This might be like the question "how much do you tip at a restaurant" because its very suggestive based on personal biases, etc. But at least there is that 18% base consideration. SO, I'm asking what is a typical donation made to the awesome devs who give us these ROMs to play around with? I want to contribute but I don't want to go so low as to be insulting and of course i'm not going to go too high either.
So for those that have donated and/or received donations, what is your opinion?
I've personally donated everything from $2 - $20
I really don't think there's a wrong answer, and I don't believe there's such a thing as "too small" of a donation. I don't see how anyone could be insulted by receiving a donation, even if it's paltry. Little amounts add up, and anyone would rather get 100 donations of $1 than 2 donations of $10.
Just as a heads up - most of the donations I've made have not been met with any thanks; only a few people have ever said anything. And no, it wasn't correlated to the amount I gave. I only bring it up to tell my experience.
I don't take it as an insult if I don't get thanks; devs are busy! That said, if someone thanks me for a donation, it certainly increases the probability that I'll send them repeat donations in the future.
i think 5 bucks is the perfect donation. won't be missed by you at all. and if you want recognition for your gift, then it's not a gift. i personally give donations in 5 dollar increments.
I'll let a new less developed rom for lack of words, bake. I'll then follow it for a while and when it seems like it cant go any further I'll flash it. If its up to snub and the dev is interacting with the thread then I'll send a donation. As far as amounts, its all up to you. There is no right or wrong amount. When I was over on the captivate side, there was a member that sent somewhere near $130 to a dev because his captivate bricked and he was going to stop developing an insane rom. Which he then bought a new phone and continued developing the rom. your guess is as good as mine If his phone actually bricked. based off his sincerity in interaction with the community, it probably did. Thats enough of my ranting, you get the point.
Thanks for the feedback guys. Good points all around.
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Being somewhat new to the site and appreciative of the hard work the chefs put into cooking the ROMs up, I was wondering what most people considered a reasonable donation to the chef of your choice? I won't mention which ROM I am using, but have been extremely pleased with it and want to make a donation. Of course, I expect some big numbers from all the chefs, so all you non-chefs chip in with a suggestion. And yes, I did a search for this but did not find anything on chef donations (only site donations).
Thanks and looking forward to your suggestions.
Maybe a good starting point would be what you would be prepared to pay for an official upgrade? (We all know they will be free, if they are actually available)
I am not suggesting you pay that.
Its a good question though.
I'm happy to admit I have made an odd donation of a tenner to the odd chef, as a token of appreciation and a couple of beers.
Use beer as your guide...about what you'd pay for a 12 pack. If you drink good stuff (and have more money) kick in $20. IF you drink Meisterbrau, send $7.
Personally, I usually send a little bit with each update (20 bucks for 2.0; if I'm liking the new 2.5, another 10 - 20).
Hope I'm not being too cheap, but I do have a truck to support.
If you only drink single malt scotch, then you should pay a tarriff of $100.
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Being somewhat new to the site and appreciative of the hard work the chefs put into cooking the ROMs up, I was wondering what most people considered a reasonable donation to the chef of your choice? I won't mention which ROM I am using, but have been extremely pleased with it and want to make a donation. Of course, I expect some big numbers from all the chefs, so all you non-chefs chip in with a suggestion. And yes, I did a search for this but did not find anything on chef donations (only site donations).
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My personal opinion is that $50 - $100 is a good range..
But, then, I am a cook, so, I'm probably highly biased
Bad elf! When I accepted donations over all the stuff I did over at TC and at my site I never said a amount and tried to tell people to keep it small (which in turn is a karma modifier that only increases your amounts!). So long story short, elf gets nada!
But seriously, it's whatever you can afford and feel like you WANT to give. Donations are that, your WANTING to give a gift back to those that gave you something. If you blow $20 a day in eating out, then maybe $20 is a good number... What kind of "spending money" do you have for odd's and in's...
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My personal opinion is that $50 - $100 is a good range..
