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[COMP]desire or x10?

ok, iv'e got some decidingto do
though my work, I can get an x10 for half the price, special deal we got now.
originally im waiting for desire, but these are the factors:
x10 pros:
half price
aviliable two weeks before desire
bigger screen
better camera
x10 cons
Sony Ericsson have less experience with developing phones with android
android 1.6 (for now anyway)
desire pros
made by htc, better experience developing android phones
android 2.1
a bit sexier
desire cons
have to pay full price
have to wait a bit longer for it
i kinda feel that i want desire, what would you guys do, and why?

I feel the X10 is sexier but TOO big
Waiting more for Desire? Not really
It will be out next week in some countries and by 6 April in all countries, X10 will come out in that same period too
The desire will be way cheaper than X10
x10 = 550 Euros
Desire = 420 Euros

arxx said:
ok, iv'e got some decidingto do
though my work, I can get an x10 for half the price, special deal we got now.
originally im waiting for desire, but these are the factors:
x10 pros:
half price
aviliable two weeks before desire
bigger screen
better camera
x10 cons
Sony Ericsson have less experience with developing phones with android
android 1.6 (for now anyway)
desire pros
made by htc, better experience developing android phones
android 2.1
a bit sexier
desire cons
have to pay full price
have to wait a bit longer for it
i kinda feel that i want desire, what would you guys do, and why?
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if you are ok with paying the full price (money wise) I suggest that you get the desire, HTC have more experience in making android devices .. and the HTC Sense interface is as efficient as it is pretty
but you know, i dont believe someone here in the "Desire section" will recommend you to get the X10 anyways so i suggest you go read reviews (or hands-on) about both as much as you can and then decide what to get

the desire has also the brilliant amoled-screen and the x10 just lcd-panel.
i would prefer the desire.

X10:
-More expensive
-Too big for pocket (Desire is just ok thanks to 11.9mm)
-Screen actually limited to 65k because of OS 1.6
-OS 2.1 will be available ''somewhere'' between June and October
-Much less ROM devs
-Price depreciation is pretty fast
+ SE build quality (I am a 10y old SE fanboy)
+ Multimedia (better camera and sound)
The only thing that I wouldn't like with Desire is the camera that could have been 8mp, but for all the rest it's a winner

I wouldn't get a SonyEricsson smartphone ever again. Essentially they buy some of the features from HTC and then try to create their own "features" on top of it. Problem ist: SE features really suck, because they have *much* less experience.
I'd get a Desire, if you can afford it.

vegetaleb said:
X10:
-More expensive
-Too big for pocket (Desire is just ok thanks to 11.9mm) they have the same thickness
-Screen actually limited to 65k because of OS 1.6 it will probably ship with 2.0, hence the delay
-OS 2.1 will be available ''somewhere'' between June and October above and custom rom will be avaible soon
-Much less ROM devs true
-Price depreciation is pretty fast
+ SE build quality (I am a 10y old SE fanboy)
+ Multimedia (better camera and sound)
+bigger and better screen
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Im really struggling to make up my mind which one to get.

screen isnt better at all, its just an old lcd-panel
the desire has amoled

Choose Desire, AMOLED screen (type of OLED screen).
It is much efficient, especially if you use quite a lot of black colors as your theme:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED
Power consumption
While an OLED will consume around 40% of the power of an LCD displaying an image which is primarily black, for the majority of images, it will consume 60–80% of the power of an LCD - however it can use over three times as much power to display an image with a white background[53] such as a document or website. This can lead to disappointing real-world battery life in mobile devices.
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Probably I will just change the background to simply black and see if it has some effects on battery life
The .3" diff in screen size is not much. Think about it, take a ruler and measure it
And dont forget, the HTC Desire RAM is 576MB compared to x10 384MB, that's a big deal for performance during multitask (you will do this for sure).
8 MP camera does not do justice compare to 5MP, the sensor is too tiny anyway. In fact, the 5MP will produce cleaner image (less noise).
Also, HTC Desire has "optical trackpad", but I am not sure how effective is this ... Anyone know if this can substitute a D-Pad? For example during browsing
And x10 is ugly ... my taste
Found x10 unboxing and hands-on:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/03/sony-ericsson-x10-unboxing-and-hands-on/
Again, after watched it, I will take HTC Desire anyday!

