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When does the 30$ 4g end. Ie when will I have to Pay more for 4gs
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Don't quote me on this but I think tiered data plans are coming soon, probably before the summer (iphone 5 release?).
From the past, $15 for 250 MB, $30 for 5GB (?) , and it gets up to $60+ for their "corporate" plans.
Now, that was for 3g so maybe they'll bump up the price a little for 4g. I wouldn't be surprised if they do that because VZW is a soulless, money leeching who*e. Hopefully we can keep riding on the "unlimited" data plan when Verizon changes their policy.

cuguy said:
Hopefully we can keep riding on the "unlimited" data plan when Verizon changes their policy.
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If they take us off of it, VZW terminates it's contract with us. You no longer have an ETA and are free to go.

I Don't think you've actually read the contract and what constitutes termination.
That being said, vzw has a good history of allowing grandfathered pricing.
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mcmillanje said:
I Don't think you've actually read the contract and what constitutes termination.
That being said, vzw has a good history of allowing grandfathered pricing.
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I don't think you have.
Verizon Wireless said:
If you're a Postpay customer and a change to your Plan or this agreement has a material adverse effect on you, you can cancel the line of Service that has been affected within 60 days of receiving the notice with no early termination fee.
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https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...GREEMENT&jspName=footer/customerAgreement.jsp
I suppose "terminate" was the wrong term to use in regards to VZW, but they severely alter your contract, therefore they let you leave.

IISiDeK1CKII said:
I don't think you have.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...GREEMENT&jspName=footer/customerAgreement.jsp
I suppose "terminate" was the wrong term to use in regards to VZW, but they severely alter your contract, therefore they let you leave.
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haha got em

Oops, ya got me.
Still, we don't know anything yet so let's not be too hasty. Also: why is this in the accessory forum?
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Sorry, I clicked the wrong forum. But, thanks for the answers

One of these days I gotta read that contract. Maybe while drunk so that it can make more sense lol
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cuguy said:
One of these days I gotta read that contract. Maybe while drunk so that it can make more sense lol
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I only use the contract as evidence. I don't really care either way... lol

IISiDeK1CKII said:
I don't think you have.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...GREEMENT&jspName=footer/customerAgreement.jsp
I suppose "terminate" was the wrong term to use in regards to VZW, but they severely alter your contract, therefore they let you leave.
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but if the change it to 5 gigs for $30 then there is no material(monetary) effect on you

Bigandrewgold said:
but if the change it to 5 gigs for $30 then there is no material(monetary) effect on you
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So if they change a (theoretical) voice plan of 1000 min for $10/month to 10 min for $10/month there is no material affect on you? You get charged for going over min. If you used all or most of 1000 min then you get bumped down to 100 but still use 1000 min you'll have to pay more. Would this not count towards you being able to drop out of your contract either?
If you got the $30/month unlimited plan because you're a heavy user and you use say, ~10GB a month and they change your plan to $30/month for 5GB plus $10/GB over (or whatever they decide the rate to be) you're going to be paying more for the same things you got on your own contract.
I think they would be breaking their end of the contract. Even if they could get away with it, it would mean a lot of bad press. Verizon doesn't want any more of that than they already have.

ERIFNOMI said:
So if they change a (theoretical) voice plan of 1000 min for $10/month to 10 min for $10/month there is no material affect on you? You get charged for going over min. If you used all or most of 1000 min then you get bumped down to 100 but still use 1000 min you'll have to pay more. Would this not count towards you being able to drop out of your contract either?
If you got the $30/month unlimited plan because you're a heavy user and you use say, ~10GB a month and they change your plan to $30/month for 5GB plus $10/GB over (or whatever they decide the rate to be) you're going to be paying more for the same things you got on your own contract.
I think they would be breaking their end of the contract. Even if they could get away with it, it would mean a lot of bad press. Verizon doesn't want any more of that than they already have.
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I used basically the same minute comparison when trying to get out of T-Mobile once they started throttling at 5 gigs. It was a no go for me. Needless to say I was pretty heated since I often used 6-7 gigs and when throttled would get 59kbps on their 3G. Hopefully it doesn't come to that again.
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brandnewsimmy said:
I used basically the same minute comparison when trying to get out of T-Mobile once they started throttling at 5 gigs. It was a no go for me. Needless to say I was pretty heated since I often used 6-7 gigs and when throttled would get 59kbps on their 3G. Hopefully it doesn't come to that again.
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But isn't that in the contract somewhere for T-Mobile? I'm pretty sure somewhere it says they have a soft-cap of 5GBs. I think the scenarios are a little different in this case.

