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Iphone 3gs vs htc desire..

The thread its all about.
I love my 3gs, mainly because its huge amount of 3d quality games, instruments, prank apps and other apps.
But the desire aint expensive and i can trade it for my iphone.
Its a real hard choice. The desire has a superb screen, but the iphone is more smooth and offers more games.
What would you do and why?
And are there already some quality 3d games for android?

About 3 months ago I bought an iPhone 3gs, mainly because of boredom.
3 days ago I received my Desire as a free upgrade.
The iPhone is a fantastic unit, but I'm bored with it already. I feel tied in. I can't mod it how I'd like to, and tbh it isn't worth the price.
The Desire has captivated me, frustrated me, but engaged me more than the iPhone did.
Ebay is about to get another iPhone for sale.

Why has the desire frustrated you?
I switched from the HD2 (nightmare) and i havent found a single thing wrong with the phone - i actually love it
in answer to your question you seem more concerned about apps rather than the actual phone so i think you should stick with your 3gs, i mean the android marketplace has many apps, but not really like pranks apps and stuff
if you want an overall all round great phone id definitely recommend the desire!

How is the graphic performance of the Desire compared to the iPhone 3GS? Because the 3GS has a dedicated graphics chip (powerVR SGX) where the Desire only has its 1Ghz Snapdragon. I'd like to play some 3D games on it aswel.

I think you'll get a biased opinion here... but I've had a couple of less zealous iPhone owners who've had a play with my phone concede that they actually quite like the Desire and they might even prefer to have one*. I've not bothered with any 3D games so I couldn't comment on that, but there seems to be plenty of games in the Market.
* Steve Jobs's flying monkeys will no doubt be on to them already.

Having moved from winmob to Android, I can honestly say the HTC Desire is simply an amazing phone. Android is such a breeze and it just works, no more lag or soft reset.
You have to remember the Android market is still very young, so it will grow in time.
The best 3D game I have been playing is 'Raging Thunder II - Lite edition', it is a racing game which you control by using the accelometer, best thing is it is free!

Technically the Snapdragon in the Desire is more powerful when it comes to 3D gaming but due to the higher res screen the performance ends up being more or less the same. At the moment the iPhone has a very slight lead in 3D performance but when FroYo is released and OpenGL2 is put out for the Desire we can see a big improvement.

Very simple, if you want a massive range of apps, that are of good quality, including good games etc, then go iPhone hands down. If you prefer to tinker with your phone, flash roms, adjust the looks etc, go android. Coming from both winmo and iphone, there are many apps I sorely miss that were on the iPhone that I can't get on the desire, BUT there are many things I can do with the desire that I had no chance of doing on the iPhone (eg. downloading rss feeds including videos and audio files from the phone). I also feel a lot better not having to rely on iTunes for transferring files etc. It was a nightmare for me when I didn't have access to MY computer, therefore I could not transfer files to it....

Apple do absolutely nothing for me, I wouldn't notice if they were not there.

I had a iphone and a hd2 both of which got listed on ebay within a few days of me receiving my desire. iPhone had more apps but bring on android 2.5 and the app emulator

cgrec92 said:
Why has the desire frustrated you?
I switched from the HD2 (nightmare) and i havent found a single thing wrong with the phone - i actually love it
in answer to your question you seem more concerned about apps rather than the actual phone so i think you should stick with your 3gs, i mean the android marketplace has many apps, but not really like pranks apps and stuff
if you want an overall all round great phone id definitely recommend the desire!
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Same here, my HD2 has just come back from HTC as a referb due to ongoing issues with the screen. All replaced and the HD2 is now fine but its on Ebay. I think the desire is totally what I wanted the HD2 to be. As for the Iphone I borrowed a mate's for a few days as I was going to get one. He told me to try it first. I loved it but got bored quick, yes its lovely to look at, IE the build quality. But it still has faults, IE still needs to be rebooted from time to time. Things such as trying to use MP3's as a ringtone, whilst its possible to convert or buy from Apple. The Android isnt a direct replacement yet, but I have a feeling Android will get there as more developers join. For me I wanted something different to what everyone else has got, the Iphone is just following the herd.

HTC Desire or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000

Hi Guys,
Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.
PROBLEM IS I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!
What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!
Thanks!
Rolphez

I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.
And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.