From the Brilliant Mind that Gave us "Death To PegHelp.exe" now comes the Thread Title Addition... Drumrol....
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[COMP] is only to be used in Device to Device Comparisons in General Chats.
In this Pre Existing Desire Period.
So [COMP] for Roms vs Roms is still a nono in XDA-Land.
Any [COMP] done in a fashionable manor without Childish Mud throwing won't be trashed or closed.
XDA-developers in General does not encourage to start [COMP] Threads.

I am in Canada, Rogers is suppose to get X10 by April 14. The phone would cost around 199.99 CAD. I was also confused about what to get, 199.99 CAD vs ~600 CAD? Then I realized that if a spend only 200.00 in this phone then probably I can get other cheaper phones from china later such as http://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-lephone-gets-officially-pictured-1169432/
there are many other cheap chinese phone of really low cost. So I am going to save money and later get cheaper chinese phones

arxx said:
ok, iv'e got some decidingto do
though my work, I can get an x10 for half the price, special deal we got now.
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I was originally looking at the X10 until I found the Desire. There will be much better support for the Desire on xda and SE are not very good at updating firmware.
Can't you get the X10 at half price and then sell it on ebay? You would probably get pretty much the whole price for the Desire.

Personally i prefer SE, because i am too kinda SE fanboy. However i would say that HTC having more experience with Android did not screw up with the keyboard as SE did with its x10. It might be also that it will be corrected in the final version, lets hopes so. there is an engadget review of it, i hope it helps.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-review/

i played around with an x10 a couple of weeks ago in a congress.
The phone feels choppy for having a 1ghz processor, android 1.6 doesn't work really well with the 480x800 resolution, everything is small, the notification bar is barelly readable. SE reskinned the music player app in a nice way, the timeline ui is just a widget to put in a page and is a bit slow but nice looking. The capacitive touch wasn't really reactive, don't know if was the device i was testing, but sometimes i had to click the icons or swipe repeatedly to make it work.
personal impressions? 5/10 i'll never buy it, never saw a 1ghz device reacting so slowly to commands.

vegetaleb said:
X10:
-More expensive
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Well, not when he gets it half-off. I would still go for the Desire, though.
If you can afford using 7000ish NOK at once, why not do what norm2002 suggested, and get the X10 at half price to sell on eBay or Finn.no, and get the Desire for your own use?

I was torn between the X10, N1 and Desire. In the end it was an easy decision for me.
Desire (Sense) has exchange mail/contact/calendar sync. GAME OVER
EDIT: Yes, I know "there is an app for that" but I save US$0.99

[face_palm] HTC Desire HD.

Well isn't this rumour fantastic news?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/rumored-htc-desire-hd-specs-surface-4-3-inch-screen-8-megapixe/

Afro Az said:
Well isn't this rumour fantastic news?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/rumored-htc-desire-hd-specs-surface-4-3-inch-screen-8-megapixe/
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October timeframe sounds about right. It doesn't sound like enough of an upgrade for me to worry about it, so I guess I'll skip that generation and wait for the next.
Regards,
Dave

damn aluminium body <3 shame about the too big screen, though it be prob possible to port some of the stuff from it to our desires

I just read that on another site and considering I just bought my Desire online yesterday (so it isn't here yet), it wasn't be best news item to read.
I didn't really want a 4.3" screen though (especially if it's pentile...), and while the aluminium body sounds great, none of the other changes are appealing enough to me to worry about.

I know it happens all the time in the tech world. But I hate the feeling I get when something newer and shinier comes out and I can't get it. Especially when its a "better" specced model of a phone I already own.
P.S I know the phone isn't out yet and is only a rumour, but don't you guys sometimes feel the same?

