got the 2,000kb wimax.img from one of my nandroid backup folders. Just this morning, I flashed the pc36100 sprint lovers rom and it said the keys were missing. Plus, the 4g wouldn't even turn on, it just stayed at turning on before finally saying unable to start 4g. The 4g doesn't work on any roms I have tried (currently on Fresh 3.5) I have tried Myns, Kings, CM7, and a couple others, to no avail.

emcp422 said:
why dont you try getting a stock rom like sprint lover and doing a full wipe with something like caulkins wipe all and flashing the rom to see if its your rom not playing well with your wimax. also where did you get your wimax backup from?
edit: better yet why dont you flash clockwork and do an advance restore from the one that has the 12000, then if your 4g gets fixed, go back to amon and reflash to what ever you have now, i would suggets that if 4g gets fixed you dont restore, instead redo everything from scratch and then back up
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Good info. Will it work if I just do an advanced restore of the wimax? Or do I need to advance restore the system and everything for it to work. I am currently on my favorite fresh 3.5 setup and just switched to Clockwork and was hoping I could just do the advanced wimax restore. Or will that backup no play nicely on it's own?

try alone first if it doenst work try the full backup

Here is the interesting part. I did the clockwork advanced restore and verified the wimax key was present on my current Fresh setup. I also refreshed the old Clockwork backup that contained the wimax originally and got the system up and running (It was Sprint lovers I believe) and verified the wimax key was present. I checked both of the backup folders and the wimax.img created in clockwork in both cases was about 12,000kb. I then switched recoveries back to amon and did a full backup (selected all options) of both the Fresh system and Sprint lovers. When I open up those nandroid files, the wimax.img is only about 2,000kb? So, either I am not backing up what I think I am, or these two recoveries back up wimax much differently resulting in various output file sizes. Can someone explain this?
Also if am running one of these with verified wimax key, then nandroid restore to another file that doesn't have the wimax.img backed up, will I still have the key in place left over from what I was running? I understand how all of this works relatively well, but this wimax stuff sure has been throwing me for a loop! Thanks again for all the help!

My 4G works, and my Amon Ra wimax.img is 12 mb (12000 kb). Perhaps you should try a fresh download and install Amon Ra again, then try only backing up wimax. I only used Clockwork to make a backup once, right after I rooted, and don't have it handy to check the size of that one if it even has a wimax.img. I originally backed up my wimax keys via terminal, it was about 4000kb if I remember correctly.
If you restore a backup made with AR that doesn't include wimax, your working 4G should remain intact.
But your situation is odd... so I can't guarantee that to be the case.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

yeah you can restore,just make sue you dont select wimax, and yeah it sounds like your amon ra is bad, its should always be 12000. but good to hear you are up and running, remember always and remember to restore with the recovery you used to back up, and i would keep a copy of the working wimax backup on my pc for safe keeping

What I don't understand is why my wimax key checker says the keys are intact even after flashing the 2000 kilobytes wimax.img
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Also, how can I safely flash a new recovery without losing anything? I have not done that in particular yet, with the exception of my original root process, but that included every step
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legasus233 said:
Also, how can I safely flash a new recovery without losing anything? I have not done that in particular yet, with the exception of my original root process, but that included every step
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You can download a PC36IMG of Amon Ra from my dropbox, here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
Don't rename it - it's named PC36IMG.zip exactly (even if you can't see the .zip), which is what it needs to be named. Put it on the root of your SD card, then boot into the bootloader. It'll scan for the file then ask you to update. Agree with the volume up button, then when it finishes flashing, don't reboot when it asks you. Instead go into recovery and make a nandroid backup of only wimax. If you want, you can go ahead and backup the default options as well, but do them in a separate backup.
Reboot back into the rom and make sure that 4G is working properly, then check the size of the wimax.img file.
If it's still too small, then that's totally weird. Hope you get it figured out, though.

OK, I flashed the recovery and made a nandroid backup of the wimax. I then used file explorer to check the size and it still says 2.38 MB. Just to make sure, I then changed to clockwork and recovered a wimax image that was 11.88 MB and rebooted. I then changed recoveries back to amon again to make a nandroid backup of my recovered clockwork image. Again, the nandroid output image file was 2.3 MB!?!
Is there some other way to check the wimax size/files without doing a backup? I am so confused right now.
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what version of amon ra are you using i suggest 2.3, and also as long as you have a working backup even if it is from clockworkmod your safe, you can always go back and forth between recoveries if you need to, and if you need to restore a nadroid, just uncheck wimax, that way you dont touch the one you have that is working

If I recover one wimax.img over another, wont the original get overwritten? If there were any errors in flashing either of the images, wouldn't it tell me?
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[Q] Clockwork And Amon

