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Well isn't this rumour fantastic news?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/rumored-htc-desire-hd-specs-surface-4-3-inch-screen-8-megapixe/
Afro Az said:
Well isn't this rumour fantastic news?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/rumored-htc-desire-hd-specs-surface-4-3-inch-screen-8-megapixe/
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October timeframe sounds about right. It doesn't sound like enough of an upgrade for me to worry about it, so I guess I'll skip that generation and wait for the next.
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Dave
damn aluminium body <3 shame about the too big screen, though it be prob possible to port some of the stuff from it to our desires
I just read that on another site and considering I just bought my Desire online yesterday (so it isn't here yet), it wasn't be best news item to read.
I didn't really want a 4.3" screen though (especially if it's pentile...), and while the aluminium body sounds great, none of the other changes are appealing enough to me to worry about.
I know it happens all the time in the tech world. But I hate the feeling I get when something newer and shinier comes out and I can't get it. Especially when its a "better" specced model of a phone I already own.
P.S I know the phone isn't out yet and is only a rumour, but don't you guys sometimes feel the same?
Think of it as the GSM, 3G-only, version of the EVO 4G that everyone has been asking for. The aluminum body addition is nice.
4.3" too big
I like this present device enough... don't need an upgrade until things improve considerably more, which I'm not expecting till March-June 2011. The only currently outstanding issue for me is memory space.
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It's not really too much of an upgrade. Better camera and in built memory. There will be better stuff to come than this for sure.
Looks like HD2 on steroids with Android. I suppose it will have LCD and if they manage to squeeze it in smaller body then HD2, but with bigger battery it would be great.
i think im gonna cry, simply better than the desire
Ah don't worry about it, it's not as if it's life and death is it.
theres always going to be something better coming out.
Get what you need, and not whats new on the streets
I was slightly underwhelmed to be honest...
Specs are great, everything is "desirable" apart from the size of the device as i personally think 4.3" screen is too big - owned the Touch HD2 but sold it for the Desire as it was too big for me, especially with a leather case
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cgrec92 said:
i think im gonna cry, simply better than the desire
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How is it better? Same processor, possibly similar RAM and most likely running Sense 2.1 or getting 2.2 at the same time as the current Desire. An aluminium body doesn't make a phone and more likely than not it will be in some sort if case anyway.
The rest of the specs are a natural evolution of things though that screen is getting close to tablet territory for me. I think the Desire is a great phone the way it is though a Hummingbird processor and PowerVR GPU would be certainly welcome.
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There's not really much in the way of specs increase though, same processor means it won't have increased performance...
More onboard storage is handy, but not as essential as it was thanks to apps2SD. A bigger screen without a resolution change doesn't really interest me, the Desire seems about the right size as it is. No interest in a slightly improved camera.
Pretty underwhelming for a 'Desire HD'.
Coming from a HD2 I am not jealous it has a bigger screen lol.. Only thing that would get me jealous was if it had 4G and a faster CPU, which it doesn't. Until then, it can have a bigger screen, 720p recording and what not, I couldn't really care less lol, we have custom roms with 720p recording anyway so that one is already irrelevant. I love my Desire so much more because it doesn't take my entire hand to use and because it just works like a phone should (Unlike HD2). Anyone who is thinking "oh crap I just got my Desire" you have an awesome phone. Enjoy it and stop worrying about new versions lol (Until a sort of EVO 4G comes out here, then ill join the club haha)
What i find to be so disappointing is that they aren't upgrading the CPU! I mean cmon HTC look at what Samsung and Motorola have coming out. Not to mention the fact that the Snapdragon's GPU is pretty poor compared to samsung/moto. The earlier rumors stated that the Ace would have a dual core @ 1.5Ghz, what happened to that?!?
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The earlier rumors stated that the Ace would have a dual core @ 1.5Ghz, what happened to that?!?
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I really can't see any benefit whatsoever in having a CPU with those sort of specs in a phone at the moment.
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Dave
I have never gone android and from the specs it is going to be a great phone. Dear members will I be disappointed if I get rid of my leo and go for it? What is the main differences between windows pc and android ? Or would you rather I wait for windows 7 I am used to. But I am greatly interested!
