[Q] Question about getting a replacement phone - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Over the last few days I had my phone plugged into the factory charger and it over heated.
The batter actually swelled up so fat that it pushed the cover off the back. It left green splotches the size of quarters on my screen that have gotten smaller over the last few days. The phone is still acting a little crazy, but it is useable now that I have my spare battery in it.
My phone is rooted.
My question is:
How is the best way to approach sprint regarding replacement of this phone. Since it didn't get wet, and didn't get dropped I don't think it should be an insurance replacement.
If I have to take the phone to a sprint store, is there a way I can brick this phone so they can't tell it was rooted?
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If it was me, I would go completely back to stock and take it in.
Were you running a SBC kernal that does that trickle charge thing? Might have overcharged the battery.

No need to brick the phone. Just unroot, return to stock rom, and take it in. You are still under warranty. They will likely give you a new phone and battery and charger. If they try to tell you otherwise, talk to a manager. Don't take their crap about making you pay 100 bucks for the insurance deductable, this isnt an insurance issue, its a warranty issue.

lordbater said:
Over the last few days I had my phone plugged into the factory charger and it over heated.
The batter actually swelled up so fat that it pushed the cover off the back. It left green splotches the size of quarters on my screen that have gotten smaller over the last few days. The phone is still acting a little crazy, but it is useable now that I have my spare battery in it.
My phone is rooted.
My question is:
How is the best way to approach sprint regarding replacement of this phone. Since it didn't get wet, and didn't get dropped I don't think it should be an insurance replacement.
If I have to take the phone to a sprint store, is there a way I can brick this phone so they can't tell it was rooted?
Thanks
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Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14455287&postcount=20
and then take it back to a Sprint store. No need to brick your phone.
borrowedchief said:
If it was me, I would go completely back to stock and take it in.
Were you running a SBC kernal that does that trickle charge thing? Might have overcharged the battery.
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SBC K-e-r-n-e-l-s have been around for months and there has been 1-2 users with wild accusations about batteries blowing up with really nothing to back them up.

I am running a Fresh rom, I was also using the wireless tether for about 5 hours straight, I believe that probably had something to do with it.
I was camping and needed to get online for work, I don't usually use the tether that much..
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I am almost certain sprint insurence covers water damage. please verify before taking my suggestion. If it does just give your evo a bath and fry it ith water damage! software tampering will be impossible to detect and if it is possible, highly unlikely.

If your going the insurance route, just report it stolen

atapia984 said:
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14455287&postcount=20
and then take it back to a Sprint store. No need to brick your phone.
SBC K-e-r-n-e-l-s have been around for months and there has been 1-2 users with wild accusations about batteries blowing up with really nothing to back them up.
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Thank you for pointing out my mistake. I appreciate you taking the time to correct me.

Water damge and lost or stolen u HAVE to pay the 100$ deductible. Return it to stock and u should get a free replacement or repair.
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It isn't a launch day EVO is it?? Because if I'm not mistaken its a one year warranty that is now up if so....
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u921333 said:
It isn't a launch day EVO is it?? Because if I'm not mistaken its a one year warranty that is now up if so....
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Warranty has nothing to do with in-store stuff, only pertains to batteries.
Your problem could have been caused by an SBC kernel. As a knowledgeable tech and fellow tinkerer, I'd turn you away if I caught wind of any rooting or flashing.
That being said, if you flash back to stock and unroot, your problem is covered under the ESRP portion of TEP, if you have it.

Sunsparc said:
Warranty has nothing to do with in-store stuff, only pertains to batteries.
Your problem could have been caused by an SBC kernel. As a knowledgeable tech and fellow tinkerer, I'd turn you away if I caught wind of any rooting or flashing.
That being said, if you flash back to stock and unroot, your problem is covered under the ESRP portion of TEP, if you have it.
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Excuse my ignorance, I used the youtube video to root my phone, I'm no expert by any means, what is an SBC kernel?
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, I was also using the wireless tether for about 5 hours straight, I believe that probably had something to do with it.
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Probably.
If your going the insurance route, just report it stolen
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No, that's insurance fraud, and is illegal.

Exactly. Asurion will cover "any" physical damage, ie rooting phone flashing SBC kernel and the battery exploding. Go to store if they deny ESRP claim you can file ERP claim.
Sent from my HTC Supersonic. Made by HTC tuned by cyanogen.