The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one

Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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rolphez said:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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You can always root the samsung and remove the crap
Or just use a different launcher...

In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.

The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.
Due to the 3D chip they're using.

hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive
it's also better outdoors?
i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!
btw i luvs me desire

well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire

I have almost the same predicament.
I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.
So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.
To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.
I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.
Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.
I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.
I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.
The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?
Sorry for the long post.
Dave
PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh

Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.
Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:
Starting with the Cosmetics:
1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.
2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again!
3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)
4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.
Moving on to other stuff...
5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.
6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.
7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...
8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...
9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)
10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.
11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.
12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved
Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...

btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them
just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player

For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)
I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.
I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)
I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is

I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.
It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...
I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...
A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
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I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.

dave wroe said:
...The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
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Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.
Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.

I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?!

Unless you really use the 3D chip from the Galaxy S I would go for the Desire. Samsung's phone quality is rubbish, the Galaxy is no exception.
As said the GPS is very poor, while the Desire's is very good. The processor itself isn't much better than the Desire's. And if you get even one update on the Galaxy you should be happy.
The SUPER AMOLED is a bit nicer but that's mainly because the Desire has a relatively cheap AMOLED screen. It won't help you much in direct sunlight although they claim it will.
The resolution is the same and personally I think 3,7" is a better phone size than 4".

I agree with you on that one...

One thing struck me from using the Galaxy S is the screen quality and touch responsiveness compared to the desire. The Galaxy S pisses over the desire in this department. Add the better Camera and camcorder and I was actually thinking of moving from the desire to the Galaxy. I use the phone for a lot for navigation duties so to hear that the GPS is lacking is a real shame. Is it a hardware problem or something that can be fixed by an update that it will probably not receive by the sounds of things?

Which to choose? :S

I have been with my precious HTC Desire for 6 months now & i love it!
i can't imagine something else..but tomorrow i'll have to chance to upgrade to another phone..i have been leaning towards the desire hd..but it'll be available till this friday which is soon..or should i just go get the Galaxy s tomorrow?
I know people may have asked this before but i just can't seem to choose

The Galaxy S is barely an update over the Desire if it even is one.

Take the Desire HD... they go for much more than a Galaxy S on eBay!!

Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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Reefermattness said:
Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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1) Samsung phones always shine on specifications, and disappoint on the software side.
2) Amoled on my Desire doesn't make me drool over ANY other display, including the Retina and SAMOLED. It's more than good...
3) I would also NOT call a switch to Galaxy S an upgrade, sorry Reefermattness...
My opinion: if you like your Desire, stick to it. Get a newer/better phone once you are dissatisfied with yours...

I'd also go for the Desire Hd, the Sammy has great specs but it doen't seem it's quite delivering the experience. The Desire HD seems to be working great and the new Sense is awsome (i think Sammy's UI is really ugly!!!).
Plus, when gingerberad comes around you'll have alot more chances to get it on the Desire HD (though maybe neither will get it!!)
If you like your Desire, there's no question!

Uhm, why doesn't anyone that compares Desire vs Galaxy S take into account the design and build quality of both? HTC is light years ahead, it's more compact and solid, Samsungs are always plasticy and bulky. A *HUGE* disadvantage is also the lack of optical pad on the Galaxy. Come on, why do all newer phones ditch the dpad?? It's super useful, especially when writing text and jumping across links on a web page.

Reefermattness said:
Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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And whats your point?
Desire has better ram, build materials, developer support, and Sense is actually useful. Samsung imo has only the benefit of using the screen in the sun & thats it.
Any way OP, go for the HD or Z, they are both great but slightly different than our beloved Desire.

