Hi Guys,
Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.
PROBLEM IS I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!
What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!
Thanks!
Rolphez
I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.
And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.
The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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rolphez said:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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You can always root the samsung and remove the crap
Or just use a different launcher...
In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.
The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.
Due to the 3D chip they're using.
hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive
it's also better outdoors?
i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!
btw i luvs me desire
well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire
I have almost the same predicament.
I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.
So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.
To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.
I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.
Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.
I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.
I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.
The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?
Sorry for the long post.
Dave
PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh
Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.
Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:
Starting with the Cosmetics:
1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.
2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again!
3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)
4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.
Moving on to other stuff...
5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.
6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.
7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...
8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...
9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)
10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.
11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.
12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved
Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...
btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them
just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player
For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)
I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.
I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)
I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is
I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.
It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...
I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...
A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
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I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.
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...The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
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Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.
Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.
I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?!
Unless you really use the 3D chip from the Galaxy S I would go for the Desire. Samsung's phone quality is rubbish, the Galaxy is no exception.
As said the GPS is very poor, while the Desire's is very good. The processor itself isn't much better than the Desire's. And if you get even one update on the Galaxy you should be happy.
The SUPER AMOLED is a bit nicer but that's mainly because the Desire has a relatively cheap AMOLED screen. It won't help you much in direct sunlight although they claim it will.
The resolution is the same and personally I think 3,7" is a better phone size than 4".
I agree with you on that one...
One thing struck me from using the Galaxy S is the screen quality and touch responsiveness compared to the desire. The Galaxy S pisses over the desire in this department. Add the better Camera and camcorder and I was actually thinking of moving from the desire to the Galaxy. I use the phone for a lot for navigation duties so to hear that the GPS is lacking is a real shame. Is it a hardware problem or something that can be fixed by an update that it will probably not receive by the sounds of things?
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I have never gone android and from the specs it is going to be a great phone. Dear members will I be disappointed if I get rid of my leo and go for it? What is the main differences between windows pc and android ? Or would you rather I wait for windows 7 I am used to. But I am greatly interested!
Not much of an answer, but I'm definitely looking at replacing my HD2/Leo with a Desire HD. It really is the phone I've been waiting for HTC to come out with.
For me its Android over anything,
The main difference is that android if very customizable and all open source, you wont be disappointed if you ditch your Leo for this phone, specs wise its amazing and now that is running new HTC sence UI. I think that you will be very happy with Android.
Any other question, feel free to PM me or anything.
I think I will be replacing my HD2 with this. Been running Android on my HD2 for a few days, and I love it. Given that the Desire HD is the same size, and better hardware than the HD2, I think it's a winner!
I as well have The HD2 with the android running and also helped 2 other peple get their HD2's setup with android. I love it over windows. The windows pretty customizable to a certain point and I do like it too but like is not the word for the android stuff. I had the G1 and it took a cyanogen beating and kept on ticking. And then I went to the HD2 and as soon as I saw roms for it Ii went to town on it but I slammed on the brakes with the froyo rom from Darkstone and Its whats running right now. So to say Im looking forward to this Desire Phone is an understatement. Im real excited WOO!
Load up Android on your HD2 and take it for a test drive. They have a bunch of choices in the HD2 forum so you can get a feel for it to see if you like it.
If wealthy, buy Desire HD.
If not so well off, try Android on HD2, if it you like it and want to pay for extra hardware on Desire HD you can wait until no longer brand new tech, and price drops a little.
If not cash rich, wait for Desire HD rom to be ported onto HD2 to replace WinMo.
All you lose is extra 3 megs on camera (not a big deal)
Extra internal memory (can do without)
Slightly faster cpu.
Movie playback quality?
The Desire HD is great but nothing special above the HD2..I mean sure it's primary Os is Android but that's all you get. The Hd2 runs Android,Wm and Ubuntu,if that's not cool enough then i dnt knw wat is. IMO the HD2 will most likely become the phone of legends, something that fathers tell their kids about wen their not busy admiring its sheer brilliance,the one that broke all the rules *And yes i'm aware of the D'HD specs,which r tempting but not worth sacrificing the Hd2*
This is just the beginning teaser for Android superphone HTC & GSM. I see the HD2, EVO & D'HD pretty much being the same phone, different shell and different OS. In that light the format is a year old.
