Tierd data - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

Is that just for one line or if ypu have a family plan and get the 5g will it go for both lines
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well seeing as how there is currently no shared data plan for family plans atm, it will probably be per line, not per family account.

The majority of people use 2gb of data so that's $30. Right now data cost 30$ so this won't affect the majority. Power users use more than 2 using anywhere from 5-10gb so these power users have to pay extra because Verizon loves money. I use 6gb and sometimes 8gb so ill worry about this when I grab my Droid Incredible 3
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gdi2290 said:
The majority of people use 2gb of data so that's $30. Right now data cost 30$ so this won't affect the majority. Power users use more than 2 using anywhere from 5-10gb so these power users have to pay extra because Verizon loves money. I use 6gb and sometimes 8gb so ill worry about this when I grab my Droid Incredible 3
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Yea these plans are outrageous...I'm never upgrading...ill switch to Sprint or t mobile...or ill buy off contract..
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Thats dumb im already paying 186 for two phones
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This tired plan really should be renamed to "lower caps and more money plans"..... I'm not entirely sure how on earth anyone could think this is good for the end users.

Wait ... can someone please tell me if I'm on a family plan with 3 Smart phones (my Inc2, and 2 Droid Charges) with the unlimited data, when we upgrade or renew our contract, do we get to keep our unlimited data? Or is it unclear to everyone at this moment?

If you renew your contract, you are no longer grandfathered as you are agreeing to new terms. If you have current data plans with no intention to change/renew in the near future, you are covered with unlimited data. If you buy your device at retail without renewing your contract, your contract should remain the same.
More than likely if you have an unlimited plan, you will eventually start being harassed by Verizon to renew, upgrade, or do something else that will cause contract changes on your part to switch you to a limited data plan.
I am a power user. I have used upwards to 8gb in a month on 3G. Capping at a max of $10 for an ungodly amount per month is unacceptable. This would be too easy to break on 4G and I think that is their intention.
Sprint is pretty proud of their unlimited plans. If Verizon doesn't see the light before it comes time for me to renew again, I may forego my discount and move to Sprint if Sprint continues down the path of unlimited.

Nim dude this man be the first time ive ever seen that u were misled or misinformed about something. I too have a family plan set up (5 devices, 4 of which are smartphones) all unltd data and a 1400 min plan, and i have been told time and time again even after the recent purchase of my Inc 2 and my inlaws Charges' im continously told im fine, im grandfathered in.
I really havent seen any flux in my bill if anything i was actually quite surprised with my monthly after the dust settled.
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I should also mention that i have a corporate acct, not a regular user acct.
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SoCalSpecialist said:
Nim dude this man be the first time ive ever seen that u were misled or misinformed about something. I too have a family plan set up (5 devices, 4 of which are smartphones) all unltd data and a 1400 min plan, and i have been told time and time again even after the recent purchase of my Inc 2 and my inlaws Charges' im continously told im fine, im grandfathered in.
I really havent seen any flux in my bill if anything i was actually quite surprised with my monthly after the dust settled.
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I should also mention that i have a corporate acct, not a regular user acct.
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I'm not misinformed. If you upgrade using their upgrade option, you are also renewing your contract. Renewing your contract means new contract terms should your current contract no longer be available/valid. This means upgrading after the 7th would mean you lose unlimited data. This is why people are rushing to get their upgrades in, so they can be grandfathered in.

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I'm not misinformed. If you upgrade using their upgrade option, you are also renewing your contract. Renewing your contract means new contract terms should your current contract no longer be available/valid. This means upgrading after the 7th would mean you lose unlimited data. This is why people are rushing to get their upgrades in, so they can be grandfathered in.
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But everything I've read makes it sound like you are only in for the current contract...and that after its up they won't let you keep a month to month at your current rates. This sucks..
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But everything I've read makes it sound like you are only in for the current contract...and that after its up they won't let you keep a month to month at your current rates. This sucks..
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well the month to month is being abolished, that's a given. it was a marketing move to reel in more business. Once the contracts are established they were given quazy deals to move from month to month to contractual.

nimdae said:
I'm not misinformed. If you upgrade using their upgrade option, you are also renewing your contract. Renewing your contract means new contract terms should your current contract no longer be available/valid. This means upgrading after the 7th would mean you lose unlimited data. This is why people are rushing to get their upgrades in, so they can be grandfathered in.
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i just called into their corporate accounts customer service and asked all about the how to of upgrading my current min/data plan come the end of July.
the rep verbatim said "there is no change that would take affect to my account when upgrading either. She said if necessary they can actually help me by giving me some extra min's if infact i am running low on my current set to hold me over till my next billing cycle".
"but as far as upgrading there are no extra fee's nor changes in packages coming any time soon, that she is aware of".
"so when the time comes in July to simply call and make the upgrade and go ahead and do so".