I think throttling is a different case then changing the amount
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If you have $30 unlimited 4G LTE data now, you will keep it forever. VZW will only force you to change your plan if you upgrade to a device that is incompatible with your current plan. For instance, VZW offered unlimited data on their 3G air cards. That plan has been discontinued but the customers who have it get to keep it on any 3G air card device they purchase. If they want to upgrade to 4G, however, they would have to give up that plan due to plan/device incompatibility. The system would not allow it.
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Tierd data

Is that just for one line or if ypu have a family plan and get the 5g will it go for both lines
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well seeing as how there is currently no shared data plan for family plans atm, it will probably be per line, not per family account.

The majority of people use 2gb of data so that's $30. Right now data cost 30$ so this won't affect the majority. Power users use more than 2 using anywhere from 5-10gb so these power users have to pay extra because Verizon loves money. I use 6gb and sometimes 8gb so ill worry about this when I grab my Droid Incredible 3
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gdi2290 said:
The majority of people use 2gb of data so that's $30. Right now data cost 30$ so this won't affect the majority. Power users use more than 2 using anywhere from 5-10gb so these power users have to pay extra because Verizon loves money. I use 6gb and sometimes 8gb so ill worry about this when I grab my Droid Incredible 3
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Yea these plans are outrageous...I'm never upgrading...ill switch to Sprint or t mobile...or ill buy off contract..
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Thats dumb im already paying 186 for two phones
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This tired plan really should be renamed to "lower caps and more money plans"..... I'm not entirely sure how on earth anyone could think this is good for the end users.

Wait ... can someone please tell me if I'm on a family plan with 3 Smart phones (my Inc2, and 2 Droid Charges) with the unlimited data, when we upgrade or renew our contract, do we get to keep our unlimited data? Or is it unclear to everyone at this moment?

If you renew your contract, you are no longer grandfathered as you are agreeing to new terms. If you have current data plans with no intention to change/renew in the near future, you are covered with unlimited data. If you buy your device at retail without renewing your contract, your contract should remain the same.
More than likely if you have an unlimited plan, you will eventually start being harassed by Verizon to renew, upgrade, or do something else that will cause contract changes on your part to switch you to a limited data plan.
I am a power user. I have used upwards to 8gb in a month on 3G. Capping at a max of $10 for an ungodly amount per month is unacceptable. This would be too easy to break on 4G and I think that is their intention.
Sprint is pretty proud of their unlimited plans. If Verizon doesn't see the light before it comes time for me to renew again, I may forego my discount and move to Sprint if Sprint continues down the path of unlimited.

Nim dude this man be the first time ive ever seen that u were misled or misinformed about something. I too have a family plan set up (5 devices, 4 of which are smartphones) all unltd data and a 1400 min plan, and i have been told time and time again even after the recent purchase of my Inc 2 and my inlaws Charges' im continously told im fine, im grandfathered in.
I really havent seen any flux in my bill if anything i was actually quite surprised with my monthly after the dust settled.
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I should also mention that i have a corporate acct, not a regular user acct.
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SoCalSpecialist said:
Nim dude this man be the first time ive ever seen that u were misled or misinformed about something. I too have a family plan set up (5 devices, 4 of which are smartphones) all unltd data and a 1400 min plan, and i have been told time and time again even after the recent purchase of my Inc 2 and my inlaws Charges' im continously told im fine, im grandfathered in.
I really havent seen any flux in my bill if anything i was actually quite surprised with my monthly after the dust settled.
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I should also mention that i have a corporate acct, not a regular user acct.
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I'm not misinformed. If you upgrade using their upgrade option, you are also renewing your contract. Renewing your contract means new contract terms should your current contract no longer be available/valid. This means upgrading after the 7th would mean you lose unlimited data. This is why people are rushing to get their upgrades in, so they can be grandfathered in.