Not much of an answer, but I'm definitely looking at replacing my HD2/Leo with a Desire HD. It really is the phone I've been waiting for HTC to come out with.
For me its Android over anything,
The main difference is that android if very customizable and all open source, you wont be disappointed if you ditch your Leo for this phone, specs wise its amazing and now that is running new HTC sence UI. I think that you will be very happy with Android.
Any other question, feel free to PM me or anything.
I think I will be replacing my HD2 with this. Been running Android on my HD2 for a few days, and I love it. Given that the Desire HD is the same size, and better hardware than the HD2, I think it's a winner!
I as well have The HD2 with the android running and also helped 2 other peple get their HD2's setup with android. I love it over windows. The windows pretty customizable to a certain point and I do like it too but like is not the word for the android stuff. I had the G1 and it took a cyanogen beating and kept on ticking. And then I went to the HD2 and as soon as I saw roms for it Ii went to town on it but I slammed on the brakes with the froyo rom from Darkstone and Its whats running right now. So to say Im looking forward to this Desire Phone is an understatement. Im real excited WOO!
Load up Android on your HD2 and take it for a test drive. They have a bunch of choices in the HD2 forum so you can get a feel for it to see if you like it.
If wealthy, buy Desire HD.
If not so well off, try Android on HD2, if it you like it and want to pay for extra hardware on Desire HD you can wait until no longer brand new tech, and price drops a little.
If not cash rich, wait for Desire HD rom to be ported onto HD2 to replace WinMo.
All you lose is extra 3 megs on camera (not a big deal)
Extra internal memory (can do without)
Slightly faster cpu.
Movie playback quality?
The Desire HD is great but nothing special above the HD2..I mean sure it's primary Os is Android but that's all you get. The Hd2 runs Android,Wm and Ubuntu,if that's not cool enough then i dnt knw wat is. IMO the HD2 will most likely become the phone of legends, something that fathers tell their kids about wen their not busy admiring its sheer brilliance,the one that broke all the rules *And yes i'm aware of the D'HD specs,which r tempting but not worth sacrificing the Hd2*
This is just the beginning teaser for Android superphone HTC & GSM. I see the HD2, EVO & D'HD pretty much being the same phone, different shell and different OS. In that light the format is a year old.
To quote them, HTC was/is brilliantly and quietly deliberate in having the Android-GSM masses salivate from across fences they could not or would not cross. It's almost classic Apple (and believe me, I hate both Apple and admitting it).
When the HD2 released, and lets be honest, gimped with WinMo, there was a secret vault deep in the bowels of HTC with a killer phone that could pretty much end the consumer refresh cycle for 3+yrs.
Just look at the G1. One of the secret beauties of Android is that in the right circumstances, you can stretch a platform way beyond it's intended life. An Android HD2/GSM EVO would have been such a beast.
They didn't release it because it was technically not viable, lol. No. Because doing so would have been an early check mate.
Yes the competition would either have been scorched in such a scenario or, heaven forbid, cornered into a cold war where they might actually have delivered real value versus their stock and trade hype.
At the same time though, HTC would have cannibalized their entire line-up/sales inbetween. Plus there was the issue of giving an allowance for symbiosis between the hardware, the market and the Android platform to come to fruition.
Now we have the D'HD, why? Because the other OEM's, Gingerbread, dual cores and GPU's are on the horizon.
The next 3-9 months will be beautiful.
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I like the optimism and brand patriotism in that post. But unfortunately due to the amount of sheep who see the iPhone as the be-all and end-all of mobile technology, the platform if used to it's full potential still wouldn't have been able to take away a decent enough chunk of the iPhone sales.
The main reason is marketing. Apple have an army of marketing geniuses, with a bank balance to replace the ocean with. Coupled with the "elitist" angle that apple have, people have, do, and will continue to buy them because they don't know any better. If anyone saw the HTC Evo vs iPhone 4 video, you'll know what I mean - because it's the unfortunate truth.