I talked to some Verizon employees and they all told me that whenever I renew my contract/upgrade with Verizon, I'll still be grandfathered in with the unlimited data, I'll try asking a different store if people have heard different.

I just called last thursday, and I was asking about canceling. I was really thinking about going to another carrier, I was interested in getting a Nexus S. I wasn't eligible yet for an upgrade, but they gave me an early one which was great. But I was talking to the guy, and his argument to stay was unlimited data, I said that tiered data was going to happen for them as well. He said he nothing of this, hadn't heard anything at all.
So now this, but who knows maybe they leave their employess in the dark. And maybe they dont read up regularly on engadet and droid-life like I do.
But they really need to get the prices down a bit. Tmobile you can get 500mins, unlimited text and 5gb of data for 79.99, The same thing on verizon would now be like over $100 I could be a bit off, but this could hurt them in the future.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...data-only-new-customers-and-lines/#more-37519
This explains everything in a bit more detail for existing customers.

Its for new customers or if you add a line to your account the rest of us are grandfathered in
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dco717 said:
Its for new customers or if you add a line to your account the rest of us are grandfathered in
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EXACTLY!
and those of which are on the month to month.

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Its for new customers or if you add a line to your account the rest of us are grandfathered in
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So if I add a line to my account I'm screwed?
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I think yeah, unless you add it before July 7th.

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When does the 30$ 4g end. Ie when will I have to Pay more for 4gs
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Don't quote me on this but I think tiered data plans are coming soon, probably before the summer (iphone 5 release?).
From the past, $15 for 250 MB, $30 for 5GB (?) , and it gets up to $60+ for their "corporate" plans.
Now, that was for 3g so maybe they'll bump up the price a little for 4g. I wouldn't be surprised if they do that because VZW is a soulless, money leeching who*e. Hopefully we can keep riding on the "unlimited" data plan when Verizon changes their policy.
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Hopefully we can keep riding on the "unlimited" data plan when Verizon changes their policy.
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If they take us off of it, VZW terminates it's contract with us. You no longer have an ETA and are free to go.
I Don't think you've actually read the contract and what constitutes termination.
That being said, vzw has a good history of allowing grandfathered pricing.
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I Don't think you've actually read the contract and what constitutes termination.
That being said, vzw has a good history of allowing grandfathered pricing.
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I don't think you have.
Verizon Wireless said:
If you're a Postpay customer and a change to your Plan or this agreement has a material adverse effect on you, you can cancel the line of Service that has been affected within 60 days of receiving the notice with no early termination fee.
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https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...GREEMENT&jspName=footer/customerAgreement.jsp
I suppose "terminate" was the wrong term to use in regards to VZW, but they severely alter your contract, therefore they let you leave.
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I don't think you have.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...GREEMENT&jspName=footer/customerAgreement.jsp
I suppose "terminate" was the wrong term to use in regards to VZW, but they severely alter your contract, therefore they let you leave.
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haha got em
Oops, ya got me.
Still, we don't know anything yet so let's not be too hasty. Also: why is this in the accessory forum?
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Sorry, I clicked the wrong forum. But, thanks for the answers
One of these days I gotta read that contract. Maybe while drunk so that it can make more sense lol
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One of these days I gotta read that contract. Maybe while drunk so that it can make more sense lol
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I only use the contract as evidence. I don't really care either way... lol
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I don't think you have.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...GREEMENT&jspName=footer/customerAgreement.jsp
I suppose "terminate" was the wrong term to use in regards to VZW, but they severely alter your contract, therefore they let you leave.
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but if the change it to 5 gigs for $30 then there is no material(monetary) effect on you
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but if the change it to 5 gigs for $30 then there is no material(monetary) effect on you
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So if they change a (theoretical) voice plan of 1000 min for $10/month to 10 min for $10/month there is no material affect on you? You get charged for going over min. If you used all or most of 1000 min then you get bumped down to 100 but still use 1000 min you'll have to pay more. Would this not count towards you being able to drop out of your contract either?
If you got the $30/month unlimited plan because you're a heavy user and you use say, ~10GB a month and they change your plan to $30/month for 5GB plus $10/GB over (or whatever they decide the rate to be) you're going to be paying more for the same things you got on your own contract.
I think they would be breaking their end of the contract. Even if they could get away with it, it would mean a lot of bad press. Verizon doesn't want any more of that than they already have.
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So if they change a (theoretical) voice plan of 1000 min for $10/month to 10 min for $10/month there is no material affect on you? You get charged for going over min. If you used all or most of 1000 min then you get bumped down to 100 but still use 1000 min you'll have to pay more. Would this not count towards you being able to drop out of your contract either?
If you got the $30/month unlimited plan because you're a heavy user and you use say, ~10GB a month and they change your plan to $30/month for 5GB plus $10/GB over (or whatever they decide the rate to be) you're going to be paying more for the same things you got on your own contract.
I think they would be breaking their end of the contract. Even if they could get away with it, it would mean a lot of bad press. Verizon doesn't want any more of that than they already have.
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I used basically the same minute comparison when trying to get out of T-Mobile once they started throttling at 5 gigs. It was a no go for me. Needless to say I was pretty heated since I often used 6-7 gigs and when throttled would get 59kbps on their 3G. Hopefully it doesn't come to that again.
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I used basically the same minute comparison when trying to get out of T-Mobile once they started throttling at 5 gigs. It was a no go for me. Needless to say I was pretty heated since I often used 6-7 gigs and when throttled would get 59kbps on their 3G. Hopefully it doesn't come to that again.
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But isn't that in the contract somewhere for T-Mobile? I'm pretty sure somewhere it says they have a soft-cap of 5GBs. I think the scenarios are a little different in this case.
I think throttling is a different case then changing the amount
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If you have $30 unlimited 4G LTE data now, you will keep it forever. VZW will only force you to change your plan if you upgrade to a device that is incompatible with your current plan. For instance, VZW offered unlimited data on their 3G air cards. That plan has been discontinued but the customers who have it get to keep it on any 3G air card device they purchase. If they want to upgrade to 4G, however, they would have to give up that plan due to plan/device incompatibility. The system would not allow it.
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(Rumor)Verizon expected to eliminate "grandfathered" unlimited data plan