nimdae said:
I'm not misinformed. If you upgrade using their upgrade option, you are also renewing your contract. Renewing your contract means new contract terms should your current contract no longer be available/valid. This means upgrading after the 7th would mean you lose unlimited data. This is why people are rushing to get their upgrades in, so they can be grandfathered in.
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But everything I've read makes it sound like you are only in for the current contract...and that after its up they won't let you keep a month to month at your current rates. This sucks..
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knipp21 said:
But everything I've read makes it sound like you are only in for the current contract...and that after its up they won't let you keep a month to month at your current rates. This sucks..
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well the month to month is being abolished, that's a given. it was a marketing move to reel in more business. Once the contracts are established they were given quazy deals to move from month to month to contractual.

nimdae said:
I'm not misinformed. If you upgrade using their upgrade option, you are also renewing your contract. Renewing your contract means new contract terms should your current contract no longer be available/valid. This means upgrading after the 7th would mean you lose unlimited data. This is why people are rushing to get their upgrades in, so they can be grandfathered in.
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i just called into their corporate accounts customer service and asked all about the how to of upgrading my current min/data plan come the end of July.
the rep verbatim said "there is no change that would take affect to my account when upgrading either. She said if necessary they can actually help me by giving me some extra min's if infact i am running low on my current set to hold me over till my next billing cycle".
"but as far as upgrading there are no extra fee's nor changes in packages coming any time soon, that she is aware of".
"so when the time comes in July to simply call and make the upgrade and go ahead and do so".

I talked to some Verizon employees and they all told me that whenever I renew my contract/upgrade with Verizon, I'll still be grandfathered in with the unlimited data, I'll try asking a different store if people have heard different.

I just called last thursday, and I was asking about canceling. I was really thinking about going to another carrier, I was interested in getting a Nexus S. I wasn't eligible yet for an upgrade, but they gave me an early one which was great. But I was talking to the guy, and his argument to stay was unlimited data, I said that tiered data was going to happen for them as well. He said he nothing of this, hadn't heard anything at all.
So now this, but who knows maybe they leave their employess in the dark. And maybe they dont read up regularly on engadet and droid-life like I do.
But they really need to get the prices down a bit. Tmobile you can get 500mins, unlimited text and 5gb of data for 79.99, The same thing on verizon would now be like over $100 I could be a bit off, but this could hurt them in the future.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...data-only-new-customers-and-lines/#more-37519
This explains everything in a bit more detail for existing customers.

Its for new customers or if you add a line to your account the rest of us are grandfathered in
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dco717 said:
Its for new customers or if you add a line to your account the rest of us are grandfathered in
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EXACTLY!
and those of which are on the month to month.

dco717 said:
Its for new customers or if you add a line to your account the rest of us are grandfathered in
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So if I add a line to my account I'm screwed?
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I think yeah, unless you add it before July 7th.

[Q] GS3 with T-Mobile Advantage?

I am planning on switching to T-Mobile and I did some research to try and find the best deal possible since I am going to get into a new 2 year contract. I am a college student attending the University of Ohio and my university doesn't have a direct relationship with the school. I found a discount via the T-Mobile Advantage program and I attached the flyer here.
You get
A $50 account credit with a new activation (expires on 12/31)
Waived activation fees
10% discount
You have to call CS to activate I am not sure whether you can do it online. There is a promo code in the flyer which you have to mention. That discount is also affiliated with the student discount website Student rate. I am not sure whether you actually have to be a student or not.
Has anyone used this discount before??

Well with everything make sure you read the fine print, always little things to reduced the discounts you're getting. You sure you want tmobile they are not definitely not the best company in terms of customer service and business model. Anywho you should definitely check out best buy, they usually have really good deals on phone.
Right now they have the s3 for 179.99 way cheaper than what you would get it at tmobile around 300 or so. Make sure you call them because for some reason tmobile doesn't allow in store pickup(****ty business model). Also I don't know how all that works when you starting off, I was just upgrading good luck.
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Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.

