Hi,
Made a complete nandroid backup, with all options selected in amon ra 2.2.1. Flashed MIUI to try it out and decided to go back to Myn's.
Upon selecting nandroid restore, I get nothing but the splashscreen and it hangs there. I left it on for over 30 mins in case it was working and I couldn't tell, but unfortunately it just hung.
I had a2sd installed, is it possible that because the ext partition was blown away that this is causing issues ???
Edit: DISREGARD ..... SOLVED ON SECOND NANDROID ATTEMPT
-Protos said:
Hi,
Made a complete nandroid backup, with all options selected in amon ra 2.2.1. Flashed MIUI to try it out and decided to go back to Myn's.
Upon selecting nandroid restore, I get nothing but the splashscreen and it hangs there. I left it on for over 30 mins in case it was working and I couldn't tell, but unfortunately it just hung.
I had a2sd installed, is it possible that because the ext partition was blown away that this is causing issues ???
Edit: DISREGARD ..... SOLVED ON SECOND NANDROID ATTEMPT
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I had a similar problem only I made a backup on one phone, then when i got a new phone (same 0004 hardware version), I tried restoring the backup and it failed 2 or 3 times. not sure what was going on.
How long would you say it takes to restore the nandroid backup?
I understand you solved the problem, but I wanted to mention this: If you are using ROM Manager it is a good idea to make a CWM backup as well as an Amon RA nandroid. If one doesn't work, the other may! And, if you are not using ROM manager, you might want to think about it. Also, if you are not making multiple backups, you might want to think about that as well.
I know that I have seen this question asked before but I can't find the post. I broke my evo (let's call it #1) and I am trying to restore evo#1 CWM backup onto evo #2 the new phone that I just got. I have put the sdcard from evo#1 with its latest backup into evo#2 and have booted into recovery.
I remember seeing that you can't do a full restore but rather to use Advance Restore but I don't remember which components to restore and which not. I think that I restore all but WIMAX bacause WIMAX is different for each phone.
Anyone know ??
ChadH42 said:
I know that I have seen this question asked before but I can't find the post. I broke my evo (let's call it #1) and I am trying to restore evo#1 CWM backup onto evo #2 the new phone that I just got. I have put the sdcard from evo#1 with its latest backup into evo#2 and have booted into recovery.
I remember seeing that you can't do a full restore but rather to use Advance Restore but I don't remember which components to restore and which not. I think that I restore all but WIMAX bacause WIMAX is different for each phone.
Anyone know ??
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Generally, I don't believe it's recommended to restore a backup from one phone to another. However, I've seen reports that it it can be done. As you assumed, you are correct by NOT restoring the wimax. If you were to do that, it would restore the RSA keys of your old phone, overwriting your NEW RSA keys. You don't want to do that. So remove the wimax.img from your nandroid backup before you restore.
Also, I'm not positive on this, but I do believe that if your old backup was made on a certain hboot version, that you need to be on the same hboot version when restoring that backup. (lets say you when you created the backup, your hboot version was 2.10, then when you restore your backup, be sure the hboot version on the new phone is also 2.10). The reason I believe taht to be true, is because I had always had hboot .93 on my phone, and all backups I had ever made were when I was running .93 hboot. I then downgraded to the ENG .76 hboot, (to use fastboot), and I tried to restore a backup that had been created when I was on .93 hboot, and it did not go well. After the backup restored and I rebooted, it booted straight to fastboot, and that was the only place I could get. None of my old backups would restore. I then switched back to hboot .93, and my backups restore perfectly fine. So that is what led me to my conclusion. Good luck with your quest. ( i personally recommend just starting fresh, and not restoring an old backup, just to be safe)
k2buckley got you covered, but restoring a backup from an old phone to a new one WILL cause you problems, and the easiest way to avoid it is to not do it.
The best you can do is backup your apps via titanium backup and your launcher settings, transfer those folders to your new phone. When restoring the apps, do only app and data, NOT system settings.