Think of it as the GSM, 3G-only, version of the EVO 4G that everyone has been asking for. The aluminum body addition is nice.

4.3" too big

I like this present device enough... don't need an upgrade until things improve considerably more, which I'm not expecting till March-June 2011. The only currently outstanding issue for me is memory space.
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It's not really too much of an upgrade. Better camera and in built memory. There will be better stuff to come than this for sure.

Looks like HD2 on steroids with Android. I suppose it will have LCD and if they manage to squeeze it in smaller body then HD2, but with bigger battery it would be great.

i think im gonna cry, simply better than the desire

Ah don't worry about it, it's not as if it's life and death is it.

theres always going to be something better coming out.
Get what you need, and not whats new on the streets

I was slightly underwhelmed to be honest...

Specs are great, everything is "desirable" apart from the size of the device as i personally think 4.3" screen is too big - owned the Touch HD2 but sold it for the Desire as it was too big for me, especially with a leather case
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

cgrec92 said:
i think im gonna cry, simply better than the desire
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How is it better? Same processor, possibly similar RAM and most likely running Sense 2.1 or getting 2.2 at the same time as the current Desire. An aluminium body doesn't make a phone and more likely than not it will be in some sort if case anyway.
The rest of the specs are a natural evolution of things though that screen is getting close to tablet territory for me. I think the Desire is a great phone the way it is though a Hummingbird processor and PowerVR GPU would be certainly welcome.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

There's not really much in the way of specs increase though, same processor means it won't have increased performance...
More onboard storage is handy, but not as essential as it was thanks to apps2SD. A bigger screen without a resolution change doesn't really interest me, the Desire seems about the right size as it is. No interest in a slightly improved camera.
Pretty underwhelming for a 'Desire HD'.

Coming from a HD2 I am not jealous it has a bigger screen lol.. Only thing that would get me jealous was if it had 4G and a faster CPU, which it doesn't. Until then, it can have a bigger screen, 720p recording and what not, I couldn't really care less lol, we have custom roms with 720p recording anyway so that one is already irrelevant. I love my Desire so much more because it doesn't take my entire hand to use and because it just works like a phone should (Unlike HD2). Anyone who is thinking "oh crap I just got my Desire" you have an awesome phone. Enjoy it and stop worrying about new versions lol (Until a sort of EVO 4G comes out here, then ill join the club haha)

What i find to be so disappointing is that they aren't upgrading the CPU! I mean cmon HTC look at what Samsung and Motorola have coming out. Not to mention the fact that the Snapdragon's GPU is pretty poor compared to samsung/moto. The earlier rumors stated that the Ace would have a dual core @ 1.5Ghz, what happened to that?!?

SupremeBeaver said:
The earlier rumors stated that the Ace would have a dual core @ 1.5Ghz, what happened to that?!?
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I really can't see any benefit whatsoever in having a CPU with those sort of specs in a phone at the moment.
Regards,
Dave

HTC Desire vs Samsung Captivate ... help me decide!

Hey guys,
As the battery on my HTC Diamond is dying, I'm in the market for a new phone, and I am down to either htc Desire or Samsung Captivate ...
Why HTC Desire?
- Love HTC phones, my last 4 phones were all HTC's
- Love Sense, hate TouchWhiz
- Slightly smaller, so it would fit a little better in jeans pocket
- Availability of development and cooked ROMs
Why Captivate?
- S-AMOLED screen is the best screen available now
- Hummingbird > Snapdragon
- 4.0" screen is better than 3.7"
- Have concern about Desire's battery life ... vastly disappointed with Diamond's battery though I know 1400mAh > 900, but many people still complain about Desire's battery life
- Captivate seems to be better at video playback, smoother, more vivid colour
- Captivate seems to be snappier with web browsing
What do you guys think? Anything else I should know about these phones?
Like I said, the biggest appeal of the Desire is Sense ... I think it's a great UI and I'm almost temped to pick the phone just for its UI. That said, I have concern about Desire's battery life. The Captivate's S-AMOLED screen is also something you fall in love with.
Any suggestion or advices is welcome!