When the HD2 came out, HTC were still relatively unheard of in the grand scheme of things. The Desire is what bought them into the open (at least in the UK anyway, despite a good marketing effort with the Hero).
The sad reality of it all, is that HTC could cram a 2GHz dual-core CPU, 3D screen, 2GB RAM, 64GB high-speed flash and a 720p display, all running on Honeycomb into a phone the size of an HD Mini, and people would still go for the Apple phone because it's Apple.
If the original iPhone was released today - I still reckon it would outsell most other smartphones in the public sector.
I still chuckle to myself when the iPhone came out without MMS, and then Apple did something revolutionary and put MMS into a software update, and the world was alight with joy and praise!
Yet I'd had MMS on my SonyEricsson T68i a clear 6 years prior!
I had HD2...i sold it 2 month ago waiting for something like Desire HD...Now I'm waiting with my dummy in a pocket
Numbers are numbers. DHD is better in CPU,GPU,ROM,RAM,Camera,Video. OS is relative...depends who likes what. I prefer Android against WM 6.5... But, i would be almost perfect if they put SLCD and Aderno 220 in him...then there would be nothing better...but word "better" is relative...
I still have my HD2 (and HD) and considered porting it to Android but in the end I opted to keep it running WM and popped for the Galaxy S.
The Galaxy S is a great phone with some beautiful features but I do miss my HTC branded phone.
At the time I considered the Desire but needed something slightly bigger and with more features and seeing as the Evo didn't come to the UK, as said instead I chose the Samsung.
Now the Desire HD is coming I've been looking close as to what it may give me over the Galaxy S.
Apart from it's slightly larger screen I can't find anything that will draw me away and that worries me.
As said, I miss HTC Hardware and Sense. The new line of Sense looks better but is it enough.........
I am currently using a HD2, and well, after 10 months of usage, WM6.5 is practically crap: Many essential softwares which are needed were not preinstalled; even messaging application was crap... Internet browser was as slow, most importantly no flash... Then here comes the Android running on SD card... But still sucks big time, although the developers really put a lot of effort in it, but the lag, freezes, and incomplete applications are all making me feel more and more disappointed... Until the 15th of September 2010, when HTC revealed both DHD and Desire Z, my hope was relighted... A proper Android OS on a 4.3" screen... This is what I needed for long... The first thing I did was to preorder it immediately without even hesitating... From here I believe many can see how much hope i gave up on HD2... The disappointment was utter... Well, now I am just counting down everyday to my DHD reaching me... 20 more days to go~
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I am currently using a HD2, and well, after 10 months of usage, WM6.5 is practically crap: Many essential softwares which are needed were not preinstalled; even messaging application was crap... Internet browser was as slow, most importantly no flash... Then here comes the Android running on SD card... But still sucks big time, although the developers really put a lot of effort in it, but the lag, freezes, and incomplete applications are all making me feel more and more disappointed... Until the 15th of September 2010, when HTC revealed both DHD and Desire Z, my hope was relighted... A proper Android OS on a 4.3" screen... This is what I needed for long... The first thing I did was to preorder it immediately without even hesitating... From here I believe many can see how much hope i gave up on HD2... The disappointment was utter... Well, now I am just counting down everyday to my DHD reaching me... 20 more days to go~
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i think the devices with dualcore that will be releasing in the next few monthes make me keep my hd2 for now , desire hd is not a big improvement to upgrade to it
Having neither the HD2 or the Desire HD and wanting a slice of the Android pie having whet my appetite with a Desire, what would you suggest?
I can get an HD2 for around £220 - £250 from eBay and run with Android courtesy of the devs, or I can fork out £470 on a native Android handset that does not seem to offer a great deal (for my use at least) over the HD2.
decisions, decisions ...
That's a toughy which only you can answer.....
Depends on how much you value some of the added benefits you can get with the dedicated Android.
I love my photography and although I have several cameras I still like to get the best out of whatever hardware is available.... That's one of the reasons I went for the Galaxy S over the Desire and now with the HD coming out.... well I'm still drawn to the Galaxy S.
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That's a toughy which only you can answer.....
Depends on how much you value some of the added benefits you can get with the dedicated Android.