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...nlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers/
Just sharing w/ y'all.
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So everyone on unlimited...I'm gunna search for how to screw with my throttle and see if I can allow myself to pull the same speeds at all times...put my.phone on screen on and wake while charging...and download hundreds of gigs for weeks straight...anyone with me
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I seen this earlier over in the fascinate forums. I also so read in the evo 3D forums that us customs is delaying shipments of the one x and evo 4g lte cause of a possible infringement of a patient by apple.
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I seen this earlier over in the fascinate forums. I also so read in the evo 3D forums that us customs is delaying shipments of the one x and evo 4g lte cause of a possible infringement of a patient by apple.
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I can confirm from what I've seen from multiple outlets that both are true.
Reuters, HTC and various sources confirmed the One X and Evo LTE rumor and Verizon CFO has confirmed the other
Edit: Vzw link was to OP story. I sorry
TMOBILE Statement from Reuters News http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL4E8GG3ZV20120516?irpc=932
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So everyone on unlimited...I'm gunna search for how to screw with my throttle and see if I can allow myself to pull the same speeds at all times...put my.phone on screen on and wake while charging...and download hundreds of gigs for weeks straight...anyone with me
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There won't be anything you can do to your phone to keep them from throttling you.
The data will be passing through their network before it gets to your phone so they will just slow down the data passing through their network before you even see it.
No way around it unless you change carriers or use wifi.
D***...either way I'm having issues with their speed. I'm always pulling about 100kb/s as a down speed its unbelievable. I currently have 2 remedy tickets out because 3 outs of 4 techs can't do their freakn job right
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"Everyone will be on data share," Shammo said, according to Fierce Wireless. "When they migrate off 3G they will have to go to data share. That is beneficial to us."
Wow Verizon is sooooooo corrupt..
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Verizon is very corrupt. Remember back when they was trying charge ppl for paying ur bill a certain way
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Hey guys,
Glad this came up here. So I am grannyd in on my dinc2 (signed 2yr in July) along with a really good old verizon talk/text plan and with a business discount. So all in all things are peachy for me atm.
So here are the problems: the wife has long been up and needs to ditch her iphone from work. Wtf do I do?!
1. Do I wait this out to see what the family plans look like?
2. Or do I upgrade her now onto a 4g phone and get in before the family plans come out? Hell they might actually be ok if priced decently?!
3. Could I get a used 4g phone add that to my unlimited plan?!
4. Should I add her a data line and get her an off contact phone so we aren't locked in for 2yrs?! Is that possible?!
Jezus this is f'd up. These greedy mofos will go down at some point. And here is praying that Google does it from right under their own feet (their own network)
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There's a petition over on change.org. to try to get Verizon to change their minds
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I seen this earlier over in the fascinate forums. I also so read in the evo 3D forums that us customs is delaying shipments of the one x and evo 4g lte cause of a possible infringement of a patient by apple.
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It's true about the new Evo. I'm so sad. I would have had my phone today and activated it on a new line of service. I think that since the patent in question is not being infringed upon it won't take long to clear, but it still really sucks. It's been sucky having only Wi-Fi for my phone, and I was really excited to come home today and activate it. I really hope it doesn't take very long to go through.
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There's a petition over on change.org. to try to get Verizon to change their minds
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Internet petition wouldn't do anything honestly. Technically with that site, 1 guy can sign it 50 times. It's just gonna raise the awareness to Verizon "hopefully", but I doubt that's gonna do anything.
Unless like couple hundred of thousands people discontinue their contracts complaining about this issue, they won't do ****.
They never care and never will.
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Internet petition wouldn't do anything honestly. Technically with that site, 1 guy can sign it 50 times. It's just gonna raise the awareness to Verizon "hopefully", but I doubt that's gonna do anything.
Unless like couple hundred of thousands people discontinue their contracts complaining about this issue, they won't do ****.
