My wife got an evo like 3 months ago and I've been begging her to let me root it and play around. She finally said ok but wants to stay on stock rom bit remove bkoatware. So my question is I was gonna root with the universal one click but after reading the Instructions it flashes a custom rom (sprint lovers) at the end. What method can u use to root it with s-off but stay on the stock rom for now until I can find her an awesome rom she would like? That's all I want right now is full root with s off with custom recovery but on stock rom. Thank you in advance.
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Unrevoked 3
Sprint lovers is pretty much stock. I believe he used Calk's exploit to make the 3G hotspot feature work but to tether 4G you need wireless tether.
To remove bloatware, use Titanium backup.
www.unrevoked.com. doesn't even lose any data. really a great tool.
if you want to learn a thing or two, use the link in my sig. careful, it wipes...
I rooted my Evo with newest unrevoked. It worked great and like already mentioned above you will not lose any data. With unrevoked you will have the stock rom. First thing to do is make a nandroid backup. Also I installed Amon Ra v2.3 because a lot of people haber better results with out over clockwork
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I rooted my Evo with newest unrevoked. It worked great and like already mentioned above you will not lose any data. With unrevoked you will have the stock rom. First thing to do is make a nandroid backup. Also I installed Amon Ra v2.3 because a lot of people haber better results with out over clockwork
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btw the 'better results' you are talking of has nothing to do with overclock. amon-ra is a recovery, that works better (most agree) than clockworkmod. nothing to do with in the rom.
I rooted my Evo with newest unrevoked. It worked great and like already mentioned above you will not lose any data. With unrevoked you will have the stock rom. First thing to do is make a nandroid backup. Also I installed Amon Ra v2.3 because a lot of people haber better results with out over clockwork but you cannot use rom manager with amon ra. You may want to buy titanium back because you can freeze apps instead of removing them. The benefit is that if the app you remove odd needed for the system to run you can just unfreeze it and everything will be ok. Where as if you uninstall the app may be in a world of hurt. If the phone runs fine for a few day with the app frozen then you can uninstall the app.
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Amon Ra does work better than clockwork for me. Seems to handle clearing the data and other system parts that are needed for flashing different roms.
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Amon Ra does work better than clockwork for me. Seems to handle clearing the data and other system parts that are needed for flashing different roms.
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oh srry read your comment wrong. i read amon-ra works better results without overclock. i guess you said over clockwork. ok then ignore my previous comment.
Thanks guys. I have an epic so I'm just trying to learn the evo. Thank you. I have clockwork for the epic and I hate it. If I use unrevoked I can then use rom manager to flash amon_ra right? I don't really care for rom manager support.
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Also I know you also have to backup the rsa keys. I'm gonna use unrevoked and then flash amon ra. How do I backup the keys? Also I want unrevoked forever right?
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musclehead84 said:
Also I know you also have to backup the rsa keys. I'm gonna use unrevoked and then flash amon ra. How do I backup the keys? Also I want unrevoked forever right?
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Unrevoked includes Forever... flashing separately would just be redundant. Older versions of unrevoked didn't nand unlock, newer versions do.
I backed up my keys using ADB, but this was before I knew I could back them up in recovery. Using Amon Ra, go to the normal backup/restore screen, uncheck the first three things with the power button, then check only the wimax option. Then do your backup. You will, of course, want to back up the rom as well. I'd just suggest doing them separately so you can keep your wimax backup in multiple places without taking up a ton of space.
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Also I know you also have to backup the rsa keys. I'm gonna use unrevoked and then flash amon ra. How do I backup the keys? Also I want unrevoked forever right?
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unrevoked automatically runs unrevoked forever. to backup rsa keys, just make a nand backup and be sure to include wimax partition in the backup.
edit: jane beat me to it.
Thanks guys. Just got done rooting the phone using unrevoked3. Went flawless. Now I gotta talk her into letting me play. I'm gonna sneak a custom kernel in on her. Any recommendations for stock rom that I can overclock a little bit? Thanks guys I really do appreciate it
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musclehead84 said:
Thanks guys. Just got done rooting the phone using unrevoked3. Went flawless. Now I gotta talk her into letting me play. I'm gonna sneak a custom kernel in on her. Any recommendations for stock rom that I can overclock a little bit? Thanks guys I really do appreciate it
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myns is convincing, if just for the looks. very nice rom for beginners. also mikfroyo maybe. or just go right for it with cm7 or miui (lawlz).
for sense kernels, netarchy's or ziggys (on his website ziggy471.com)
Yeah she loves sense and I keep telling her there are some custom roms that have sense overlay but I do like myns warm rom. Looks awesome. Ill just get a custom kernel for now and overclock it. Also I haven't flashed amon ra yet. I still have cwm 3.0.0.5 flashed. Is there anyway to backup the keys seperately in cwm or not. I did a nand backup already. I know u said in amon ra you can backup the keys seperately. If I can't on cwm ill just flash amon ra then. That ls guys.