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Frankly I'm not sure what I would lose by going the HD2 route?
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I love my photography and although I have several cameras I still like to get the best out of whatever hardware is available....
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Likewise but having been spoiled by Nokia I have reached the conclusion that anyone who is serious about using their phone for halfway decent shots when on the go should steer well clear of HTC!
Trouble is, the competition might have the hardware but the operating system is very dated. I want the bells and whistles Android has to offer but the hardware is lacking on this platform.
Android ported to HD2 will never be so smooth and good as Andoid on his original device. There will always be some little bugs and lags...and you'll never experience a true Android experiance... Better choose regular Desire than HD2 with Android... HD2 is made for WM
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Likewise but having been spoiled by Nokia I have reached the conclusion that anyone who is serious about using their phone for halfway decent shots when on the go should steer well clear of HTC!
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Agreed... That was one of the main reasons why I went for the Galaxy S over the Desire. The GS takes and shoots simply outstanding shots & video.
Maybe its just me but if you really want good pictures.....invest in a camera: s
The camera isn't fantastic but its decent and that's good enough the other features make up for it imo.
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Hi All,
I'm from Malaysia, here we pretty much dont have contracts, thus we are free to buy our own unlocked mobiles, albeit at retail prices.
Anyway, i've been using the hero for a year now, and am thinking of upgrading. I have narrowed it down to either a Desire, Nexus One or Samsung I9000 Galaxy.
Both the Desire and Galaxy are officially available here, but the Nexus One isn't (i'd have to go for grey imports - thus warranty becomes a problem). Leaving the nexus out, im left with the desire and galaxy, both have almost the same price, but i've been browsing the galaxy forum and it seems there are lags (with lag fixes)? Hardware wise, the galaxy is more powerful (but is it that noticeable?), but what i want is a mobile with very active and broad range of rom development, the desire wins in this case over the galaxy.
Will it be worth it and wise to get a desire now, since the desire HD is going to be released soon? I for one find the HD's screen too big for me. What i want is a phone that i would be able to use for at least a year+, and one that has active rom development (which is why i choose the hero a year back).
I've been looking at the spec sheet and the HD has only certain advantages over the Desire, namely better GPU (adreno 205 vs 200 on the desire), fab process (45nm vs 65nm for the desire) which should translate to lower power consumption but the behemoth of a display on the HD would consume more power, a better camera (8mp vs 5mp - with such small sensors, whats the difference anyways?), and slightly extra ram. Oh, and of course the screen size difference.
That being said, i'd like to know from you desire owners is it worth upgrading to a desire from a hero now? And also, whats the battery life on the stock desire?
Maybe the Desire Z is better for you?
I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).
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Maybe the Desire Z is better for you?
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Maybe i forgot to mention that i am not looking for a phone with physical qwerty keyboard. The reason behind this: It has a slider which has mechanical moving parts and is more prone to damage. I've had too many problems with flips/sliders right from the days of Motorola Startac, my last slider being a nokia n96, which flex cable gave away twice, so i kinda have a phobia towards anything but candybars .
I also want a 'best bang for buck' device, and both the desire/galaxy s are in that category. I could only imagine the retail price of the desire hd and z when they are launched here.
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I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).
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Have you tried any of the roms which undervolts the proc? To be honest, the price of an iphone 4 isnt that too far away, just slightly higher than the desire here, but then again, i just cant explain why, but i cant see myself using an iphone ever. i practically hate it..
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Have you tried any of the roms which undervolts the proc? To be honest, the price of an iphone 4 isnt that too far away, just slightly higher than the desire here, but then again, i just cant explain why, but i cant see myself using an iphone ever. i practically hate it..
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I am not suggesting that the iphone is an overall better phone... it's just that motion and scrolling are better as it uses a dedicated GPU. If i was to buy a phone i would again go for the Desire. It also costs almost half the price of the iphone.
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I am not suggesting that the iphone is an overall better phone... it's just that motion and scrolling are better as it uses a dedicated GPU. If i was to buy a phone i would again go for the Desire. It also costs almost half the price of the iphone.