They never care and never will.
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i think we need to see an official statement about it from verizon before the real outrage from more users is present...besides those of us who read every internet post out there, 99.9% of verizon users probably arent aware of their intentions
but if there is enough of an outcry, who knows?
verizon has canned stuff before (sadly not the $30 upgrade fee) but the supposed charge for paying your bill online was shelved when people flipped out
but my interpretation of what the cfo said is this (obviously its my opinion)
your next upgrade post family data plans will force you off unlimited (or whatever tiered plan you are on if on a family plan) and into either tiered (for single line accounts) or family data plan (for those with multiple joined lines)
if you upgrade between now and when the plans start, you should be ok for the next 2 years....
however there is speculation if on a family plan (shared minutes currently, individual lines on the same account shouldnt be affected) if *anyone* on the family plan upgrades, everyone gets kicked onto a shared plan automatically (we ll see)
i *think* after family data starts, if you buy devices off contract (though if you buy directly from verizon at full price they may try to screw you) you should be able to keep unlimited data.....
but when you are off contract, verizon can (with prior notification) change the terms of your month by month status at anytime and since you are off contract and they dont have to forgive your etf (cuz there is none) its take it or leave it
id like to blame the iphone 5....funny timing that this happens when a lte iphone is looming and vzw is surely worried about the data usage that could bring
anyway, just how i see it
I'm just wondering how this is gonna affect me. I have a family plan with 700 shared minutes but on my line I have 5000 texts and unlimited data.
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There's a petition over on change.org. to try to get Verizon to change their minds
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Not going to happen, sorry.
Every carrier is moving to this model and Sprint wont be too far behind. This will impact 1% of Verizon customers the other 99% wont even notice the change. Why? Because right now they don't even know they have unlimited data or know how much the unlimited data is for. IF they were to call and complain it would take two seconds for a Verizon rep to point out they don't even reach 1Gb of data.
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npompei said:
Hey guys,
Glad this came up here. So I am grannyd in on my dinc2 (signed 2yr in July) along with a really good old verizon talk/text plan and with a business discount. So all in all things are peachy for me atm.
So here are the problems: the wife has long been up and needs to ditch her iphone from work. Wtf do I do?!
1. Do I wait this out to see what the family plans look like?
2. Or do I upgrade her now onto a 4g phone and get in before the family plans come out? Hell they might actually be ok if priced decently?!
3. Could I get a used 4g phone add that to my unlimited plan?!
4. Should I add her a data line and get her an off contact phone so we aren't locked in for 2yrs?! Is that possible?!
Jezus this is f'd up. These greedy mofos will go down at some point. And here is praying that Google does it from right under their own feet (their own network)
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1. Are you on a family plan? If not then there is no reason to wait.
2. If you move to a 4G phone now you will be on unlimited data until you upgrade your next phone
3. No. Any phone change will trigger the data change
4. You can add a line with any Verizon approved phone. You don't HAVE to buy one on contract when adding a line.
Right now I'm paying $60/month for two phones with unlimited data. If the family tier offers 3-5GB month at $50-$60 I wont sweat it. Since we both started working from home our data use has dropped dramatically. Even when we both commuted we both barely got over 3GB combined. With individual plans being 2/30 and 50/5 I can only hope the family one comes in somewhere in line.
What do the data plans start at now anyways? 4gb?
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What do the data plans start at now anyways? 4gb?
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tiered atm? (we have no clue about coming family plans at all)
2gb - $30
5gb - $50
10gb - $80
w/ $10 per gb over
randomly certain phones will have "double your data" deals to get 4gb for $30 w/ 2 year deal
Bummer. 2gigs would definitely nix any use of Pandora or Play music
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Bummer. 2gigs would definitely nix any use of Pandora or Play music
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If you adjust quality settings you can make it stick. I was using Spotify an hour a day with high quality streaming and was just going over 2GB.
As for current plans, if you're unlimited you have a 5GB cap.
Oh I agree. It's just the idea of watching every friggen byte coming through. They already have me for 130/month for Fios 80/wireless. Here a-holes take my whole paycheck and fight it out with my ex.