To quote them, HTC was/is brilliantly and quietly deliberate in having the Android-GSM masses salivate from across fences they could not or would not cross. It's almost classic Apple (and believe me, I hate both Apple and admitting it).
When the HD2 released, and lets be honest, gimped with WinMo, there was a secret vault deep in the bowels of HTC with a killer phone that could pretty much end the consumer refresh cycle for 3+yrs.
Just look at the G1. One of the secret beauties of Android is that in the right circumstances, you can stretch a platform way beyond it's intended life. An Android HD2/GSM EVO would have been such a beast.
They didn't release it because it was technically not viable, lol. No. Because doing so would have been an early check mate.
Yes the competition would either have been scorched in such a scenario or, heaven forbid, cornered into a cold war where they might actually have delivered real value versus their stock and trade hype.
At the same time though, HTC would have cannibalized their entire line-up/sales inbetween. Plus there was the issue of giving an allowance for symbiosis between the hardware, the market and the Android platform to come to fruition.
Now we have the D'HD, why? Because the other OEM's, Gingerbread, dual cores and GPU's are on the horizon.
The next 3-9 months will be beautiful.
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I like the optimism and brand patriotism in that post. But unfortunately due to the amount of sheep who see the iPhone as the be-all and end-all of mobile technology, the platform if used to it's full potential still wouldn't have been able to take away a decent enough chunk of the iPhone sales.
The main reason is marketing. Apple have an army of marketing geniuses, with a bank balance to replace the ocean with. Coupled with the "elitist" angle that apple have, people have, do, and will continue to buy them because they don't know any better. If anyone saw the HTC Evo vs iPhone 4 video, you'll know what I mean - because it's the unfortunate truth.
When the HD2 came out, HTC were still relatively unheard of in the grand scheme of things. The Desire is what bought them into the open (at least in the UK anyway, despite a good marketing effort with the Hero).
The sad reality of it all, is that HTC could cram a 2GHz dual-core CPU, 3D screen, 2GB RAM, 64GB high-speed flash and a 720p display, all running on Honeycomb into a phone the size of an HD Mini, and people would still go for the Apple phone because it's Apple.
If the original iPhone was released today - I still reckon it would outsell most other smartphones in the public sector.
I still chuckle to myself when the iPhone came out without MMS, and then Apple did something revolutionary and put MMS into a software update, and the world was alight with joy and praise!
Yet I'd had MMS on my SonyEricsson T68i a clear 6 years prior!
I had HD2...i sold it 2 month ago waiting for something like Desire HD...Now I'm waiting with my dummy in a pocket
Numbers are numbers. DHD is better in CPU,GPU,ROM,RAM,Camera,Video. OS is relative...depends who likes what. I prefer Android against WM 6.5... But, i would be almost perfect if they put SLCD and Aderno 220 in him...then there would be nothing better...but word "better" is relative...
I still have my HD2 (and HD) and considered porting it to Android but in the end I opted to keep it running WM and popped for the Galaxy S.
The Galaxy S is a great phone with some beautiful features but I do miss my HTC branded phone.
At the time I considered the Desire but needed something slightly bigger and with more features and seeing as the Evo didn't come to the UK, as said instead I chose the Samsung.
Now the Desire HD is coming I've been looking close as to what it may give me over the Galaxy S.
Apart from it's slightly larger screen I can't find anything that will draw me away and that worries me.
As said, I miss HTC Hardware and Sense. The new line of Sense looks better but is it enough.........
I am currently using a HD2, and well, after 10 months of usage, WM6.5 is practically crap: Many essential softwares which are needed were not preinstalled; even messaging application was crap... Internet browser was as slow, most importantly no flash... Then here comes the Android running on SD card... But still sucks big time, although the developers really put a lot of effort in it, but the lag, freezes, and incomplete applications are all making me feel more and more disappointed... Until the 15th of September 2010, when HTC revealed both DHD and Desire Z, my hope was relighted... A proper Android OS on a 4.3" screen... This is what I needed for long... The first thing I did was to preorder it immediately without even hesitating... From here I believe many can see how much hope i gave up on HD2... The disappointment was utter... Well, now I am just counting down everyday to my DHD reaching me... 20 more days to go~
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I am currently using a HD2, and well, after 10 months of usage, WM6.5 is practically crap: Many essential softwares which are needed were not preinstalled; even messaging application was crap... Internet browser was as slow, most importantly no flash... Then here comes the Android running on SD card... But still sucks big time, although the developers really put a lot of effort in it, but the lag, freezes, and incomplete applications are all making me feel more and more disappointed... Until the 15th of September 2010, when HTC revealed both DHD and Desire Z, my hope was relighted... A proper Android OS on a 4.3" screen... This is what I needed for long... The first thing I did was to preorder it immediately without even hesitating... From here I believe many can see how much hope i gave up on HD2... The disappointment was utter... Well, now I am just counting down everyday to my DHD reaching me... 20 more days to go~
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i think the devices with dualcore that will be releasing in the next few monthes make me keep my hd2 for now , desire hd is not a big improvement to upgrade to it
Having neither the HD2 or the Desire HD and wanting a slice of the Android pie having whet my appetite with a Desire, what would you suggest?