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Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.
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It really is for most cases. Just some people like to aim high and go for an s3 and not everyone has 700 upfront to pay a company. While you end up paying more in a contract most people get paid every 2 to 4 weeks and are satisfied paying a fee monthly and two years is not very long. After the two years you can always take that phone you bought and get into those no contact based companies like metro etc.
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Is this whole offer expired? Or just the $50 credit offer?

Pennycake said:
Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.
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How exactly do you get on the $30 unlimited plan with 100 talk minutes if you are already on T-Mobile prepaid.. I checked in the area on my T-Mobile to change the plan and it doesn't show up in there?
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It looks like the $50 has expired but discount is still valid

Actually, this offer seems to be back on back on until 02/28 - $50 credit + 10% discount + waived activation fees. They also have some pretty good sales on handsets

Samsung Galaxy SIII is free right now until the 18th of feb, i think actually almost all tmo devices are free

MntClmr said:
Samsung Galaxy SIII is free right now until the 18th of feb, i think actually almost all tmo devices are free
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Is this just new accounts and contracts through calling customer service? I got the s3 for free after tons of issues with my amaze, and now my wife is super jealous and wants one, haha.
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eliasadrian said:
Is this just new accounts and contracts through calling customer service? I got the s3 for free after tons of issues with my amaze, and now my wife is super jealous and wants one, haha.
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If you call and upgrade using the promo code I think you can still get the discount and a discounted device. It mayb depend whether your account is eligible for an upgrade or not. You should definitely give it a shot they're usually very helpful on the phone!

MntClmr said:
If you call and upgrade using the promo code I think you can still get the discount and a discounted device. It mayb depend whether your account is eligible for an upgrade or not. You should definitely give it a shot they're usually very helpful on the phone!
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When is T-Mobile expected to get the iPhone?

LFrank342 said:
When is T-Mobile expected to get the iPhone?
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For all we know, theyll be getting the iphone 6 when their lte network will be out for a few months.
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actually i think they're supposed to announce the GS4 pretty soon... so i probably won't even wait for the iPhone to come out

that 50 bucks for activation is gone... bummer. do you know if i still get the discount and my activation fees waived with the promo code ?

By a t mobile s3 no contract or steal one lol, just get one. Then go to si. Please mobile and get the rg plan 53 dollars a month and that's it.. "unlimited" data message and minutes. 3g is cheaper also does not need to be unlocked. I'm on it currenttly
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SIMPLE Mobile Invoice: $43.63 has been applied to your account. Thank you.
Thank you for your payment of $43.63. Your confirmation number is 7701215xxxxxx
This was the bill I just payed in the beginning of March and the text the sent me. Customer service e helps u set up your apn.. They help unlike the douche that is t-mobile.
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I pay $30 plus less than $2 in sales tax with T - Mobile.
I've never had an issue with their customer service - and it was I fact one of the reasons I was happy to switch to them when my contract with Sprint was up.
People need to pick what works best for them.
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Bad thing about t-mobile is that when you run your limit on t-mobile they put you on 2g. Simp puts you on 3
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And they use the same towers
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Bad thing abiut Simple Mobile is that I'd pay $50 to be throttled after 2Gb whereas I now pay $30 and get 5Gb until throttled. And T - Mobile avtually tells you about the soft data cap up front.
Hey, Simple Mobile is great for whoever it works for, and T - Mobile is great for who it works for. Notice that I'm not calling them "douches" even though I disagree with some of their business practices.
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I am calling them douche because I've had a family plan since the razor came out and the price just gets crazy. They treated me like a wallet. And yeah simp tells you, read the fine print.
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T Mobile Classic plan to Value plan - Migrate Fee or ETF - which would you choose...