frcollier said:
Exactly. Asurion will cover "any" physical damage, ie rooting phone flashing SBC kernel and the battery exploding. Go to store if they deny ESRP claim you can file ERP claim.
Sent from my HTC Supersonic. Made by HTC tuned by cyanogen.
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If I"m still eligible I'd like to avoid another Assurion claim, (not sure I have another left)
Do yall think the splotches on the screen are consistent with overheating?
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frcollier said:
Exactly. Asurion will cover "any" physical damage, ie rooting phone flashing SBC kernel and the battery exploding. Go to store if they deny ESRP claim you can file ERP claim.
Sent from my HTC Supersonic. Made by HTC tuned by cyanogen.
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Update:
sorry for the delayed response, I don't seem to get notifications to this thread even though I'm subscribed..
My work hasn't given me the time allowed to unroot my phone and **** with sprint over warranty, I'm just going to file a claim. my last one was July 8th, so this will be my 2nd in a 12 month period and puts me in good shape for further claims if necessary.
Are yall positive I don't need to brick the phone before sending it back to assurion?
They won't care that it has been rooted?
Thanks for all the info, I'll be sure to keep this thread bookmarked, because I'm sure with my luck with phones I may need to follow the un-rooting process in the future..
Also:
They went back and forth about not being able to send me a new battery (which is what damaged the phone in the first place, likely because of the extended wifi tether in a 100+ degree truck), but, alas, the last person to 'process' my claim said they were throwing in a new charger and battery too..
saweet..
any chance I'll still get a new in box phone, or is this Evo way too old for that?
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Are yall positive I don't need to brick the phone before sending it back to assurion?
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Again, NO. That's insurance fraud, and it's illegal. Your phone is out of warranty, and it's broke. That's exactly what insurance is for. Just call them, tell them your phone is broke, and pay your deductible. You do not need to brick your phone, they don't care what the problem is. As long as you have a problem, and you pay the deductible, that's all they care. Intentionally bricking your phone to make a claim is illegal.
They won't care that it has been rooted?
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No, Asurion doesn't care. Sprint DOES care, because rooting voids your warranty. But Ausurion isn't sprint, and they dont care.
They went back and forth about not being able to send me a new battery (which is what damaged the phone in the first place, likely because of the extended wifi tether in a 100+ degree truck),
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Umm no. If you left the phone on wifi tether in a hot car in summer for over an hour, then it's YOUR fault it overheated, NOT the battery's fault.

got my phone
sent me a brand new phone.
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AND (drum roll, while I pull the boot out of my ass)
It has 2.3.3
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Eat the deductable...
lordbater said:
Over the last few days I had my phone plugged into the factory charger and it over heated.
The batter actually swelled up so fat that it pushed the cover off the back. It left green splotches the size of quarters on my screen that have gotten smaller over the last few days. The phone is still acting a little crazy, but it is usable now that I have my spare battery in it.
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Another "option"
I would reset my Droid...remove the M-SD card and eat (pay) the deductible... I know it is a warranty issue...but sometimes the lost phone scenario is the best way to get around them (Sprint) from asking too many questions about WTF happened to this phone. In whereas lies answers that will not abode well to them on you having the desired outcome; which is a new (refurbished) phone for you.
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[Q] sprint store with a rooted evo