I can get an HD2 for around £220 - £250 from eBay and run with Android courtesy of the devs, or I can fork out £470 on a native Android handset that does not seem to offer a great deal (for my use at least) over the HD2.
decisions, decisions ...
That's a toughy which only you can answer.....
Depends on how much you value some of the added benefits you can get with the dedicated Android.
I love my photography and although I have several cameras I still like to get the best out of whatever hardware is available.... That's one of the reasons I went for the Galaxy S over the Desire and now with the HD coming out.... well I'm still drawn to the Galaxy S.
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That's a toughy which only you can answer.....
Depends on how much you value some of the added benefits you can get with the dedicated Android.
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Frankly I'm not sure what I would lose by going the HD2 route?
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I love my photography and although I have several cameras I still like to get the best out of whatever hardware is available....
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Likewise but having been spoiled by Nokia I have reached the conclusion that anyone who is serious about using their phone for halfway decent shots when on the go should steer well clear of HTC!
Trouble is, the competition might have the hardware but the operating system is very dated. I want the bells and whistles Android has to offer but the hardware is lacking on this platform.
Android ported to HD2 will never be so smooth and good as Andoid on his original device. There will always be some little bugs and lags...and you'll never experience a true Android experiance... Better choose regular Desire than HD2 with Android... HD2 is made for WM
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Likewise but having been spoiled by Nokia I have reached the conclusion that anyone who is serious about using their phone for halfway decent shots when on the go should steer well clear of HTC!
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Agreed... That was one of the main reasons why I went for the Galaxy S over the Desire. The GS takes and shoots simply outstanding shots & video.
Maybe its just me but if you really want good pictures.....invest in a camera: s
The camera isn't fantastic but its decent and that's good enough the other features make up for it imo.
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I have been with my precious HTC Desire for 6 months now & i love it!
i can't imagine something else..but tomorrow i'll have to chance to upgrade to another phone..i have been leaning towards the desire hd..but it'll be available till this friday which is soon..or should i just go get the Galaxy s tomorrow?
I know people may have asked this before but i just can't seem to choose
The Galaxy S is barely an update over the Desire if it even is one.
Take the Desire HD... they go for much more than a Galaxy S on eBay!!
Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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1) Samsung phones always shine on specifications, and disappoint on the software side.
2) Amoled on my Desire doesn't make me drool over ANY other display, including the Retina and SAMOLED. It's more than good...
3) I would also NOT call a switch to Galaxy S an upgrade, sorry Reefermattness...
My opinion: if you like your Desire, stick to it. Get a newer/better phone once you are dissatisfied with yours...
I'd also go for the Desire Hd, the Sammy has great specs but it doen't seem it's quite delivering the experience. The Desire HD seems to be working great and the new Sense is awsome (i think Sammy's UI is really ugly!!!).
Plus, when gingerberad comes around you'll have alot more chances to get it on the Desire HD (though maybe neither will get it!!)
If you like your Desire, there's no question!
Uhm, why doesn't anyone that compares Desire vs Galaxy S take into account the design and build quality of both? HTC is light years ahead, it's more compact and solid, Samsungs are always plasticy and bulky. A *HUGE* disadvantage is also the lack of optical pad on the Galaxy. Come on, why do all newer phones ditch the dpad?? It's super useful, especially when writing text and jumping across links on a web page.
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Desire HD 40 million triangles per second vs Galaxy S 90 million. Get about 20fps more in opengl2.0 benchmarks. SAMOLED blows all other screens out of the water right now including the Retina. I LOVE HTC but actually do some research before coming on XDA giving opinions about things "barely being an upgrade" when they are faster than the device referenced.