Easy.
You Choose.
Try and get your hands on both for a few minutes. Honestly, there is no better decision then your own. Everybody has their own opinion, but only you can choose what is right for you.
Makes the whole Debate worthless IMHO
KYI

I currently have both the Desire (newly repaired) and a Samsung Galaxy S; in fact they are just sitting on the desk over there <------- see?
I have to say that it really is six and two threes, I really can't spilt them, which is something I need to do as one needs to head off on Ebay. Anyway I would say that if you are happy with the Desire then keep it and go for something completely different. Maybe even wait to see what happens with the new Nexus.
The Galaxy definitely is not enough of an upgrade over the Desire to satisfy you for a good few months. In fact I would say that my Desire is a fraction quicker on a daily basis, such as loading apps and menu transitions, even with the Galaxy lag fixed and running FroYo. We are talking fractions of a second but it is noticeable.
The screen size, colour resolution and battery is better on the SGS but the Desire is a fraction quicker and the UI is more polished. I can't say that I have come across a benefit of the multi touch and GPU over the Desire yet, but I'm in the lucky position of not needing to keep a phone long enough to worry about it.
I now just need to decide which one fits me best.

If I was you, I would wait to see what the Samsung Nexus S has to offer (when officially announced).
You never know, it might be great?
Stu

Ok thankyou guys!
I will have a good think about & see which one i'll get!
If not i'll be more then happy with my current desire!

just wait. do not get the dhd yet. wait for an announcement of the nexus s,
with google opting for samsung this year for the nexus, i expect the trend to shift too. i mean, u would definetely see REAL development in the galaxy section once the device comes out.

The only things im gona dat is the screen of the htc désiré gd is ugly the dozen is great but if your used amoled then you will beshocked at the hd atleast i was
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Those are the responses I would expect from xda, which is obviously a HTC fan based web page. I have not seen my friends desire z do anything better than the galaxy s so far. Even he wishes he got a galaxy s after side by side comparison. Sense ui does nothing but slow phones down and looks flashy. Most real developers don't even mess with sense ui, and leave it out of their roms for just that reason. Besides... you complain about Samsung software, I would assume since you guys have been at xda for a while you know its possible to CHANGE THE SOFTWARE! To each their own but I've done the side by side tests live and the desire line performs half as well as the galaxy s.
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Where as we know that Samsung are spot on with their software and support?? Not.
We could talk about the support for their previous top of the range effort the i8910 or more the lack of, the broken pre-release promises and the huge let down the owners felt (I was one of those). We could also mention the lag on the SGS due to the proprietary RFS file system.
Am I a fan of HTC? Well lets put it this way, I have owned 3 recent Samsungs and one HTC, the Desire. I also own the SGS alongside the Desire and as I said, I would find it difficult to choose between the two. Is the SGS a huge step up? No, but I would say the same to someone claiming the same about the Desire.
They are both nice handsets and do what they do well but there is no real clear winner. Good for you that you like your Galaxy but it in reality, in the real world of usage over statistics, it does not trounce the Desire and that's the truth.

I still feel like HTC Desire is the fastest phone on the market till today.

So here's the deal. I have my Desire for a long time. I got successfully cured from ORD But I still do touch it quite a lot
So my desire:
8gig class 4 sd card(I really need a bigger one, plus it's slow)
1ghz, sometimes undervolted, rarely overclocked
GPU+ drivers(I always check that the rom and kernel have them)
Oxygen HBOOT table
PlayerPro(used to have PowerAMP, until the trial expired )
Redux rom
AMOLED version(of course)
And out of my phobia that I still have a good phone I just _need_ to compare it to others. So here's a list, sorted by date... how I remember it:
Nokia N8 - nothing to say. But it performed surprisingly better then the 3GS in some parts
LG Optimus 2X Stock - Won, won everywhere but tegra games
SE x10 1.6 lazy fatass didn't update... and uses MY, MY gmail account! SO lazy! - I won so badly good, so, badly, good. Even though I thought 1.6 would beat me because it's well, 1.6, but I won, won good =)
Dell Streak 2.2 edited - oh man was that close! But in the end my skilled hands won again Plus he had that stupid ADW.Launcher(seriously guys, now I'll be rude, it's f***ing slow, just admit already, even the Regina 3D, 3D launcher is faster and actually battery saving!)
HTC Desire HD Stock - won, won, won, won, won
HTC HD7 Stock - surprisingly shocking fast! It surely beats the LG which was surprisingly... awfully slow, BUT it failed everywhere else (I expected that)
iPhone 4 Latest version no JB - I've compared with the guy a million times. I win everywhere everytime. Loser
Samsung Galaxy S Older stock - Won everywhere
iPhone 3GS that time newest OS+JB - won absolutely everywhere with a huuuge lead
Testing methodics:
No synthetic benchmarks
Just responsiveness and overall speed of OS
Few apps
Some veery intensive sites
And anything that comes in our minds the time
Discuss.
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I've tried out other phones in the shop of course. But stock and presentation thingies? I mean I won, like always, but stock plus presentational? No really can't compare. But I won for all HTC including WP7 devices. Though would like to see galaxy s II and htc sensation.

bumpi bump bumpingo

I wanna smoke what you smoke.