But, then, I am a cook, so, I'm probably highly biased
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Someones a greedy ****
Anything helps, anything is better then nothing
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Someones a greedy ****
Anything helps, anything is better then nothing
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I was just kidding.. Seriously though, it comes down to this.. If you think nothing of spending $20 on something else you really want, then tip $20. If $100 is pocket-change for you, do that. If $5 is all you can throw around, that's fine too.. There really isn't a 'normal' donation. And, it is just that.. No cook will tell what your donation is, and everything is appreciated!
Thanks guys! Very helpful.
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Being somewhat new to the site and appreciative of the hard work the chefs put into cooking the ROMs up, I was wondering what most people considered a reasonable donation to the chef of your choice? I won't mention which ROM I am using, but have been extremely pleased with it and want to make a donation. Of course, I expect some big numbers from all the chefs, so all you non-chefs chip in with a suggestion. And yes, I did a search for this but did not find anything on chef donations (only site donations).
Thanks and looking forward to your suggestions.
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dude, i would say donate as much as how much you would pay for a full tank of gas...so it all depends on your mileage and oh yeah...GATORS!
MOD EDIT: I am closing this thread. It has become pathetic the amount of trolling and arguing and complaining - you would think this was a thread with a bunch of high school kids if it wasn't for the timestamps saying otherwise.
In addition, after further review this effort falls short of the general XDA guidelines for bounty threads in that it is not for one specific developer, but instead a free-for-all for whomever gets something *done* first, and then that is a subjective nightmare.
And further, the idea of donating to an effort of this sort always leads to further the sense of entitlement which always infects XDA.
All pledges can be considered moot and you may choose to donate to whomever you want to.
put me down for $20 for full 1.0 release of ROM
Im in for $20 but what are you talking about when you say full code?
There are lots of people that would love this but you also know you posted this in the wrong forum this should be in general... the mod will move this so you will probably need to look for it there .....
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Im in for $20 but what are you talking about when you say full code?
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Put me down for for 25
wrong section for 1, second ICS will come to our phone as soon as its possible trust me.. your not the only one that wants ICS
put me down for 20 im excited to experience the hype over ics
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put me down for 20 im excited to experience the hype over ics
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Download the sdk you can play with it a little .....
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20 from me also
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Download the sdk you can play with it a little .....
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It just isn't the same unless ive got it in my hand.
Wow! Others want ICS as bad as me!
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20 from me also
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Due to the rapid responses and at least one for even more than $20, we might get this REWARD up to 4 figures within 24 hours which would be an awesome stimulant for thosE capable of compiling a ROM for our beloved Sprint E4GT.
EVERYONE: Seems this thread has been moved to GENERAL. I don't care if they but it under LIEUTENANT or even CORPORAL as long as we get our ROM ASAP! Thanks y'all and tell your friends so we can make the total reward even more enticing and get our ICE CREAM SANDWICH even sooner!
UPDATE: We're already up to $165. GO TEAM GO !!!
I seen bounty threads in the past. The just don't work from what I saw. It's easy to pledge, but, when the day comes to paying it's just as easy to forget.
Personally I believe a bounty should be more organized. There should be a pot that people donate to. So, the money is actually there to help entice any developer to get more motivated. That would eliminate half ass promises. With this system we will be able to tell how much money one can make for fulfilling the desired request. Problem is deciding who is trustworthy enough to handle this pot.
If this system is somehow adopted I will be donating to the cause.
personally i was the first one to provide my confirmed donation for the OG Evo wimax on AOSP thread, so its on the honor policy. True there could be better ways to entice, but this is a start.
@OP - usually the subject of the thread is modified with the date and pledge amount total
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I seen bounty threads in the past. The just don't work from what I saw. It's easy to pledge, but, when the day comes to paying it's just as easy to forget.
Personally I believe a bounty should be more organized. There should be a pot that people donate to. So, the money is actually there to help entice any developer to get more motivated. That would eliminate half ass promises. With this system we will be able to tell how much money one can make for fulfilling the desired request. Problem is deciding who is trustworthy enough to handle this pot.
If this system is somehow adopted I will be donating to the cause.