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And whats your point?
Desire has better ram, build materials, developer support, and Sense is actually useful. Samsung imo has only the benefit of using the screen in the sun & thats it.
Any way OP, go for the HD or Z, they are both great but slightly different than our beloved Desire.
Easy.
You Choose.
Try and get your hands on both for a few minutes. Honestly, there is no better decision then your own. Everybody has their own opinion, but only you can choose what is right for you.
Makes the whole Debate worthless IMHO
KYI
I currently have both the Desire (newly repaired) and a Samsung Galaxy S; in fact they are just sitting on the desk over there <------- see?
I have to say that it really is six and two threes, I really can't spilt them, which is something I need to do as one needs to head off on Ebay. Anyway I would say that if you are happy with the Desire then keep it and go for something completely different. Maybe even wait to see what happens with the new Nexus.
The Galaxy definitely is not enough of an upgrade over the Desire to satisfy you for a good few months. In fact I would say that my Desire is a fraction quicker on a daily basis, such as loading apps and menu transitions, even with the Galaxy lag fixed and running FroYo. We are talking fractions of a second but it is noticeable.
The screen size, colour resolution and battery is better on the SGS but the Desire is a fraction quicker and the UI is more polished. I can't say that I have come across a benefit of the multi touch and GPU over the Desire yet, but I'm in the lucky position of not needing to keep a phone long enough to worry about it.
I now just need to decide which one fits me best.
If I was you, I would wait to see what the Samsung Nexus S has to offer (when officially announced).
You never know, it might be great?
Stu
Ok thankyou guys!
I will have a good think about & see which one i'll get!
If not i'll be more then happy with my current desire!
just wait. do not get the dhd yet. wait for an announcement of the nexus s,
with google opting for samsung this year for the nexus, i expect the trend to shift too. i mean, u would definetely see REAL development in the galaxy section once the device comes out.
The only things im gona dat is the screen of the htc désiré gd is ugly the dozen is great but if your used amoled then you will beshocked at the hd atleast i was
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Those are the responses I would expect from xda, which is obviously a HTC fan based web page. I have not seen my friends desire z do anything better than the galaxy s so far. Even he wishes he got a galaxy s after side by side comparison. Sense ui does nothing but slow phones down and looks flashy. Most real developers don't even mess with sense ui, and leave it out of their roms for just that reason. Besides... you complain about Samsung software, I would assume since you guys have been at xda for a while you know its possible to CHANGE THE SOFTWARE! To each their own but I've done the side by side tests live and the desire line performs half as well as the galaxy s.
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Where as we know that Samsung are spot on with their software and support?? Not.
We could talk about the support for their previous top of the range effort the i8910 or more the lack of, the broken pre-release promises and the huge let down the owners felt (I was one of those). We could also mention the lag on the SGS due to the proprietary RFS file system.
Am I a fan of HTC? Well lets put it this way, I have owned 3 recent Samsungs and one HTC, the Desire. I also own the SGS alongside the Desire and as I said, I would find it difficult to choose between the two. Is the SGS a huge step up? No, but I would say the same to someone claiming the same about the Desire.
They are both nice handsets and do what they do well but there is no real clear winner. Good for you that you like your Galaxy but it in reality, in the real world of usage over statistics, it does not trounce the Desire and that's the truth.
I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
Love HTC Desire
Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
friedkimchi said:
Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
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Shooters like nova or modern combat don't work properly because Desire doesn't have true multitouch screen. Aside from that, some gpu intensive games don't run smooth.
If you need your phone for games, go for the sgs, I believe user experience is much more than simple specs though and that's why I went for the desire.
I think a whole new desire or other gsm smartphone line will be released soon after the evo 3d
If you still have Desire in your hand, I say, can you wait for some time?
At least until Samsung Galaxy S2 or any other new Android phones from the next generation, those with dual cores proc, are already in the market.
I know Galaxy S or Desire HD is better than Desire but it is not really a major improvement (in my opinion).
Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Hmmm...if you aren't really in need of having a new phone, I think Desire can still serve you well until next year..but..if you can get a good price for a second hand Galaxy S or Desire HD and also if you can get a good price for your current Desire..well...it is also not a bad idea...