so I have the screen separation appearing on the bottom right corner of my screen. I am rooted with CM6 and wanted to know should I unroot and go back to stock before taking my phone to Sprint Service center? If so, where can I found the stock latest 2.2 to flash my phone back to stock?
Thanks for all advice and helps in advance!
I got the screen replaced on my Evo last week due to dust under the upper left corner. I took it in just like I use it...running Fresh Rom and the Riptide theme. They won't say anything about being rooted unless you are bringing the phone in for a problem that may be related to rooting. Screen seperation isn't that type of problem. They didn't even mention it.
chazglenn3 said:
I got the screen replaced on my Evo last week due to dust under the upper left corner. I took it in just like I use it...running Fresh Rom and the Riptide theme. They won't say anything about being rooted unless you are bringing the phone in for a problem that may be related to rooting. Screen seperation isn't that type of problem. They didn't even mention it.
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so what did the do to fix the problem? they fix the screen or replace the phone?
jcarlm said:
so what did the do to fix the problem? they fix the screen or replace the phone?
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I said in my post "I got the screen replaced on my Evo last week". They removed the screen (outer glass, bezel, digitizer and LCD are all one assembly) and put a new one on. Took about an hour.
chazglenn3 said:
I said in my post "I got the screen replaced on my Evo last week". They removed the screen (outer glass, bezel, digitizer and LCD are all one assembly) and put a new one on. Took about an hour.
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Did they charge you?
If there is no physical damage (scratches, dents, water damage) it should be replaced for free.
While that guy was lucky, I would DEFINITELY unroot before taking it in. Rooting voids your entire warranty, and if they see it, even if your problem is hardware related and not software related, they can void the warranty and you will never get it fixed. Better safe than sorry.
o.k..
I need to find a rooted htc stock room that I can just flash..
I have been searching and can't find the one I need.
Links any one?
jcarlm said:
o.k..
I need to find a rooted htc stock room that I can just flash..
I have been searching and can't find the one I need.
Links any one?
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you need to unroot, not just flash a stock ROM... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800582 but first check if your s-on/off (read the link to find out more)
Forgot I had a nandroid backup saved on my computer of my phone while it still had HTC rom.
Turned out my glass on the front panel was version 1 which means my complete phone has to be replaced.
So now I will have Android 2.2 with HTC rom and will have to learn to root that. It was so easy to root when I had 2.1 but I'm sure I will be able to handle it.
New Evo on Thursday!
Hope the newer ones are better!
Any opinions on the new Evos or any thing I should know about the newer ones?
I called my local Sprint repair center and asked what their policy was on rooted phones. Like the OP said they didn't care as long as you aren't having software issues. If you are thinking about taking your phone in call the store and ask it won't hurt a bit. Now if you think they are going to replace your device save your self a trip and unroot first because the phone will need to be returned to stock before they will exchange it. The employees were actually impressed with what had been done with the phone and were very cool about it. Think about it they work on phones hopefully they like what they do, they think its cool too.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk Pro.
jcarlm said:
Forgot I had a nandroid backup saved on my computer of my phone while it still had HTC rom.
Turned out my glass on the front panel was version 1 which means my complete phone has to be replaced.
So now I will have Android 2.2 with HTC rom and will have to learn to root that. It was so easy to root when I had 2.1 but I'm sure I will be able to handle it.
New Evo on Thursday!
Hope the newer ones are better!
Any opinions on the new Evos or any thing I should know about the newer ones?
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I rooted a new one yesterday and used unrevoked without issue. It has actually gotten easier then when i had to use adb push and all that.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk Pro.
So, since I am getting a new phone out of this and my phone is still rooted, should I go back to completely stock?
All I did was flash back to my very first back up with HTC stock rom.
Will just having my Evo flashed to that first backup be enough when they ship off my phone after they hand me over my new one or should I fully restock my phone?
Does the phone go back to Sprint or HTC?
fully unroot and return the phone to stock it is easy to do its like 2 steps and takes only a few minutes.
people act like it is an hour long in depth process to root and unroot your phones its 5-10 minutes to do it and better not to take chances. All it takes is for one guy having a bad day to be a **** and make a note voiding warranty etc. Also in your case now is it really worth risking having to go home and unroot it then run back out to do the swap if they need you?
just unroot (not just flash stock htc actually unroot)
[Guide]How to Unroot the evo in two steps
[GUIDE] One Click How to Root the EVO with Unrevoked 3.21
zone23 - You're lucky... I went in today to get my button crack fixed, made an appointment, took some time off work, and the second I got in there the guy berated me for having a non-official extended battery and said they wouldn't do any work on it because its rooted - even though my problem had NOTHING to do with software.
unrooting right now and then going to a manager. generally sweet customer service... not today.
viper1619 said:
zone23 - You're lucky... I went in today to get my button crack fixed, made an appointment, took some time off work, and the second I got in there the guy berated me for having a non-official extended battery and said they wouldn't do any work on it because its rooted - even though my problem had NOTHING to do with software.
unrooting right now and then going to a manager. generally sweet customer service... not today.
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Ouch hope they didn't flag your account...if so your SOL unless you know someone or find a hella cool manager.
Always unroot it only takes a matter of minutes (or should) and can save you a lot of hassle.
viper1619 said:
zone23 - You're lucky... I went in today to get my button crack fixed, made an appointment, took some time off work, and the second I got in there the guy berated me for having a non-official extended battery and said they wouldn't do any work on it because its rooted - even though my problem had NOTHING to do with software.
unrooting right now and then going to a manager. generally sweet customer service... not today.
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I've given back a few rooted phones for non-root related issues (speaker bad, kickstand won't stay in, LEDs don't work - 5 evos total so far) with no issues. Did the same with a lot of flashed TP's (12) and TP2's (2).
They can void your warranty for rooting it, sure, but they can't over the battery. Just tell him you don't know anything about it and you bought it that way on craigslist. That doesn't protect your warranty, but unless the guy has just decided to be a total d-bag they'll probably replace it anyway.
Also, the employees behind the counter are just people too. Being nice and not acting like you have a sense of self-entitlement to anything you want goes a long way. Believe me, I know first-hand. Customers' attitude factors in fairly heavily in how they get charged at the computer shop I work at because the techs set the prices on jobs.
Just be nice, don't be an a-hole yourself. If they say they won't fix it - fine. Say thanks anyway, be polite, and leave with it. Go home, unroot it, pick a different sprint store, and go complain about your original problem again. Five bucks says they'll fix it no questions asked.
It sounds like some of you need to read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. The very notion of "my entire warranty is voided because I'm rooted" is completely illegal and anyone that tries to tell you otherwise could find themselves in some legal hot water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
tek818 said:
It sounds like some of you need to read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. The very notion of "my entire warranty is voided because I'm rooted" is completely illegal and anyone that tries to tell you otherwise could find themselves in some legal hot water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
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Not true, if you modify or alter a consumer product to a point that it performs significantly different than the manufacturer intended, the manufacturer is under no obligation to warranty it any longer.
I'm pretty sure this topic has been addressed many times and there is no set answer? I vaguely remember reading a legal article on it as well. It would be nice if there was an official statement made by both carriers and phone manufactures.
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sitlet said:
If there is no physical damage (scratches, dents, water damage) it should be replaced for free.
While that guy was lucky, I would DEFINITELY unroot before taking it in. Rooting voids your entire warranty, and if they see it, even if your problem is hardware related and not software related, they can void the warranty and you will never get it fixed. Better safe than sorry.
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That is not entirely true. They can not void your warrenty for issues unrelated to rooting. If you brick your rom, sure that is legit for them to do that...but if my LCD fails, and is unrelated to the rooting, then no they can not. If they try to do that, you make sure you fight it.
I had a repair center in my town refuse to fix my speaker on my mogul with low volume problem, because I had a scratch on my battery door cover. He said my warrenty was void to to "Physical damage."
After a phone call to Sprint, and apparently other complaints that service center lost thier contract with Sprint. I ended up with a touch pro 2.... (Although I just wanted my mogul fixed , I was never happy with the TP2, and bought an EVO )

