hi guys,i've 2 question about s-off procedure:
1- if i make the s-off,i'll nedd an ext partition on my sd anyway in order to have more memory for install programms or there is some other solution?
2- i saw in the development section that there are some rom only for s-off device,what are the differences with other modded rom?(are more responsive,smooth, or wath)
therefore,it worth to make s-off or not?
thanks
Going s-off will allow you to modify the system partitions in the phone itself. Depending on the ROM you use, you can gain more internal memory from going s-off. I think the only ROM's that require s-off are the new Sense3.0 ROM's and that's because they have you flash custom partitions.
When you run the s-off procedure, your partitions won't change in size until you download the Hboot file that you want and flash it via fastboot or a flashing utility.
Make sure you know what you're doing and understand everything before doing this. It's one of the few things that can brick your phone if it fails.
than aren't the s-off rom better than the "normal" modded rom?
if there are not advantages...i' ll not do the s-off procedure because i' m not sure to complete the procedure in the right way!!!
thank you jordan.harris01
Don't do it if you feel comfortable doing it but I think you misunderstood me. The advantage to it is you get more space on your internal memory so you don't need to rely on A2SD and things like that which can run slower as they are pulling data from your SD card.
Going s-off is the only way you can change the system partition sizes to gain more internal memory.
aaahhhh...ok! now i understood what u mean.thank u very much for the explaination
i'll think about do or not the s-off...
Any tutorial on how to s-off and install cm7?
felix1318 said:
Any tutorial on how to s-off and install cm7?
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One of the tutorials -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805811
Thank you!
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I'm new to this rooting/flashing thing, so please go easy with me
I have a GSM Desire which I've rooted and installed ClockworkMod Recovery.
It is still S-ON.
Aim is to add a ROM with apps2sd to enable an ext partition on SD card.
So now at point where I want to flash a new ROM. Done a fair bit of searching but
still unsure whether this requires S-OFF.
Is S-OFF required to flash a ROM from recovery?
If so, any pointer to best way to do this please? Alpharev?
Or is S-OFF only required if altering the system partition when phone is running normally?
Any tips appreciated.
PeteW said:
I'm new to this rooting/flashing thing, so please go easy with me
I have a GSM Desire which I've rooted and installed ClockworkMod Recovery.
It is still S-ON.
Aim is to add a ROM with apps2sd to enable an ext partition on SD card.
So now at point where I want to flash a new ROM. Done a fair bit of searching but
still unsure whether this requires S-OFF.
Is S-OFF required to flash a ROM from recovery?
If so, any pointer to best way to do this please? Alpharev?
Or is S-OFF only required if altering the system partition when phone is running normally?
Any tips appreciated.
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you need to s-off and alpharev is the way to go
You don't need S-off to flash a rom.
AlphaRev is the only way to S-off a GSM desire.
S-off allows write access to the system partition while booted, alternative hboob layouts, changing splash screen and some fastboot commands.
But for the things you mentioned you don't need it.
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hboob layouts
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Sorry he means Hboot, FYI that typo made me LOL hard!
i did mine about a year ago via the ancient gold card method but i assume there's easier ways to do it now?
could i just just straight to getting s-off add the clockwork mod recovery, backup, flash new hboot, install new rom?
Use a app called unrevoked on your pc, very easy to do, no need for s-off.
I have never seen the need to s-off my phone, I stick with stock H-Boot and custom stock ROMs.
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Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?
hiteshjivani said:
Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?
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1sec ill check rom for you
hiteshjivani said:
Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?
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no you don't but if you s-off you can install custom hboots which give you more memory, but they are not necessary and you should do fine if you have an ext partition on your sd card. If you run out of memory you can install the zip to move dalvik cache to the sd card.
you can create a ext partition with rom manager just choose 512mb of ext and no swap
Installation
Perform a wipe of /data and /cache if coming from any other ROM
Download and install the ROM via recovery as you would any other ROM
You dont need s-off install on stock H-Boot
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no you don't but if you s-off you can install custom hboots which give you more memory, but they are not necessary and you should do fine if you have an ext partition on your sd card. If you run out of memory you can install the zip to move dalvik cache to the sd card.
you can create a ext partition with rom manager just choose 512mb of ext and no swap
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Or better go and install a ROM with data2sd my insternal memory is 2GB
Use the Unrevoked method so easy even i did it first time right all you need is to install android usb drivers and hook the desire up to the PC and the unrevoked program does it for you. the instructions are on their web site. And as to s-off there is not much need for it unless you really want to flash a cm7 hboot or something but there are plenty of roms that dont need it.
usb drivers are all good to go. i use adb on my desire anyway
i'll do the unrevoked method then and s-off after backups. (going to install oxygen for him). he's fed up of his desires battery life
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I rooted my desire with unrevoked, a friends hero with one click, another desire with unrevoked, nexus one with gold card and a SE x8 with z4 i think or one click..