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exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
Ill drop $35.0 if its even possible without source. Which you would probably need lots of luck.
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exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
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Yep, I wonder how many edited posts we'll see in here. lol
subbed!
dis gon be gud
is dat sum bounty thread?
...this never ends well...
Avoiding Broken Donation Promises
elliwigy said:
exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
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Idea: Everyone who posts on this thread is giving us their XDA ID info. When it comes time for all of us to "pay up" I'd be happy to post a Shame Page to let everyone know whose word is worthless.
P.S. I'm also good as exposing "bad people" because criminals routinely try to purchase my software, printers & MICR cartridges or use them to commit crimes so I regularly help law enforcement catch and convict them via my Criminal Alerts page
OK people, let me know what you think or offer your own ideas!
keeping y'all honest !
Here are the people who have promised to donate so far. Maybe they can remove their posts but they can't remove mine!
$20 weltwon
$20 xlGmanlx
$20 ilostmypistons
$25 digweed4me
$20 ehusidic
$20 expr
$35 humdrum2009
$160 Current Total
It's the HONOR SYSTEM. If you want the ROM and have any honor, post your $20 message below. I will continue updating the donors and total until we get the Ice Cream Sandwich ROM for our Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch!
Let's get this thread going by listing donations we've made and to which developers. No need to post amounts as no matter how large or small your donation is, I'm sure the awesome devs will still appreciate it. The OP will be updated to list member names please be honest, we don't want a thread with fake donations. The devs for this phone deserve better than that! Thanks community.
Ah the vanity....
Well intended, I know, but...
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I think many would like to keep this private and see this as bragging. To me, it becomes about ego and false pride if you have to tell others about your charity.
But to each his own I guess.
I've given support to many in many devs in many different device forums, over the years because I appreciate the skill, time and work they put into it. Not large sums by any means but at least something when I can/I]. But I believe most devs do it for the fun of learning and tinkering. And then just getting some well deserved thanks is a huge thing (or is/was in my case) I know the donations are certainly appreciated and help give some motivation and cover expenses but some people just can't give all the time.
That's just my two cents - from an older guy who's been a tinkering with systems since when we actually had to write code on a punch card machine.
dang
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...
I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)
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I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)
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Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...
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If a dev is in it for the Donations, Then why would you want there work any way. You do not get the best work from people that do it for money. Oh and just to let you know they are not getting very much and that is not the reason we dev. We dev because it is fun.
Though I've seen a lot of people post their confirmation of donation in an open thread, I choose to donate privately when I am able to give at all. Though I'm not able to give as much as I would like for the amazing work we are given, I hope my fawning adoration makes up for it.
Stupid thanks limit
Word to the wise. Never donate to any "developer" asking for donations before any rom/kernel is released. Ive kept my eye on the whole swamp goblin donation scam. That seems to happen alot around different sites. I would think a user who pulls a scam like that would be banned? Its gotta be against xda rules?
Edit: Just checked Swamp Goblins Profile, He hasnt posted anything anywhere sense June 21, 2012.
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Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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The Dev performed the disappearing act...
Swamp Goblin doesn't believe he actually asked for donations, I think it's a perception issue.
I understand Devs have real lives and don't get paid for what they do (aside from occasional donations) therefore they are beholden to no one for ETAs, however when you request help to get a specific phone and promise a product for it then you do have an obligation to at least stay present in the situation. That doesn't mean you have to have it complete but you do need to be active in letting people know what's going on.
Also I agree with a post made in another thread regarding this, if you know you are too busy to put full effort towards a project on which you asked for a donated phone, then you shouldn't have ever started the process until such time when you were unencumbered by so much other stuff. I have to say that people were incredibly tolerant with his lack of output for quite some time and should be acknowledged for that, it has only been recently that people have grown wary of his actual intentions and started to question his motives directly.
My only real issue with the guy (other than his lengthy absences from posting any sort of information) is that he once commented that he was struggling with the sense build so he was going to spend time working on another ROM for another phone and then return to the E4GT. I don't recall exactly where it was and it may have even been edited by now but at the time I felt something was off.