Asurion phone claim

I keep having an issue with my EVO with constant reboots.The reboots seem like it is the same scenario that everyone else has. Seems like heavy data usage, sometimes while charging, it just bootloops once or could be 20 times. I know I can unroot and take it to a Sprint Store and let them check it out. I am considerng just making a claim on my insurance and just pay the $100.00 deductable. I have never made a claim before. I was going to tell them it has water damage. What kind of run around do they give you? Any advice?
Well if sprint found out that phone was rooted you will have to pay those $100. So if am not wrong there is no need to lie if you already willing to pay those $100. If am wrong please correct me.
If you decide to claim it with Asurion they really don't ask any questions. When I made my claim I just told them "I messed it up somehow" and that was good enough. They don't give a crap.
I would unroot and bring it in to the sprint store first, it's worth a shot. If you can get out of having to drop $100 why not at least try?
File the claim online and there are no hassles.
makskylan said:
I keep having an issue with my EVO with constant reboots.The reboots seem like it is the same scenario that everyone else has. Seems like heavy data usage, sometimes while charging, it just bootloops once or could be 20 times. I know I can unroot and take it to a Sprint Store and let them check it out. I am considerng just making a claim on my insurance and just pay the $100.00 deductable. I have never made a claim before. I was going to tell them it has water damage. What kind of run around do they give you? Any advice?
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Asurion doesn't care. They are insurance, that's what its for. It may be worth as the others have said, running the newest full update and taking it in to sprint.
I believe there is a way they can tell if it is water damage inside the phone. A while back when i had a razor phone with Assurion ins i was told that they didnt cover water damage. Dont know about now though?
luist4498 said:
I believe there is a way they can tell if it is water damage inside the phone. A while back when i ad a razor phone with Assurion ins i was told that they didnt cover water damage. Dont know about now though?
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Yes it is that little red and white sticker by the battery, just tell them you lost it down an ice fishing hole and pay the $100
Do you have to send them the damaged phone back to them? That is if I tell them it's broken and not lost.
makskylan said:
Do you have to send them the damaged phone back to them? That is if I tell them it's broken and not lost.
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If the phone isn't lost or stolen, you have to send it back to them. If its lost and you find it, you then are suppose to send it to them.
makskylan said:
I keep having an issue with my EVO with constant reboots.The reboots seem like it is the same scenario that everyone else has. Seems like heavy data usage, sometimes while charging, it just bootloops once or could be 20 times. I know I can unroot and take it to a Sprint Store and let them check it out. I am considerng just making a claim on my insurance and just pay the $100.00 deductable. I have never made a claim before. I was going to tell them it has water damage. What kind of run around do they give you? Any advice?
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The only way I fixed my reboot problem was by getting a new EVO.
The EVO you wish you had
I went online after I came home from work and filed a claim. I told them it doesn't charge right, that it has bent pins in the port. I know it cost a hundred bucks but getting tired of the bootloops. Now I just have to root my new one when it gets here. I have downloaded the Unrevolked files and I still have the origional files that I rooted this one with. I believe it was the toast method. Thanks for the info guys...
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I still dont understand why you wouldnt spend a half hour, unroot, and take it into a sprint store. The WORST case, they send you to asurion. The BEST case, you get a brand new phone for free. That's why your phone has a one year warranty, for issues like this...
When you get your replacement and send in your old one make sure you remove the battery and sd card. All they want back is the phone, keep all cables and batteries, etc.