I ALWAYS told them i'll be doing it at their own risk!
tommo123 said:
usb drivers are all good to go. i use adb on my desire anyway
i'll do the unrevoked method then and s-off after backups. (going to install oxygen for him). he's fed up of his desires battery life
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Just make sure he knows the risks of rooting, warranty, etc, although nothing will go wrong. As for s-off, I've never really had a need to do it. Also if someone is asking you to root there phone for them do you really want them having full root with s-off. I don't know if I would give someone who doesn't know what they are doing full access to any and all system files. That's just me though because I know some people can be pretty technology stupid.
he just wants the kind of batt life i get with mine and need s-off to flash the cm7 hboot for the extra data space since otherwise would need to throw in an ext partition and if he ever swaps the sd card out ..........
he wouldn't know how to do anything regarding adb to screw things up.
i have mentioned 'at your risk' though.
shankly1985 said:
Installation
Perform a wipe of /data and /cache if coming from any other ROM
Download and install the ROM via recovery as you would any other ROM
You dont need s-off install on stock H-Boot
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But i think you have to renember that you can find two diffetent versions of ROM . Cm7 wich need s off and a2sd or a2sd+ wich works fine on stock hboot.
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Hi,
Just getting back into phone mods (used to own windows Touch HD) and recently did the HTC upgrade to gingerbread (which worked fine).
My problem is running out of space all the time... so I followed the instructions to use unrevoked tool (http://revolutionary.io/) to s-off the phone and install clockwork mod recovery.
But what now?
I would initially just want to have the official rom but be able to use the SD card for more space...
I am confused with talk of cm7r2 hboot, which rom to use, will the rom work with what I have and is my phone even rooted??
I don't suppose there is anyone out there that can spell out clearly my next steps??
Thanks in advance
First of all congrats that you have successfully managed to root and S-Off your phone..
Hboot is something that decides who your phone's internal memory is partitioned..for now you have stock hboot..which has partition like the following system 250MB cache 40MB data 147MB
Cm7r2 has system 145MB cache5MB 287MB
this is because requirement of Stock hboot based roms and Cm7r2 Roms are different..
My advice is for now you can used A2sd+ roms which can be installed on stock hboot with the help of recovery.
You will find roms over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
If you want basic Gingerbread rom try from Sense 1.9/2.1 (GingerBread): section
Also to use a2sd+ u need to partition your memory card..
you can find all details in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Hope it helps
Have I actually rooted the phone... I don't think I have???
Oif you read the revolutionary documentation, there is a zip to flash for root
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I think this is what I need... ROM] [20/08] Pre-rooted Stock Gingerbread (3.14.405.1) [Optional Mods]
I didn't use the zip to flash for root as was worried if there were different options...
It is SOOO confusing... need to keep reading!
hi guys,
today i made the s-off on my desire and i've question:
first of all,how can i check if the procedure is gone well?
i was using the cyanogenmod 7 with stock hboot and a 1gb ext3 partition on my sd;i still need the partition now?
how can i install other hboot?
and how can i flash a rom for s-off desire?till now i flash rom from recovery,but now?
thank you very very much guys
renji said:
hi guys,
today i made the s-off on my desire and i've question:
first of all,how can i check if the procedure is gone well?
i was using the cyanogenmod 7 with stock hboot and a 1gb ext3 partition on my sd;i still need the partition now?
how can i install other hboot?
and how can i flash a rom for s-off desire?till now i flash rom from recovery,but now?
thank you very very much guys
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I cannot answer all your questions, but there is a tutorial in the development section, where you can read about most of these things. If you still have questions afterwards, ask then.
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For S-OFF, you should see at the top of hboot screen (Powering with volume button) "S-OFF".
1 GB sd-ext would be enough, i have lots of programs inside, taking just 340 mbs.
For other hboots, please read the first thread about "how to -- root, s-off, hboot etc."
You will use the same way, (recovery-install zip-choose zip..."