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What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM)
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My mate's got a Galaxy S and it does feel flimsy when held next to my Desire. It's really light in comparison and although some could argue in it's favour, personally it just doesn't feel like it has the same build quality. I'd worry if it was dropped but then that's nothing a good case wouldn't fix I suppose.
The screen isn't noticeably better in normal use but I've got an AMOLED Desire, I haven't seen an LCD to compare to.
The lack of Sense and Sense widgets is really apparent and if, like you said, you don't like non-sense Roms then it could be an issue. This is still Android though of course so with a little patience you could still customise with apps that give a similar appearance if not quite exactly the same experience.
All being said, it is a nice piece of kit and it is better in graphic intensive games. There's no denying it's value for money. It would take quite a bit more to persuade me to swap my Desire for it though.
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You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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No. I've used samsung I5700 recently, a much cheaper phone, but I have enough of samsung for a while I already can tell that I don't really like sense and will switch to CM. I hate glossy plastic . Instead of app2sd I will use link2sd with custom hboot.
I imagine if not samsung someone will port gingerbread to i9000 and if you want good MT you probably need to switch anyway
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I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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i had a sgs fascinate and i hated it. yes the gpu is better and its noticable but the touchwiz ui sucks. plus super amoled kills sucks your battery life quickly. with 3 hours screen on, youll b at 20%. plus flashing custom roms and stuff can b a chore. odin is alot more tricky to play with then your providers ruu. id suggest the desire hd or wait 4 the desire s. there r things i miss about my sgs. but im happy with my desire. sense ui cannot b beat. 10minutes with touch wiz and youll understand what i mean
The GPS chip on the SGS is utterly ****. No two ways about it and no fix for it as it's a hardware design fault. Can't be used for driving navigation as it's only accurate to about 50-100m when moving.
If nav is important to you then don't do it.
I don't know why you're having trouble with the Desire, just flash a new ROM and be done with it. If you can't be bothered, get the crappy DHD or the SGS.
Good deal? No period...
But then again I'm sure if you ask on SGS forum they'll tell you otherwise... I wouldn't change my desire for anything on the market right now...
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If the performanc eof the desire is not enough just buy a class 10 microsd card of over 8gb and you will see a big difference in operating speed with any custom roms.
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can i trade my galaxy s i9000 w/ miui 2.3.3. rc3 for your desire
debateable?
Ihave the desire and my wife has the galaxy s,i do actually like the s,but more for its screen size not hardware or os. sense is a bonus for a phone i find,but its your preference,im running insertcoin 2.0.0 a2sd at the moment,roms,really do extend your love of a phone. Though roms are out for the galaxy...
but end of the day..................MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND?
Afaik the sgs is basically a desire with a better gpu and a bit newer cpu. If you don't care too much about games you should go for the desire since it has better software, better build quality, better support and last but not least better devs here on xda
Are you pleased with your purchase? would you buy it again? or would you choose something else of a similar spec? Samsung Galaxy Ace perhaps?
I'm not interested in up-spec'ing.. this is a potential phone for my daughter...
Cheers.
I like the Wildfire S, but the internal memory could be larger. Remember its a mid-range phone. If i could afford it i would have chosen the HTC Desire HD or similar, But it depends what you're daughter is going to use the phone for. How old is she? If under 16 does she REALLY need a smart phone? Don't think about what other ppl's kids have. Think about what she needs to use the phone for.
Hope this helps a little bit at least
Well.. She's asked for an ipod touch actually.. But my older daughter hardly uses hers now that she's got my old xperia x10..
So the idea is that she had this and used it instead of the ipod touch.. Games, apps, music video etc..
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I actually considered the Samsung Galaxy Ace, before the HTC Wildfire S, as it had a very iPhone 4-esque look about it, however I don't like the TouchWiz interface that Samsung have put onto their Android phones.
Main reason I went to HTC in the end was the fact I was coming from a very trusty and reliable HTC Hero, and the fact I managed to get a much better bargain bundle (phone + 32Gb Micro SD memory card + case) with the HTC in my local Vodafone store, than if I went with Samsung.
The fact I can't S-Off the Wildfire S yet hasn't deterred me, I will patiently wait for a solution.
Simple fact is I have fallen in love with the simple but efficient HTC Sense.
I got mine free from HTC but if I had the choice I would have got the galaxy ace. Reason being is that HTC has the worst customer support I have ever dealt with. 2 times my Wildfire broke. And twice they failed to fix it. On the 3rd they lost my phone for 5 weeks and finally sent me a new phone.
