Hi Guys, I need to change from Clockwork mod to Amons because like eveyone says in forum Clockwork sucks and makes problems but the think is that I have my Nandroid backup with clockwork and it was my original sprint scene. I do not want to loose that backup.
Whats the solution ?
Only thing I can think of is to back that nandroid up on your computer or a spare micro sd card. So if you ever need it again you can put your clockwork mod recovery back on there and restore it. Ofcourse, you won't be able to restore it through RA, but here is the Amon recovery, just put it on the root of your sd card and let it find the update through the bootloader. If you want to save that nandroid, be sure to back it up so you can go back to clockwork and get it.
Edit: Actually, duh, you can back it up if you want to but don't have to. You can keep it on your card, just flash back to clockwork if you want to restore it.
And thanks to dougjamal for having it so handy!
You can restore it while your on cwm then change to ra do a nandroid from there and you will have it you can go back and fourth with recoverys I was in that same boat at one time had 3 backups on cwm took a little time but I got them all backed up with ra.
Also make sure you check off the right things in ra backup its different from cwm like you don't have to backup cache and dalvik cache it saves on memory too.
Just search how to do a nand backup with ra.
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Thanks guys It was very helpful.
yeah amon ra is better
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Question. I currently have Clockwork for my recovery but now when I try to boot into it via vol up and power it vibrates 3 times and I have to pull the battery and reboot the other way. I think the recovery is broken. Can this be fixed? If I flash Clockwork again will it destroy my recovery images and nand back up? Also, if i switch to Amon can it use clockworks files to back up the phone or do you need to start over? I dont want to lose my original recovery and back up since I rooted. Can anyone help? Also, my Market icon isn't changing anymore with Riptides theme since the new flash. Thanks.
EVO 2.2
Unrevoked Forever
Fresh 3.4.0.1
Netarchy 4.1.9.1 cfs
Riptide 9 Glass Theme v8
It's vol down+power. I think vol up may have worked with an earlier bootloader or firmware, but it definitely doesn't work now.
Also to add on, if you made a backup with ClockworkMod recovery, you cannot restore it with RA recovery.
idk if im rite o no but i dnt thnk ur gona lose thngs if u re install clockwork cuz theres on ur sdcard. idk if im rite o wrng
m3xicanprid3 said:
idk if im rite o no but i dnt thnk ur gona lose thngs if u re install clockwork cuz theres on ur sdcard. idk if im rite o wrng
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Wow that was painful to read...but yes, you are correct. Nandroid backups are stored on the SD card (in different formats for AmonRA or Clockwork, depending on what you used to perform the backup). You do need to use the same recovery to restore a backup that you used to back it up in the first place, but wiping your recovery won't kill any backups you made. Repartitioning or wiping your sd card, however...
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Wow that was painful to read...but yes, you are correct. Nandroid backups are stored on the SD card (in different formats for AmonRA or Clockwork, depending on what you used to perform the backup). You do need to use the same recovery to restore a backup that you used to back it up in the first place, but wiping your recovery won't kill any backups you made. Repartitioning or wiping your sd card, however...
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Did something change recently? Because I could have sworn that I've used them interchangeably. I've had to move the backups to different locations depending on the recovery, but usually I can get them to restore. If I'm not mistaken, they both use Nandroid to perform the backup. I think the biggest difference is ClockworkMod does an MD5 checksum, and Amon doesn't, which can cause problems if you don't disable MD5 check.
Vol down plus power.
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Thanks everyone for the quick responses. Anyone have any idea about the Riptide9 theme not changing all the images though? I cleared it and flashed the theme three times now. Maybe it's the new update...
I still don't think Clockwork wipes the Dalvik/cache/battery
clockwork definitely has problems with dalvik. i use amon. adb is a bit touchy with it, but it is all around better. and also nand backups backup wimax images.
So I tried to make a nandroid backup today and had to pull the battery because it was taking forever. I checked the size of the file and it was over 3GB. I've made a bunch of backups before and they are usually aroud 200mb or so. What could be the problem? Any help would be great. Thanks.
my average aosp backup is 200-300mb, sense 500-600mb, desirehd mod 600-700mb
theres definitely a problem there, you could try RA recovery and do a backup (honestly i think its better but your absolutely fine if you have at least 1 good RA backup just to save your RSA keys) delete that 3gb backup file/folder because its obviously bad, try again and see if it still does it, if so then go into Rom Manager and flash RA recovery then reflash Clockwork and try the backup
That's either a glitch or you have some SERIOUS stuff on your phone lol. Anyway, I'd recommend reflashing Clockwork if it happens again.
I deleted the bad backup then I tried flashing RA Recovery and doing a new backup with the same results. What I ended up doing was restoring a previous backup and then tried and new backup. All is back to normal now.
I want to update my radio, wimax, pri, and nv. I know I should make a backup using RA recovery. Do I do a normal backup or backup with ext? I want to make sure I backup my RSA keys. Thanks for the help guys.
normal backup is fine
glad your problem is resolved
I have read other threads in regards to this but nothing up to date. I wanted to know what is recommended now especially since gingerbread is out. And another question is if I do a nandroid backup in CW can I restore in Ra??
aham83 said:
I have read other threads in regards to this but nothing up to date. I wanted to know what is recommended now especially since gingerbread is out. And another question is if I do a nandroid backup in CW can I restore in Ra??
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Personally I like Amon-Ra better & I believe if you do a backup w/ one recovery you can't restore w/ another one.
IN RA what is the USB-ms Toggle.
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IN RA what is the USB-ms Toggle.
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It mounts your SD card on a conputer
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I like Amon RA better. I have never had a problem with it. I'm still running 1.8 with out any issues and I flash a lot.