sence is awsome and android isnt the same without HTC Sence trust me ..... as far as hummingbird vs snapdragon goes ..... sure adreno isnt the best gpu, but neither is powervr now the nvida tegra 2 chipset is out and snapdragon as a cpu easly surpasses hummingbird or any other omap/arm cortex based cpu. agreed the samoled screen is gawjus and the colours are great, but i recently upgraded my amoled desire for a slcd Desire HD and the diffrence isnt that much... end of the day, if you get a desire you wont be disapointed, guaranteed, but buy a capitave and you may be

Thanks for the reply.
I'm on my 4th htc phones and haven't been disappointed in any of them yet ... my only complaint is battery life ... but I just keep my car charger in my car all the times.
I've got a similar thread at the Captivate forum and it seems the Captivate, with the existing Samsung ROM (and all the cooked ROM's based on it), is pretty buggy. People have complained about self power off, GPS not able to lock as some of the more annoying problems.
Does the Desire have any quirk or anything you guys aren't pleased with?
BTW HD and HD2 are nice, but I think 4.3" is too big to be 'pocket-able' ... 4" is as big as I'd go

number16 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I've on my 4th htc phones and haven't been disappointed in any of them yet ... my only complaint is battery life ... but I just keep my car charger in my car all the times.
I've got a similar thread at the Captivate forum and it seems the Captivate, with the existing Samsung ROM (and all the cooked ROM's based on it), is pretty buggy. People have complained about self power off, GPS not able to lock as some of the more annoying problems.
Does the Desire have any quirk or anything you guys aren't pleased with?
BTW HD and HD2 are nice, but I think 4.3" is too big to be 'pocket-able' ... 4" is as big as I'd go
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the gps works really well on the desire, samsung software is notoriously buggy. dont get me wrong the galaxy s series are great phones, they just dont have that htc level of polish, there was a random reboot issue with the desire at one point, but htc addressed it

IMHO, don't even think about Samsung. Get the Desire and I guarantee you won't regret it. Above all, don't be fooled by specs sheets. It's mostly the software that makes the phone great or not these days....

I'd go for the Desire, simply because I feel it has a better community behind it.

btw, I got a quick question ... do all the Telus Desire (in Canada) have SLCD screen instead of AMOLED?
Is it a biggie? Is AMOLED better than SLCD?

well about the battery life...
i got a custom rom on my desire (the newest miui) and i easily get 2-3 days under normal use (screen on ~1-1.30 hours, browsing web, playing games, having internet turned off when screen off).
if you play games and browse the web a lot it may die within one day, but i never had issues with the battery life.
if you are able to charge it over night (even better in your car too), this will not be a concern for you..
seriously

number16 said:
Hey guys,
As the battery on my HTC Diamond is dying, I'm in the market for a new phone, and I am down to either htc Desire or Samsung Captivate ...
Why HTC Desire?
- Love HTC phones, my last 4 phones were all HTC's
- Love Sense, hate TouchWhiz
- Slightly smaller, so it would fit a little better in jeans pocket
- Availability of development and cooked ROMs
Why Captivate?
- S-AMOLED screen is the best screen available now
- Hummingbird > Snapdragon
- 4.0" screen is better than 3.7"
- Have concern about Desire's battery life ... vastly disappointed with Diamond's battery though I know 1400mAh > 900, but many people still complain about Desire's battery life
- Captivate seems to be better at video playback, smoother, more vivid colour
- Captivate seems to be snappier with web browsing
What do you guys think? Anything else I should know about these phones?
Like I said, the biggest appeal of the Desire is Sense ... I think it's a great UI and I'm almost temped to pick the phone just for its UI. That said, I have concern about Desire's battery life. The Captivate's S-AMOLED screen is also something you fall in love with.
Any suggestion or advices is welcome!
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I was really close to getting the captivate which I was able to get from my own carrier but instead I went with the desire and bought it outright from telus.
Their were a number of reasons that made me choose the desire.
The captivate has a rated 5 hour talk time versus the desire which is 6.5 hours
The captivate seems to have an antenna gate issue that is similiar to iphone 4. except in this case I didnt see any remedy like using a case.
The captivate's power button is on the right side not a major issue but started to add up for me.
The captivate doesn't have a flash for camera/video camera desire does.
Here is a good review of the desire and the captivate. Hope it helps you make your decision.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2370844,00.asp
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366803,00.asp
For me there's only two negatives with the Desire. The battery life which can be solved by rooting, installing custom roms and/or getting an extra battery. The other problem with the Deisre is the app memory. You can always root it and install a rom that supports apps2d+.

