last night i made a nandroid backup and when i went to restore it, it quit right away and said"nandroid file corrupt" or something to that effect. when i compared backupo to eachother i noticed the md5 files were not being created, so i tried reflashing amon ra 2.3 it didnt work even went back to cwm and then to amon ra and it didnt work. any help with this would be greatly appreciated. thanks!
Are you renaming the backup file and if so are you using special characters in the name? Also, what do you mean when you say amon RA is creating an md5? I am unaware that it did such a thing. You said you also switched to CWM. Were you able to make a nandroid backup with it? By the way, did you happen to rename the folder containing the nandroid backup?
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Are you renaming the backup file and if so are you using special characters in the name? Also, what do you mean when you say amon RA is creating an md5? I am unaware that it did such a thing. You said you also switched to CWM. Were you able to make a nandroid backup with it?
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no not changing the name at all and i dont think ive done anything concerning the recovery since the last nandroid i made. the nandroid files normally contain 9 files inside the new ones i try and make only contain 8 and the one missinf is the md5 file, no i havent tried with cmw i will now though gimme a sec and ill report back. thank you for your help.
Yes it creates a full useable backup with CMW, but i would love to figure out whats wrong with Amon_Ra. Maybe downgrade it and then upgrade would that maybe work? ill try it when i get home from work.
Edit: I think i know what may be wrong- With CMW when i try and wipe dalvik it says "unknown volume for path [sd/ext]" and last night when i tried to flash a new rom it didnt format the sd/ext because when i went to the app drawer all the old apps were still there in the new rom. and now that i look back at the back up log for the back up i just created in CMW it says no sd/ext found. so i guess i need to fix the sd/ext path. would this some how be dome in dtapp2sd?
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no not changing the name at all and i dont think ive done anything concerning the recovery since the last nandroid i made. the nandroid files normally contain 9 files inside the new ones i try and make only contain 8 and the one missinf is the md5 file, no i havent tried with cmw i will now though gimme a sec and ill report back. thank you for your help.
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I get it. You're referring to the nandroid.md5 file "within" the backup itself. Why do you have 9 files inside your backup? Are you selecting to back up EVERYTHING when you make a nandroid backup? If so, you don't need to do that. With amon RA, you only need to use the default selections, unless you have apps stored on sd-ext partition then you would also select it. Prior to making a nandroid backup, I suggest you wipe the cache & dalvik, if you're not already doing so.
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Yes it creates a full useable backup with CMW, but i would love to figure out whats wrong with Amon_Ra. Maybe downgrade it and then upgrade would that maybe work? ill try it when i get home from work.
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amon RA v2.3 is "solid". I use it and I highly recommend it. Try downloading a fresh copy of amon RA and reflash it. I have amon RA v2.3 Haus Mod. I could send you a link to download it from my DropBox, if you'd like.
UPDATE: I sent ou the link via PM, just in case you were interested.
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Edit: I think i know what may be wrong- With CMW when i try and wipe dalvik it says "unknown volume for path [sd/ext]" and last night when i tried to flash a new rom it didnt format the sd/ext because when i went to the app drawer all the old apps were still there in the new rom. and now that i look back at the back up log for the back up i just created in CMW it says no sd/ext found. so i guess i need to fix the sd/ext path. would this some how be dome in dtapp2sd?
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The SD-ext should have been detected. I know it is in amon RA and you're right, if your apps were still present after a fresh install of a new rom, the ssd-ext was not properly wiped. As for dt app2sd, wouldn't you have to repartition your SD card? I mean, you would have to create the EXT2 Partition. Then use the option to upgrage EXT2 to EXT3, at least that's how you would do it via amon RA. I don't use CWM.
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The SD-ext should have been detected. I know it is in amon RA and you're right, if your apps were still present after a fresh install of a new rom, the ssd-ext was not properly wiped. As for dt app2sd, wouldn't you have to repartition your SD card? I mean, you would have to create the EXT2 Partition. Then use the option to upgrage EXT2 to EXT3, at least that's how you would do it via amon RA. I don't use CWM.
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so I made a new nandroid and checked it through root explorer, IM not art home to check on my computer, and its showing that it created an md5 file. thanks Doug for that file! I can flash again!!
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So I made a new nandroid and checked it through root explorer, IM not at home to check on my computer, and it's showing that it created an md5 file. Thanks Doug for that file! I can flash again!!
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You're very welcome. I'm glad I was able to help. Take care and enjoy your weekend...