Sprint service and repair policy FACTS

Copypasta from the Photon forum:
If juggs knows how to flash a pre-rooted on an unlocked phone he hasn't shared it and would much rather post that the workaround is bull****. I'm not really in the mood for this crap. I put up with a lot of BS when working on HDMwIn and FullHDMI. I have deleted the guide, Evo Desktop, Sprint S&R policy threads and other contribs. Don't expect any other projects from me to be posted on xda.
7. If you bring you rooted phone in for service because you screwed up I will try to fix it but reserve the right to laugh at you, unroot your phone and flash it to the latest software and laugh at you some more.
I lol'd.
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7. If you bring you rooted phone in for service because you screwed up I will try to fix it but reserve the right to laugh at you, unroot your phone and flash it to the latest software and laugh at you some more.
I lol'd.
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lmao!!! BUT JUST remember. not every tech will know everything about rooting. We try. but sometimes, we just don't have time in our lives.
but still. LOL!!!!! ON THE screwing it up part.... the customer should be billed for a trouble ticket. It isn't sprints responsibility to fix the customers mistakes.
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not every tech will know everything about rooting. We try. but sometimes, we just don't have time in our lives.
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Agreed. Considering the level of experience I have with deving and testing it's even more frustrating as an ISC tech. ISC techs are generally ignored and denied Sprint forum access simply because they don't work at a corporate location.
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the customer should be billed for a trouble ticket. It isn't sprints responsibility to fix the customers mistakes.
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I agree with this point as well however it can be very difficult and time consuming to dig through the phone to see if it's a corrupt ROM, incompatible app and so on or just user error.
what about if you have a hardware problem (usb port) and you've already taken the phone apart?
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what about if you have a hardware problem (usb port) and you've already taken the phone apart?
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If the tamper sticker is missing that puts the burden of proof of "customer tampering" on the service department. Expect the phone to be thoroughly inspected for signs of tampering. If no evidence can be found then it's treated as any other device.
My two questions to you are: Why was the phone disassembled and are the solder points (aka pads) on the board intact? The first one is because I'm curious but the second determines if the device damage is classified as defect (pads intact) or abuse (pads missing or pulled up from the board).
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If the tamper sticker is missing that puts the burden of proof of "customer tampering" on the service department. Expect the phone to be thoroughly inspected for signs of tampering. If no evidence can be found then it's treated as any other device.
My two questions to you are: Why was the phone disassembled and are the solder points (aka pads) on the board intact? The first one is because I'm curious but the second determines if the device damage is classified as defect (pads intact) or abuse (pads missing or pulled up from the board).
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the phone was taken apart to sand the black paint off the rim to make the phone red. clearly tampered with
i didn't think to check the usb port while i was inside the phone but i know it's my fault. i used a cheap off-brand car charger one time and ever since then it's been loose.
my question mostly leads to, is it worth it keep my TEP for $7/month when my phone won't be able to be repaired because the tamper sticker is gone and it shows very awesome and visible signs or customer tampering.
once you like do something like that, WHY ON EARTH would you pay 7 bucks a month? LMAO! OMG. lol. However, YOU CAN just say you lost the phone. haha. But if it is a cool tech, maybe he'll cut you some slack if you tell him you'll pay up whatever is needed to fix the issue.
Thanks for the info guys
Sooo, I have a question for you. I've been trying to deal with this for over a week now. The battery life on my Evo has been horrid as of late. I've had the phone for a little under a year now. I'm not exaclty a n00b. I know how to flash ROMs, kernels, ect. Battery life was never really a problem (not the best, but I knew what to expect). I could get around 22-26 hours with moderate use on a normal day. All of a sudden (since flashing a sense 3.0 ROM) my battery life was took a complete dump. I'm lucky to get around 6 hours of use now. The battery drains almost 15% in about 5 minutes after being unplugged from the charger and exponentially after that.
I already unrooted the phone, rooted it again, flashed a new ROM, and nothing seems to help. I took the phone to Sprint and they said the phone and battery checked out perfectly fine. Well, I'm not buying it as obviously something here is not right. If it's not the battery then it's the phone and they should be able to give me a replacement as I'm stil under the 1 year manufacturer warrenty that they do indeed cover correct?
Well, I dropped off the phone today for over 2 hours only to have it returned, not replaced, and told they "updated" it. I'm still having the same exact issue so what do I need to do/tell these people to have the phone replaced!?
Thanks!
illatwill said:
Sooo, I have a question for you. I've been trying to deal with this for over a week now. The battery life on my Evo has been horrid as of late. I've had the phone for a little under a year now. I'm not exaclty a n00b. I know how to flash ROMs, kernels, ect. Battery life was never really a problem (not the best, but I knew what to expect). I could get around 22-26 hours with moderate use on a normal day. All of a sudden (since flashing a sense 3.0 ROM) my battery life was took a complete dump. I'm lucky to get around 6 hours of use now. The battery drains almost 15% in about 5 minutes after being unplugged from the charger and exponentially after that.
I already unrooted the phone, rooted it again, flashed a new ROM, and nothing seems to help. I took the phone to Sprint and they said the phone and battery checked out perfectly fine. Well, I'm not buying it as obviously something here is not right. If it's not the battery then it's the phone and they should be able to give me a replacement as I'm stil under the 1 year manufacturer warrenty that they do indeed cover correct?
Well, I dropped off the phone today for over 2 hours only to have it returned, not replaced, and told they "updated" it. I'm still having the same exact issue so what do I need to do/tell these people to have the phone replaced!?
Thanks!
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To clear some things up. A proper battery test takes 6-8 hours, any store tell you otherwise they're full of it. It's also generally agreed that any ROM/Kernel change needs atleast 2 days of use before you can trust battery life results. In addition, a battery calibration should be the first thing done with a ROM/Kernel change.
I personally feel that if a user flashes a custom ROM/Kernel and it has an adverse and unresolvable effect on the phone that it should not be covered however Sprint rooted phone policy says otherwise. You also have to consider that any replacement will end up being a refurb and I'm not sure how things are where you are but I wouldn't take a refub in my regoin unless I had no choice.
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7. If you bring you rooted phone in for service because you screwed up I will try to fix it but reserve the right to laugh at you, unroot your phone and flash it to the latest software and laugh at you some more.
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Probably the best rule in the list!!
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2. You are not eligible for replacement/repair because you device is scratched, dirty, or the paint is wearing off
4. TEP, ESRP covers, at no charge: defective/cracked screens with no more than 2 cracks that are less than 1 inch long, mechanical or electrical failure, broken hinge/lens/port (provided the mainboard still functions and in the case of ports, the solder pads are not missing from the board). If you don't have TEP or ESRP or it's $35.
5. TEP/ERP covers device replacement with the payment of a $50 or $100 deductible in the following cases: screen has more than two cracks, screen has cracks more than 1 inch long, liquid damage, housing has more than two cracks, flip assembly or keyboard is separated or missing, total device failure, circuit board damage (like the microusb connector's solder pads missing from the board), smashed, lost/stolen. If you don't have TEP or ERP, you have to buy a new phone.
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in reference to # 2,4 and 5. I dropped my phone (EVO 4G) and got it replaced with TEP and paying the $120 deductible about 3 weeks ago. The phone now has a 3/4 of an inch long curved scratch on the screen. (i thought it had gorilla glass) so would this be covered as per # 4 or is it once again a deductible for the phone as outlined in # 5 above.
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in reference to # 2,4 and 5. I dropped my phone (EVO 4G) and got it replaced with TEP and paying the $120 deductible about 3 weeks ago. The phone now has a 3/4 of an inch long curved scratch on the screen. (i thought it had gorilla glass) so would this be covered as per # 4 or is it once again a deductible for the phone as outlined in # 5 above.
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The screen, as I was told, has a higher silica content than Gorilla Glass so it is more prone to cracks and scratches. The bad part is that scratches, even on the screen, fall under #2.
Thanks for posting this man!
I was thinking about taking my EVO (rooted) in for service, having a hard time charging it.. Only thing that's been holding me back: I do not want my phone returned un-rooted..
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One question... Why didn't Sprint even wanna touch my phone anymore when they saw it was rooted?
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One question... Why didn't Sprint even wanna touch my phone anymore when they saw it was rooted?
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Item #1 on the list. SPRINT SERVICES ROOTED PHONES. Company Policy. ANY store tell you otherwise they are WRONG. Tell them to check the Device Solutions Portal.
Updated first post regarding Nexus/Shift replacements for defective Evo's
this is very interesting. I am a care rep, and we always get 90000 different stories about the stores. The real bad ones are the indirect stores... i have heard some horror stories from customers about them that i can hardly even believe... But thank you for clearing some of this up. AND!!! i hope you guys call NSS instead of having the customer calling us when they come into your store with issues.
Lokifish Marz please help!
My EVO is having screen separation issues. It started as light leakage and has gotten worse. When you press the capacitive buttons you can feel the glass move and squeak. I currently do not have tep and was wondering what my options are. The phone is 8 months old. I know there is a signup window for tep for any phone starting August 1st. So if geting my phone repaired or replaced will require tep that would be nice to know. Also since this is a known issue would this qualify them being able to trade up a Nexus s or shift? Thanks for your help!
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Not sure if I should Unroot my phone...a few other questions too