Without reading all the crap here no doubt desire. Make sure to get the A8182
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

my dad and 1 of my best friends have the galaxy s, and I have desire, the lcd screen on my desire is beautiful even when you put it next to the super amoled of the sgs, and its only when they're sat next to each other that you can actually notice any difference, also the sgs battery is no better than the desire, granted i do have to charge mine every day, and I am quite a heavy user, but every time my friend comes to my house the first thing he says is " can I steal some electric please mate".
The sense UI is awsome just the whole layout of the phone is so much nicer and more functional than the sgs too. so all in all its a win for the desire.

about that gorgeus AMOLED screen, i've noticed that colors are a little more vivid but quite unrealistic... I've comared both phones before buying and I prefer colors on the desire

Thanks for all the comments guys. I picked up a Desire over the weekend ... it's been rooted and S-off'ed ... but still undecided on which ROM to flash

I like senseUI, so i'll go for Desire.

i love desire just because of sense...it is so beautiful...

Trading Desire for Galaxy S - good deal?

I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?

Love HTC Desire
Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.

friedkimchi said:
Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
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Shooters like nova or modern combat don't work properly because Desire doesn't have true multitouch screen. Aside from that, some gpu intensive games don't run smooth.

If you need your phone for games, go for the sgs, I believe user experience is much more than simple specs though and that's why I went for the desire.
I think a whole new desire or other gsm smartphone line will be released soon after the evo 3d

If you still have Desire in your hand, I say, can you wait for some time?
At least until Samsung Galaxy S2 or any other new Android phones from the next generation, those with dual cores proc, are already in the market.
I know Galaxy S or Desire HD is better than Desire but it is not really a major improvement (in my opinion).

Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.

lvnatic said:
Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Hmmm...if you aren't really in need of having a new phone, I think Desire can still serve you well until next year..but..if you can get a good price for a second hand Galaxy S or Desire HD and also if you can get a good price for your current Desire..well...it is also not a bad idea...

lvnatic said:
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM)
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My mate's got a Galaxy S and it does feel flimsy when held next to my Desire. It's really light in comparison and although some could argue in it's favour, personally it just doesn't feel like it has the same build quality. I'd worry if it was dropped but then that's nothing a good case wouldn't fix I suppose.
The screen isn't noticeably better in normal use but I've got an AMOLED Desire, I haven't seen an LCD to compare to.
The lack of Sense and Sense widgets is really apparent and if, like you said, you don't like non-sense Roms then it could be an issue. This is still Android though of course so with a little patience you could still customise with apps that give a similar appearance if not quite exactly the same experience.
All being said, it is a nice piece of kit and it is better in graphic intensive games. There's no denying it's value for money. It would take quite a bit more to persuade me to swap my Desire for it though.

lvnatic said:
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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No. I've used samsung I5700 recently, a much cheaper phone, but I have enough of samsung for a while I already can tell that I don't really like sense and will switch to CM. I hate glossy plastic . Instead of app2sd I will use link2sd with custom hboot.
I imagine if not samsung someone will port gingerbread to i9000 and if you want good MT you probably need to switch anyway

lvnatic said:
I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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i had a sgs fascinate and i hated it. yes the gpu is better and its noticable but the touchwiz ui sucks. plus super amoled kills sucks your battery life quickly. with 3 hours screen on, youll b at 20%. plus flashing custom roms and stuff can b a chore. odin is alot more tricky to play with then your providers ruu. id suggest the desire hd or wait 4 the desire s. there r things i miss about my sgs. but im happy with my desire. sense ui cannot b beat. 10minutes with touch wiz and youll understand what i mean

The GPS chip on the SGS is utterly ****. No two ways about it and no fix for it as it's a hardware design fault. Can't be used for driving navigation as it's only accurate to about 50-100m when moving.
If nav is important to you then don't do it.