Unlimited Plan

Is there any way I would be able to keep my unlimited plan and get the Inc 4G?
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Buy it outright...
If you are willing to pay the full price of the phone and not resign a contract.. it pretty much is less money than having the 2-4 gig plan. As long as you are ok spending the 650 all at once.
Unlimited data is unlimited data, whether it be 3 or 4g. As long as you dont change your plan, you will always have unlimited data even if 5g ever comes out.
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Unlimited data is unlimited data, whether it be 3 or 4g. As long as you dont change your plan, you will always have unlimited data even if 5g ever comes out.
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That was the case but it will be most likely changing when shared data starts.
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That was the case but it will be most likely changing when shared data starts.
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What is shared data? As in shared between 2 phones?
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What is shared data? As in shared between 2 phones?
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Two or more devices (phones, tablets, etc) actually. Cmlusco, Verizon announced Family Share Data plans that will go into effect on June 28th. If you (or anyone you know, SPREAD THE WORD) want to maintain your unlimited data plan you must upgrade by then OR pay full retail on future phones to keep your plan unchanged. The plan breakdown is ridiculous. Give me a bit and I can post a link detailing the new changes.
Edit: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/12/the-basics-verizons-new-share-everything-plans/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/12/verizon-announces-shared-everything-plans-starting-at-50-for-1gb-of-data-and-unlimited-talktext/
I did some math and anyone switching from a unlimited plan will have the bill increase $30-$60 over before. $720-$1440 over 24 months still feel like a subsidized phone is a good deal?
I would say the best thing about the "shared" data plan is Unlimited talk.
Honestly
shared data should look more like this
unlimited talk+text 1 gig allocation per line with the same 40$ per smartphone line starting at 15 so the share plan starts at $55 and 2 phones would be $95 and the pool would be 2 gig in size. And it scales well.
I fail to see the point of such low caps with tethering and 4g we use it faster and on more devices.
Because of this whole ordeal I am seriously thinking about buying a nexus from google and going to T-Mobile. I can get unlimited there without feeling like i'm taking it up the tailpipe :/
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Buy it outright...
If you are willing to pay the full price of the phone and not resign a contract.. it pretty much is less money than having the 2-4 gig plan. As long as you are ok spending the 650 all at once.
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I'll just go back to buying used phones. Will be doing that shortly here; friend is upgrading from his Rezound to a GS3, and he's willing to sell me his Rezound. Will be a nice upgrade from the Inc.

