Hey guys,
As the battery on my HTC Diamond is dying, I'm in the market for a new phone, and I am down to either htc Desire or Samsung Captivate ...
Why HTC Desire?
- Love HTC phones, my last 4 phones were all HTC's
- Love Sense, hate TouchWhiz
- Slightly smaller, so it would fit a little better in jeans pocket
- Availability of development and cooked ROMs
Why Captivate?
- S-AMOLED screen is the best screen available now
- Hummingbird > Snapdragon
- 4.0" screen is better than 3.7"
- Have concern about Desire's battery life ... vastly disappointed with Diamond's battery though I know 1400mAh > 900, but many people still complain about Desire's battery life
- Captivate seems to be better at video playback, smoother, more vivid colour
- Captivate seems to be snappier with web browsing
What do you guys think? Anything else I should know about these phones?
Like I said, the biggest appeal of the Desire is Sense ... I think it's a great UI and I'm almost temped to pick the phone just for its UI. That said, I have concern about Desire's battery life. The Captivate's S-AMOLED screen is also something you fall in love with.
Any suggestion or advices is welcome!
sence is awsome and android isnt the same without HTC Sence trust me ..... as far as hummingbird vs snapdragon goes ..... sure adreno isnt the best gpu, but neither is powervr now the nvida tegra 2 chipset is out and snapdragon as a cpu easly surpasses hummingbird or any other omap/arm cortex based cpu. agreed the samoled screen is gawjus and the colours are great, but i recently upgraded my amoled desire for a slcd Desire HD and the diffrence isnt that much... end of the day, if you get a desire you wont be disapointed, guaranteed, but buy a capitave and you may be
Thanks for the reply.
I'm on my 4th htc phones and haven't been disappointed in any of them yet ... my only complaint is battery life ... but I just keep my car charger in my car all the times.
I've got a similar thread at the Captivate forum and it seems the Captivate, with the existing Samsung ROM (and all the cooked ROM's based on it), is pretty buggy. People have complained about self power off, GPS not able to lock as some of the more annoying problems.
Does the Desire have any quirk or anything you guys aren't pleased with?
BTW HD and HD2 are nice, but I think 4.3" is too big to be 'pocket-able' ... 4" is as big as I'd go
number16 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I've on my 4th htc phones and haven't been disappointed in any of them yet ... my only complaint is battery life ... but I just keep my car charger in my car all the times.
I've got a similar thread at the Captivate forum and it seems the Captivate, with the existing Samsung ROM (and all the cooked ROM's based on it), is pretty buggy. People have complained about self power off, GPS not able to lock as some of the more annoying problems.
Does the Desire have any quirk or anything you guys aren't pleased with?
BTW HD and HD2 are nice, but I think 4.3" is too big to be 'pocket-able' ... 4" is as big as I'd go
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the gps works really well on the desire, samsung software is notoriously buggy. dont get me wrong the galaxy s series are great phones, they just dont have that htc level of polish, there was a random reboot issue with the desire at one point, but htc addressed it
IMHO, don't even think about Samsung. Get the Desire and I guarantee you won't regret it. Above all, don't be fooled by specs sheets. It's mostly the software that makes the phone great or not these days....
I'd go for the Desire, simply because I feel it has a better community behind it.
btw, I got a quick question ... do all the Telus Desire (in Canada) have SLCD screen instead of AMOLED?
Is it a biggie? Is AMOLED better than SLCD?
well about the battery life...
i got a custom rom on my desire (the newest miui) and i easily get 2-3 days under normal use (screen on ~1-1.30 hours, browsing web, playing games, having internet turned off when screen off).
if you play games and browse the web a lot it may die within one day, but i never had issues with the battery life.
if you are able to charge it over night (even better in your car too), this will not be a concern for you..
seriously
number16 said:
Hey guys,
As the battery on my HTC Diamond is dying, I'm in the market for a new phone, and I am down to either htc Desire or Samsung Captivate ...
Why HTC Desire?
- Love HTC phones, my last 4 phones were all HTC's
- Love Sense, hate TouchWhiz
- Slightly smaller, so it would fit a little better in jeans pocket
- Availability of development and cooked ROMs
Why Captivate?
- S-AMOLED screen is the best screen available now
- Hummingbird > Snapdragon
- 4.0" screen is better than 3.7"
- Have concern about Desire's battery life ... vastly disappointed with Diamond's battery though I know 1400mAh > 900, but many people still complain about Desire's battery life
- Captivate seems to be better at video playback, smoother, more vivid colour
- Captivate seems to be snappier with web browsing
What do you guys think? Anything else I should know about these phones?