So we got a couple of new phones from T-Mo back in Nov 2012, thereby extending our contract for two years.
Now looking at their new Simple Value Plans, I am tempted to move over - as I am currently paying about $140 for 2 lines under family plan with Unlimited T&T and 5GB data ($20 Preferred Android plan) - My motivation to move is lower pricing and option to Tether - since I dont have that available to me under my current Preferred Android Data plan)
Tmo rep told me that there would be a $200/line migration fee - (Fair enough) and that they would give me $100 credit - so I end up paying $300 one time at the time of switching - I would still remain under contract though until I complete it.
Now if I decided to terminate the contract with TMob - I still have to pay $200/line ETF - however this gets me out of my contract completely - I can then sign up under a new value plan - no more contract.
I am not sure if under this second option, I will lose our current mobile #s ....... Though d move to Straight talk ($45/line for unlimited talk text and data) Prepaid plan, I can port my number and save some money - if i dont like it, I can sign up again with TMobile under their no contract simple value plan and bring my same number back
Is it worth all this trouble? I do want tethering and eventually to move over to Tmob Simple value plan - ETF or Migration ???
Any other options?

starxlights said:
So we got a couple of new phones from T-Mo back in Nov 2012, thereby extending our contract for two years.
Now looking at their new Simple Value Plans, I am tempted to move over - as I am currently paying about $140 for 2 lines under family plan with Unlimited T&T and 5GB data ($20 Preferred Android plan) - My motivation to move is lower pricing and option to Tether - since I dont have that available to me under my current Preferred Android Data plan)
Tmo rep told me that there would be a $200/line migration fee - (Fair enough) and that they would give me $100 credit - so I end up paying $300 one time at the time of switching - I would still remain under contract though until I complete it.
Now if I decided to terminate the contract with TMob - I still have to pay $200/line ETF - however this gets me out of my contract completely - I can then sign up under a new value plan - no more contract.
I am not sure if under this second option, I will lose our current mobile #s ....... Though d move to Straight talk ($45/line for unlimited talk text and data) Prepaid plan, I can port my number and save some money - if i dont like it, I can sign up again with TMobile under their no contract simple value plan and bring my same number back
Is it worth all this trouble? I do want tethering and eventually to move over to Tmob Simple value plan - ETF or Migration ???
Any other options?
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Second option you week lose your number. The account must be active to pry a number. Your third option I don't think we'll work either. Most companies won't let you port a number out that you ported to them.
By the way that's what I did, so I think it's worth it
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Second option you week lose your number. The account must be active to pry a number. Your third option I don't think we'll work either. Most companies won't let you port a number out that you ported to them.
By the way that's what I did, so I think it's worth it
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Once in 2008, I did port my number out of Tmo to Verizon through my employer, and later when I changed jobs, ported it back to Tmob... so thats not an issue...
One other option that comes to mind is to get two new lines under value plan from Tmob and once they are active, port these numbers over to those and pay the etf for breaking the contract... not sure if Tmob will agree to internal porting though.
Anyone has experience with Straight Talk?

When I was at tmobile they were trying to get me to move to the new plans but there weren't any fees involved. Just a straight move but I kept my value plan coz it was about 20 bucks cheaper.
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Port to Google Voice.... worked for me... Hit thanks if that helps
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starxlights said:
So we got a couple of new phones from T-Mo back in Nov 2012, thereby extending our contract for two years.
Now looking at their new Simple Value Plans, I am tempted to move over - as I am currently paying about $140 for 2 lines under family plan with Unlimited T&T and 5GB data ($20 Preferred Android plan) - My motivation to move is lower pricing and option to Tether - since I dont have that available to me under my current Preferred Android Data plan)
Tmo rep told me that there would be a $200/line migration fee - (Fair enough) and that they would give me $100 credit - so I end up paying $300 one time at the time of switching - I would still remain under contract though until I complete it.
Now if I decided to terminate the contract with TMob - I still have to pay $200/line ETF - however this gets me out of my contract completely - I can then sign up under a new value plan - no more contract.
I am not sure if under this second option, I will lose our current mobile #s ....... Though d move to Straight talk ($45/line for unlimited talk text and data) Prepaid plan, I can port my number and save some money - if i dont like it, I can sign up again with TMobile under their no contract simple value plan and bring my same number back
Is it worth all this trouble? I do want tethering and eventually to move over to Tmob Simple value plan - ETF or Migration ???
Any other options?
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Before iphone 5 come out to tmobile on april 12. They change data plan. No more classic or value plan only uncarrier plan unlimited everything for $120 n i think 5gb of internet. Dont swith they will not give you a value plan or call them and comfirm.
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drshorty said:
Dont swith they will not give you a value plan or call them and comfirm.
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Since, there is only one type of "Simple" plan available, thats the plan i mean - whatever they may call it - Value, Uncarrier or anything else
I couldnt understand the quoted sentence above - tell me again.

