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[Q] Replacing recovery

Hello everyone, I'm a newbie here, so go easy on me, OK?
Well, I have (generic) stock HTC 2.2 (2.29.405.5) Desire (GSM), bravo ptv1 ship s-on, hboot - 0.93.0001, radio 5.11.05.27. I rooted it using unrEVOked latest issue on Linux Ubuntu. Rooting went perfectly good, I gained root access and Clockwork recovery.
My question is: how to replace Clockwork recovery with Amon Ra? Wich way is the quickiest and least painful for an average user?
Than you all in advance, cheers!

well, you either must unroot, then while rooting again choose amonra recovery in unrevoked or go S-OFF and flash new recovery image through fastboot

Thanks, I just tried flashing it thru Terminal Emulator, but it gave me error "flash_image: not found", so I guess it has something do to with root access. NMV.
How do I choose Amon Ra recovery for unrEVOked, it only gave me Clockwork? Remember, I'm under Ubuntu, so I can't pick recovery in unrEVOked UI.

no idea how to do that in linux, consider going S-OFF ?
i used CD method, was as easy as rooting, one thing required - a rom without A2SD+ or DATA2xxx

dzumagos said:
no idea how to do that in linux, consider going S-OFF ?
i used CD method, was as easy as rooting, one thing required - a rom without A2SD+ or DATA2xxx
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Seconded, s-off by live CD comparable to rooting, and after s-off you can also resize your partition tables and delete unneeded apps whilst booted via Ti backup or root explorer.
Well worth the time!

S-OFF is driving me nuts
How are my chances to make a wll worthy paper holder out of phone? And, do I still need to mess with adb after s-off in order to restore funcionality to rom?

voolandis said:
S-OFF is driving me nuts
How are my chances to make a wll worthy paper holder out of phone? And, do I still need to mess with adb after s-off in order to restore funcionality to rom?
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There are several detailed threads about s-off, ok small chance of bricking phone, but really tiny as long as you follow instructions and take your time. Same as rooting!
Read some threads and go through the information at alpharev site carefully:
http://alpharev.nl/
After doing it just restore the nandroid you made before starting...

ok, been asked to root someone elses phone?

i did mine about a year ago via the ancient gold card method but i assume there's easier ways to do it now?
could i just just straight to getting s-off add the clockwork mod recovery, backup, flash new hboot, install new rom?

Use a app called unrevoked on your pc, very easy to do, no need for s-off.
I have never seen the need to s-off my phone, I stick with stock H-Boot and custom stock ROMs.

Rooting
Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?

hiteshjivani said:
Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?
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1sec ill check rom for you

hiteshjivani said:
Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?
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no you don't but if you s-off you can install custom hboots which give you more memory, but they are not necessary and you should do fine if you have an ext partition on your sd card. If you run out of memory you can install the zip to move dalvik cache to the sd card.
you can create a ext partition with rom manager just choose 512mb of ext and no swap

Installation
Perform a wipe of /data and /cache if coming from any other ROM
Download and install the ROM via recovery as you would any other ROM
You dont need s-off install on stock H-Boot

theyau said:
no you don't but if you s-off you can install custom hboots which give you more memory, but they are not necessary and you should do fine if you have an ext partition on your sd card. If you run out of memory you can install the zip to move dalvik cache to the sd card.
you can create a ext partition with rom manager just choose 512mb of ext and no swap
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Or better go and install a ROM with data2sd my insternal memory is 2GB

Use the Unrevoked method so easy even i did it first time right all you need is to install android usb drivers and hook the desire up to the PC and the unrevoked program does it for you. the instructions are on their web site. And as to s-off there is not much need for it unless you really want to flash a cm7 hboot or something but there are plenty of roms that dont need it.

usb drivers are all good to go. i use adb on my desire anyway
i'll do the unrevoked method then and s-off after backups. (going to install oxygen for him). he's fed up of his desires battery life

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I rooted my desire with unrevoked, a friends hero with one click, another desire with unrevoked, nexus one with gold card and a SE x8 with z4 i think or one click..
I ALWAYS told them i'll be doing it at their own risk!

