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HTC Desire or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000

Hi Guys,
Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.
PROBLEM IS I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!
What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!
Thanks!
Rolphez

I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.
And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.

The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one

Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

rolphez said:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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You can always root the samsung and remove the crap
Or just use a different launcher...

In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.

The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.
Due to the 3D chip they're using.

hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive
it's also better outdoors?
i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!
btw i luvs me desire

well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire

I have almost the same predicament.
I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.
So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.
To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.
I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.
Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.
I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.
I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.
The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?
Sorry for the long post.
Dave
PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh

Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.
Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:
Starting with the Cosmetics:
1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.
2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again!
3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)
4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.
Moving on to other stuff...
5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.
6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.
7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...
8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...
9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)
10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.
11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.
12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved
Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...

btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them
just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player

For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)
I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.
I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)
I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is

I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.
It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...
I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...
A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.

dave wroe said:
...The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
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Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.
Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.

I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?!

Unless you really use the 3D chip from the Galaxy S I would go for the Desire. Samsung's phone quality is rubbish, the Galaxy is no exception.
As said the GPS is very poor, while the Desire's is very good. The processor itself isn't much better than the Desire's. And if you get even one update on the Galaxy you should be happy.
The SUPER AMOLED is a bit nicer but that's mainly because the Desire has a relatively cheap AMOLED screen. It won't help you much in direct sunlight although they claim it will.
The resolution is the same and personally I think 3,7" is a better phone size than 4".

I agree with you on that one...

One thing struck me from using the Galaxy S is the screen quality and touch responsiveness compared to the desire. The Galaxy S pisses over the desire in this department. Add the better Camera and camcorder and I was actually thinking of moving from the desire to the Galaxy. I use the phone for a lot for navigation duties so to hear that the GPS is lacking is a real shame. Is it a hardware problem or something that can be fixed by an update that it will probably not receive by the sounds of things?

HTC Desire vs Samsung Galaxy S

I have the HTC Desire and have ben using it since the past 3 months .. But seeing and experiencing the samsung galaxy S and its super amoled screen with gorilla glass and the bigger 4.3 inch screen tend for me to exchange it .
I don't know what to do .. Any help if I should or no ?
Thanks ..
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It remains a personal choice but if you are doubting between the two why not choose the nexus s, it does seem to have a flash (one of the big minuses of the galaxy s for me)

After being familair with both devices, I'd opt for the Galqaxy S. It's build quality is inferior compared to the Desire (although you do get over that quite quickly), but with ample internal memory, it heavily overshadows the desire.

I originally got Galaxy S phone. and now have a desire.
let me tell you this. if you use your GPS avoid galaxy S. the GPS doesn't work. it might be able to lock on your location when you are standing still after a few minutes. but start driving around and all of the sudden you are jumping from street to street.
also. Galaxy S doesn't have anything near the size of the dev community that desire has. it all might change since its very close to nexus s. but at the time there were no AOSP roms for it available so you were stuck with roms based on samsung's original rom.
I pretty much like every aspect of the desire better than the galaxy phone except the screen. even then desire has a pretty nice screen on its own.

what about the front face cam for video calls??

i find the galaxy s an awful looking and feeling phone may have more space & bigger screen, but i wouldn't swap my desire for it.

They are essentially the same phone so it comes down to the quality of the hardware and the desire wins by a clear mile. Desire for me.

Additionally The Samsung customizations are absolutely terrible ... They just destroyed android... I have tried one and for instance the Samsung application that replaced "people" is much much worst than the desire one...

If you plan to go on a lot of 3D games like the gameloft ones the galaxy s much better. Also the super AMOLED screen is probably one of the best out there.