Initially many of us were excited at the prospect of sense and may have allowed that excitement to color our normal judgement, I was in on the initial push to help him find a phone but I was looking at ebay and places where he might pick one up with his own money. Nevertheless, bygones I suppose.
Now, with all that said, I would hope these few instances of possible scams don't discourage people from donating. My only advice would be to pay attention to the Developer's work, reputation, support for existing products and interaction here on the forums. When we donate we do so in good faith and I'm happy to say that with the vast majority of the Devs here, we are well paid in return.
Sorry guys, but this thread is not a good idea at all. Just got off the phone with Cleo (yea, I'm that old) and she says she sees alot of name calling, pointing fingers, and bickering in this threads future. So I have to go with what she says.
---Jay--- From the Nexus
This is the official buildbox support thread. Many of you are probably wondering what a buildbox is... I will try to explain without getting too far sidetracked!
---Purpose---We are trying to raise money in support of multiple roms/devs. This is not for one particular dev, nor is it one particular rom. Consider this a donation to the community in which you are a part of. This is helping the devs have more resources at their disposal, and ultimately, helping you have a better rom! Please read below for more of an explanation.
---What is buildbox?---For the open source community (CM10, Paranoid Android, CNA, etc), the roms are built from source. Doing this is not very easy, nor is it quick! It takes a lot of time and effort. I don't want to simply 'thank' the devs and leave it at that. So, I have made a contribution to the open source community. I have commited a powerful server to the devs that choose to use it for building open source roms.
Now you say, "So what... they could use their own computer and build roms..."
Yes, they could. However, look at this. For many devs (especially since ICS and above), the build times have increased significantly!! I'm talking 4+ hours in some cases! In steps the buildbox. The buildbox (in it's current condition) has cut most build times to between 20 and 30 mins.
Then you ask, "Why does that matter to me?" Well, the quicker the rom is done, the quicker we discover bugs, and, in turn, can FIX bugs! Think about it: If you were waiting in the lobby at the car dealership for some work to be done and it was going to take 3 hours to complete the work, you wait. You aren't getting anything done. Now, if you were able to speed the process up to 25 min, you could get much more done that day because you aren't stuck for over 3 hours!
---Why does this matter to you?---Maybe more choices of roms, maybe nightlies of your favorite roms, maybe less bugs! A small donation toward our goal will help keep the hardware current and allow for the devs to get the great benefit of a powerful machine. Hard drive space is quickly filling up, the RAM is over full utilization, and other hardware improvements can be made.
-=Current goal=-
buildbox project (must have flash).PayPal here:
Any donations and/or support are greatly appreciated.
Currently supported devs (a big thanks goes out to them and their work!): Phantomphreak53 (CM10 nightlies), kbizzle (Paranoid Android SG3 and SG2), and justlovejoy (CNA). These devs have great talents and more work to come. Support the project for them and for your own benefit.
PS: If anyone is looking for more info, has suggestions, or is interested in the project, feel free to pm me. All of the devs can vouch for me (even a couple not listed here). This is a legitimate request. We are counting on the open source community to keep this project going strong.
tl;dr, support open source development and make a donation to the development tools!
I use to donate to Developers, because they spend time developing instead studying, hanging with friends or family etc.
But to be honest, and judging about other threads by you. This sounds more like: "i want a new computer" than "lets help the community".
I hope to be wrong.
Yeah I'll donate when devs step forward using it. And there is a particular piece of hardware you can mention.. ..also couldn't were just use our if it doesn't exist try to start a opencl/direct compute gcc and so on? Hell air crack NG allows for networked opencl of 32 devices 1 high end graphics card is equal to more then 10 high end cpus
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csmasn said:
I use to donate to Developers, because they spend time developing instead studying, hanging with friends or family etc.
But to be honest, and judging about other threads by you. This sounds more like: "i want a new computer" than "lets help the community".
I hope to be wrong.