Enjoy CM
as quoted above hboot to check your s-off,if you are s-off you have more options available to you,but you can only flash stock hboot roms.if you wish to flash cm7 or cm7/r2 you must flash your hboot to change it...
would recommend ext4 recovery,with this you can partition your sd card,align it,and convert from ext to ext 4 etc.
fastboot comander for flashing your hboot,its more nOOb friendly
please follow all rom instructions to the letter,or you will end up with lagg and freeze issues,read up on the nOOb instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Hi guys,thank you very much for the usefull answears!
Just another question :the ext partition should be 3 or 4?does it depend by the Rom i wanna flash?
renji said:
Hi guys,thank you very much for the usefull answears!
Just another question :the ext partition should be 3 or 4?does it depend by the Rom i wanna flash?
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You need ext4 to most recent ROMs. 4ext recovery can convert partition formats without loss of data.
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Thx coempi
Hey Guys,
Longtime no see.
Last Android I ran was a nook color that I flashed with gingerbread and that was a whole other kettle of fish.
I was donated a HTC Desire GSM and couldn't help myself and rooted it with unrevoked.
Then I updated the rom to Nikez Lentes ICS rom and I am very happy with it.
Now, I installed CWM and when it flashes it says that it is V5.0.2 but when I boot into recovery it is actually V2.5.0.
After a bit of reading I see that the author of the ROM and others and now using 4EXT Recovery so I bought that and went to give it a go but the S-ON is stopping it ( I booted into recovery and indeed it is S-ON currently ).
So reading up on how to turn ON to OFF I see unrevoked and alpharev have a solution for windows and linux only. ( I have VM windows and a raspberry pi linux ( but i assume the pi would be too underpowered to do this update))
I have read the wiki and read on the FAQ on this site that if you are not running the stock HTC rom that there could be an issue, is that correct ?
After all this, I am really just trying to make a Ext-SD partition on my SD card, cause the rom is like 120mb of the 140mb internal partition and I can't install enough apps to be happy.. lol.
I have the CWR image of V5.0.2 but am not sure really how to update it ( V2.5 is green text and V5.0 is blue so im sure I have the older version )
Or im happy to use 4EXT for my rom needs, but I need to change my S-ON to OFF to be able to flash the recovery and partition it that way.
If anyone can help that would be great, the whole setup has been rather painless and i'd like to keep it that way, I need the phone to work, but I would like to install more apps on the phone. The ROM also has a script built in so that is not the problem, just making a partition on the SD card really is what I need right now.
Thanks,
Steve
would it be because im currently S-OFF that I can't flash recovery above V2.5.0 or install 4EXT Recovery ?
Are you SON or SOFF ? Write down what your bootloader says.
1. Alpharev quote
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I dont know whether it will work with ICS though. I wouldnt try it since this is a bootloader mod. Maybe best to go stock rooted rom before running alpharev.
Revolutionary is the other option for getting soff.
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
steveb_123 said:
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
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Read my post. Best to go to a stock rooted rom before running alpharev. Thereafter flash 4ext. Partition your sdcard with 4ext. Flash rom of your choice.
Can I ask why it is better to go to a stock rooted rom ?
Installing the stock rom, and stock radio, to then run alpharev, to then root, to then install 4ext, sounds like a lot of work just to unlock the S-ON.
That is alpharev requirement. Read my first post.
Link for rooted stock romlink
Where does it say you need to run a stock rooted rom ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
the stock rooted rom that is U (updated) seems to be pulled and this guy has a URL at the top saying he has pulled the rom due to internal XDA fights.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
My suggestion is to run 2.3 ruu from htc dev and then use revolutionary, two flies in one hit, s-off and custom recovery, and then flashing su over recovery. Though you'll get cwm recovery after first boot you'll be able to flash 4ext.
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Thanks for that nloooo,
I downloaded, unrar'd and unzipped the folder and can see the 2.3 RUU exe there, so I just run that in a windows machine ?
then rev, then reflash you are suggesting ?
is it worth trying revolutionary without returning to stock RUU and if it doesn't work, then installing the 2.3 RUU ?
It alk depends on hboit version your phone has. If it is 0.93 or 1.02 than it should work no matter which rom you have. I'm suggesting 2.3 ruu cause you'll get 1.02 hboot and you're good to go.
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My hboot is 0.93.
If 0.93 + revolutionary could work, I would prefer to do it that way because I am very green playing with android (mostly just use non-jailbroken apple gear) But I am loving the desire + ICS.
Thank you handy and nlooo for replying.
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
steveb_123 said:
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
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You can always try, if it doesn't work you won't have any problems phone will work the same.
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Thanks nlooo, you've been a huge help