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Random issues since failed rom install

I attempted to install Mikfroyo, and for whatever reason it failed and left me in a perpetual boot loop. I recovered a previous nand, and now I'm having issues with my unlock and everything is running considerably slower. I've tried to wipe several times and recover but to no avail. What should I do now? I'm using clockwork recovery should I switch to AmonRA? Thanks for the help

what unlock method did you use?
I would try wiping and reflashing and see if it fixes the issues. It seems weird that you are haivng them after you nand as it should revert everything back. you didnt change anything else or add any app theme kernel?

This is going from bad to worse it won't recover from a previous nandroid back up now it gets stuck at Checking Md5 Sums and then nothing. Is clockwork the only way to wipe this thing or can I wipe it another way and just load a new ROM?

if you can get Amon Ra recovery isntalled you can try that I have problems now again with clockwork ussually reflashign it or using amon works
Dont freak out if you dont see your nandback ups thorugh amon ra. It looks in a diffrent place. you have 2 options youc an either wipe data with amon and try to flash the update.zip to clockwork and nandroiding or you can move the back up from clockwork>backup to a new directoty on the root of your SD card called backup.
once in the correct folder amon will see and be able to restore them.

download rom manager from the market and use it to reinstall clockwork. If already says you have the latest version of clockwork installed, use it to install AR and just use AR going forward (just don't try restoring a clockwork nand with AR), or use it again to reinstall clockwork after you've successfully installed AR.

[Q] Which is better ClockworkMod or Amon-Ra recovery for EVO 4G recovery

I have read other threads in regards to this but nothing up to date. I wanted to know what is recommended now especially since gingerbread is out. And another question is if I do a nandroid backup in CW can I restore in Ra??

aham83 said:
I have read other threads in regards to this but nothing up to date. I wanted to know what is recommended now especially since gingerbread is out. And another question is if I do a nandroid backup in CW can I restore in Ra??
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Personally I like Amon-Ra better & I believe if you do a backup w/ one recovery you can't restore w/ another one.

IN RA what is the USB-ms Toggle.

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IN RA what is the USB-ms Toggle.
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It mounts your SD card on a conputer
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I like Amon RA better. I have never had a problem with it. I'm still running 1.8 with out any issues and I flash a lot.
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SO i guess the upside to USB-ms toggle that you can mount your sd card while in recovery mode.
Which has better support though CW or RA.. I have read on other posts that RA will not be around much longer. And also that some have dual booted these two together..

its all preferance, both do the same thing, and both are not interchangable when it comes to nandroid backups, that should answer everything

Amon is better looking, but clockwork has support from rom manager. Both backup your wimax keys now.
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SO i guess the upside to USB-ms toggle that you can mount your sd card while in recovery mode.
Which has better support though CW or RA.. I have read on other posts that RA will not be around much longer. And also that some have dual booted these two together..
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Most people on the forums like Amon Ra more. It is less glitchy than CW and it has never let me down. (Clockwork mod totally messed up my Evo once)
But if you want to be a newb and use Rom Manager instead of flashing in the recovery, you need to use ClockworkMod.

I prefer Amon RA

I use Amon's because it is compatible with Fresh Evo.
Clockwork has issues with Fresh Evo. Also, being able to mount SD from recovery is very very nice.

I prefer Amon_RA for two reasons:
1) Its layout makes more sense to me.
2) Selective backup. In CMR you backup your /data, /cache, /system, /boot, wimax, and .android_secure folders/partitions every time, no matter what. In Amon_RA, I can tell it to just backup /data, /system, and /boot, cutting down the size of a backup from 30-50%, nevermind the time it takes to backup/restore. Let's face it, you DON'T need to backup your WiMAX every day, backing up cache is pointless (because the ROM/kernel can just rebuild it later), and .android_secure is on the SD card already (if your SD card goes, how are you going to restore your nandroid anyways?).
And a half-reason: Amon_RA still supports amend and edify scripts, so files like FORMAT_ALL.zip work for it, but not CMR.
Having said that, if you're looking for an easier time, and don't mind pruning your SD card more often, ClockworkMod Recovery is your choice, since it integrates completely with ROM Manager. You just select a ROM in ROM Manager, let it download, tell it to wipe and backup, then come back to your phone in a few minutes and you're in a new ROM.