I'm planning to take my Evo into the Sprint store tomorrow in hopes to get a new/refurbed phone. Right now I am rooted and using CM7 so my main question is should I unroot and flash a stock rom or just flash a stock rom and keep it rooted?
On to my next question. I've never had an issue with my Evo where I had to take it into the Sprint store as of yet. I pay the $7 a month for the TEP so I'm wondering if I go and explain my issue if I'd be covered for a free replacement or not.
Here's what I have going on:
- I've dropped it a few times and it's separating a bit between the screen and the back of the phone. And it's pretty dinged up looking on the sides
- I think because of the separation/dropping my screen doesn't always display after it wakes....If I tap the phone near the power button the screen will come back usually. Otherwise I have to pull the battery and restart it
- The kickstand barely stays down. It's always popping up and is really annoying.
- Just about every call over 30 mins will have at least one dropped call...Very annoying
- Not all of my text messages get sent out....Sometimes people get them days later
Thoughts?
I would just flash a stock ROM.
Actually, everyone should do a nandroid of their phone @ Stock immediately after rooting, just to fall back on. I use mine for Profile updates, etc.
Either way, I doubt they ever check Hboot to see if you're S-On
HipKat said:
I would just flash a stock ROM.
Actually, everyone should do a nandroid of their phone @ Stock immediately after rooting, just to fall back on. I use mine for Profile updates, etc.
Either way, I doubt they ever check Hboot to see if you're S-On
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Thanks for the reply.......what Stock Rom do you suggest? I haven't used a Sense Rom in a long time so what Rom is the closest to Stock as it gets?
There is a PC36IMG you can flash thru hboot that will completely unroot and return to stock, s-on, the whole works and it only takes like 5 min to do just incase they want to give you another phone and keep your broken one.
After that I would invest in an Otterbox lol.
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ALWAYS a good idea to unroot and flash a stock rom before taking it to sprint. As we all know, rooting voids your warranty, and if they catch it, they might not fix your phone.
However, since you say you dropped your phone a lot, and the phone has physical damage, that also voids your warranty. There is a slim chance you might get a nice rep that will get you a refurb under warranty. But I can pretty much guarantee you they will say they wont fix a phone that has been dropped so much, in which case you will need to call Asurion and pay the 100 dollar deductible to get a refurb from them.
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ALWAYS a good idea to unroot and flash a stock rom before taking it to sprint. As we all know, rooting voids your warranty, and if they catch it, they might not fix your phone.
However, since you say you dropped your phone a lot, and the phone has physical damage, that also voids your warranty. There is a slim chance you might get a nice rep that will get you a refurb under warranty. But I can pretty much guarantee you they will say they wont fix a phone that has been dropped so much, in which case you will need to call Asurion and pay the 100 dollar deductible to get a refurb from them.
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Unless they really examined my phone they probably wouldn't even know I've dropped it. There are some scratches on the side which could be looked at as normal wear and tear....The separation is visible if you pull on the phone too.
With that said what does the TEP actually cover? I don't want to go into the store and waste my time if they can't do much for me you know? haha
Unless they really examined my phone they probably wouldn't even know I've dropped it.
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From your first post:
"- I've dropped it a few times and it's separating a bit between the screen and the back of the phone. And it's pretty dinged up looking on the sides"
That sounds pretty damaged to me. And yes, they WILL really examine it, thats the whole point.
With that said what does the TEP actually cover?
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Insurance covers everything your warranty doesnt. The warranty covers manufacturer defects for one year. I.e. if your phone has no physical or water damage, it's usually a hardware defect and will be covered under the warranty. Insurance covers everything else, if you drop/break/lose/get stolen/brick by rooting, insurance will cover with the deductible.