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ste1164 said:
If you plan to go on a lot of 3D games like the gameloft ones the galaxy s much better. Also the super AMOLED screen is probably one of the best out there.
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yes humming bird is better for graphics than snapdragon as snap dragon is over a year old now while humming bird is 6months old

rafi300 said:
I have the HTC Desire and have ben using it since the past 3 months .. But seeing and experiencing the samsung galaxy S and its super amoled screen with gorilla glass and the bigger 4.3 inch screen tend for me to exchange it .
I don't know what to do .. Any help if I should or no ?
Thanks ..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Imho the devs working on galaxy s roms are not as good as the ones we have involved here. Also the gorilla glass is a lie: it gets scratched anyway, check youtube yourself if you want. Sure galaxy s works better for games, but it needs a lag fix or it will become really sluggish...on top of that samsung is really bad in terms of user assistance and rom updates. I trust htc way way more and i don't care too much about games, hence why i picked the desire. My 2 cents...

sterothery said:
i find the galaxy s an awful looking and feeling phone may have more space & bigger screen, but i wouldn't swap my desire for it.
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+1.
Samsung has better battery though, but Desire is clearly a better device. And between 8GB of internal storage and SD slot I would opt for SD.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Samsung TouchWiz looks fairly ropey to me - HTC Sense is nicer.
Samsung GPU is better than the Desire's - Samsung if you want to play heavy games.
Samsung's casing is lighter but plastic compared to Desire's nicer, but slightly heavier finish.
Two users that I know with a Galaxy S said they _needed_ the lagfixes on it - while four users of desire haven't needed anything of the sort.
I think the battery life is neither or nor there - my phone lasts about two days between charges - so does the galaxy S from what I've heard - think it depends how you use it.
I'm sticking with my Desire

feel like putting in my 2 cents as well.
Love the look and feel of the desire,galaxy just felt budget.
I wont ever buy a phone that doesnt have an sd slot (sorry apple)
Choosing between screens is a bit nit picky isnt it...can you really tell that the desire has less pixels or a less sharper image? come on get your microscopes out.
After i got my desire i tested it next to a galaxy in the store and pic quality was better on desire, also speed was better.
I think i have a thing for sense it works for me.
For someone who was previously a samsung fan for my last 7 phones (after nokia went to that rubbish symbian thing) i have to say desire hands down

Desire or desire hd, the hd has similar graphics to the Sgs and a better CPU
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I want to add something here.
Galaxy S is not something you want to compare with the normal Desire.
Galaxy S belongs to a younger generation which is obvious better, Desire is also much cheaper than Galaxy S.
If you want to compare than compare Desire HD and Galaxy S.
I prefer to have a Desire HD instead of Galaxy S.
Reasons: Sense HD is way more beautiful than TouchWiz. trust me on this one. I have flashed the ported Touchwiz on DeFrost...pheeeewwwww...I wanna puke seing the Touchwiz UI...but this is only my personal taste tho'

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If you want to compare than compare Desire HD and Galaxy S.
I prefer to have a Desire HD instead of Galaxy S.
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Of course you're right, but this isn't the topic...
To add something, do you think the hardware of the Desire will last 1 year and half or more ? I wish it would not become obsolete...

LocoMan57 said:
Of course you're right, but this isn't the topic...
To add something, do you think the hardware of the Desire will last 1 year and half or more ? I wish it would not become obsolete...
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It is very difficult to say...if you pay attention to the smartphone development this year, you can see that the technology advances mega rapidly.
There is already news about the existence of dual-cored smartphones somewhere next year.
I think, even Galaxy S and Desire HD will be strongly out-of-date if the news are true, not to mention the normal Desire which is already older.
The question of the term obsolete is therefore going back to you, how often do you want to get a new cellphone, how much are you willing to pay for it and what are you going to do with the phone.,
For me, I am planning only to use my normal Desire (bought 2 months ago) until the dual-cored smarties are available on the market. I will consider that my Desire is obsolete at that time.

I appreciate all you're opinions ..
I have researched alot into the galaxy S and desire is for sure better built quality .. But the samoled and hummingbird with the gpu inside tells me to gt galaxy S .. But than the ppl say lag and gps stuff .
I m all for rooting and modifying my phone to the fullest with developer refined roms .. Would the darkys rom and newer voodoo kernels fix all this problem of stock gps and lag problem ?
I m also more leaned towards galaxy due to the fact that Googles newest Nexus S is v similar in hardware to the galaxy S .. So there will b a big spike in development in upcoming months is what I think ?
I may be wrong ..
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Trading Desire for Galaxy S - good deal?