Like I said, the biggest appeal of the Desire is Sense ... I think it's a great UI and I'm almost temped to pick the phone just for its UI. That said, I have concern about Desire's battery life. The Captivate's S-AMOLED screen is also something you fall in love with.
Any suggestion or advices is welcome!
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I was really close to getting the captivate which I was able to get from my own carrier but instead I went with the desire and bought it outright from telus.
Their were a number of reasons that made me choose the desire.
The captivate has a rated 5 hour talk time versus the desire which is 6.5 hours
The captivate seems to have an antenna gate issue that is similiar to iphone 4. except in this case I didnt see any remedy like using a case.
The captivate's power button is on the right side not a major issue but started to add up for me.
The captivate doesn't have a flash for camera/video camera desire does.
Here is a good review of the desire and the captivate. Hope it helps you make your decision.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2370844,00.asp
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366803,00.asp
For me there's only two negatives with the Desire. The battery life which can be solved by rooting, installing custom roms and/or getting an extra battery. The other problem with the Deisre is the app memory. You can always root it and install a rom that supports apps2d+.
Without reading all the crap here no doubt desire. Make sure to get the A8182
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my dad and 1 of my best friends have the galaxy s, and I have desire, the lcd screen on my desire is beautiful even when you put it next to the super amoled of the sgs, and its only when they're sat next to each other that you can actually notice any difference, also the sgs battery is no better than the desire, granted i do have to charge mine every day, and I am quite a heavy user, but every time my friend comes to my house the first thing he says is " can I steal some electric please mate".
The sense UI is awsome just the whole layout of the phone is so much nicer and more functional than the sgs too. so all in all its a win for the desire.
about that gorgeus AMOLED screen, i've noticed that colors are a little more vivid but quite unrealistic... I've comared both phones before buying and I prefer colors on the desire
Thanks for all the comments guys. I picked up a Desire over the weekend ... it's been rooted and S-off'ed ... but still undecided on which ROM to flash
I like senseUI, so i'll go for Desire.
i love desire just because of sense...it is so beautiful...
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Hi Guys,
Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.
PROBLEM IS I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!
What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!
Thanks!
Rolphez
I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.
And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.
The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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rolphez said:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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You can always root the samsung and remove the crap
Or just use a different launcher...
In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.
The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.
Due to the 3D chip they're using.
hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive
it's also better outdoors?
i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!
btw i luvs me desire
well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire
I have almost the same predicament.
I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.
So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.
To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.
I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.
Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.
I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.
I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.
The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?
Sorry for the long post.
Dave
PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh
Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.
Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:
Starting with the Cosmetics:
1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.
2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again!
3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)
4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.
Moving on to other stuff...
5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.
6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.
7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...
8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...
9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)
10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.
11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.
12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved
Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...
btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them
just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player
For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)
I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.
I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)
I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is
I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.
It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...
I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...
A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
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I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.
dave wroe said:
...The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
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Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.
Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.
I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?!
Unless you really use the 3D chip from the Galaxy S I would go for the Desire. Samsung's phone quality is rubbish, the Galaxy is no exception.
As said the GPS is very poor, while the Desire's is very good. The processor itself isn't much better than the Desire's. And if you get even one update on the Galaxy you should be happy.
The SUPER AMOLED is a bit nicer but that's mainly because the Desire has a relatively cheap AMOLED screen. It won't help you much in direct sunlight although they claim it will.
The resolution is the same and personally I think 3,7" is a better phone size than 4".
I agree with you on that one...
One thing struck me from using the Galaxy S is the screen quality and touch responsiveness compared to the desire. The Galaxy S pisses over the desire in this department. Add the better Camera and camcorder and I was actually thinking of moving from the desire to the Galaxy. I use the phone for a lot for navigation duties so to hear that the GPS is lacking is a real shame. Is it a hardware problem or something that can be fixed by an update that it will probably not receive by the sounds of things?
Hi All,
I'm from Malaysia, here we pretty much dont have contracts, thus we are free to buy our own unlocked mobiles, albeit at retail prices.
Anyway, i've been using the hero for a year now, and am thinking of upgrading. I have narrowed it down to either a Desire, Nexus One or Samsung I9000 Galaxy.
Both the Desire and Galaxy are officially available here, but the Nexus One isn't (i'd have to go for grey imports - thus warranty becomes a problem). Leaving the nexus out, im left with the desire and galaxy, both have almost the same price, but i've been browsing the galaxy forum and it seems there are lags (with lag fixes)? Hardware wise, the galaxy is more powerful (but is it that noticeable?), but what i want is a mobile with very active and broad range of rom development, the desire wins in this case over the galaxy.
Will it be worth it and wise to get a desire now, since the desire HD is going to be released soon? I for one find the HD's screen too big for me. What i want is a phone that i would be able to use for at least a year+, and one that has active rom development (which is why i choose the hero a year back).