I don't know why you're having trouble with the Desire, just flash a new ROM and be done with it. If you can't be bothered, get the crappy DHD or the SGS.

Good deal? No period...
But then again I'm sure if you ask on SGS forum they'll tell you otherwise... I wouldn't change my desire for anything on the market right now...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

If the performanc eof the desire is not enough just buy a class 10 microsd card of over 8gb and you will see a big difference in operating speed with any custom roms.

trade
can i trade my galaxy s i9000 w/ miui 2.3.3. rc3 for your desire

debateable?
Ihave the desire and my wife has the galaxy s,i do actually like the s,but more for its screen size not hardware or os. sense is a bonus for a phone i find,but its your preference,im running insertcoin 2.0.0 a2sd at the moment,roms,really do extend your love of a phone. Though roms are out for the galaxy...
but end of the day..................MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND?

Afaik the sgs is basically a desire with a better gpu and a bit newer cpu. If you don't care too much about games you should go for the desire since it has better software, better build quality, better support and last but not least better devs here on xda

HTC Desire - what's next?

The HTC Desire has been a pretty great phone for me, love the physical buttons, and the rooting scene is very very much alive.
Just wondering, will there be a phone that have the same size as the desire, but with updated internals like a dual core processor and more ram? Seems to be trend for bigger screens and any dual core phone is usually 4" and up.
What do you think?
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The new samsung is so light you don't even notice the screen size difference in your pocket. Personally I would like to stick with HTC but if you were looking to buy a new phone right now nothing comes close to the samsung in terms of sexiness/thinness and lightness!
EDIT: and of course speed

I think the HTC Sensation ist the model you are looking for.
Same formfactor as Desire and Dualcore and so on.
Regards,
chrrh...

chrrh said:
I think the HTC Sensation ist the model you are looking for.
Same formfactor as Desire and Dualcore and so on.
Regards,
chrrh...
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Except massively locked bootloader, radio and kernel.
Swyped...

HTC have really let me down with their new locked down
Mentality. I also wanted a reasonable size dual core phone
But had to come to the realization that its never gonna happen
(someone prove me wrong and I'll eat my words) so I went for
The galaxy s2. It craps on the sensation. The free ram on that thing
Is appalling and its still choppy in the browser with a dual core.
Come on htc! What have you been doing? Not catching up thats for sure.
I would love sense 3.0 on hardware like the galaxy S2 but we can't have
Everything.

chrrh said:
I think the HTC Sensation ist the model you are looking for.
Same formfactor as Desire and Dualcore and so on.
Regards,
chrrh...
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Meaple said:
Except massively locked bootloader, radio and kernel.
Swyped...
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Doesn’t the Sensation have a 4.3” screen compared with the Desire’s 3.7”? I mean I’ve tried to use phones with screens 4” and bigger but it just doesn’t fit right for me....
hairykewell said:
The new samsung is so light you don't even notice the screen size difference in your pocket. Personally I would like to stick with HTC but if you were looking to buy a new phone right now nothing comes close to the samsung in terms of sexiness/thinness and lightness!
EDIT: and of course speed
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Thats the thing really, I’m not looking for a phone right now, I can wait for another year or so. But I have always had my eye out for new phones. My 1st smartphone was the 1st gen metal iPhone, I used that since 2007 till my job required me to have a phone without a camera. I got the Desire mainly because I wanted an iPhone-like OS and that I could easily remove the camera module without damaging the rest of the phone. But I’ve fallen in love with the android OS and the amazing variety of phones there are in the market.
HTC as a company is great. I think they’re moving in the right direction. Just that their new phones have locked bootloaders and well, the rooting community is what I really love about the android platform.