tommo123 said:
usb drivers are all good to go. i use adb on my desire anyway
i'll do the unrevoked method then and s-off after backups. (going to install oxygen for him). he's fed up of his desires battery life
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Just make sure he knows the risks of rooting, warranty, etc, although nothing will go wrong. As for s-off, I've never really had a need to do it. Also if someone is asking you to root there phone for them do you really want them having full root with s-off. I don't know if I would give someone who doesn't know what they are doing full access to any and all system files. That's just me though because I know some people can be pretty technology stupid.

he just wants the kind of batt life i get with mine and need s-off to flash the cm7 hboot for the extra data space since otherwise would need to throw in an ext partition and if he ever swaps the sd card out ..........
he wouldn't know how to do anything regarding adb to screw things up.
i have mentioned 'at your risk' though.

shankly1985 said:
Installation
Perform a wipe of /data and /cache if coming from any other ROM
Download and install the ROM via recovery as you would any other ROM
You dont need s-off install on stock H-Boot
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But i think you have to renember that you can find two diffetent versions of ROM . Cm7 wich need s off and a2sd or a2sd+ wich works fine on stock hboot.
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S-OFF:yes or no???

hi guys,i've 2 question about s-off procedure:
1- if i make the s-off,i'll nedd an ext partition on my sd anyway in order to have more memory for install programms or there is some other solution?
2- i saw in the development section that there are some rom only for s-off device,what are the differences with other modded rom?(are more responsive,smooth, or wath)
therefore,it worth to make s-off or not?
thanks

Going s-off will allow you to modify the system partitions in the phone itself. Depending on the ROM you use, you can gain more internal memory from going s-off. I think the only ROM's that require s-off are the new Sense3.0 ROM's and that's because they have you flash custom partitions.
When you run the s-off procedure, your partitions won't change in size until you download the Hboot file that you want and flash it via fastboot or a flashing utility.
Make sure you know what you're doing and understand everything before doing this. It's one of the few things that can brick your phone if it fails.

than aren't the s-off rom better than the "normal" modded rom?
if there are not advantages...i' ll not do the s-off procedure because i' m not sure to complete the procedure in the right way!!!
thank you jordan.harris01

Don't do it if you feel comfortable doing it but I think you misunderstood me. The advantage to it is you get more space on your internal memory so you don't need to rely on A2SD and things like that which can run slower as they are pulling data from your SD card.
Going s-off is the only way you can change the system partition sizes to gain more internal memory.

aaahhhh...ok! now i understood what u mean.thank u very much for the explaination
i'll think about do or not the s-off...

Any tutorial on how to s-off and install cm7?

felix1318 said:
Any tutorial on how to s-off and install cm7?
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One of the tutorials -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805811

Thank you!

Desire Bravo. I have s-off want to root (or flash runnyRom)

Hello guys, I bought an HTC Desire Bravo from ebay. It is already S-OFF but the rom is not rooted. I want to either root the current rom or even better install runnyRom. I tried unrevoked and I get a "CID is missing" error. From what I read it has to do with my phone being already s-off.
Right now it has Android 2.2 running. So what can I do to install runny rom? Thanks in advance.

Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.

sthbr82 said:
Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.
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Sorry. If some administrator can move it...please do.

try http://unlockroot.com/

try this http://revolutionary.io/

sthbr82 said:
Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.
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This is Q&A. Make sure YOU know where u r before having a go at others "dude"! Lol. Go to stickies and read bortaks guide
Sent from my HTC Desire

panagath said:
Hello guys, I bought an HTC Desire Bravo from ebay. It is already S-OFF but the rom is not rooted. I want to either root the current rom or even better install runnyRom. I tried unrevoked and I get a "CID is missing" error. From what I read it has to do with my phone being already s-off.
Right now it has Android 2.2 running. So what can I do to install runny rom? Thanks in advance.
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U r already s-off... Hope u r sure about that... Coz that means u r already rooted...
To flash runny Rom u vll need a touch recovery.... I would recommend 4ext recovery.... Link in my signature...
Also partition ur sd card... 1gb should be enough... Do it by 4ext recovery...

akhillad said:
U r already s-off... Hope u r sure about that... Coz that means u r already rooted...
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s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash the recovery.img through fastboot (google how to install drivers)
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).

eddiehk6 said:
s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash it through fastboot (google how to install drivers) or the app
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).
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Exactly more info in bortaks guide (stickies) go down too Number 11 in guide.
Sent from my HTC Desire

eddiehk6 said:
s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash the recovery.img through fastboot (google how to install drivers)
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).
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Thanks for the info....
Never knew this fact...