Thank you both for the reply. Based upon your feedback I decided to do a clean install of everything.
You're welcome; just trying to make it smooth as possible.
Through help on another thread, I was able to locate a wimax.img from a prior nandroid backup made with amon's recovery. I was also able to open terminal and flash it back to the system making the Wimax keychecker say my keys were now ok. Question is this. Why would directly flashing the wimax.img recover the key but when I tried nandroid restoring the whole folder, the keys still wouldn't be present even though the wimax.img was in the folder?
Also, someone please check your nandroid folders and let me know how large the wimax.img is. The one I got to flash successfully is just over 2,000kb. I also found an old clockwork recovery on my sd card with a backup that has a wimax image file of nearly 12,000kb! Restoring that backup still showed my keys missing with keychecker though. When I tried to directly flash the 12,000kb wimax file, i received a bad block error.
My problem is that even though my mac address checks out and keys are present, I still cannot connect to Sprint 4g, it scans and finds the service, but connects and disconnects repeatedly without ever making a good connection. Is there a way my keys show up but aren't correct? Does the radio version at the time of backup make a difference when you are trying to recover?
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Through help on another thread, I was able to locate a wimax.img from a prior nandroid backup made with amon's recovery. I was also able to open terminal and flash it back to the system making the Wimax keychecker say my keys were now ok. Question is this. Why would directly flashing the wimax.img recover the key but when I tried nandroid restoring the whole folder, the keys still wouldn't be present even though the wimax.img was in the folder?
Also, someone please check your nandroid folders and let me know how large the wimax.img is. The one I got to flash successfully is just over 2,000kb. I also found an old clockwork recovery on my sd card with a backup that has a wimax image file of nearly 12,000kb! Restoring that backup still showed my keys missing with keychecker though. When I tried to directly flash the 12,000kb wimax file, i received a bad block error.
My problem is that even though my mac address checks out and keys are present, I still cannot connect to Sprint 4g, it scans and finds the service, but connects and disconnects repeatedly without ever making a good connection. Is there a way my keys show up but aren't correct? Does the radio version at the time of backup make a difference when you are trying to recover?
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I am not 100pct sure about this but I thought only Amon had the proper ability to backup wimax keys and restore without a problem. I could be wrong since I was not a fan of Clockwork just for that reason. My Wimax backup is 12 megs
wimax for me are always 12000 if you are trying to restore with clockwork you need to select advanced restore so that it restores your wimax too,because clockwork backs up your wimax by default but doesnt restore on a normal restore just on advanced
Well, I think what the real question is though is just because keychecker says my rsa key is present, doesn't necessarily mean the whole thing is present? I appears my backup with the 2,000kb wimax.img may not complete? I will look for advanced restore in clockwork to see if that restores the image.
At some point I wiped my sd card (copied all files first to pc) and reformated it for ext 1 and ext 2. My guess is this occurred somewhere between having wimax keys and temporarily losing them. Would this have screwed something up with my wimax partition where the wimax was originally stored?
thats a good question, because i have 2 sd cards one partitioned and one that's not, and i have never tried restoring a partition back up on the non partition card and the other way around.
What are your thoughts on the actually size of the wimax.img and the fact that keychecker says the key is present??
why dont you try getting a stock rom like sprint lover and doing a full wipe with something like caulkins wipe all and flashing the rom to see if its your rom not playing well with your wimax. also where did you get your wimax backup from?
edit: better yet why dont you flash clockwork and do an advance restore from the one that has the 12000, then if your 4g gets fixed, go back to amon and reflash to what ever you have now, i would suggets that if 4g gets fixed you dont restore, instead redo everything from scratch and then back up
What are your thoughts on the actually size of the wimax.img and the fact that keychecker says the key is present??