I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?

Love HTC Desire
Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.

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Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
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Shooters like nova or modern combat don't work properly because Desire doesn't have true multitouch screen. Aside from that, some gpu intensive games don't run smooth.

If you need your phone for games, go for the sgs, I believe user experience is much more than simple specs though and that's why I went for the desire.
I think a whole new desire or other gsm smartphone line will be released soon after the evo 3d

If you still have Desire in your hand, I say, can you wait for some time?
At least until Samsung Galaxy S2 or any other new Android phones from the next generation, those with dual cores proc, are already in the market.
I know Galaxy S or Desire HD is better than Desire but it is not really a major improvement (in my opinion).

Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.

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Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Hmmm...if you aren't really in need of having a new phone, I think Desire can still serve you well until next year..but..if you can get a good price for a second hand Galaxy S or Desire HD and also if you can get a good price for your current Desire..well...it is also not a bad idea...

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What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM)
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My mate's got a Galaxy S and it does feel flimsy when held next to my Desire. It's really light in comparison and although some could argue in it's favour, personally it just doesn't feel like it has the same build quality. I'd worry if it was dropped but then that's nothing a good case wouldn't fix I suppose.
The screen isn't noticeably better in normal use but I've got an AMOLED Desire, I haven't seen an LCD to compare to.
The lack of Sense and Sense widgets is really apparent and if, like you said, you don't like non-sense Roms then it could be an issue. This is still Android though of course so with a little patience you could still customise with apps that give a similar appearance if not quite exactly the same experience.
All being said, it is a nice piece of kit and it is better in graphic intensive games. There's no denying it's value for money. It would take quite a bit more to persuade me to swap my Desire for it though.

lvnatic said:
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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No. I've used samsung I5700 recently, a much cheaper phone, but I have enough of samsung for a while I already can tell that I don't really like sense and will switch to CM. I hate glossy plastic . Instead of app2sd I will use link2sd with custom hboot.
I imagine if not samsung someone will port gingerbread to i9000 and if you want good MT you probably need to switch anyway

lvnatic said:
I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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i had a sgs fascinate and i hated it. yes the gpu is better and its noticable but the touchwiz ui sucks. plus super amoled kills sucks your battery life quickly. with 3 hours screen on, youll b at 20%. plus flashing custom roms and stuff can b a chore. odin is alot more tricky to play with then your providers ruu. id suggest the desire hd or wait 4 the desire s. there r things i miss about my sgs. but im happy with my desire. sense ui cannot b beat. 10minutes with touch wiz and youll understand what i mean

The GPS chip on the SGS is utterly ****. No two ways about it and no fix for it as it's a hardware design fault. Can't be used for driving navigation as it's only accurate to about 50-100m when moving.
If nav is important to you then don't do it.

I don't know why you're having trouble with the Desire, just flash a new ROM and be done with it. If you can't be bothered, get the crappy DHD or the SGS.

Good deal? No period...
But then again I'm sure if you ask on SGS forum they'll tell you otherwise... I wouldn't change my desire for anything on the market right now...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

If the performanc eof the desire is not enough just buy a class 10 microsd card of over 8gb and you will see a big difference in operating speed with any custom roms.

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can i trade my galaxy s i9000 w/ miui 2.3.3. rc3 for your desire

debateable?
Ihave the desire and my wife has the galaxy s,i do actually like the s,but more for its screen size not hardware or os. sense is a bonus for a phone i find,but its your preference,im running insertcoin 2.0.0 a2sd at the moment,roms,really do extend your love of a phone. Though roms are out for the galaxy...
but end of the day..................MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND?

Afaik the sgs is basically a desire with a better gpu and a bit newer cpu. If you don't care too much about games you should go for the desire since it has better software, better build quality, better support and last but not least better devs here on xda

[Q] Time to upgrade........

OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm looking for views from existing HOX users here. Do you love the HOX? Hate it? What do you like most about it, and what drives you potty?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Rob

I would have to say take HOX its a awesome device that will last u for 2 years or more
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Best advice is to go into a store and try out each phone (s3 excluded because not released), and see what you think.
Personally, hox is a damn good phone, but I tend to Get a hint of jealousy when I see my dad's Note haha. Don't know why, hox is faster and smoother with a quicker cam, but the notes screen is nice haha.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Thanks guys.
Kyle - I did just that today, and like them both (to a point).
The HTC just seems too safe, coming from the DHD (and 4 HTC's before it). Maybe I need something a bit different?
The Note, well it's certainly different, but its a Samsung. Samsung made my washing machine, and I've just had to have that repaired. To my knowledge HTC never made a washer.
Aaaarghh - this is agony!

Well the note was well too big for me and instore the One X did seem rather big against my Desire..
but now when I hold my Htc One X and then hold my desire aswell, my desire seems so outdated and cramped I could never go back...
It seems quite durable as well the One X... Not that I throw it around but its really good quality and not glass, so I'm not worried about it so much..

I came from a DHD (awesome device btw) an am pretty happy with the HOX. Screen is better, brighter, more ppi, and compared to the competition, LCD is far better. CPU is amazing, you can run your tablet tegra zone games on your phone too. Battery is definately an improvement, the camera also (which is not surprizing knowing the battery and camera of the DHD). The phone feels a bit light though
Anyway, get what you like most and never forget that Samsung doesn't make just washing machines. Their vacuum cleaner business is doing pretty well too.
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Hello everybody,
I have both a HOX and a galaxy note from work.
Note's battery isn't as good, bit it's true that the screen's size is bluffing.
I wouldn't really buy the note for personal use cause it's too big and you don't have enough battery to be able to mess around with it for the whole day .
Camera is better that htc, smarter, focus with flash, nice macre etc.
It's a really good phone, but for professional use in my opinion.
One X's design is beautiful as is the screen quality. Very fast, smooth and I wouldn't trade Sense for the world.
Hope it helps.
Edit: btw I also upgraded from a DHD and the first thing that bluffed me was the weight and design
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I had a DHD for 18 months, then I bought a Note. Returned it a week later, bought a HOX. Loved it, it's like keeping your DHD but upgrading everything about it.

Thanks everyone. Still teetering on the brink...... Hox... Note..... Note..... Hox......

Are you a thumbtyper? Forget the Note if you are, thumbtyping in horizontal view is actually sore after a while, the menu & home buttons are in an uncomfortable position.
Also, the Note camera is not in the same league as the X. The X has an amazing camera, the Note is just good.
Touchwiz (Samsung's interface) is also not in the same league as Sense, it feels clunky and unimaginative in comparison.
If you buy from Amazon, you can return a phone within 7 days (I did this) so maybe you should try there.
The only benefit the Note has over the X is the larger screen, but i don't think it's worth it for all the cons (compared with X)

HOX.... HOX.... HOX.... New things have expectation a lot than it fails(s3).
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Interestingly, I would also have termed myself a HTC fanboy up until the One X and S were launched. I just find them a tad uninspiring.
Thanks for the tip on the 7 day return. On this basis I've decided (with a feeling of I'm cheating on a loved one) to get a Note online, then I can return it under distance selling laws if I find it unbearable to live with.
Genuinely, many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Your insight has been much appreciated.
Rob

Cool. If you decide to keep the Note, give me a PM, i have some screen protectors you can have for the price of postage.
Oh and the 7 day return is actually 14 or 30 days, i'm not sure, and remember to keep the original packaging :thumbup:

I came from DHD too!
The jump was... WAHOA!!!
The differences are incredible. I really really love this One!
HOX is almost half the weight of DHD and at least twice faster! And Sense 4.0+ICS is really cool combo (IMO).
Only 2 downsides:
- at first it couldn't keep my provider signal and it was stucked in roaming (fixed changing the favorite settings in the Mobile net settings);
- with normal usage the battery is good, but if you start using it for games or videos it drains really fast (but not as fast as DHD's, and there's pleny of battery fixing posts around here)

Thinking about buy?