Eh... i use amon-ra.. but i have had two backups that wouldn't successfully restore (Boot loop). Ended up losing some contacts..

+1 for amon-ra

Cw has given me nothing but problems

I will go out on a limb and say that I use CW, I tried RA, and honestly, I had nothing but problems with it. Looking at a lot of posts, people say that CW never wipes correctly, and I found out on my phone that RA never wiped correctly.
Really it's all a matter of choice though....use what works for you.

I just want to point out that you CAN use ROM Manager to flash even if you have Amon_Ra installed.
I have Ra installed and when a new CM7 Nightly come out, I get a notification, I tap it, and ROM Mananger does the rest.
There are other functions in ROM Manager that don't work unless you have Clockwork installed though, for sure. I just wanted to point that out!

Ra 1.8 has been flawless for me so far. I am moving on to try 2.3, but i don't really know if i want the new complications...
@drmacinyasha, if one goes the 2.3 route, after the initial backup of everything, what is the minimum you would recommend one backs up w/ all the options available?? /data, /system & /boot only? (as you posted)...and why?

Ok. Would I be able to do a nandroid back up and installing it on another EVO. Could that be done with RA or CW???

aham83 said:
Ok. Would I be able to do a nandroid back up and installing it on another EVO. Could that be done with RA or CW???
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I believe it is technically possible but highly discouraged. Some of the things you back up are unique to your phone. I wouldn't do it.

Amon_Ra not creating md5 files

last night i made a nandroid backup and when i went to restore it, it quit right away and said"nandroid file corrupt" or something to that effect. when i compared backupo to eachother i noticed the md5 files were not being created, so i tried reflashing amon ra 2.3 it didnt work even went back to cwm and then to amon ra and it didnt work. any help with this would be greatly appreciated. thanks!

Are you renaming the backup file and if so are you using special characters in the name? Also, what do you mean when you say amon RA is creating an md5? I am unaware that it did such a thing. You said you also switched to CWM. Were you able to make a nandroid backup with it? By the way, did you happen to rename the folder containing the nandroid backup?
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dougjamal said:
Are you renaming the backup file and if so are you using special characters in the name? Also, what do you mean when you say amon RA is creating an md5? I am unaware that it did such a thing. You said you also switched to CWM. Were you able to make a nandroid backup with it?
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no not changing the name at all and i dont think ive done anything concerning the recovery since the last nandroid i made. the nandroid files normally contain 9 files inside the new ones i try and make only contain 8 and the one missinf is the md5 file, no i havent tried with cmw i will now though gimme a sec and ill report back. thank you for your help.

Yes it creates a full useable backup with CMW, but i would love to figure out whats wrong with Amon_Ra. Maybe downgrade it and then upgrade would that maybe work? ill try it when i get home from work.
Edit: I think i know what may be wrong- With CMW when i try and wipe dalvik it says "unknown volume for path [sd/ext]" and last night when i tried to flash a new rom it didnt format the sd/ext because when i went to the app drawer all the old apps were still there in the new rom. and now that i look back at the back up log for the back up i just created in CMW it says no sd/ext found. so i guess i need to fix the sd/ext path. would this some how be dome in dtapp2sd?

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no not changing the name at all and i dont think ive done anything concerning the recovery since the last nandroid i made. the nandroid files normally contain 9 files inside the new ones i try and make only contain 8 and the one missinf is the md5 file, no i havent tried with cmw i will now though gimme a sec and ill report back. thank you for your help.
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I get it. You're referring to the nandroid.md5 file "within" the backup itself. Why do you have 9 files inside your backup? Are you selecting to back up EVERYTHING when you make a nandroid backup? If so, you don't need to do that. With amon RA, you only need to use the default selections, unless you have apps stored on sd-ext partition then you would also select it. Prior to making a nandroid backup, I suggest you wipe the cache & dalvik, if you're not already doing so.