Question. I currently have Clockwork for my recovery but now when I try to boot into it via vol up and power it vibrates 3 times and I have to pull the battery and reboot the other way. I think the recovery is broken. Can this be fixed? If I flash Clockwork again will it destroy my recovery images and nand back up? Also, if i switch to Amon can it use clockworks files to back up the phone or do you need to start over? I dont want to lose my original recovery and back up since I rooted. Can anyone help? Also, my Market icon isn't changing anymore with Riptides theme since the new flash. Thanks.
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It's vol down+power. I think vol up may have worked with an earlier bootloader or firmware, but it definitely doesn't work now.
Also to add on, if you made a backup with ClockworkMod recovery, you cannot restore it with RA recovery.
idk if im rite o no but i dnt thnk ur gona lose thngs if u re install clockwork cuz theres on ur sdcard. idk if im rite o wrng
m3xicanprid3 said:
idk if im rite o no but i dnt thnk ur gona lose thngs if u re install clockwork cuz theres on ur sdcard. idk if im rite o wrng
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Wow that was painful to read...but yes, you are correct. Nandroid backups are stored on the SD card (in different formats for AmonRA or Clockwork, depending on what you used to perform the backup). You do need to use the same recovery to restore a backup that you used to back it up in the first place, but wiping your recovery won't kill any backups you made. Repartitioning or wiping your sd card, however...
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Wow that was painful to read...but yes, you are correct. Nandroid backups are stored on the SD card (in different formats for AmonRA or Clockwork, depending on what you used to perform the backup). You do need to use the same recovery to restore a backup that you used to back it up in the first place, but wiping your recovery won't kill any backups you made. Repartitioning or wiping your sd card, however...
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Did something change recently? Because I could have sworn that I've used them interchangeably. I've had to move the backups to different locations depending on the recovery, but usually I can get them to restore. If I'm not mistaken, they both use Nandroid to perform the backup. I think the biggest difference is ClockworkMod does an MD5 checksum, and Amon doesn't, which can cause problems if you don't disable MD5 check.
Vol down plus power.
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Thanks everyone for the quick responses. Anyone have any idea about the Riptide9 theme not changing all the images though? I cleared it and flashed the theme three times now. Maybe it's the new update...
I still don't think Clockwork wipes the Dalvik/cache/battery
clockwork definitely has problems with dalvik. i use amon. adb is a bit touchy with it, but it is all around better. and also nand backups backup wimax images.

Clockworkmod Recovery Nandroid over 3GB! ?

So I tried to make a nandroid backup today and had to pull the battery because it was taking forever. I checked the size of the file and it was over 3GB. I've made a bunch of backups before and they are usually aroud 200mb or so. What could be the problem? Any help would be great. Thanks.
my average aosp backup is 200-300mb, sense 500-600mb, desirehd mod 600-700mb
theres definitely a problem there, you could try RA recovery and do a backup (honestly i think its better but your absolutely fine if you have at least 1 good RA backup just to save your RSA keys) delete that 3gb backup file/folder because its obviously bad, try again and see if it still does it, if so then go into Rom Manager and flash RA recovery then reflash Clockwork and try the backup
That's either a glitch or you have some SERIOUS stuff on your phone lol. Anyway, I'd recommend reflashing Clockwork if it happens again.
I deleted the bad backup then I tried flashing RA Recovery and doing a new backup with the same results. What I ended up doing was restoring a previous backup and then tried and new backup. All is back to normal now.
I want to update my radio, wimax, pri, and nv. I know I should make a backup using RA recovery. Do I do a normal backup or backup with ext? I want to make sure I backup my RSA keys. Thanks for the help guys.
normal backup is fine
glad your problem is resolved

[Q] Restoring to a different Phone using CWM

I know that I have seen this question asked before but I can't find the post. I broke my evo (let's call it #1) and I am trying to restore evo#1 CWM backup onto evo #2 the new phone that I just got. I have put the sdcard from evo#1 with its latest backup into evo#2 and have booted into recovery.
I remember seeing that you can't do a full restore but rather to use Advance Restore but I don't remember which components to restore and which not. I think that I restore all but WIMAX bacause WIMAX is different for each phone.
Anyone know ??
ChadH42 said:
I know that I have seen this question asked before but I can't find the post. I broke my evo (let's call it #1) and I am trying to restore evo#1 CWM backup onto evo #2 the new phone that I just got. I have put the sdcard from evo#1 with its latest backup into evo#2 and have booted into recovery.
I remember seeing that you can't do a full restore but rather to use Advance Restore but I don't remember which components to restore and which not. I think that I restore all but WIMAX bacause WIMAX is different for each phone.
Anyone know ??
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Generally, I don't believe it's recommended to restore a backup from one phone to another. However, I've seen reports that it it can be done. As you assumed, you are correct by NOT restoring the wimax. If you were to do that, it would restore the RSA keys of your old phone, overwriting your NEW RSA keys. You don't want to do that. So remove the wimax.img from your nandroid backup before you restore.
Also, I'm not positive on this, but I do believe that if your old backup was made on a certain hboot version, that you need to be on the same hboot version when restoring that backup. (lets say you when you created the backup, your hboot version was 2.10, then when you restore your backup, be sure the hboot version on the new phone is also 2.10). The reason I believe taht to be true, is because I had always had hboot .93 on my phone, and all backups I had ever made were when I was running .93 hboot. I then downgraded to the ENG .76 hboot, (to use fastboot), and I tried to restore a backup that had been created when I was on .93 hboot, and it did not go well. After the backup restored and I rebooted, it booted straight to fastboot, and that was the only place I could get. None of my old backups would restore. I then switched back to hboot .93, and my backups restore perfectly fine. So that is what led me to my conclusion. Good luck with your quest. ( i personally recommend just starting fresh, and not restoring an old backup, just to be safe)
k2buckley got you covered, but restoring a backup from an old phone to a new one WILL cause you problems, and the easiest way to avoid it is to not do it.
The best you can do is backup your apps via titanium backup and your launcher settings, transfer those folders to your new phone. When restoring the apps, do only app and data, NOT system settings.
Thank you both for the reply. Based upon your feedback I decided to do a clean install of everything.
You're welcome; just trying to make it smooth as possible.