This is pretty funny, I must admit LOL
Honestly, with the right tweaking it way seem like your phone is the fastest there is, but in real life, if you tweak evidently better phones, they will fly WAY faster than yours.
The problem is that you're comparing optimized stock against weighed down manufacturer UIs.

And desire has the longest development threads , no other phone has such development .
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gurpreet3579 said:
And desire has the longest development threads , no other phone has such development .
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+1 and hard to see any other device coming close in the future. And the development continues.

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+1 and hard to see any other device coming close in the future. And the development continues.
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+2, not even surpassed by it's rightful successors.
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erklat said:
+2, not even surpassed by it's rightful successors.
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+3 especially with loved bootloaders
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Nitin985 said:
+3 especially with loved bootloaders
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Let's make it +4... Hands down!

Yep, development is actually a good (biggest imo) point in keeping this phone. I won't feel like it's old until my favorite devs will move to something else

I love my Desire. I love it so badly I can't quite explain it. Since the beginning the only complaints I have had is I think it's a pitty not to have a 4 inch screen (that would make this thing 99% perfect in my opinion) and also no decent video player with features like screen lock to avoid acidental pressing etc...
All in all it's a wonderful device. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's better than the iPhone 4. I'll addmit it's a great device and software and ROMs keep it fresh, but the overalll responsiveness of the Desire vs the iPhone 4.... I'd have to tip my hat to Apple, albeit by just "that" much.
I read the term GPU+ on this thread for the first time today. Would anyone elaborate on what it is and why it's better?
Also I guess Redux has this GPU+ in it. Can anyone tell me if MIUI also has this or any way to implement it into the already working ROM?

Well comparing the Desire to an iPhone is just unfair...that device has better hardware, hands down...if you wanna be fair you have to compare it to a SGS (which has the exact same cpu/gpu). Anyway, personally i'd still pick the Desire right now, if i had to choose between that and the iPhone, the main reason being that i couldn't live without the freedom that android grants me now...i'd only move to a better android phone, nothing else.
Come on guys, seriously, why would you have an iPhone? Isn't a wife more than enough?

vnvman said:
Well comparing the Desire to an iPhone is just unfair...that device has better hardware, hands down...if you wanna be fair you have to compare it to a SGS (which has the exact same cpu/gpu). Anyway, personally i'd still pick the Desire right now, if i had to choose between that and the iPhone, the main reason being that i couldn't live without the freedom that android grants me now...i'd only move to a better android phone, nothing else.
Come on guys, seriously, why would you have an iPhone? Isn't a wife more than enough?
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Lol @ wife comment. No, seriously, I wouldn't say no to an iPhone, but given the choice I'd go with Android. Apple just gives you that "just works" kind of feeling that I love. But my Desire also gives me a "98% just works" feeling plus the liberty to do what I damn well please with my expensive hardware and software. Also I found it shoking someone saying that the Optimus 2x is slower than our Desires. I had one in my hands for over an hour and I swear to God that thing is fast, fast, fast! Can't wait to see what 2012 holds for us. I plan on trading my Desire in 2012.

Optimus x2 is faster for sure, anyway looks like (at least that's what i heard) many of the current apps aren't really optimized for new dualcores: most of the time only a single core is used, unless the app is very demanding, so at least for now it's hard to feel that huge boost in everyday use...i guess it's like it used to be with some older games on the first dualcore pcs, where you had to force the program to use more cores via driver, because it was made with singlecore architecture in mind...but obviously it's just a matter of time before we get our butts kicked way harder by new gen phones

Desire is the best

The desire is the best thing I ever bought. the modding and tweaking is just great, thanks to all the great devs out there
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With such a huge development base there really is no need to buy a new phone, just change whatever you dont like on the desire and there it is
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i love my desire

I have no plans to buy a phone before the 3.1 release.