esk02k said:
HTC have really let me down with their new locked down
Mentality. I also wanted a reasonable size dual core phone
But had to come to the realization that its never gonna happen
(someone prove me wrong and I'll eat my words) so I went for
The galaxy s2. It craps on the sensation. The free ram on that thing
Is appalling and its still choppy in the browser with a dual core.
Come on htc! What have you been doing? Not catching up thats for sure.
I would love sense 3.0 on hardware like the galaxy S2 but we can't have
Everything.
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You’ve used the Sensation? Is sense still kinda ram hungry?

leader288 said:
Doesn’t the Sensation have a 4.3” screen compared with the Desire’s 3.7”? I mean I’ve tried to use phones with screens 4” and bigger but it just doesn’t fit right for me....
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Yes, and I agree - I want one with the same physical size as the desire personally...

I want a phone that's quad core, 32GB internal mem, 1GB RAM...
BUT
I want it smaller and thinner than the Desire, and have a battery that lasts a week with heavy use
Seriously, guys - it's not gonna happen. You want more features, the phone will get bigger and have crap battery life. Just enjoy what we have as this is a golden age for mobile phones

Sensation will be my next step.
The unibody is awesome and the specs are too.
I stick to HTC cause I just love their hardware and quality.
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I think it's worth waiting till Q4 to change for me, love my Desire and am very keen to have physical buttons(not keyboard) on my next handset but unfortunately it looks like the top handsets will no longer have them.

I'm with the OP on this one. I love my desire, still do, but am keeping my eye out for the next desire-like phone. I suppose the htc desire s is the next logical step, but from what I've been reading, it's not that drastic of a jump and therefore not worth the upgrade. I would have to say htc dropped the ball on this one. The desire s will not reach the same popularity s it's predecessor simply because it doesn't bring enough improvements to the table. While the sensation seems to be the next flagship, the large size, insufficient ram and internal storage are deal breakers for me.
Swyped from my iPhone killer/HTC Desire

Just read about the google nexus 4g. My interest is piqued, although the "monster" screen size has me worried.
Swyped from my iPhone killer/HTC Desire

I was going to get nexus s but no led notiffication, no hd recording, less ram than desire and 4 " screen put me off , well not so much the screen but rest of features
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Check out nexus 4g, google's third phone. Hopefully they remedy all the issues that were present in the nexus s
08r3308 said:
I was going to get nexus s but no led notiffication, no hd recording, less ram than desire and 4 " screen put me off , well not so much the screen but rest of features
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Sensation seems to be the logical next step, though gaining root access and S-OFF is a bit of a problem at the moment. Last summer when I bought my Desire, I knew I would not have to change my phone until dual cores kicked in. Well, they came a bit early I'll probably keep my Desire for a year or two more before I move on to dual cores.
I do keep hearing that dual-core processors and Sense 3.0 are not optimized, but that won't be much of a problem once the device is fully rooted and ROMs start cooking. Think of how innocent the stock Desire feels, if you ever for some reason turn back to it. We have a monster now. So, it's all up to devs to figure out a way to root Sensation. After, it's golden.

rant... Disregard...

I was thinking on buying the HTC Sensation but its too big for me...
HTC Desire S didnt evolve much... and I love HTC Desire buttons...
Ill be waiting till IceCream Sandwich!

I know its v picky, but why has HTC switched to shiny buttons for power and volume? They look so tacky. One thing I love about the Desire - it looks muted/classy, not shiny shiny.
On the S Nexus S, I was surprised how little I noticed the increased screen size, v different to the Desire HD which feels massive (there's only a .3 difference, isn't there?)
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I hate those physical buttons. They were OK when I bought the phone a year ago. Now I have to press twice or press them really hard to make them work... But I don't like the touch buttons on my gf's Wildfire S as well so I'm kinda stuck...
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