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If you want to install Amon Ra then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026 for the Evo. I choose to use the the Bootloader way. Just remember that any backup you do with Clockwork can not be used with Amon Ra to restore and vise versa. Also ALWAYS ALWAYS keep a backup copy of your nandroid backups somewhere other than the SD card. I have personally been saved by doing this because for some unknown reason my nandroid folder went MIA one day from the SD Card but I had copies on my computer.
I just rooted my daughters evo yesterday with unrevoked and lost nothing and had a clean root. I also rooted mine and my wifes evo with unrevoked and flawless. unrevoked ftw!
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If you want to install Amon Ra then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026 for the Evo. I choose to use the the Bootloader way. Just remember that any backup you do with Clockwork can not be used with Amon Ra to restore and vise versa. Also ALWAYS ALWAYS keep a backup copy of your nandroid backups somewhere other than the SD card. I have personally been saved by doing this because for some unknown reason my nandroid folder went MIA one day from the SD Card but I had copies on my computer.
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Great advise with the backups! Gonna do that now.
This may be over kill but everytime I do a nandroid backup, with Amon-RA I always select to include the wimax RSA keys. You can just have one, but It is better to have and not need than it is to need and not have.
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I'm curious, who uses which and why?
*Amon. Oops
I personally use cw...but many people on this forum swear by amon bc they say it is more reliable... some roms require you to use amon to flash. ...I personally have never had issues flashing with cw...
Bottom line is that we have two good choices if you are a flashaholic
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Amon-ra is my preference 0 errors. Clockwork is nice also, has its own app but people have reported a couple of flashing errors. Both are awesome all I can say is try out both see which one you like better.
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I was kind of tempted with the features and GUI of Clockwork, but after reading a bit on here, it seems like Amon Ra is the reliable way to go. I'm new to Evo rooting and roms, but when I had my Nexus One, AR was absolutely the way to go. Rock freakin' solid.
Currently if you have a evo with hboot 2.02 or 2.10 the only recovery u can use after rooting is amon ra...just a fyi
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Amon by far.
Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.
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Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
I use Amon_ra because it backs up the wimax rsa keys. That's the only advantage I saw
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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The solution is to place your flashable .zip files to the base sdcard directory and not within a subfolder.
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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Like the person above said, Amon_RA 1.8.0 can only use ZIP files which are on the root of your SD card, not in a sub-folder. Version 2.0 (which Amon_RA has suggested will be coming soon-ish) will have folder navigation.
Amon Ra currently but I have used both. The reasons are clear it backs the RSA keys, and does clear when wiping.
Btw try #grep RSA /sdcard/nandroid/HT065HL*/(name of nandroid file)/wimax.img
You'll see where your RSA keys are stored in your nandroid.
I go back and forth.... I use amon ra for nandroid backups and serious flashes like radio pri nv all that jazz. I like clockwork for ease sometimes. I don't use app2sd. I use titanium to wipe davlik and repeat in either cw or amon ra just to be sure... They both have their good points. and bad
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I just got my Evo last Tuesday and last night finally built up the courage to root it. I used unrevoked 3.3 without any hassles then flashed Sprint lovers 12/31/10. I'm happy with it other than the battery life. I'm thinking of flashing another rom to see if that helps. However, I don't want to lose 4g. That's what brings me to my question about Amon_RA. I read the thread about the risks right now. In ROM Manager I get the option to install Amon_RA 1.8.0 and I'm not sure if that would be safe with hboot 2.10 or not. I did a backup with clockwork already and I'm wondering if that keeps my 4g keys or do I absolutely need Amon_RA to back them up.
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Clockwork does not back up your RSA keys, but there is a thread somewhere around here on how to back them up manually from terminal emulator. I don't know much about Amon Ra.
I'm on my phone or I would like you to the thread.
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Here is the thread to back up your RSA keys manually.
[UPDATE, INFO AND LINKS]*PLEASE READ* Concerns about Amon_Ra and Clockworkmod
As for your question about the Amon_RA. If you have a recovery installed that works.. I wouldn't change it unless you have to.
[ROOT] unrevoked3 v3.3 (with support for new HBOOT)
The Unrevoked 3.3 uses ClockworkMod 3.0.0.2 witch has options to back up WiMAX keys.
[ROM] Myn’s Warm TwoPointTwo - [RLS 4 - 11/25/2010] - Making Sense Of It All!
This is the ROM I use, but if you don't like sense go with CyanogenMod.
I hope this all helps
enjoy your evo
I'm definatley going to check out that rom. I'm a big fan of sense especially since it reminds me of my Fuze and makes the transition from winmo seem easier.
If I understand you correctly, the clockwork backup I did after rooting should've saved my rsa keys? I'm already starting on the manual way just to play it safe. Thanks for all the info, it's cleared up a lot of the confusion I had.