steal25 said:
Yes it creates a full useable backup with CMW, but i would love to figure out whats wrong with Amon_Ra. Maybe downgrade it and then upgrade would that maybe work? ill try it when i get home from work.
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amon RA v2.3 is "solid". I use it and I highly recommend it. Try downloading a fresh copy of amon RA and reflash it. I have amon RA v2.3 Haus Mod. I could send you a link to download it from my DropBox, if you'd like.
UPDATE: I sent ou the link via PM, just in case you were interested.

steal25 said:
Edit: I think i know what may be wrong- With CMW when i try and wipe dalvik it says "unknown volume for path [sd/ext]" and last night when i tried to flash a new rom it didnt format the sd/ext because when i went to the app drawer all the old apps were still there in the new rom. and now that i look back at the back up log for the back up i just created in CMW it says no sd/ext found. so i guess i need to fix the sd/ext path. would this some how be dome in dtapp2sd?
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The SD-ext should have been detected. I know it is in amon RA and you're right, if your apps were still present after a fresh install of a new rom, the ssd-ext was not properly wiped. As for dt app2sd, wouldn't you have to repartition your SD card? I mean, you would have to create the EXT2 Partition. Then use the option to upgrage EXT2 to EXT3, at least that's how you would do it via amon RA. I don't use CWM.

dougjamal said:
The SD-ext should have been detected. I know it is in amon RA and you're right, if your apps were still present after a fresh install of a new rom, the ssd-ext was not properly wiped. As for dt app2sd, wouldn't you have to repartition your SD card? I mean, you would have to create the EXT2 Partition. Then use the option to upgrage EXT2 to EXT3, at least that's how you would do it via amon RA. I don't use CWM.
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so I made a new nandroid and checked it through root explorer, IM not art home to check on my computer, and its showing that it created an md5 file. thanks Doug for that file! I can flash again!!
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steal25 said:
So I made a new nandroid and checked it through root explorer, IM not at home to check on my computer, and it's showing that it created an md5 file. Thanks Doug for that file! I can flash again!!
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You're very welcome. I'm glad I was able to help. Take care and enjoy your weekend...

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I get it. You're referring to the nandroid.md5 file "within" the backup itself. Why do you have 9 files inside your backup? Are you selecting to back up EVERYTHING when you make a nandroid backup? If so, you don't need to do that. With amon RA, you only need to use the default selections, unless you have apps stored on sd-ext partition then you would also select it. Prior to making a nandroid backup, I suggest you wipe the cache & dalvik, if you're not already doing so.
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So your saying when i nandroid BU i only need to back up what is checked by default and sd-ext because i do have an ext-3 partition set up, and thats it? yeah i have been backing up everything and it takes for ever. so i no longer need to check cache, recovery, wimax or .android_secure ? thanks for your help brother!!

steal25 said:
So your saying when i nandroid BU i only need to back up what is checked by default and sd-ext because i do have an ext-3 partition set up, and thats it? yeah i have been backing up everything and it takes for ever. so i no longer need to check cache, recovery, wimax or .android_secure ? thanks for your help brother!!
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That is correct. It is also a good idea to make nandroid of your wimax. With amon RA, the nandroid will have have names similar to BDEAS-20110409-1532. The letters prior to the first hyphen tells you what was backed up. B for boot, D for data, E for ext partition, A for Android.secure and S for system. The middle portion is the date the nandroid was created. I usually rename the middle portion. Anyway, take care and enjoy your weekend.
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Change from Clockwork mod to Amons ?

Hi Guys, I need to change from Clockwork mod to Amons because like eveyone says in forum Clockwork sucks and makes problems but the think is that I have my Nandroid backup with clockwork and it was my original sprint scene. I do not want to loose that backup.
Whats the solution ?

Only thing I can think of is to back that nandroid up on your computer or a spare micro sd card. So if you ever need it again you can put your clockwork mod recovery back on there and restore it. Ofcourse, you won't be able to restore it through RA, but here is the Amon recovery, just put it on the root of your sd card and let it find the update through the bootloader. If you want to save that nandroid, be sure to back it up so you can go back to clockwork and get it.
Edit: Actually, duh, you can back it up if you want to but don't have to. You can keep it on your card, just flash back to clockwork if you want to restore it.
And thanks to dougjamal for having it so handy!