I've been looking at the spec sheet and the HD has only certain advantages over the Desire, namely better GPU (adreno 205 vs 200 on the desire), fab process (45nm vs 65nm for the desire) which should translate to lower power consumption but the behemoth of a display on the HD would consume more power, a better camera (8mp vs 5mp - with such small sensors, whats the difference anyways?), and slightly extra ram. Oh, and of course the screen size difference.
That being said, i'd like to know from you desire owners is it worth upgrading to a desire from a hero now? And also, whats the battery life on the stock desire?
Maybe the Desire Z is better for you?
I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).
ste1164 said:
Maybe the Desire Z is better for you?
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Maybe i forgot to mention that i am not looking for a phone with physical qwerty keyboard. The reason behind this: It has a slider which has mechanical moving parts and is more prone to damage. I've had too many problems with flips/sliders right from the days of Motorola Startac, my last slider being a nokia n96, which flex cable gave away twice, so i kinda have a phobia towards anything but candybars .
I also want a 'best bang for buck' device, and both the desire/galaxy s are in that category. I could only imagine the retail price of the desire hd and z when they are launched here.
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I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).
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Have you tried any of the roms which undervolts the proc? To be honest, the price of an iphone 4 isnt that too far away, just slightly higher than the desire here, but then again, i just cant explain why, but i cant see myself using an iphone ever. i practically hate it..
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Have you tried any of the roms which undervolts the proc? To be honest, the price of an iphone 4 isnt that too far away, just slightly higher than the desire here, but then again, i just cant explain why, but i cant see myself using an iphone ever. i practically hate it..
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I am not suggesting that the iphone is an overall better phone... it's just that motion and scrolling are better as it uses a dedicated GPU. If i was to buy a phone i would again go for the Desire. It also costs almost half the price of the iphone.
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I am not suggesting that the iphone is an overall better phone... it's just that motion and scrolling are better as it uses a dedicated GPU. If i was to buy a phone i would again go for the Desire. It also costs almost half the price of the iphone.
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Hey dont get me wrong there! i was just voicing out my opinion on an iphone. Guess we're on the same page there.
Nothing desperately wrong with the iPhone. I own both and they are both fantastic. Why dont you try the desire, galaxy s and desire HD in store and see which one you like best?
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Nothing desperately wrong with the iPhone. I own both and they are both fantastic. Why dont you try the desire, galaxy s and desire HD in store and see which one you like best?
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Well I can try out the galaxy s n desire in store, but not the desire hd as it's still not out.. well, even I admit the iPhone can be good, it just isn't my cup of tea
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I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).
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my hero is just as fast as my desire. just a easy to see in bright sunlight if not better, battery lasts longer and built much better, the only thing it cant do as well as my desire is play games .......
Hi mate, well i didn't have a hero so i can't help you out, but i had a sony xperia x10 instead and i can safely tell you the Desire is worth every penny more. Once you calibrate the battery the desire is really awesome!
I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
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Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
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Shooters like nova or modern combat don't work properly because Desire doesn't have true multitouch screen. Aside from that, some gpu intensive games don't run smooth.
If you need your phone for games, go for the sgs, I believe user experience is much more than simple specs though and that's why I went for the desire.
I think a whole new desire or other gsm smartphone line will be released soon after the evo 3d
If you still have Desire in your hand, I say, can you wait for some time?
At least until Samsung Galaxy S2 or any other new Android phones from the next generation, those with dual cores proc, are already in the market.
I know Galaxy S or Desire HD is better than Desire but it is not really a major improvement (in my opinion).
Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Hmmm...if you aren't really in need of having a new phone, I think Desire can still serve you well until next year..but..if you can get a good price for a second hand Galaxy S or Desire HD and also if you can get a good price for your current Desire..well...it is also not a bad idea...
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What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM)
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My mate's got a Galaxy S and it does feel flimsy when held next to my Desire. It's really light in comparison and although some could argue in it's favour, personally it just doesn't feel like it has the same build quality. I'd worry if it was dropped but then that's nothing a good case wouldn't fix I suppose.
The screen isn't noticeably better in normal use but I've got an AMOLED Desire, I haven't seen an LCD to compare to.
The lack of Sense and Sense widgets is really apparent and if, like you said, you don't like non-sense Roms then it could be an issue. This is still Android though of course so with a little patience you could still customise with apps that give a similar appearance if not quite exactly the same experience.
All being said, it is a nice piece of kit and it is better in graphic intensive games. There's no denying it's value for money. It would take quite a bit more to persuade me to swap my Desire for it though.