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Hey dont get me wrong there! i was just voicing out my opinion on an iphone. Guess we're on the same page there.
Nothing desperately wrong with the iPhone. I own both and they are both fantastic. Why dont you try the desire, galaxy s and desire HD in store and see which one you like best?
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Nothing desperately wrong with the iPhone. I own both and they are both fantastic. Why dont you try the desire, galaxy s and desire HD in store and see which one you like best?
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Well I can try out the galaxy s n desire in store, but not the desire hd as it's still not out.. well, even I admit the iPhone can be good, it just isn't my cup of tea
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I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).
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my hero is just as fast as my desire. just a easy to see in bright sunlight if not better, battery lasts longer and built much better, the only thing it cant do as well as my desire is play games .......
Hi mate, well i didn't have a hero so i can't help you out, but i had a sony xperia x10 instead and i can safely tell you the Desire is worth every penny more. Once you calibrate the battery the desire is really awesome!
I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
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Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
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Shooters like nova or modern combat don't work properly because Desire doesn't have true multitouch screen. Aside from that, some gpu intensive games don't run smooth.
If you need your phone for games, go for the sgs, I believe user experience is much more than simple specs though and that's why I went for the desire.
I think a whole new desire or other gsm smartphone line will be released soon after the evo 3d
If you still have Desire in your hand, I say, can you wait for some time?
At least until Samsung Galaxy S2 or any other new Android phones from the next generation, those with dual cores proc, are already in the market.
I know Galaxy S or Desire HD is better than Desire but it is not really a major improvement (in my opinion).
Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Hmmm...if you aren't really in need of having a new phone, I think Desire can still serve you well until next year..but..if you can get a good price for a second hand Galaxy S or Desire HD and also if you can get a good price for your current Desire..well...it is also not a bad idea...
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What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM)
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My mate's got a Galaxy S and it does feel flimsy when held next to my Desire. It's really light in comparison and although some could argue in it's favour, personally it just doesn't feel like it has the same build quality. I'd worry if it was dropped but then that's nothing a good case wouldn't fix I suppose.
The screen isn't noticeably better in normal use but I've got an AMOLED Desire, I haven't seen an LCD to compare to.
The lack of Sense and Sense widgets is really apparent and if, like you said, you don't like non-sense Roms then it could be an issue. This is still Android though of course so with a little patience you could still customise with apps that give a similar appearance if not quite exactly the same experience.
All being said, it is a nice piece of kit and it is better in graphic intensive games. There's no denying it's value for money. It would take quite a bit more to persuade me to swap my Desire for it though.
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You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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No. I've used samsung I5700 recently, a much cheaper phone, but I have enough of samsung for a while I already can tell that I don't really like sense and will switch to CM. I hate glossy plastic . Instead of app2sd I will use link2sd with custom hboot.
I imagine if not samsung someone will port gingerbread to i9000 and if you want good MT you probably need to switch anyway
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I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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i had a sgs fascinate and i hated it. yes the gpu is better and its noticable but the touchwiz ui sucks. plus super amoled kills sucks your battery life quickly. with 3 hours screen on, youll b at 20%. plus flashing custom roms and stuff can b a chore. odin is alot more tricky to play with then your providers ruu. id suggest the desire hd or wait 4 the desire s. there r things i miss about my sgs. but im happy with my desire. sense ui cannot b beat. 10minutes with touch wiz and youll understand what i mean
The GPS chip on the SGS is utterly ****. No two ways about it and no fix for it as it's a hardware design fault. Can't be used for driving navigation as it's only accurate to about 50-100m when moving.
If nav is important to you then don't do it.
I don't know why you're having trouble with the Desire, just flash a new ROM and be done with it. If you can't be bothered, get the crappy DHD or the SGS.
Good deal? No period...
But then again I'm sure if you ask on SGS forum they'll tell you otherwise... I wouldn't change my desire for anything on the market right now...
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If the performanc eof the desire is not enough just buy a class 10 microsd card of over 8gb and you will see a big difference in operating speed with any custom roms.
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can i trade my galaxy s i9000 w/ miui 2.3.3. rc3 for your desire
debateable?