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I get it. You're referring to the nandroid.md5 file "within" the backup itself. Why do you have 9 files inside your backup? Are you selecting to back up EVERYTHING when you make a nandroid backup? If so, you don't need to do that. With amon RA, you only need to use the default selections, unless you have apps stored on sd-ext partition then you would also select it. Prior to making a nandroid backup, I suggest you wipe the cache & dalvik, if you're not already doing so.
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So your saying when i nandroid BU i only need to back up what is checked by default and sd-ext because i do have an ext-3 partition set up, and thats it? yeah i have been backing up everything and it takes for ever. so i no longer need to check cache, recovery, wimax or .android_secure ? thanks for your help brother!!
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So your saying when i nandroid BU i only need to back up what is checked by default and sd-ext because i do have an ext-3 partition set up, and thats it? yeah i have been backing up everything and it takes for ever. so i no longer need to check cache, recovery, wimax or .android_secure ? thanks for your help brother!!
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That is correct. It is also a good idea to make nandroid of your wimax. With amon RA, the nandroid will have have names similar to BDEAS-20110409-1532. The letters prior to the first hyphen tells you what was backed up. B for boot, D for data, E for ext partition, A for Android.secure and S for system. The middle portion is the date the nandroid was created. I usually rename the middle portion. Anyway, take care and enjoy your weekend.
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Question. I currently have Clockwork for my recovery but now when I try to boot into it via vol up and power it vibrates 3 times and I have to pull the battery and reboot the other way. I think the recovery is broken. Can this be fixed? If I flash Clockwork again will it destroy my recovery images and nand back up? Also, if i switch to Amon can it use clockworks files to back up the phone or do you need to start over? I dont want to lose my original recovery and back up since I rooted. Can anyone help? Also, my Market icon isn't changing anymore with Riptides theme since the new flash. Thanks.
EVO 2.2
Unrevoked Forever
Fresh 3.4.0.1
Netarchy 4.1.9.1 cfs
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It's vol down+power. I think vol up may have worked with an earlier bootloader or firmware, but it definitely doesn't work now.
Also to add on, if you made a backup with ClockworkMod recovery, you cannot restore it with RA recovery.
idk if im rite o no but i dnt thnk ur gona lose thngs if u re install clockwork cuz theres on ur sdcard. idk if im rite o wrng
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idk if im rite o no but i dnt thnk ur gona lose thngs if u re install clockwork cuz theres on ur sdcard. idk if im rite o wrng
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Wow that was painful to read...but yes, you are correct. Nandroid backups are stored on the SD card (in different formats for AmonRA or Clockwork, depending on what you used to perform the backup). You do need to use the same recovery to restore a backup that you used to back it up in the first place, but wiping your recovery won't kill any backups you made. Repartitioning or wiping your sd card, however...
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Wow that was painful to read...but yes, you are correct. Nandroid backups are stored on the SD card (in different formats for AmonRA or Clockwork, depending on what you used to perform the backup). You do need to use the same recovery to restore a backup that you used to back it up in the first place, but wiping your recovery won't kill any backups you made. Repartitioning or wiping your sd card, however...
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Did something change recently? Because I could have sworn that I've used them interchangeably. I've had to move the backups to different locations depending on the recovery, but usually I can get them to restore. If I'm not mistaken, they both use Nandroid to perform the backup. I think the biggest difference is ClockworkMod does an MD5 checksum, and Amon doesn't, which can cause problems if you don't disable MD5 check.
Vol down plus power.
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Thanks everyone for the quick responses. Anyone have any idea about the Riptide9 theme not changing all the images though? I cleared it and flashed the theme three times now. Maybe it's the new update...
I still don't think Clockwork wipes the Dalvik/cache/battery
clockwork definitely has problems with dalvik. i use amon. adb is a bit touchy with it, but it is all around better. and also nand backups backup wimax images.
I am wanting to flash Myn's warm twopointtwo rom into my htc evo and im very very....id say nervous because 1 i have not flashed a rom before and 2 ive installed a theme before and my whole phone crashed and etc......now can someone please explain to me what nand unlock is? and can anyone please if you can help me install this rom into my evo. i have an htc evo 4g rooted with unrevoked running 2.2 froyo.
please if anyone can assist me i would really appreciate it.
thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835
If that didnt help, Google "what is nand unlock XDA EVO" tons of threads come up.
Nandroid basically backsup all your info. So if anything bad happens your phone will be restored to its last backup. As for installing roms. Download ROM manager. Goto install Rom from SD card. Locate the zip file and check both boxes. Making sure you backup your apps to your SD card via titanium backup. And contacts via export contacts. This will wipe all data and cache. And Nandroid backup your phone
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Nandroid basically backsup all your info. So if anything bad happens your phone will be restored to its last backup. As for installing roms. Download ROM manager. Goto install Rom from SD card. Locate the zip file and check both boxes. Making sure you backup your apps to your SD card via titanium backup. And contacts via export contacts. This will wipe all data and cache. And Nandroid backup your phone
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what do you mean by nandroid backup your phone??
in rommanager do i just backup my rom is that nandroid backup?