How Do I flash my HTC Desire A8181

Hi, can anyone please help me in flashing a rom to my HTC Desire A8181. I am really frustrated with my phone because it has a very limited build-in storage which is a problem when I want to download app that is really big. Besides, it is really slow. So, I have decided that I want to flash a rom to make it runs faster and have more storage after deleting the default OS.
Currently, my OS is Android 2.2.2, I have tried to update it online but it says there's nothing to update to. I have not rooted my device before. Is there a way to just flash the rom and not root the device. If there isn't, doesn't matter. But can you please tell me the process of it, I really don't any of it, I have searched the forum but I am stuck at the s-off because I don't understand anything further than that.
Furthermore, what rom do you recommend so that my device will be running fast and smooth?
Thanks!

This is the process: S-off > install custom recovery > flash rom
To s-off you will need to use revolutionary. Boot into hboot (turn phone off then boot up using volume down + power). You will see the hboot version at the top. In order to use revolutionary your hboot needs to be 0.93.0001 or 1.02.0001, so hope its one of those.
Once youve s-offed Id recommend installing 4ext recovery. You will also need to create an ext partition (and optionally install an optimized hboot to gain more internal space for app data). Once thats done pick a rom and flash it. I would suggest any of mildwilds roms.

Chromium_ said:
This is the process: S-off > install custom recovery > flash rom
To s-off you will need to use revolutionary. Boot into hboot (turn phone off then boot up using volume down + power). You will see the hboot version at the top. In order to use revolutionary your hboot needs to be 0.93.0001 or 1.02.0001, so hope its one of those.
Once youve s-offed Id recommend installing 4ext recovery. You will also need to create an ext partition (and optionally install an optimized hboot to gain more internal space for app data). Once thats done pick a rom and flash it. I would suggest any of mildwilds roms.
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Ok, so 4ext Recovery is to backup my phone? Besides, can you please tell me why do I need to create an ext partition. What is the ext partition for? Thanks! Yes, my hboot is 0.93.0001. BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON

Erenjag said:
Ok, so 4ext Recovery is to backup my phone? Besides, can you please tell me why do I need to create an ext partition. What is the ext partition for? Thanks! Yes, my hboot is 0.93.0001. BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON
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You use 4ext Recovery to Nandroid backup your rom - if anything goes wrong while flashing custom rom you can revert back to previous state.
ext partition (recommend 1gb ext4) is primarily for App2SD (can also be done via 4ext recovery).
Consider changing HBOOT to Oxygen r2 to expand maximum internal memory once s-off have been achieved.
I also recommend Mildwild Roms.

Thanks guys! I have successfully rooted my device, flashed the mildwild rom and created an ext-partition in my sd card. Really appreciate all your help!

Can someone please help give me the procedure to do this flashing process???

n.aris442 said:
Can someone please help give me the procedure to do this flashing process???
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What do You want flash a custom rom? Then you need to s off which will allow you to flash the rom from recovery instead of unlocking the bootloader that u have to use fastboot to flash rom you can also root your phone if u want to.
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lilsafbig said:
What do You want flash a custom rom? Then you need to s off which will allow you to flash the rom from recovery instead of unlocking the bootloader that u have to use fastboot to flash rom you can also root your phone if u want to.
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U dont flash a rom via fastboot, always in recovery.

jmcclue said:
U dont flash a rom via fastboot, always in recovery.
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Even in s on? The boot.IMG
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lilsafbig said:
Even in s on? The boot.IMG
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Yh well the boot.img is not the rom, its basically the kernel.