I got the 2,000kb wimax.img from one of my nandroid backup folders. Just this morning, I flashed the pc36100 sprint lovers rom and it said the keys were missing. Plus, the 4g wouldn't even turn on, it just stayed at turning on before finally saying unable to start 4g. The 4g doesn't work on any roms I have tried (currently on Fresh 3.5) I have tried Myns, Kings, CM7, and a couple others, to no avail.
emcp422 said:
why dont you try getting a stock rom like sprint lover and doing a full wipe with something like caulkins wipe all and flashing the rom to see if its your rom not playing well with your wimax. also where did you get your wimax backup from?
edit: better yet why dont you flash clockwork and do an advance restore from the one that has the 12000, then if your 4g gets fixed, go back to amon and reflash to what ever you have now, i would suggets that if 4g gets fixed you dont restore, instead redo everything from scratch and then back up
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Good info. Will it work if I just do an advanced restore of the wimax? Or do I need to advance restore the system and everything for it to work. I am currently on my favorite fresh 3.5 setup and just switched to Clockwork and was hoping I could just do the advanced wimax restore. Or will that backup no play nicely on it's own?
try alone first if it doenst work try the full backup
Here is the interesting part. I did the clockwork advanced restore and verified the wimax key was present on my current Fresh setup. I also refreshed the old Clockwork backup that contained the wimax originally and got the system up and running (It was Sprint lovers I believe) and verified the wimax key was present. I checked both of the backup folders and the wimax.img created in clockwork in both cases was about 12,000kb. I then switched recoveries back to amon and did a full backup (selected all options) of both the Fresh system and Sprint lovers. When I open up those nandroid files, the wimax.img is only about 2,000kb? So, either I am not backing up what I think I am, or these two recoveries back up wimax much differently resulting in various output file sizes. Can someone explain this?
Also if am running one of these with verified wimax key, then nandroid restore to another file that doesn't have the wimax.img backed up, will I still have the key in place left over from what I was running? I understand how all of this works relatively well, but this wimax stuff sure has been throwing me for a loop! Thanks again for all the help!
My 4G works, and my Amon Ra wimax.img is 12 mb (12000 kb). Perhaps you should try a fresh download and install Amon Ra again, then try only backing up wimax. I only used Clockwork to make a backup once, right after I rooted, and don't have it handy to check the size of that one if it even has a wimax.img. I originally backed up my wimax keys via terminal, it was about 4000kb if I remember correctly.
If you restore a backup made with AR that doesn't include wimax, your working 4G should remain intact.
But your situation is odd... so I can't guarantee that to be the case.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
yeah you can restore,just make sue you dont select wimax, and yeah it sounds like your amon ra is bad, its should always be 12000. but good to hear you are up and running, remember always and remember to restore with the recovery you used to back up, and i would keep a copy of the working wimax backup on my pc for safe keeping
What I don't understand is why my wimax key checker says the keys are intact even after flashing the 2000 kilobytes wimax.img
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Also, how can I safely flash a new recovery without losing anything? I have not done that in particular yet, with the exception of my original root process, but that included every step
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legasus233 said:
Also, how can I safely flash a new recovery without losing anything? I have not done that in particular yet, with the exception of my original root process, but that included every step
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You can download a PC36IMG of Amon Ra from my dropbox, here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
Don't rename it - it's named PC36IMG.zip exactly (even if you can't see the .zip), which is what it needs to be named. Put it on the root of your SD card, then boot into the bootloader. It'll scan for the file then ask you to update. Agree with the volume up button, then when it finishes flashing, don't reboot when it asks you. Instead go into recovery and make a nandroid backup of only wimax. If you want, you can go ahead and backup the default options as well, but do them in a separate backup.
Reboot back into the rom and make sure that 4G is working properly, then check the size of the wimax.img file.
If it's still too small, then that's totally weird. Hope you get it figured out, though.