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SO i guess the upside to USB-ms toggle that you can mount your sd card while in recovery mode.
Which has better support though CW or RA.. I have read on other posts that RA will not be around much longer. And also that some have dual booted these two together..
its all preferance, both do the same thing, and both are not interchangable when it comes to nandroid backups, that should answer everything
Amon is better looking, but clockwork has support from rom manager. Both backup your wimax keys now.
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SO i guess the upside to USB-ms toggle that you can mount your sd card while in recovery mode.
Which has better support though CW or RA.. I have read on other posts that RA will not be around much longer. And also that some have dual booted these two together..
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Most people on the forums like Amon Ra more. It is less glitchy than CW and it has never let me down. (Clockwork mod totally messed up my Evo once)
But if you want to be a newb and use Rom Manager instead of flashing in the recovery, you need to use ClockworkMod.
I prefer Amon RA
I use Amon's because it is compatible with Fresh Evo.
Clockwork has issues with Fresh Evo. Also, being able to mount SD from recovery is very very nice.
I prefer Amon_RA for two reasons:
1) Its layout makes more sense to me.
2) Selective backup. In CMR you backup your /data, /cache, /system, /boot, wimax, and .android_secure folders/partitions every time, no matter what. In Amon_RA, I can tell it to just backup /data, /system, and /boot, cutting down the size of a backup from 30-50%, nevermind the time it takes to backup/restore. Let's face it, you DON'T need to backup your WiMAX every day, backing up cache is pointless (because the ROM/kernel can just rebuild it later), and .android_secure is on the SD card already (if your SD card goes, how are you going to restore your nandroid anyways?).
And a half-reason: Amon_RA still supports amend and edify scripts, so files like FORMAT_ALL.zip work for it, but not CMR.
Having said that, if you're looking for an easier time, and don't mind pruning your SD card more often, ClockworkMod Recovery is your choice, since it integrates completely with ROM Manager. You just select a ROM in ROM Manager, let it download, tell it to wipe and backup, then come back to your phone in a few minutes and you're in a new ROM.
Eh... i use amon-ra.. but i have had two backups that wouldn't successfully restore (Boot loop). Ended up losing some contacts..
+1 for amon-ra
Cw has given me nothing but problems
I will go out on a limb and say that I use CW, I tried RA, and honestly, I had nothing but problems with it. Looking at a lot of posts, people say that CW never wipes correctly, and I found out on my phone that RA never wiped correctly.
Really it's all a matter of choice though....use what works for you.
I just want to point out that you CAN use ROM Manager to flash even if you have Amon_Ra installed.
I have Ra installed and when a new CM7 Nightly come out, I get a notification, I tap it, and ROM Mananger does the rest.
There are other functions in ROM Manager that don't work unless you have Clockwork installed though, for sure. I just wanted to point that out!
Ra 1.8 has been flawless for me so far. I am moving on to try 2.3, but i don't really know if i want the new complications...
@drmacinyasha, if one goes the 2.3 route, after the initial backup of everything, what is the minimum you would recommend one backs up w/ all the options available?? /data, /system & /boot only? (as you posted)...and why?
Ok. Would I be able to do a nandroid back up and installing it on another EVO. Could that be done with RA or CW???
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Ok. Would I be able to do a nandroid back up and installing it on another EVO. Could that be done with RA or CW???
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I believe it is technically possible but highly discouraged. Some of the things you back up are unique to your phone. I wouldn't do it.
So, I was planning on doing some stuff to my EVO, nandroided, then messed around some. Decided I didn't like my changes, went back to recovery, wiped, and then when I went to restore, my backup wasn't there.
Now, when I did the backup, it said it was successful. What else could I have done to keep things from getting fried?
Of course, my app backups aren't updated so I've lost all my game high scores
well if using amon ra, you can look for your nandroids in the nandroid folder on sd card.
if using clockwork, you can look for them in the clockwork folder on your sd card.
remember you can only restore amon ra back ups with amon ra, and the same goes for clockwork
Quick question: I want to flash Anon RA recovery but I already have Clockwork mod installed, do I need to delete clockwork first or can i just flash anon ra from the bootloader no problem? i dont want to run into any problems.
Followup question: for anon ra is there a similar "rom manager" app that works with it?
Longer explanation: Ive been trying out several sense gingerbread roms and noticed how fast i max out my internal memory. I read you can partition the memory card and use an apps to sd card app to fix this, but if you try to partition with clockwork you could potentially brick the phone. even though its been addressed in later versions it looks like it has still happened a couple times and this makes me nervous. plus it seems everyone says anon ra is a better recovery anyway.
Thanks!
You can just flash amon-ra without deleting clockwork. I don't know of a rom manager app for amon-ra but its safer and more thorough to do everything manually in recovery anyway
We're comin from a pure power source.
Just flash amon ra from Rom manager, its near the bottom, I think it says "flash alternate recovery". And remember, you can't do a nand restore from ra that you made with cwm.
I have to disagree with that, sorry. The best thing to do with Rom Manager is uninstall it. Flash the AR PC36IMG.zip from the AR thread in the Dev section
thanks worked well. deleted rom manager too just to be sure
Installing Amon Ra from ROM Manager or flashing it manually doesn't matter. Either way will yield the same results. But I agree with getting rid of ROM Manager. So make it useful one time to flash Amon Ra before you delete it and then part ways.
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Just beware, in case it wasn't clear, you cannot use backups made with Clockwork on Amon and vice versa. It would be wise to immediately create a new nandroid backup when you switch over to Amon. Don't forget to make an individual Wimax nandroid backup too.
How do you get rid of backups to save space?
I created a clockwork backup but plan on switching to Amon Ra so I want to erase all unnecessary files.