I would have bought a secondhand Desire Z, which was cheaper than the Wildfire S, if it wasn't so unreliable. I chose this just because of my low budget.
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I bought one and tried it as i'm quite a fan of smaller phones... I couldn't get over the screen quality though. I know it's an improvement over the old wildfire, but the quality of the screen was no where near as good as my optimus one. It has weird mesh effect to it, and scrolling through the menus caused the text to go very fuzzy.
I've ended up going for a Desire S... Which luckily only cost me £230 from ebay brand new...
So.... no one is actually REALLY happy with their Wildfire S???
Correct ... mine's a compromise, I just couldn't stand using an iphone any longer and nothing on earth would make me choose a Nokia.
I am quiet happy with my WFS - i keep switching phones and i get new phones quiet often, use them for a short while and then get a new one - HTC in my own personal experience has a better service quality compared to Samsung etc - i thought about getting the ace but decided to go with WFS because it's HTC and also because its small and well it takes care of whatever i want from a phone for now -
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Correct ... mine's a compromise, I just couldn't stand using an iphone any longer and nothing on earth would make me choose a Nokia.
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Same, got mine for 30€, but trading it for a wp7phone in a few months. It freezes, screen resolution is pretty bad (fishnet effect), and internal memory is really low.
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for the price, it is best choice. good quality, best finish, good look, and so on! But there are some glitch as well.
As I know the low available internal memory (forget about 512MB that HTC announced) and weak CPU (this is main disadvantage in my mind) are the most annoying facts about this phone.
If you have a pocket full of money go for a better one, Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S and more better choices
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wish I had gone with SGA just cuz it has a better dev scene.
Hopefully HTC will unlock the bootloader and the Wildfire S dev scene will grow.
I think, yes. It was the perfect choice.
There are two more phones in this range. Galaxy Ace and Motorola Defy (about 20$ more).
I think if you're buying a phone for your daughter who doesn't need much of the UI part then get Galaxy Ace. It has bigger screen. I didn't buy Ace because I just couldn't stand the ****ty TouchWiz interface. Plus, Samsung has better customer service.
But the ace doesn't have a locked bootloader so touchwiz can be removed. Also you could just install a new launcher.
I really like the WF S. Had the WF before and a DIamond before that.
For me it is more than about money about SIZE. And in this respect, the WF is the best I could find. The X10 is smaller but I like using the WF much more.
Sure it is not the fastest but works perfect for my needs.
With S-OFF, Launcher Pro and uninstalling all htc crap it is really fast and 105 grams only!
Besides the small amount of internal memory i'm completely satisfied with my WFS.
I can do everything I want with it (more than I expected when i bought it).
The main reason I went for this model is its size and I only wanted to be able to check mail, use whatsapp and call and text...
So far I've been able to install basically everything I wanted and I even managed to have crystal clear skype calls when i'm on the go on 3G. By now I've got about 28MB left in the internal memory.
Eventhough it's s-on and I can't really change anything i'm really happy with the phone, now i'm just silently hoping for htc to release the bootloader.
This is a small overview of the apps/stuff i've got installed:
AD.nl (dutch newspaper app)
aLogcat
Andropas (Finish Public Transport app)
Angrybirds
Angrybirds Seasons
Angrybirds Rio
Google Authenticator
Barcode Scanner
Beautiful Widgets
Beweather
Callerinfo
Dropbox
Dropsync
Easy Scorecard Pro
ES File Explorer
Extended Controls
Foursquare
GeenStijl (Dutch Blogg app)
Home Switcher
KLM app
Launcher Pro +
mClock
Memory Trainer
Minimalistic Text
Missed It
Secure Settings
SiMi Folder
Skype
Swype
Tasker
TuneIn Radio
Whatsapp
Widget Locker
All I can say is that it would be better than an ipod touch imho.. just watch out for data costs
I am completely happy with my WFS. The materials used in its construction are way better compared to Sammy Ace. Also the HTC customer service is better than Samsung(had a old Samsung cell before this) so speaking from experience. Next the on-screen keyboard from HTC is topclass compared to the keyboards from other manufacturer's. Sense is the best UI in terms of overall usability. The cam is also quite good and leagues ahead of Ace.
Overall WFS has no competition from Ace in my view and your daughter would be really happy with it too.