Leaked info Tmo POST PAID not PREPAID no contract no cap anyday

We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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Seems like they are starting to implement "merge changes" from their deal with metro.
this...is my BOOM stick!
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Seems like they are starting to implement "merge changes" from their deal with metro.
this...is my BOOM stick!
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This doesn't have anything to do with metro, this has more to do with them trying to pioneer something new. More of a European business model, for people that see the value of it it will be a great thing. Some people still think that getting a phone cheap with a contract is better no matter what though. They rather pay out the ass then save money by buying a phone full price. I for one hope it's insanely successful because if it is not only is it good for tmobile but we might see manufacturers finally compete to have lower cost devices rather than, all these carriers charging an arm and a leg just so they don't lose profit subsidizing handset. The reason I said this doesn't have to do with the metro thing is because tmobile is keeping prepaid around and credit will still be required for you to be trusted with a phone payment plan on postpaid. Tmobile is trying something new and if it catches on then we should see nice growth for tmobile and carriers having to change up there prices and stuff to compete.
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Its kind of like the value plan they have now. That is what I have for over 3 years now. I pay cheap on monthly plan and unlimited everything '5gb' and when ever I update phones I pay a down of like $200 and then $20 per month for the phone till is paid off with no interest rate
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I'm already on post paid unlimited plan with no data cap. The only thing I'm missing from my previous "unlimited" 5 gig plan is data tethering (hotspot feature) but they dont even offer it as an add on for note2
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I'll stick with my current prepaid plan, it's still cheaper and has better coverage. When Tmobile gets better coverage I'll consider it. In my area they are way too spotty. I do believe it's a step in the right direction.
Can you imagine how fast IPhone sales would drop if all the carriers stop subsidizing the phone purchase. I'm sure super Android phones would suffer too.
All prepaid as of 2 months ago is truly unlimited NO CAP after 5gigs , if anyone hasnt noticed this just tether all your devices, run up a gig a day after 5 gigs you'll see that your still pulling 10-16mg downloads depending on coverage.
The post paid will be just like prepaid but they will offer insurance on existing and new handsets same unlimited data NO CAPS even after 5gigs.
And you will be prioritized in the network coverage when the coverage becomes congested, this isn't the same for prepaid customers.
All in all unlimited hspa I call it not really 4g lte speeds but good enough, option to add something like 120 $ down extra to finance a phone into monthly payments and all this with NO Contract
March 28th they say Or so a tmobile corporate rep told me the day I went to reinstate my contract and he said why bother stay on prepaid for a few more weeks and reap the benefits of contract features without a contract!
This is about the best thing tmobile has implemented in some time now.
It's essentially same as if Verizon was to all sudden flick a switch and give everyone back there unlimited data .It's a great move by tmobile, giving back something they once took away.
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To reiterate, I was trying to say this new revision on tmobile data ,is in part like Metro pcs , in which up until recently Metro was the only carrier that gave u true 4g lte for" one set price a month" that's the key one set price..... For new customers, no contract which used to be 10gigs max on contract
Now tmobile has this since they did away with the 5g caps on the prepaid .They also did away with a data cap on contract plans , , essentially they are giving back truly unlimited this would make tmobile and Metro the only two carriers doing so for new customers , unless you are "Grandfathered in " with att or vzw on there UL data.
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I can comfirm this on the $30 plan. After 5gb still no cap. I love this. Truely unlimted 4g for $30.
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We will all be seeing a very nice thing march 28th from tmobile... soon thanks to a big mouth rep .
Postpaid 4g no caps on data no "contract" Truly unlimited.
This is like a contract without the contract.
Get a device with out contract just as u would with one .
Pay it off on monthly payments, this is like metro pcs no Data caps, but faster data and pay minimal down toward a new device NO CONTRACT.
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I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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I can comfirm this on the $30 plan. After 5gb still no cap. I love this. Truely unlimted 4g for $30.
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is this a contract plan or prepaid?