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what do you mean by nandroid backup your phone??
in rommanager do i just backup my rom is that nandroid backup?
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Yes. If you rename it, do NOT put spaces in the file name.
i got all the answers you need. pm me if you have more questions.
nand unlock lets you alter the system partition (software) drastically and to your heart's content.
your phone crashed because you are on stock (i am guessing) but you need a de-odexed rom to flash a theme. deodexed means the .odex files that hold stuff for apk files are combined with the apks. so they will not contradict causing crashes. MAKE SURE TO WIPE DATA CACHE AND DALVIK CACHE TWICE EACH THROUGH AMON RA RECOVERY AND MAKE A NANDROID WITH AMON RA RECOVERY. ALWAYS HAVE AT LEAST ONE BACKUP MAKE WITH AMON RA RECOVERY ON YOUR SD CARD IN CASE YOU LOSE YOUR 4G RSA KEYS AND YU WILL NEVER EVER BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO 4G
When you flash anything. Whether it be a Rom or any signed zip file. The easiest way is through Rom manager as I explained. "Nandroid is a set of tools that will enable anyone who has root on their Android device to make FULL system backups, in case something goes wrong or you want to try out that new experimental ROM/theme." -cyanogen.
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Ok so I've been using clockwork since I rooted but now I want to switch to Amon Ra cause I hear its better. The recovery works because I can back up and flash stuff, but for some reason I can't restore, it always says something went wrong, check the recovery log. Is it because I rename the backups?
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Ok so I've been using clockwork since I rooted but now I want to switch to Amon Ra cause I hear its better. The recovery works because I can back up and flash stuff, but for some reason I can't restore, it always says something went wrong, check the recovery log. Is it because I rename the backups?
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It could be. If you rename a backup, it cannot have any spaces in the name, or any odd characters. I suggest renaming it to something simple, with no punctuation, and no spaces. Try that, and see if it'll restore.
didnt work :/
you arent trying to recover CWM backups with RA are you?
No, these are backups done through Amon Ra
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No, these are backups done through Amon Ra
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What options did you select when creating the backup? You may want to try re flashing your recovery, and see if it works after that. Sometimes reflashing the recovery can clear up a bunch of odd recovery related issues.
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What options did you select when creating the backup? You may want to try re flashing your recovery, and see if it works after that. Sometimes reflashing the recovery can clear up a bunch of odd recovery related issues.
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For one of them I backed up all of it (clicked every check) and for another I only backed up the original 3 it selects for you; neither of them worked... Ok I'll try that
When you make a backup using amon RA, the name of the nandroid appears as such: BDAS-20110509-0440. The prefix tells you what was backed up. For instance, the BDAS in the above example tells me that I made a backup of the boot, data, android.secure and system. Because I flash a lot of roms, I rename my backups in this manner: BDAS-SALVAGEMOD-0440. If you don't add any special characters, your backup should restore if you've renamed it. If your renamed backup is similar to mine and it still fails to restore then I recommend that you re-flash amon RA as suggested by my good friend k2buckley. Specifically, v2.3. You can download it from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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Alright thanks a lot guys it worked when I re-flashed the recovery through bootloader. For some reason, ROM manager isn't flashing recoveries for me anymore.
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Alright thanks a lot guys it worked when I re-flashed the recovery through bootloader. For some reason, ROM manager isn't flashing recoveries for me anymore.
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Some users have had issues with rom manager "not flashing correct," but I've never had a problem with it. Glad its working though.
I want to play with different ROMs (i.e., Cyanogen 7.x, Kingdom and other leaked stock ROMs) but I would like to backup and restore my apps+data for use between the ROMS *AND* have my current stock ROM (yes, its rooted) imaged/ghost'd so I can clone back to it if I don't like the other ROMs (like Ghost, DriveImage, ShadowProtect does for PCs). Is this possible? If so, how?
It's built into recoveries. It's called a nandroid backup. I switch betweek MikFroyo and CyanogenMod7 by using recoveries. If you've rooted your phone you should already know how to do it
To back up your current rom:
reboot into recovery
wipe cache/dalvik (trust me, it's faster that way)
select backup
select nandroid backup (not restore)
it'll give you a list of options to select. Select all but the last 2. (which is like android.secure and your sd card. don't need backups for that)
select "perform backup".