Vidkum said:
I have no plans to buy a phone before the 3.1 release.
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Thinking about buy?

For months I've been trying to upgrade. (At&t straight talk etc.) I was going to buy an old my touch 4g slide put it on straight talk but right now its hard to find. So the HTC one v is it worth it (cdma version) would I enjoy it more the I enjoyed my ov? Do you think more roms will be made? Tough decision seeing as I work at lil ceazers not making much lol. So big question is it a good phone?
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I know there's some awesome devs like jmz working in the CDMA side, but until htc releases the source it'll be slow going.
I came to the OneV from an optimus v, and i love this phone way more. Even if you look at just the hardware, it's a big step up (or at least it feels like it).
If you're planning on doing straight talk, that's GSM not CDMA. Only the virgin mobile OneV is CDMA.

Would you say its worth the upgrade then?
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I was waiting for the price to go down, but I bit the bullet based on 3 things:
1. the screen! one look at the fonts and I was in love!
2. ICE CREAM SANDWICH!
3. The development! In a span of 3 months this community/devs have done a wonderful job in showcasing the future of this phone!

I don't want to come off as too negative about this phone, as it is very beautiful and I would probably buy it again. So just be aware that this post is mostly focusing on the negatives.
While single core 1ghz isn't the fastest around, it is fast enough for an android phone. In fact I noticed no significant speed difference to my 1,5ghz dualcore Sensation. And HTC even released a 600mhz phone this year, the desire C. In my experience the utility of more CPU power in android phones maxes out at around 1 ghz. More CPU power and screen real estate just means lower battery life. And the battery life on this thing is pretty much the best you're going to find in the ICS camp. With many of the big-and-fast alternatives, if you're actually using it you're not going to take that many steps away from the charger.
That being said, at the moment I'm slightly pissed off about some aspects of this phone. That's mostly because it feels like a repackaged 2010 phone. It is very pretty with the aluminum unibody and all, compared to this even new high end devices look cheap and plasticy. But you have to like the design, because it's not the most cost-effective hardware. There are a few year-old android phones around with the same hardware, that you can get used for like 100 bucks less, and most of them come with a full list of polished ICS custom roms. With the One V you pay extra for the design and for getting ICS out of the box. And that's not even of much use if you're capable of installing a custom rom.
I bit the bullet because I was running out of other options that fit my preferences. I wanted a three-button setup, and less than 4", and pretty much all alternatives in that camp seem to have some crippling flaw, like crappy battery life or nonexistent GPS capabilities or a really mirrory screen. So far I haven't noticed any flaws on the V, except for the inexplicable button and usb-plug placement, and that the front speaker is really quiet. But most importantly, since it's a new phone, and a non-high-end device, custom rom availability is only just starting to build up. For example there is still no way to get real status bar toggles, which my first smartphone from 2009 with Cyanogen 6 could do.
In the end it comes down to whether you like the design, or whether you care about raw specs more. I'm just not as interested in counting cpu cores, so it's fine for me. Don't get me wrong, it runs perfectly smooth. But it is just 400mhz up from a Legend.
If you like the nose and the aluminum unibody, and prefer a not-too-huge phone, then go for it. But if you are looking for the most price-effective hardware, then buy something used with the same capabilities. You just have to be aware that you pay extra for the fancy design here.

When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
Hope this helps

EvanH said:
When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
Hope this helps
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Lol its not ics its sense 4.0 , and plus I don't see any lag anywhere on this other then the settings.
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It's android 4.03 under that sense ui. Find someone who has older android phone 2.3.x,even a bad one, and compare. It's true that you only feel that lag in multitasking and browsing...like pinch to zoom etc...but also scroll between screens is a big delay
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For me cm9, nonsense rom and even suprimo 4.1 made it respond faster but still not even comparable to 2.3.x devices

the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..

i guess it all comes from what phone you come from and your budget. i came from a huawei ascend (junk) i love this phone! My wife had a huawei ascend 2 (junk) and i got her on of these and she loves it. I am rooted and running a custom rom, she is rooted and running stock with no bloat. i am sure there are many phones out there that are better than this one, but for our carrier and budget, we can't beat it!

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the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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scypheroth said:
the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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hell if u think its a crappy phone then u dont deserve to be here.....love what you have!