I switched all my 4 lines to the new plans and didn't have to pay any migration or etf fees. Just a simple straight move from the old plan to the new one; saving me about $40 a month including taxes/fees.
I was also under contract with a few months left. I'm no longer under contract since the switch. Try getting another rep to help you.
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MikeYuse0406 said:
I switched all my 4 lines to the new plans and didn't have to pay any migration or etf fees. Just a simple straight move from the old plan to the new one; saving me about $40 a month including taxes/fees.
I was also under contract with a few months left. I'm no longer under contract since the switch. Try getting another rep to help you.
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The fee is based on how long you've been under your current contact. So you being near the end of your contact there is no fee. For people just starting out on the contract it's 200.
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starxlights said:
Since, there is only one type of "Simple" plan available, thats the plan i mean - whatever they may call it - Value, Uncarrier or anything else
I couldnt understand the quoted sentence above - tell me again.
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First... are you looking at family plan or 1 linea...
I have family value plan of $90 at months, my linea is unlimited internet and my girl is 2gb of high speed internet. I dont care of unlimited talked. Uncarrier first linea is $50 plus $20 unlimited internet, at a second linea for $30 plus $10 of 2gb inertnet or $20 unlimited. So there is no more value plan, only uncarrier..
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fee is based on last time you upgraded you phone, not contract, if you are under contract they will switch you with out fee , you have to ride out remain of your contract term.
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amorek13 said:
fee is based on last time you upgraded you phone, not contract, if you are under contract they will switch you with out fee , you have to ride out remain of your contract term.
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Well that's what I meant. To me if you are under contract you got a discounted phone, but technically you are right. By the way op here is the fee schedule.
https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#jive-document?content=/api/core/v2/documents/3282
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kintwofan said:
Second option you week lose your number. The account must be active to pry a number. Your third option I don't think we'll work either. Most companies won't let you port a number out that you ported to them.
By the way that's what I did, so I think it's worth it
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I've ported my number 3 different times. From Tmobile to Cricket to Sprint and back to Tmobile. The carriers can't stop you from porting a number, but on occasion, their systems will screw something up and the number gets lost.

badutahboy said:
I've ported my number 3 different times. From Tmobile to Cricket to Sprint and back to Tmobile. The carriers can't stop you from porting a number, but on occasion, their systems will screw something up and the number gets lost.
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Well good to know. I've only ported a number once. I just remember ready in a couple contacts that they will deny you porting a number you ported to then. Guess its not enforced then.
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I have found that the sales people on the phone are more motivated and flexible than in the store and that you can negotiate pretty much what you want. When you ask for something, they say, "Hold on", ask their boss, and, invariably, say yes to your offer, or, come back with a good counter-offer. I have unlimited everything (real unlimited, i.e., no slow down) on three lines for about $220. I have never paid any activation fees and have even had fees waived in return for extending the contract. And don't worry about the tethering issue - if you root and flash a custom ROM, you can create your own hotspot for free even if the feature is not included in your plan.
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At least it works for me.