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is this a contract plan or prepaid?
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Prepaid!
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XCrazedxPyroX said:
I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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My wife and I are on the 1000 minute family plan. Switching to this new plan would be a price jump for us. we both have 2 GB data plans. I guessing the soft cap on those won't go anywhere unless we change plans right? Also, if I want to get a unlimited data plan but keep my current plan will I need to make that move now? would I be forced to switch plans to get it after the 24th?
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My wife and I are on the 1000 minute family plan. Switching to this new plan would be a price jump for us. we both have 2 GB data plans. I guessing the soft cap on those won't go anywhere unless we change plans right? Also, if I want to get a unlimited data plan but keep my current plan will I need to make that move now? would I be forced to switch plans to get it after the 24th?
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You aren't forced to make ANY switches. You can keep your plan. But it's considered grandfathered as of the 24th. It should be cheaper. The plans aren't solid, but they're making them the cheapest they've ever been ever. Things are still up in the air and not definite.
If you decide to upgrade to unlimited data, you shouldn't have to change plans just to change your data package.
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XCrazedxPyroX said:
I'll go ahead and confirm this as well. I work for the company. There's going to be a HUGE switch on March 24th to be exact. Trade in programs. No contract plans. Unlimited everything. $50 starts you with unlimited talk and text with 500mb throttled data included already. $20 extra for just truly unlimited. Or $10 for every 2GB, pay per use. You do what you want. If you leave while paying off the device, you just get billed for the device. Family plans are the same way except it's 40 instead of 50 starting out. Add a line is simply $10 then $10 for data.
Huge question everyone is asking is can I move to this plan right away? Yes. You'll still finish your contract though. They won't just let everyone cut their contract. This only applies if you're already on the value plan (monthly installments). If you're a classic/legacy plan, they will charge a migration fee. But I'm pretty sure that'll negate your contract.
This is all leaked info already on the Web, so I'm not really doing anything bad here by disclosing this. Just making it easier for people to understand, I'm super excited about what these plans have to offer and you all should too. With them doubling their coverage this year and rolling out LTE with no contract, it's a great time to be a customer or an employee. If you have questions, ask!
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Employee here! I second this! Truuue!
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so whats the best bet for me?
i pay $124 a month for
unlimited text/mms and 1000 shared minutes between 2 phones.
i'd like to cut my contracts and separate the phones. but my contract isn't up for two years.
what's my best plan of action.
also note - that i only get $124 because of my 15% educator discount or else i'd be paying somewhere
along the $180 mark for the above plan.
Amen for the Lte can anyone confirm that with the lte rollout we will see better coverage in dead zones , lte on new towers? I only ask cause it is spotty in many areas .Hoping the lte band will give better reception.
Any word on lte speed comparisons to the other two carriers ?
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You'll essentially be paying 70 per line for truly unlimited data txt calla so 140 $ .I'd say for the extra 16 $ its worth it .No hassle no contract still get insured on phones a lot of upside to the move .
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Amen for the Lte can anyone confirm that with the lte rollout we will see better coverage in dead zones , lte on new towers? I only ask cause it is spotty in many areas .Hoping the lte band will give better reception.
Any word on lte speed comparisons to the other two carriers ?
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Well, right now in areas where they are preping LTE (like mine in OKC) HSPA+ has gotten a lot slower. If I have the 1900 Mhz refarm, it is fine, but otherwise it is down to 3-5 mb/s. I know that T-Mobile has AWS 1700/2100 in two groups in OKC. A 2x10 and a 2x5. My guess is that they moved the HSPA+ from 2x10 to 2x5 so the LTE can be on the 2x10. So right now they would be in testing on it and gradually hitting the 1900 refarm. Eventually, I think the goal is for most HSPA+ to be on 1900 with LTE on the AWS 1700/2100.
Getting back to your question and my point, I think LTE will improve existing coverage slightly as I think it does offer a little better transmission over HSPA+ at the same frequency. However, unless they roll it out in more towers/areas, it won't have a drastic improvement. The other possibilities is that pepping for it might be hurting your speeds as they have to free up space on the AWS 1700/2100 for the LTE. So that might be part of the problem for you.