Sammy Ace, lol. it's Samgsung Ace.
Don't know why ROM makers doesn't make for wildfire s. anyway I'm building a new one, hope it works.
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I am completely happy with my WFS. The materials used in its construction are way better compared to Sammy Ace. Also the HTC customer service is better than Samsung(had a old Samsung cell before this) so speaking from experience. Next the on-screen keyboard from HTC is topclass compared to the keyboards from other manufacturer's. Sense is the best UI in terms of overall usability. The cam is also quite good and leagues ahead of Ace.
Overall WFS has no competition from Ace in my view and your daughter would be really happy with it too.
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HTC customer service is abysmal. Worst I have ever dealt with. Failed to fix my original wildfire twice. Then lost it for a month. Ended up getting a new original wildfire and a wildfire S.
So it seems eveyoone hhas mixed reviews on the phone. Some people love it others dont. Can people but a few scentence review and there biggest problem. Most problems ive seen have been software.
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For me, I'm really disappointed with the plastic body of the phone. It makes the phone looks like a toy when holding in hand despite being the flagship phone.
I don't care how strong the polycarbonate body is, even holding S2 feel better in the hand.
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For me, I'm really disappointed with the plastic body of the phone. It makes the phone looks like a toy when holding in hand despite being the flagship phone.
I don't care how strong the polycarbonate body is, even holding S2 feel better in the hand.
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In my opinion, the One X looks much better built than the S2. The polycarbonate does not look cheap and plasticky.
If you can wait a month, the Galaxy S III will probably be announced, and the other competing phones like the Optimus 4x will start popping up. Really, this is the first quad-core phone and it is displaying all the telltale qualities of a 1.0 phone, despite HTC's supposed commitment to quality over quantity. This is also their first unibody polycarbonate phone, so two firsts is a really big gamble for a phone buyer. The first dual-core phone last year was the Optimus 2x. Tons of issues and even a class action lawsuit. Even if this is the one you plan to buy no matter what, I would still give it a month to iron out software kinks and hardware manufacturing issues, and then buy a later version of it.
Would be better to see what the competition comes out with and then making a decision. Also gives time for the price to drop.
To buy, or not to buy, that is the question.
I will probably wait till Galaxy S III gets released (22 may) and then decide.
The fact is that whatever phone you buy, a better one will be released soon enough afterwards that you'll wonder if you should have waited - but if you play that game, you end up waiting forever. Which is why I don't have a tablet yet.
With the One X, to some extent I think it depends on how much you like HTC Sense. The SGS3 might well have better specs, but I like Sense, so I wanted to stick with HTC.
I've only had it 2 days, so it's difficult to give a detailed opinion. But I like the feel of the phone, external build quality seems good, the screen is fantastic, and Sense 4.0 is a major improvement over previous versions. My only concern is the lack of a microSD card, but in all honesty I rarely filled up the 32GB card I had in my DHD, so I'm hoping that won't be an issue. The only issues I've seen so far are all software, and updates will come.
I haven't unlocked and rooted yet, as I have a 14 day cooling off period to see if I'll keep it or not. But early signs are that I will.
I do like sense a lot it complements android for me. Are mist issues softwaree or hardware
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Nitin985 said:
I do like sense a lot it complements android for me. Are mist issues softwaree or hardware
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Software for me.
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One x is great phone, the display is just amazing
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Should screen flickering and lag stop me from buying?
My 2 year-old Desire has almost had its time, since it started randomly corrupting my card over the last couple of months so I've been looking for a new phone. The moment I saw the One X, I knew this phone was for me - big screen, a a truckload of cores, ICS w/ hardware buttons, too-large internal storage, awesome camera. Under no circumstances am I buying a Samsung or LG phone, so waiting for the competition is off my to-do list and I love and have always loved (even much more since ICS came around) HTC Sense, so here goes the other major complaint I've seen. To be honest, I don't care if video recording doesn't look pristine - I'll probably never use it anyway.
My only concern is about a couple of problems I've read about on this forum - screen flickering and scrolling lag. I know there are also some apps missing from the X's play store, but I'm almost certain they'll be back with Tegra 3 - optimized versions very soon, along with many other interesting new one. So the question is as follows: Are these 2 problems big enough to hold me back until the next device I like (which may well be the next high-end HTC)? What would you do? Thanks!
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Software for me.
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Intresting my friend
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