Ihave the desire and my wife has the galaxy s,i do actually like the s,but more for its screen size not hardware or os. sense is a bonus for a phone i find,but its your preference,im running insertcoin 2.0.0 a2sd at the moment,roms,really do extend your love of a phone. Though roms are out for the galaxy...
but end of the day..................MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND?
Afaik the sgs is basically a desire with a better gpu and a bit newer cpu. If you don't care too much about games you should go for the desire since it has better software, better build quality, better support and last but not least better devs here on xda
Hey all,
my Defy was stolen so I now have to find a replacement.
After looking at many devices and after comparing their specs I still believe that the Defy is a good buy. The price-performance ratio is just great! I also have to admit that I really liked my Defy and I wish nothing too good to the one who stole it.
However, as all of you know, the locked bootloader really sucks and prevents the Defy from being the legendary device it deserves to be.
Although the efforts of Quarx for bringing CM7 to the Defy are amazing and the leaked GB ROMs (DefyPlus?) ease the pain of being dependent on the goodwill of Motorola to a large extend when it comes to new Android releases, in a few month some of the known problems will arise anew.
So while I'm still a fan of the Defy, looking for alternatives with similar features (e.g. screen resolution, cam, display size) for a similar price brought me to the Ideos X5 (Huawei U8800).
Here is a comparison of both devices from GSMArena:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3514&idPhone2=3596
The U8800 seems be comparable and does not have a locked bootloader. However, compared to the awesome Defy community (you ), the community for the U8800 seems to be much smaller with only a few devs. This is the biggest downside for me.
I now like to have your opinion on this.
TIA,
cloogshizer
a lot of people bought the defy because of its toughness, if you do not consider that, u8800's advantage over defy would be its "Dolby Mobile sound enhancement" thingie, defy's speaker suck, i think u8800's aesthetics is much better than defy but i think that's just me
I've just replaced my Ideos X5 U8800 with a Defy. U8000 is pretty good, the only thing that kind of bothered me was that it was too big, it's wider and longer than Defy, not much, but noticeable when in the pocket.
They both have the same kind of processor, the U8000 was overclocked stable at 1200 MHz, same like Defy. And the dev. process is aprox. in the same stage for both, none of them have a stable Android 2.3 yet, still U8800 can record 720p, but the quality is not so good.
So, pretty much same phones, but I don't want back my U8800, mostly only because Defy is more compact.
nonsense91 said:
a lot of people bought the defy because of its toughness, if you do not consider that, u8800's advantage over defy would be its "Dolby Mobile sound enhancement" thingie, defy's speaker suck, i think u8800's aesthetics is much better than defy but i think that's just me
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Do you realy think that defy's speaker sucks? I think it outperforms many many phones.
GPU wise, u8800's adreno 205 has somewhat advantage over defy's PowerVR SGX530.
but if the 'higher' performance is not the biggest deal for you, concider buying the perfect size and robust defy again.
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Do you realy think that defy's speaker sucks? I think it outperforms many many phones.
GPU wise, u8800's adreno 205 has somewhat advantage over defy's PowerVR SGX530.
but if the 'higher' performance is not the biggest deal for you, concider buying the perfect size and robust defy again.
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yeah i do think the speaker sucks, outperforming many many phones doesn't mean it's great, it only means those many many phones also sucks
but if you remove that water filter that would be another story
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yeah i do think the speaker sucks, outperforming many many phones doesn't mean it's great, it only means those many many phones also sucks
but if you remove that water filter that would be another story
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if you mean earpiece, I definitly afgree with you. Replaced it with a K850i earpiece anyway.
U8800 appears to me a descent phone but hardware wise and quality was (Motorola being slow providing updates aside) I would pick Defy. But... You might want to hold on to your cash and save more for the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S Plus. Here is the info.
I will avoid picking a dual core CPU for now since Android is not truly optimised for it. The Samsung Galaxy S Plus offers single core 1.4 GHz. Good investment for the next version of Android. Both Defy and U8800 are not a good investment now that half of 2011 is almost over. Defy will be one year old very soon.