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Ok, basketthis first and foremost isn't trying to get a new computer. I personally use his box to build roms for two devices currently. If he hadn't provided the machine to turn my 4 hour build times into 30 min, I would be left standing with my d*ck in my hand, just trying to work with one device in a timely manner. A donation is simply that. So all I ask is that you don't come in here and bash him for just trying to give back to the community in his own way. It's his bandwidth and electronics we are using and over time, they will need to be paid for and upgraded. If you don't know the Devs or use their roms, that's fine but don't throw accusations around to try and deface a member of this great community.
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Ok, basketthis first and foremost isn't trying to get a new computer. I personally use his box to build roms for two devices currently. If he hadn't provided the machine to turn my 4 hour build times into 30 min, I would be left standing with my d*ck in my hand, just trying to work with one device in a timely manner. A donation is simply that. So all I ask is that you don't come in here and bash him for just trying to give back to the community in his own way. It's his bandwidth and electronics we are using and over time, they will need to be paid for and upgraded. If you don't know the Devs or use their roms, that's fine but don't throw accusations around to try and deface a member of this great community.
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And there is your Dev stepping forward
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If anyone has any questions or doubts, please click on the "chipin" link I have provided toward the bottom of the first post. There is more info there.
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Ok, basketthis first and foremost isn't trying to get a new computer. I personally use his box to build roms for two devices currently. If he hadn't provided the machine to turn my 4 hour build times into 30 min, I would be left standing with my d*ck in my hand, just trying to work with one device in a timely manner. A donation is simply that. So all I ask is that you don't come in here and bash him for just trying to give back to the community in his own way. It's his bandwidth and electronics we are using and over time, they will need to be paid for and upgraded. If you don't know the Devs or use their roms, that's fine but don't throw accusations around to try and deface a member of this great community.
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You use his box. That cover it all.
Thank you. I was wrong and thats make me happy.
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The more understanding, the better. This tool is out there for the devs and we want to make it better so more devs can get involved. Who knows, it may be a dev that ends up developing for your next phone... The possibilities are endless with community involvement.
Received a donation. I've committed to match anyone else's donation up to 50 dollars. Would like to see this project continue. I will do everything I can to help. Can't wait to get my hands dirty on some upgrades for these devs! They deserve it!
Got the chipin/PayPal sites working together. The chipin site now reflects donation status.
Bump.
This guy is already hosting a build box for Kbizzle, which has made it easier to build his ROMs. I personally think this is well worth a donation, even if it's just $1...
Next time you donate to your favorite developer, send this guy a small donation to help keep the build boxes up and running.
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I would like to give a bit to help out the guys making these great roms and such, but I have a question...
What is generally considered a fair amount? Im not a rich guy or anything but I dont want to make a donation that might be considered insulting.
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I would like to give a bit to help out the guys making these great roms and such, but I have a question...
What is generally considered a fair amount? Im not a rich guy or anything but I dont want to make a donation that might be considered insulting.
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Any donation is better than none. The devs will be thankful for whatever you can afford. I have seen donations as small as a single dollar all the way up to 100 dollars.
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There is no minimum or maximum amount ...as mentioned above...
I've donated to several developers over the years...and generally spend $25.00 to $50.00....
It is money well spent....and also lets our devs know we appreciate the countless hours of work...
$50.00 is a good chunk of cash...but if a dev takes 24-48 hours to compile a rom....then they get $1.00 to $2.00 dollars per hour for that $50.00 given...
A buck an hour isn't much for all of that time away from Family and Friends to give us great work....
The more we give...the more we get...
Don't break the bank....but give what you can...and I promise it will come back to you....in many forms....g
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Lots of developer donation links say "buy me a beer" or "buy me a coffee", so anyone can afford to do that.
We dont expect anything man. We are greatful regardless if its 50 dollars or if its 2 dollars.
Regards,
eZ
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ericpbritt said:
I would like to give a bit to help out the guys making these great roms and such, but I have a question...
What is generally considered a fair amount? Im not a rich guy or anything but I dont want to make a donation that might be considered insulting.
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Very thoughtful and considerate post...