2.5gb of Hotspot for free

I called tmobile about a issue with my Phone.. and the lady offered me 4gb of Hotspot a month for 10 dollars.. I declined it, and then she said for being a "loyal customer" she can give me 2.5gb of Hotspot for the same price that I pay now with unlimited data.. so instead of me getting the half a gig of Hotspot data every month, I now get 2.5gigs.. and my bill stay the same..
I'm not sure if anyone else knew this or not.. so if not.. yall should call and see if you can get it also..
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Unlimited data includes 2.5Gbps normally now, nothing special. It is part of the plan.
Lol I bet they put you on the plan where you'll get that, but get throttled after your data hits a certain point, still unlimited, but slow.
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Aww.. She made me seem like I was getting something special... lol
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bigdreco said:
Aww.. She made me seem like I was getting something special... lol
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Of course she did. Always a good idea to do a little research before calling them. All that info its on their rate page.
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Aww.. She made me seem like I was getting something special... lol
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Well you still have something that you did not had before so its all good I guess
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Lmfao dude she's probably laughing and discussing about you while drinking some expensive wine with some sophisticated friends. Yes, I can imagine it all now. Cheers mate
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Have you migrated yet? If not I have a feeling you just got locked into 2 more years on your contract.
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Lmfao dude she's probably laughing and discussing about you while drinking some expensive wine with some sophisticated friends. Yes, I can imagine it all now. Cheers mate
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If that's the kind of job t-mobile phone reps have then sign me up!!!
Jk I can't stay sitting on a phone for 8-10 hrs a day dealing with people. Did collections for 2 years and that was torture.
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I got the unlimited without throttling and also have the 2.5GB hotspot which was only 500MB before. I think they changed all plans now to have the 2.5GB hotspot.
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I got the unlimited without throttling and also have the 2.5GB hotspot which was only 500MB before. I think they changed all plans now to have the 2.5GB hotspot.
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They don't automatically do it but if you change your phone or plan, it changes to this.
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Which again leads me to the question of whether he has migrated already or not? I believe thats the only way he's getting the free hotspot and if he didnt pay a fee they got him on another 2 year contract.
Hopefully thats not the case cause id like to get free hotspot as well until I get force migrated eventually. Unfortunately, im almost sure that's the case.
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Which again leads me to the question of whether he has migrated already or not? I believe thats the only way he's getting the free hotspot and if he didnt pay a fee they got him on another 2 year contract.
Hopefully thats not the case cause id like to get free hotspot as well until I get force migrated eventually. Unfortunately, im almost sure that's the case.
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There is no contract with T-Mobile. The only time you're under "contract" is until your phone is paid off. If you already paid your phone off or brought it to them there's no "contract". It is their new plan and you have to sign up for it if you were an existing customer.
AdmiralCF420 said:
There is no contract with T-Mobile. The only time you're under "contract" is until your phone is paid off. If you already paid your phone off or brought it to them there's no "contract". It is their new plan and you have to sign up for it if you were an existing customer.
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Not true. They offered me to switch to another classic plan. The ones with the 2.5gb, 4.5gb, 6.5g etc plans. No migration fee, came with hotspot, AND another 2 year commitment.
So YES, people can still sign contracts, I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.
They wanted to do the same thing to me when I got my Note 3, but I'm on the actually unlimited data plan and didn't want to give that up. I don't usually use too much data but when I need it I need it.
DWebber18 said:
They wanted to do the same thing to me when I got my Note 3, but I'm on the actually unlimited data plan and didn't want to give that up. I don't usually use too much data but when I need it I need it.
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T-Mobile still has fully unlimited plans. They are actually cheaper now, and come with 2.5GB of hotspot usage. If anyone here wants to know anything about the plans and what changes and what doesn't let me know. I work in a corporate retail location, so if anyone has any questions I would be more than happy to answer or find the answer.
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tony yayo said:
Not true. They offered me to switch to another classic plan. The ones with the 2.5gb, 4.5gb, 6.5g etc plans. No migration fee, came with hotspot, AND another 2 year commitment.
So YES, people can still sign contracts, I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.
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Not true, the only way you can still get a T-Mobile contract is if you opt into it as a small business customer, or if you go through an authorized dealer like Walmart, which I don't even think Walmart does. If you are in a contract when you upgrade, you are only required to finish out your existing contract. If you are paying your phone off with an EIP (Equipment Installment Plan) you are only required to pay off the existing balance of the phone (if applicable) if you decide to leave.
In store we use the 2.5gb of free hotspot as a selling point, you get it regardless provided you move to the Simple Choice (Post-Paid) plans from any of the older plans, and have either 2.5gb or fully UNL plan.
ihidbehindmusic said:
T-Mobile still has fully unlimited plans. They are actually cheaper now, and come with 2.5GB of hotspot usage. If anyone here wants to know anything about the plans and what changes and what doesn't let me know. I work in a corporate retail location, so if anyone has any questions I would be more than happy to answer or find the answer.
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Not true, the only way you can still get a T-Mobile contract is if you opt into it as a small business customer, or if you go through an authorized dealer like Walmart, which I don't even think Walmart does. If you are in a contract when you upgrade, you are only required to finish out your existing contract. If you are paying your phone off with an EIP (Equipment Installment Plan) you are only required to pay off the existing balance of the phone (if applicable) if you decide to leave.
In store we use the 2.5gb of free hotspot as a selling point, you get it regardless provided you move to the Simple Choice (Post-Paid) plans from any of the older plans, and have either 2.5gb or fully UNL plan.
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Wrong. You can still extend with a classic plan. No migration fee but another 2 year commitment.
When I was in the store getting my Note they checked my plan and the sales associate did mention that my current plan was still cheaper than what they were offering. I don't use that many minutes so I don't need the extra minutes. I was on the 2.5gb plan that throttles speeds after that and when my wife joined my plan we switched to the Unlimited high speed plan with 1000 shared minutes almost 2 years ago. So a similar current plan is $120 before taxes and fees for my wife and myself. Not bad in comparison to other providers but still not as good and the only benefit is extra minutes we won't use and 2.5gb of tether which I rarely use as it is. We pay right under $100 a month right now
Nope, Uh Uh, Nada
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Wrong. You can still extend with a classic plan. No migration fee but another 2 year commitment.
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Show me something that says you're on a contract! You can't because there are no contracts!
So she wanted to you to pay an extra $10 for something everyone was getting free? LMAO!
ihidbehindmusic said:
T-Mobile still has fully unlimited plans. They are actually cheaper now, and come with 2.5GB of hotspot usage. If anyone here wants to know anything about the plans and what changes and what doesn't let me know. I work in a corporate retail location, so if anyone has any questions I would be more than happy to answer or find the answer.
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Not true, the only way you can still get a T-Mobile contract is if you opt into it as a small business customer, or if you go through an authorized dealer like Walmart, which I don't even think Walmart does. If you are in a contract when you upgrade, you are only required to finish out your existing contract. If you are paying your phone off with an EIP (Equipment Installment Plan) you are only required to pay off the existing balance of the phone (if applicable) if you decide to leave.
In store we use the 2.5gb of free hotspot as a selling point, you get it regardless provided you move to the Simple Choice (Post-Paid) plans from any of the older plans, and have either 2.5gb or fully UNL plan.
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zRalphz said:
Show me something that says you're on a contract! You can't because there are no contracts!
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Chiming in with the 3rd not true. You can get individual classic contract plans at Costco. No need for small business/corporate accounts.

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