[Q] What If I Lose My Wimax RSA Keys

So this is probably a noob question, but I'm having problems finding a direct answer, so here it goes. I am interested in flashing Calkulin's newest combo pack for radio updates amongst other things and I need to know that if by some chance I lose my Wimax RSA keys, can I just restore my current nandroid back with working 4g, and fix everything? When I go into the folder for the back up, there is a file named wimax.HT05CHL02409 so I assume that is the file needed to restore them, but I am unsure.
I want to update everything because I am in the center of Philadelphia and still have poor 3g and 4g, so I am looking for some help with that. I am running CM7.0.3.1 by the way.
you will be able to restore them
you can use the wipe menu and make a backup of ur wimax keys. thats what i did. i also copied the backup to my pc in case my sd gets wasted. after u flash use the wimax key checker app from market to see if they are still present and then restore if there is an issue
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you can use the wipe menu and make a backup of ur wimax keys. thats what i did. i also copied the backup to my pc in case my sd gets wasted. after u flash use the wimax key checker app from market to see if they are still present and then restore if there is an issue
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Yea, all my nandroid back ups are copied to my laptop as well. So if I make a back up of the wimax using recovery, how would I got about restoring it?
i havent had to do that yet but if i were to do it I would just restore my wimax backup from recovery and then use the key checker to make sure everything is ok
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i havent had to do that yet but if i were to do it I would just restore my wimax backup from recovery and then use the key checker to make sure everything is ok
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I am using Clockworkmod 2.6.0.1 and I can't find any option to back up wimax, so I suppose this is where you tell me to switch to Amon RA 2.3, right?
so I suppose this is where you tell me to switch to Amon RA 2.3, right?
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Precisely.
Well I decided to switch ROMs and go to MikG 1.01 and ended up flashing everything at the same time with no problems. However, I still have yet to have problems with Clockworkmod, so I guess I will stick with it for now.

Two nandroid problems, need help

First issue is that for some reason, my wimax.img created when making a nandroid backup with ra 2.3 is only like 2,000 kb or a little larger. I understand from a previous post that wimax images are usually around the 12,000kb mark. When I backup using Clockwork, the resulting wimax.img is just over 12,000kb leading me to believe it is a good backup. This all came to issue a month or so ago when I thought my keys were gone. I ended up finding a few old backups on my pc, one nandroid and one clockwork, both of which contained the wimax image. However, when I nandroid restore the nandroid image, key checker said my keys were present but I wasn't able to connect to 4g. I then restored the clockwork backup and was able to connect to 4g right away. After further discovery in the backup folders, I found the nandroid wimax image to be just over 2,000kb while the clockwork image was over 12,000. I have tried to reflash ra recovery but it still only creates a 2,000kb wimax image. What is wrong????
The second part of the problem is that when I try to switch to clockwork from Rom Manager, it won't do it. It is stuck in RA!! Therefore, I cannot get into clockwork to restore any of the images I backed up that way. I had this issue in the past only I was stuck in Clockwork and couldn't get into RA. At that time, someone sent me a PC36100.zip (of RA recovery flash) which I put onto the root of my sd and flashed in bootloader, which allowed me to access RA recovery again. Why does it get stuck?? And, does someone have clockwork in a pc36100.zip format I can boot from?
Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!
ok heres the pc36img for clockwordmod that you flash from hboot/fastboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=575257&d=1303478367
and for first issue try falshing an older recovery of amon ra then the newest amon ra 2.3
Great Jadden, thanks for the help. Do you by any chance have a zip of an older version of RA as well? What adverse effects will there be by downgrading? Can I recover a backup made in 2.3 with say 1.8? Are they 100% compatible?
By the way, is there any way to tell how big the wimax image is that the phone is currently operating on without making a backup of it? Some type of terminal prompts or something?
Sorry I don't have an older version of Amon-Ra and I don't know of any terminal promts either

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