You can restore it while your on cwm then change to ra do a nandroid from there and you will have it you can go back and fourth with recoverys I was in that same boat at one time had 3 backups on cwm took a little time but I got them all backed up with ra.
Also make sure you check off the right things in ra backup its different from cwm like you don't have to backup cache and dalvik cache it saves on memory too.
Just search how to do a nand backup with ra.
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Thanks guys It was very helpful.

yeah amon ra is better

Nandroid restore problem

I'm on the Mikg 2.1 + 3.0 rom, and ran into a problem trying to restore my backup after briefly trying out another rom. Using AmonRA, after restoring my backup it loads like normal but when the lockscreen comes up there is no ring or way to unlock the phone. Does anybody know what happened? Is my backup no good? Going to have to reload the stock rom to get back into my phone.
Thanks

joelthebassplayer said:
I'm on the Mikg 2.1 + 3.0 rom, and ran into a problem trying to restore my backup after briefly trying out another rom. Using AmonRA, after restoring my backup it loads like normal but when the lockscreen comes up there is no ring or way to unlock the phone. Does anybody know what happened? Is my backup no good? Going to have to reload the stock rom to get back into my phone.
Thanks
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Just flash the rom over your setup now, fastest way to fix it for right now. Or boot back into recovery and wipe cache/dalvik

I guess I will switch back to clockwork recovery since I have used it to restore my stock backup before. Don't know what happened to this backup that I made on AmonRA, but if it doesn't work I won't be using it anymore.

I'm having the same problem. I have done multiple nandroid backups with Amon_Ra that are not restoring properly...
I don't flash over anything critical, but it's becoming an inconvienience.
Are you saying that CWM is not doing this?

I hae only used amon ra after rooting with no problems. Might be a bad recovery. Just my 2cents.

joelthebassplayer said:
I'm on the Mikg 2.1 + 3.0 rom, and ran into a problem trying to restore my backup after briefly trying out another rom. Using AmonRA, after restoring my backup it loads like normal but when the lockscreen comes up there is no ring or way to unlock the phone. Does anybody know what happened? Is my backup no good? Going to have to reload the stock rom to get back into my phone.
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Same problem here. I did a full wipe before restoring and wonder if that was the problem. Did you do a full wipe before restoring?

stealthl said:
Same problem here. I did a full wipe before restoring and wonder if that was the problem. Did you do a full wipe before restoring?
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All of you guys are using Amon and having restore issues.. Not something I have really ever heard of. Is it a 32gb card

After I restored I was missing market. Running deck 1.3
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Mine is a 16gb card. I couldn't unlock the phone after restore. There was no unlock ring. Running mik 2.5

I have the same issue. 32gb card. Amon-ra. fortunately clockwork works. Unfortunately I have to use clockwork. I even reformatted and repartitioned. Still no luck
We're comin from a pure power source.

I've also restored from Amon Ra and had weird things missing.
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holy crap im having the same issues. I did a nandroid restore with amon ra 2.3 and now even after a full WIPE I cannot get the same rom that I had restored at one point working again. Market app is missing. WTF?

Not sure what's going on exactly. However, I have noticed that's get weird restores when I wipe the .Android directory and don't back it up. That has all my sdcard programs. That winner explain the missing ring, but maybe the market.

how do I switch from amon ra to clockworkmod? and which is the latest & greatest version?
I wanna give it a try just for the heck

350zx6r said:
how do I switch from amon ra to clockworkmod? and which is the latest & greatest version?
I wanna give it a try just for the heck
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I used ROM manager from market when I wanted to try it out.

350zx6r said:
how do I switch from amon ra to clockworkmod? and which is the latest & greatest version?
I wanna give it a try just for the heck
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Go to the dev section, search clockworkmod and it'll come out; the latest version is 5.0.2 I believe. You can also download rom manager from the market.

should i be able to just flash it using rom manager? I just wanna give it a try to see if I can sort this issue im having. thx everyone!