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It depends on your version of Clockworkmod, but in my opinion, doing it manually is by far the safest way.
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Well, I got my rsa key backed up manually and hopefully in the clockwork backup too. I think I'm pretty safe as far as that goes. Thanks guys.
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Well, I got my rsa key backed up manually and hopefully in the clockwork backup too. I think I'm pretty safe as far as that goes. Thanks guys.
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Great Enjoy Your Evo
So im runnin Clockwork custom recovery on my EVO and I hav read on several threads that using Amon RA is better. I would like to kno the reasons why and if I decide to change how would I go bout it? Please include any links in getting the Amon RA recovery and or procedures please...thanks!
Open Rom Manager and scroll down to select "Flash Alternate Recovery" clcik RA and thats it. Give it a whirl, you dont like it flash back to clockwork via Rom Manager (at top).
personally I use clockwork, only because it works with rom manager.....
I use amon ra, I had it on my moto cliq, then I had to use clockwork on my vibrant, now amon ra on my evo. I like it better. Its probably just personal preference but I have read that clockwork doesnt always do a good nandroid backup/restore, I never tried it though so im not certain. Like to guy above said, its real easy to switch back and forth though
Amon is easier to read, and its prettier.
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Haven't used clock in a while but from what I remember it was more steps to get to certain things and the entire UI was a bit confusing to a new person. Now this is speaking from my hero days, lol so things may have changed!
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It's preference, the general consensus that's misunderstood is that ra is better. This for me is only because my dev has nothing to do with clockwork therefore its rendered useless for me.besides updating ra recovery...
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Personally, i have and do use both, and neither is better, as they do the same thing. The 1 advantage to amon_ra is that you can select the elements of your backup, so they can be smaller, where as clockwork backs up everything by default.
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personally I use clockwork, only because it works with rom manager.....
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same here..................
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same here..................
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You can still download rom from it [if on premium version], flash alternate recovery, and boot into recovery if on amon_ra; the only thing you can't do it automatically backup the rom from there.
if i switch from clockwork to amon_ra via ROM manager, will I lose any of my information on my phone?
Nope
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Only the ability to restore your Clockwork nandroid backups with Amon Ra, and the ability to use the flashing functions of Rom Manager. Nothing on your rom will be changed.
Once you switch, go ahead and make a backup with Amon Ra. Leave the original three options checked and include wimax as well.
If you don't know how to flash manually there are tons of guides, and it's something you'd definitely benefit from learning.
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The only thing u need to lose is rom manager
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Only the ability to restore your Clockwork nandroid backups with Amon Ra, and the ability to use the flashing functions of Rom Manager. Nothing on your rom will be changed.
Once you switch, go ahead and make a backup with Amon Ra. Leave the original three options checked and include wimax as well.
If you don't know how to flash manually there are tons of guides, and it's something you'd definitely benefit from learning.
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I should also add that I had success flashing my radios and upgrading my WIMAX using Amon-RA
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S-OFF
HBOOT-6.16.1002
Radio-2.15.00.11.19
Amon Ra Build: RA-supersonic-v3.06-gnm
Not sure if I'm just not doing a correct nand backup or what, just started using Amon Ra. Everytime I restore I just go into a splash screen loop. Can't find a specific thread that answers this problem. I can just reflash original rom zip, but future nand restores would be nice to rely on. Any suggestions?
You can tell from my sig what I'm running. I have not flashed over any mods of any sort, or changed any system libs or binaries, unless implementing v6 supercharger counts as that.
You are better off upgrading to smelkus 4.3 its a more efficient ra recovery.
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You are better off upgrading to smelkus 4.3 its a more efficient ra recovery.
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I never hear the end of this, so I'm about to push the f-it button and switch over.
Only thing that prevents me from doing so is my curiosity of the Synergy rom, really wanna try that baby.
Have read the best way to flash it is through Amon Ra, what do you think?
Ah, nevermind. It's saying Amon Ra is required to flash the God Mode, which I'm not about to do. The speed looks enticing, but I really just want a stable ROM that I can theme.
Does it specifically sway you can't use Smelkus to flash it? Because Smelkus is based on Amon Ra.
BTW, that ROM is pretty old, man.
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Does it specifically sway you can't use Smelkus to flash it? Because Smelkus is based on Amon Ra.
BTW, that ROM is pretty old, man.
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My feelings exactly, it just got bumped and I noticed it. Now looking instead at Legendary Infamous... I have Sense fever, I know.
Switching over to Smelkus now.
CyanJustice said:
My feelings exactly, it just got bumped and I noticed it. Now looking instead at Legendary Infamous... I have Sense fever, I know.
Switching over to Smelkus now.
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Thata boy. You won't be disappointed.
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Certainly am not. Just flashed Infamous and then successfully restored DigitalKarma. Happy day!
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