For months I've been trying to upgrade. (At&t straight talk etc.) I was going to buy an old my touch 4g slide put it on straight talk but right now its hard to find. So the HTC one v is it worth it (cdma version) would I enjoy it more the I enjoyed my ov? Do you think more roms will be made? Tough decision seeing as I work at lil ceazers not making much lol. So big question is it a good phone?
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I know there's some awesome devs like jmz working in the CDMA side, but until htc releases the source it'll be slow going.
I came to the OneV from an optimus v, and i love this phone way more. Even if you look at just the hardware, it's a big step up (or at least it feels like it).
If you're planning on doing straight talk, that's GSM not CDMA. Only the virgin mobile OneV is CDMA.

Would you say its worth the upgrade then?
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I was waiting for the price to go down, but I bit the bullet based on 3 things:
1. the screen! one look at the fonts and I was in love!
2. ICE CREAM SANDWICH!
3. The development! In a span of 3 months this community/devs have done a wonderful job in showcasing the future of this phone!

I don't want to come off as too negative about this phone, as it is very beautiful and I would probably buy it again. So just be aware that this post is mostly focusing on the negatives.
While single core 1ghz isn't the fastest around, it is fast enough for an android phone. In fact I noticed no significant speed difference to my 1,5ghz dualcore Sensation. And HTC even released a 600mhz phone this year, the desire C. In my experience the utility of more CPU power in android phones maxes out at around 1 ghz. More CPU power and screen real estate just means lower battery life. And the battery life on this thing is pretty much the best you're going to find in the ICS camp. With many of the big-and-fast alternatives, if you're actually using it you're not going to take that many steps away from the charger.
That being said, at the moment I'm slightly pissed off about some aspects of this phone. That's mostly because it feels like a repackaged 2010 phone. It is very pretty with the aluminum unibody and all, compared to this even new high end devices look cheap and plasticy. But you have to like the design, because it's not the most cost-effective hardware. There are a few year-old android phones around with the same hardware, that you can get used for like 100 bucks less, and most of them come with a full list of polished ICS custom roms. With the One V you pay extra for the design and for getting ICS out of the box. And that's not even of much use if you're capable of installing a custom rom.
I bit the bullet because I was running out of other options that fit my preferences. I wanted a three-button setup, and less than 4", and pretty much all alternatives in that camp seem to have some crippling flaw, like crappy battery life or nonexistent GPS capabilities or a really mirrory screen. So far I haven't noticed any flaws on the V, except for the inexplicable button and usb-plug placement, and that the front speaker is really quiet. But most importantly, since it's a new phone, and a non-high-end device, custom rom availability is only just starting to build up. For example there is still no way to get real status bar toggles, which my first smartphone from 2009 with Cyanogen 6 could do.
In the end it comes down to whether you like the design, or whether you care about raw specs more. I'm just not as interested in counting cpu cores, so it's fine for me. Don't get me wrong, it runs perfectly smooth. But it is just 400mhz up from a Legend.
If you like the nose and the aluminum unibody, and prefer a not-too-huge phone, then go for it. But if you are looking for the most price-effective hardware, then buy something used with the same capabilities. You just have to be aware that you pay extra for the fancy design here.

When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
Hope this helps

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When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
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Lol its not ics its sense 4.0 , and plus I don't see any lag anywhere on this other then the settings.
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It's android 4.03 under that sense ui. Find someone who has older android phone 2.3.x,even a bad one, and compare. It's true that you only feel that lag in multitasking and browsing...like pinch to zoom etc...but also scroll between screens is a big delay
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For me cm9, nonsense rom and even suprimo 4.1 made it respond faster but still not even comparable to 2.3.x devices

the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..

i guess it all comes from what phone you come from and your budget. i came from a huawei ascend (junk) i love this phone! My wife had a huawei ascend 2 (junk) and i got her on of these and she loves it. I am rooted and running a custom rom, she is rooted and running stock with no bloat. i am sure there are many phones out there that are better than this one, but for our carrier and budget, we can't beat it!

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the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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hell if u think its a crappy phone then u dont deserve to be here.....love what you have!