[Q] How do I short circuit my E4GT? (serious)

Long story short, I flashed a boatloader for the european version of the phone and my phone is bricked.
I want to know how to short circuit my phone without making it look intentional. I am not insured but I do have warrenty, if I short circuit the phone, will they be able to fix it in the sprint store? I am really hoping they don't. I just want a new phone. I was told that I was have to pay a $35 fee to get the phone fixed, what do you guys think? BEst way to short circuit this phone? (Not with water please)
UPDATE:
So my cuz and I went to the sprint store and his friend saw the phone and the first thing he asked if it was rooted, I said yeah. He couldn't fix it, but said he will take care of it when exchanging it and since I didn't have insurance, I had to pay the $35 warranty exchange. Furthermore, I added the insurance with the exhange, I am picking up the exchanged phone tomorrow because it had to be ordered.
Thanks a lot guys for the help.
This is why im glad i have insurance if i brick it its at the bottom of a lake. What warranty. As he said even download mode warns you of the possible warranty voiding. Least expensive option now is probably repair.
Besides the things I'd like to say about this situation, I'll say something else. It won't go into download mode? You could try getting a USB jig and see if that will force it into download mode. I'm holding back the temptation to say something really smartass. This was a very expensive lesson, huh? Sending it in to unbrick it, if all else fails, is your last resort. With a $500 phone, you can't afford NOT to get insurance for it?! Even if you had insurance, you wouldn't get a brand new phone.
I'm not trying to be a ****, so don't take it that way.
im referring to the 1 year warrenty that comes with the phone, it protections against defections in the phone. If I short circuit it, it will be defected... no more useless comments please, don't remind me of what I already know; I know that I should have gotten the insurance, enough said about that.
Would really appreciate it if someone could actually answer my question
newalker, would sprint be able to tell that the phone is rooted if i shorted out to the point that it wont turn on? was thinking about using a 9 volt battery to do so.
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im referring to the 1 year warrenty that comes with the phone, it protections against defections in the phone. If I short circuit it, it will be defected... no more useless comments please, don't remind me of what I already know; I know that I should have gotten the insurance, enough said about that.
Would really appreciate it if someone could actually answer my question
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If you fry the usb port theyll blame it on you using an aftermarket charger since your stock one is fine. You probably wont be lucky enough to even keep them from checking the rom status. You have a phone capable of being repaired by samsung soon you may have nothing.
The warranty covering defects was voided by a custom rom. The reason they wont honor it after rooting or custom rom is things such as overclocking. Many things can be done via software that would normally be replaced as defective.
If you cant make it so they never find out then all warrantys are null and void period. Truth and fact.
how do I get this 35 dollar exchange done sir? How can I get the 35 dollar exchange w/o them finding out I rooted the phone? :/ been such a stressful week, been bricked for a week. What's the BEST thing I can do right now in my situation?>
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how do I get this 35 dollar exchange done sir? How can I get the 35 dollar exchange w/o them finding out I rooted the phone? :/ been such a stressful week, been bricked for a week. What's the BEST thing I can do right now in my situation?>
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If you haven't read these two threads, I'd suggest doing so. Neither thread has lead to a solution yet (other than getting the phone replaced).
help - I did something bad
I screwed up / Installing ICS for international SGS2
Good luck...
I will leave this here as well. This is the SGS2 i9100 USB driver. It is a rar file. You will need to extract it and install. See if Odin will recognize the phone after installing. Please report back....
http://db.tt/g8hP2llV
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#1 --- Avoid Flashing Cooked ROMS on your phone...live with stock!!! I do and havn't had any problems at all..
Seems like there are more people complaining about all theses cooked ROMS and how they either work perfectly...or suck some way or another or have tons of glichs.
#2 --- Always, and I mean Always get $8 insurance on a Smartphone, in the long run this will save your ass...big time...
#3 --- People look at the 2 year contact price of the phone...not the really price of the phone (which is $549 I believe) and thats what gets them in trouble...ahhh my phones only $200 or less, I dont need insurance...yet if you break your phone you have a POS brick weight...that will now cost you over $500 to replace...or you could pay $8 a month and if something goes wrong, The Sprint Repair Center will fix it free...or replace it with a refurb unit....Even if you make a claim due to water damage or something, its still cheaper than the $500+ dollars you will have to fork out...
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I will leave this here as well. This is the SGS2 i9100 USB driver. It is a rar file. You will need to extract it and install. See if Odin will recognize the phone after installing. Please report back....
http://db.tt/g8hP2llV
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Your one smart guy John. You have helped me a several times with some responses to my questions and I really appreciate it. If your idea works you’ll make a quite a few people happy on here. Seen a handful of these issues with people flashing the Int versions. If this doesn’t work I would use the 9V battery idea and run it across the board.
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If I short circuit it, it will be defected...
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edit,... not worth the time
This is why you READ, and READ some more!!!
I dare you to bring it to my store. Nothing gets passed a well trained tech. Your best bet is to go to an advanced exchange only store, the reps are not trained like the techs. Pay the 35 and call it a day. As for the microwave comment, solder points get a white residue on them after being microwaved, to a trained tech it looks like corrosion.
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Sorry, not to be n [email protected]@hole here, because what happened to you really sucks, but if you screwed up your phone by doing something dangerous without doing proper research (ie: try to flash something designed for the European Galaxy S2 onto an Epic touch), why should Sprint eat the cost and give you a replacement phone? I mean you are basically asking for a way to cheat Sprint.
Something to consider. I really do feel for you and hope somehow someone comes up with a fix.
the best easy to do what ur asking and not get caught would be to take a fully charged 18v battery from a drill, 2 wires either stripped on both end or to make it easier put alligator crimps.on each end and hook the battery to the terminals on back of phone where battery usually touches and then hit the power button on your phone. it will leave no trace and even if it does get powered up its well enough outside the read parameters to where nobody can catch it. ive seen this done already to atleast 7 or 8 phones. have fun
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Pay to get it jtaged i don't know how many people have done this we are not illiterate? On topic leave it a a hit place my fiance forgot her phone in the car when it was hot really hot and it messed up.
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So sprint covers rooted phones but doesn't cover physically damaged phones......try telling the truth and not being an idiot and listening to almost anyone else here. 9v battery? Really?
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9v battery? Really?
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wrong radio shack, 18 volt
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Aren't you able to add insurance on your phone at any time??
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Yes you can but it would look suspicious if the phone needed work shortly after the insurance kicked in.

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