bellator7 said:
I have found that the sales people on the phone are more motivated and flexible than in the store and that you can negotiate pretty much what you want. When you ask for something, they say, "Hold on", ask their boss, and, invariably, say yes to your offer, or, come back with a good counter-offer. I have unlimited everything (real unlimited, i.e., no slow down) on three lines for about $220. I have never paid any activation fees and have even had fees waived in return for extending the contract. And don't worry about the tethering issue - if you root and flash a custom ROM, you can create your own hotspot for free even if the feature is not included in your plan.
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At least it works for me.
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I hear ya! In the past, T-Mobile has always been generous and within my ability to reason and negotiate with - so no complaints about that but for some reason, I find that suddenly they have become very unrelenting and unwilling to negotiate on some aspects of ones contract (Such as migration fee) - When I asked the Loyalty CSR he said that in the past, under various classic plans they had a lot of margin, but with these new ultra competitive uncarrier plans there is just no room to negotiate - I can understand that - yet, as a customer I have to negotiate
Anyway - they have agreed to give me $160 slack on my migration fee - so instead of $400 on my two family plan lines it will be $240 - and then the CSR mentioned that in June my current classic contract will enter its 8th month which will drop $50 from my Migration fee on each line down to $300 for both - the discount they offered of $160 will continue to be valid even then (CSR Notated the account) so it would make most sense to change over in june with the Migration Fee of only $140 ($300 MF -$160 discount). I created an XL sheet to check my breakeven compared to my current classic plan and by October I will be ahead on the Uncarrier plan.
I plan to go with Unlimited T&T family for $80, $10 for 2gb tethering data for wife and $20 /4gb tethering data for self. If I can get myself to root my note 2 by then and add the hotspot, I may just go with the $20 unlimited high speed data.
Somehow, unlike my previous devices, I am very happy with the stock rom and don't want to get into dealing with bugs, missed updates etc with custom roms - so I may just stay stock / unrooted.
ps - btw great signature image - where did you get such clean images of your past phones?

starxlights said:
...am very happy with the stock rom and don't want to get into dealing with bugs, missed updates etc with custom roms - so I may just stay stock / unrooted...
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The CyanogenMod 10.1 stable release is fully functional and bug-free. But rooting/modding isn't for everyone.
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...ps - btw great signature image - where did you get such clean images of your past phones?
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Thanks. I just searched google images.

Verizon Edge Glitch?

As you all know Verizon Edge is only for customers who have an upgrade available or new customers. Today while trying to upgrade one of my devices online ( note I don't have an upgrade available until next year), it let me buy the HTC One with the edge upgrade plan. I'm not sure if this is a glitch or if it's supposed to be that way. But I thought I would inform you guys.

x3demond3x said:
As you all know Verizon Edge is only for customers who have an upgrade available or new customers. Today while trying to upgrade one of my devices online ( note I don't have an upgrade available until next year), it let me buy the HTC One with the edge upgrade plan. I'm not sure if this is a glitch or if it's supposed to be that way. But I thought I would inform you guys.
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Are you on unlimited data?

karn101 said:
Are you on unlimited data?
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I was doing the same thing as well as the OP...I was just experimenting trying to help my dad get the One. It let us get all the way thru till the end until we hit activate, (( we stopped because he wants to think about it first )) but I truly believe this works....
to answer ^ question, my dad is on Unlimited Data and it did NOT remove it or offer him Verizon Maxx.....so Idk what to think...

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Are you on unlimited data?
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Nope. I am not.
K-OtiK said:
I was doing the same thing as well as the OP...I was just experimenting trying to help my dad get the One. It let us get all the way thru till the end until we hit activate, (( we stopped because he wants to think about it first )) but I truly believe this works....
to answer ^ question, my dad is on Unlimited Data and it did NOT remove it or offer him Verizon Maxx.....so Idk what to think...
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I already got a tracking number and everything so it looks like it does!

I can say that while I was at the store, the rep told me I would not lost my unlimited, grandfathered plan if I chose to use their Edge program. (Contrary to what everyone keeps saying...)

That's what I don't understand...I called corporate and they said that you HAVE to have an Upgrade available....
Oh well I guess as long as it works lmao

K-OtiK said:
That's what I don't understand...I called corporate and they said that you HAVE to have an Upgrade available....
Oh well I guess as long as it works lmao
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That's exactly what they told me too but apparently not when you do it online.

It did the same with me and I don't have an upgrade until next year. But I read somewhere in the pages of the process that it was with no contract. So I was wondering if they cancel your current contract and charge you the ETF (or not?) . You never now.
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Nope. I am not.
I already got a tracking number and everything so it looks like it does!
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So it allowed you to keep your current contract right, and get the one without any problems or hidden fees?
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I wish there was a way that Edge could charge a credit card instead of the account for the monthly payments.
While I am an account manager and can do almost whatever I want, I am not the owner and do not "directly" pay the bills.