Be patient, it takes several minutes to perform the backup. This will back up your rom as it is right now. After that reboot, use your favorite file manager, go into the nandroid folder and rename that nandroid backup to whatever you want (remember NO SPACES IN THE NAME or it WON'T WORK. Don't name it MikFroyo 4.61, name it MikFroyo_4.61, for example). Then, no matter what, you can restore to how your rom is at the very moment you saved it.
If you wanna just back up apps, get "titanium backup" from the market and back up all your apps. Then you can restore just the apps to whatever rom you flash.
Any flashaholics have nandroid backups and titanium backups.
I flash back and forth between Virus 2.1 Sense, the gingerbread w/sense leak and mikfroyo 4.61 and have nandroids for all three. Can't wait for Kingdom to be officially released (3.0 and 4g? sign me the hell up!)
Hope this helps. Us flashaholics gotta stick together.
To add to what AbsolutZeroGI stated, I would recommend, being this is your first time making backups and we don't know how your SD card is partitioned, that you select to backup your boot, data, system, android.secure, sdext and wimax.For all other backups, just use the default options. If your recovery is amon RA, the aforementioned options are clearly seen, bit I'm not sure about ClockworkMod. It's been too long since I last used it.
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To add to what AbsolutZeroGI stated, I would recommend, being this is your first time making backups and we don't know how your SD card is partitioned, that you select to backup your boot, data, system, android.secure, sdext and wimax.For all other backups, just use the default options. If your recovery is amon RA, the aforementioned options are clearly seen, bit I'm not sure about ClockworkMod. It's been too long since I last used it.
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I don't think how the sd card is formatted matters. I formatted mine for virus 2.1 sense B3 and my mikfroyo and stock still work perfectly. It says to back up the sd card on the computer before you format and put it back after you're done.
Not saying you're wrong, but a backup with .secure and sdext takes FOREVER (like half an hour the last time I tried it, maybe longer) and it's not really necessary.
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Not saying you're wrong, but a backup with .secure and sdext takes FOREVER (like half an hour the last time I tried it, maybe longer) and it's not really necessary.
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I respectfully disagree. Before making a backup, I always wipe cache & dalvik and when I had all of my apps on the sdext partition, the backup was maybe a minute longer than using the default settings. Furthermore, a few of my apps are on android,secure and the backup time is the same. At least that has been my experience....
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I respectfully disagree. Before making a backup, I always wipe cache & dalvik and when I had all of my apps on the sdext partition, the backup was maybe a minute longer than using the default settings. Furthermore, a few of my apps are on android,secure and the backup time is the same. At least that has been my experience....
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I'd have to agree. When I backup my android secure it only takes about a minute or 2 extra than the regular settings...never a half and hours..that's just ludicrous.
Rats! I was hoping I could just dd this ***** and be done with it.
What's this .secure, android.secure and sdext business? I was picking up what y'all were putting down until y'all mentioned that stuff (I've yet to come across that stuff in my nandroid'n/rooting/ROM'n adventures so far).
Also if you backup your apps using Titanium Backup, make sure when you restore you are not restoring and system apps from a Sense Rom to an AOSP Rom or vice verse. I will throw your phone into a Bootloop more than likely and you will have to restore your backup and start all over.
DiGiTY said:
Rats! I was hoping I could just dd this ***** and be done with it.
What's this .secure, android.secure and sdext business? I was picking up what y'all were putting down until y'all mentioned that stuff (I've yet to come across that stuff in my nandroid'n/rooting/ROM'n adventures so far).
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When you go into recovery to create a nandroid backup using amon RA, System, Data and Boot are selected by default to be backed up. Most of the time, that is all that is required and all you have to do is initiate the backup. However, some people's device is setup a little differently and to prevent their devices from bootlooping at the rom's splash screen, they have to select sdext and/or android.secure to also be backed up when creating a nandroid backup. Both are where certain apps are sometimes stored.
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When you go into recovery to create a nandroid backup using amon RA, System, Data and Boot are selected by default to be backed up. Most of the time, that is all that is required and all you have to do is initiate the backup. However, some people's device is setup a little differently and to prevent their devices from bootlooping at the rom's splash screen, they have to select sdext and/or android.secure to also be backed up when creating a nandroid backup. Both are where certain apps are sometimes stored.
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Got it! Thanks! Is the WiMAX radio stuff included in all that too or is that a different procedure?
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Got it! Thanks! Is the WiMAX radio stuff included in all that too or is that a different procedure?
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There's an adb way to pull and copy the wimax image, but if you mount the phone to the pc, copy the wimax to the pc and have an extra copy.