OK, I flashed the recovery and made a nandroid backup of the wimax. I then used file explorer to check the size and it still says 2.38 MB. Just to make sure, I then changed to clockwork and recovered a wimax image that was 11.88 MB and rebooted. I then changed recoveries back to amon again to make a nandroid backup of my recovered clockwork image. Again, the nandroid output image file was 2.3 MB!?!
Is there some other way to check the wimax size/files without doing a backup? I am so confused right now.
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what version of amon ra are you using i suggest 2.3, and also as long as you have a working backup even if it is from clockworkmod your safe, you can always go back and forth between recoveries if you need to, and if you need to restore a nadroid, just uncheck wimax, that way you dont touch the one you have that is working
If I recover one wimax.img over another, wont the original get overwritten? If there were any errors in flashing either of the images, wouldn't it tell me?
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Hi Guys, I need to change from Clockwork mod to Amons because like eveyone says in forum Clockwork sucks and makes problems but the think is that I have my Nandroid backup with clockwork and it was my original sprint scene. I do not want to loose that backup.
Whats the solution ?
Only thing I can think of is to back that nandroid up on your computer or a spare micro sd card. So if you ever need it again you can put your clockwork mod recovery back on there and restore it. Ofcourse, you won't be able to restore it through RA, but here is the Amon recovery, just put it on the root of your sd card and let it find the update through the bootloader. If you want to save that nandroid, be sure to back it up so you can go back to clockwork and get it.
Edit: Actually, duh, you can back it up if you want to but don't have to. You can keep it on your card, just flash back to clockwork if you want to restore it.
And thanks to dougjamal for having it so handy!
You can restore it while your on cwm then change to ra do a nandroid from there and you will have it you can go back and fourth with recoverys I was in that same boat at one time had 3 backups on cwm took a little time but I got them all backed up with ra.
Also make sure you check off the right things in ra backup its different from cwm like you don't have to backup cache and dalvik cache it saves on memory too.
Just search how to do a nand backup with ra.
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Thanks guys It was very helpful.
yeah amon ra is better
First issue is that for some reason, my wimax.img created when making a nandroid backup with ra 2.3 is only like 2,000 kb or a little larger. I understand from a previous post that wimax images are usually around the 12,000kb mark. When I backup using Clockwork, the resulting wimax.img is just over 12,000kb leading me to believe it is a good backup. This all came to issue a month or so ago when I thought my keys were gone. I ended up finding a few old backups on my pc, one nandroid and one clockwork, both of which contained the wimax image. However, when I nandroid restore the nandroid image, key checker said my keys were present but I wasn't able to connect to 4g. I then restored the clockwork backup and was able to connect to 4g right away. After further discovery in the backup folders, I found the nandroid wimax image to be just over 2,000kb while the clockwork image was over 12,000. I have tried to reflash ra recovery but it still only creates a 2,000kb wimax image. What is wrong????
The second part of the problem is that when I try to switch to clockwork from Rom Manager, it won't do it. It is stuck in RA!! Therefore, I cannot get into clockwork to restore any of the images I backed up that way. I had this issue in the past only I was stuck in Clockwork and couldn't get into RA. At that time, someone sent me a PC36100.zip (of RA recovery flash) which I put onto the root of my sd and flashed in bootloader, which allowed me to access RA recovery again. Why does it get stuck?? And, does someone have clockwork in a pc36100.zip format I can boot from?
Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!
ok heres the pc36img for clockwordmod that you flash from hboot/fastboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=575257&d=1303478367
and for first issue try falshing an older recovery of amon ra then the newest amon ra 2.3
Great Jadden, thanks for the help. Do you by any chance have a zip of an older version of RA as well? What adverse effects will there be by downgrading? Can I recover a backup made in 2.3 with say 1.8? Are they 100% compatible?
By the way, is there any way to tell how big the wimax image is that the phone is currently operating on without making a backup of it? Some type of terminal prompts or something?
Sorry I don't have an older version of Amon-Ra and I don't know of any terminal promts either