I'm on unlimited data still and I am not available for upgrade. I selected upgrade at full retail, then selected the $25 pay option. I tried this out and I was able get any phone under the EDGE pay plan. I chose to purchase with a plan and it allowed me to keep my unlimited data and current plan. It will add the $25 to your account every month and you will also have to pay the 1st payment and upgrade fee at check out. It was $58.22 for me due today. At the last second I decided to not finish the purchase.

Syn Ack said:
I wish there was a way that Edge could charge a credit card instead of the account for the monthly payments.
While I am an account manager and can do almost whatever I want, I am not the owner and do not "directly" pay the bills.
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You could just go with monthly deductions from the card.
Edit: ahh I see never mind
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I'm not eligible for an upgrade, was able to pay full retail for my phone over 24 payments (NOT EDGE) and keep unlimited data, as well as not re-up the contract for another two years (my original upgrade date stayed the same [sometime in 2014]). This is a pretty big hole, I'd imagine they'll be correcting this soon and making into something of an "early EDGE" upgrade as opposed to what it is now.

vangorder said:
I'm not eligible for an upgrade, was able to pay full retail for my phone over 24 payments (NOT EDGE) and keep unlimited data, as well as not re-up the contract for another two years (my original upgrade date stayed the same [sometime in 2014]). This is a pretty big hole, I'd imagine they'll be correcting this soon and making into something of an "early EDGE" upgrade as opposed to what it is now.
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Are you sure you didn't get the Device Payment Plan. That is seperate from Edge and allows you to pay off a retail device over 12 months for $2 charge a month and lets you keep unlimited. Its been around for a few months.

Character Zero said:
Are you sure you didn't get the Device Payment Plan. That is seperate from Edge and allows you to pay off a retail device over 12 months for $2 charge a month and lets you keep unlimited. Its been around for a few months.
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I'm not sure what it was called but sounds about right, I know it wasn't Edge.
Still a pretty big hole though. Had they thought of it/seen this hole they could of called what they had given me a "courtesy" Edge upgrade - I still would have paid full price, then I would have lost unlimited data and been tied down for another two years.

vangorder said:
I'm not sure what it was called but sounds about right, I know it wasn't Edge.
Still a pretty big hole though. Had they thought of it/seen this hole they could of called what they had given me a "courtesy" Edge upgrade - I still would have paid full price, then I would have lost unlimited data and been tied down for another two years.
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Not really a hole. Its a plan they advertised that allowed you to keep unlimited. Its just a higher payment than the Edge plan. I assumed the Edge plan was going to replace this Payment Plan but for the time being they are keeping them separate.

migpol08 said:
It did the same with me and I don't have an upgrade until next year. But I read somewhere in the pages of the process that it was with no contract. So I was wondering if they cancel your current contract and charge you the ETF (or not?) . You never now.
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So it allowed you to keep your current contract right, and get the one without any problems or hidden fees?
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Yup! Phone gets here tomorrow and all they charged was the first months payment and the tax for the phone came out to $75

I hope all you guys who think this is a glitch know you may end up being a charged an etf. If not though please report back. I'd really like to know
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cstrife999 said:
I hope all you guys who think thiso whats is a glitch know you may end up being a charged an etf. If not though please report back. I'd really like to know
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That makes no sense. I'm not cancelling my line of service, so what exactly am I terminating? When it says you start a new contract, that's intended for new customers or customers with an upgrade. Because that's whom edge is intended for.

x3demond3x said:
That makes no sense. I'm not cancelling my line of service, so what exactly am I terminating? When it says you start a new contract, that's intended for new customers or customers with an upgrade. Because that's whom edge is intended for.
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Yes it does. If you don't have an upgrade available you could be seen as breaching your service contract. I've seen similar things happen in my line of work. Its possible for sure don't think it isn't. These people aren't new customers they're existing ones who are changing their contracts over to edge without have a legal exit to their current contract.
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Yes it does. If you don't have an upgrade available you could be seen as breaching your service contract. I've seen similar things happen in my line of work. Its possible for sure don't think it isn't. These people aren't new customers they're existing ones who are changing their contracts over to edge without have a legal exit to their current contract.
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It wouldn't hold up. The contract wasn't cancelled. These people who are doing it still have a line of service. You can't get charged an ETF without actually terminating a line.