If you're on clockwork recovery, the wimax is already in the backup. If you're on amon_ra 2.3, you'll need to make a backup of it specifically.
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There's an adb way to pull and copy the wimax image, but if you mount the phone to the pc, copy the wimax to the pc and have an extra copy.
If you're on clockwork recovery, the wimax is already in the backup. If you're on amon_ra 2.3, you'll need to make a backup of it specifically.
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Thanks a lot!
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Thanks a lot!
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Whippin' out that 444! Lol...
And you're welcome.
Alright, so I have clockwork 3.0.0.5 and I backed up my system before flashing a new Rom. Well I need a text message out of that back up. The system was working fine which is why I backed it up. I backed up using clockwork. Now I try to flash back to get a picture of this Text and the freaking back up wont load. it just hangs on the boot animation. Has been there for over an hour now. I don't care how I get it, but I need to get this text message. Anyone have any ideas?
Have you tried pulling the battery and wiping caches then trying to boot up?
You could wipe everything and try to restore again.
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Yeah. I have done everything that I can think of.
Wipe date, wipe cache, wip dalvik, reset security. Then reload the back-up
nothing
wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik. then reload nothing
Wipe cache, reload. Reboot nothing.
I was using the Shooter Rom with the red fang remxed theme. It was slow as hell but worked. Always booted. I backed it up, loaded another rom, and now I cannot get the shooter to reload.
I hear that you can pull these thigns with the SDK. I will try anything. I need to get it.
I know it's after the fact, but this is why most of us shun CWM and use Amon Ra
He's got a point.
Can you browse the SD card, get into the backup and find the appropriate files? IDK offhand *where* the text history would be in there, but I'm sure one of these gurus knows. I'd guess it would be a matter of finding that file, flashing to a working rom, then dumping the file over top.
Mind you...this is just an educated guess.
Well the only people I know locally who flash use CWM. thats why I chose it over Amon. Does it make a huge difference? My stock rom back-up which does work and has been moved to three safe locations, was done in CWM.
How would I move the files over? I tried using a thread I found earlier and "Droid Explorer" but it didn't seem to work to well and just cleared my texts. So I tried to copy some .IMG files around and totally hosed my working back-up. Not the one with the Texts, the one I was booting from.
Yo no se....good luck with that man =/
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Well the only people I know locally who flash use CWM. thats why I chose it over Amon. Does it make a huge difference? My stock rom back-up which does work and has been moved to three safe locations, was done in CWM.
How would I move the files over? I tried using a thread I found earlier and "Droid Explorer" but it didn't seem to work to well and just cleared my texts. So I tried to copy some .IMG files around and totally hosed my working back-up. Not the one with the Texts, the one I was booting from.
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Yea people use CWM because thats what comes with rooting but if you actually read a little through these threads and talk to anyone who has had there phone rooted over a year they will let you know Amon is the way to go.... Very few issues do you see in the forums for AmonRa - IMO
I would back up to a good workable rom then flash AmonRa and start into your new world...Unfortunately you can not recover a CWM backup in AmonRa
Since your backups are with clockwork, you would need to make a whole new set of backups using Amon Ra. However we can get you where you need to be with clockwork. First the issue with Clockwork is, you cannot wipe boot without a script. Wiping boot is manditory for restoring any backup, otherwise as you have seen the phone won't boot. So download the attached file, place it on the root of your SDCARD, then boot to recovery, flash the file like you would flash a new ROM. Then without rebooting the phone restore your backup. This should get you back up and going.
Thank you!
I'm trying it right now. After I finish rebuilding and backing up this system.
Alright so as I tried to run that Superwipe.zip, I get an error tell me that Amend scripting was deprecated by google in android 1.5 I have to switch to edify scripting. Whats that mean?
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Alright so as I tried to run that Superwipe.zip, I get an error tell me that Amend scripting was deprecated by google in android 1.5 I have to switch to edify scripting. Whats that mean?
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It means get rid of clockwork mod because its strait up awful and install amon-ra
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Like I said earlier.....
But I need clockwork to restore this back up as it was made in clockwork.
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But I need clockwork to restore this back up as it was made in clockwork.
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Look for calkulins format all. It's not as indepth as superwipe but it should work with the latest version of cwm.
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Look for calkulins format all. It's not as indepth as superwipe but it should work with the latest version of cwm.
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Calkulin's is also amend-scripted, I thought VR was edify though. I know that there's an edify wipe script, but not sure what it is.
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What rom is the backup of. Try to wipe everything, restore the backup, wipe cache and dalvic cache, then flash a compatible kernel. See if it boots then.
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Its Kinged Shooter ROM. Its stock Kernal so....