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You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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No. I've used samsung I5700 recently, a much cheaper phone, but I have enough of samsung for a while I already can tell that I don't really like sense and will switch to CM. I hate glossy plastic . Instead of app2sd I will use link2sd with custom hboot.
I imagine if not samsung someone will port gingerbread to i9000 and if you want good MT you probably need to switch anyway
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I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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i had a sgs fascinate and i hated it. yes the gpu is better and its noticable but the touchwiz ui sucks. plus super amoled kills sucks your battery life quickly. with 3 hours screen on, youll b at 20%. plus flashing custom roms and stuff can b a chore. odin is alot more tricky to play with then your providers ruu. id suggest the desire hd or wait 4 the desire s. there r things i miss about my sgs. but im happy with my desire. sense ui cannot b beat. 10minutes with touch wiz and youll understand what i mean
The GPS chip on the SGS is utterly ****. No two ways about it and no fix for it as it's a hardware design fault. Can't be used for driving navigation as it's only accurate to about 50-100m when moving.
If nav is important to you then don't do it.
I don't know why you're having trouble with the Desire, just flash a new ROM and be done with it. If you can't be bothered, get the crappy DHD or the SGS.
Good deal? No period...
But then again I'm sure if you ask on SGS forum they'll tell you otherwise... I wouldn't change my desire for anything on the market right now...
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If the performanc eof the desire is not enough just buy a class 10 microsd card of over 8gb and you will see a big difference in operating speed with any custom roms.
trade
can i trade my galaxy s i9000 w/ miui 2.3.3. rc3 for your desire
debateable?
Ihave the desire and my wife has the galaxy s,i do actually like the s,but more for its screen size not hardware or os. sense is a bonus for a phone i find,but its your preference,im running insertcoin 2.0.0 a2sd at the moment,roms,really do extend your love of a phone. Though roms are out for the galaxy...
but end of the day..................MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND?
Afaik the sgs is basically a desire with a better gpu and a bit newer cpu. If you don't care too much about games you should go for the desire since it has better software, better build quality, better support and last but not least better devs here on xda
Hello, everyone! I am quite sure this is my first post..But I do tend to wander about the Desire HD Development forums quite a bit and flash ROMs like crazy.
I am beginning to get bored of my Desire HD. I've flashed countless ROMs, and always end up coming back to a Sense based ROM.
I've purchased a MUGEN battery (1500 MaH) and even though it's significantly better than the stock batter, it still doesn't get me through the day. I need a phone that, with a fair bit of use, doesn't need to have a battery swapped out throughout the day.
So, I was wondering if it would be worth my while to upgrade to a Galaxy S2 X (with Telus). I mean, it has A LOT to offer that the Desire HD doesn't..(ie: Front facing camera, better display, better battery, etc). Only thing it lacks is Sense D:
Any thoughts on what I should do?
Wait for new HTC to come out, that would be the best thing you could do. Don't go to dual core when quad core is out next year
That seems like a pretty good idea
I just hope that HTC goes all out for a good battery! That is the biggest downfall of the DHD. That and lack of a front facing camera.
I know what you mean about getting bored. Sadly that's human nature.
I maybe getting bored of my DHD, but I still love what it can do & will continue to do.
That said, I'd suggest waiting for the rumoured HTC Edge with quad-core. I know I will be getting it.
I get about 36 hours usage that's with light-moderate usage with mostly email & XDA App. Thats on MrGaraks MIUI build.
my DHD is lighting fast with self modded official sense 3 base, lasts me 24 hours with moderate use @ 1.38ghz
runs every heavy weight game on the market today perfectly
camera doing great as evident in my guide
not a scratch on the metallic body or screen
zero reason to leave this beast yet
The closest thing in the market to galaxy S2 is htc senseation wid sense
ok,let say that i dont want sacrifice more than 500 bucks,is it still better to wait for quad core.
(hope my english is understandable... )
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I wouldn't want to upgrade to a newer phone even though desire/inspire lacks some features. It is my favorite smartphone. I would upgrade my phone when HTC vile comes out by the end of the year or next year with android 4.0 and sense 4.0.
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If you're being greedy and want to act smart....save your 500 bucks, let the acer? quadcore tablet out and you can get it for 500 bucks...and keep your desire HD as your phone :/
That's the best deal for you...this way you can take advantage of desire HD along with a fast tablet for intense things...
I also heard that Tegra 3 (quadcore) is not really a quadcore but a dual core with 4 threads..just like intel i3 for CPUs
I am wondering also if it would be worth to upgrade to a Galaxy S2 ?
Oh don't get me wrong - I LOVE my Desire HD. But I really do wish that I had a front camera, and better battery life. Those two things are lacking terribly in the Desire HD.
But I think I will wait for the quad core phones if I am going to upgrade
Thinking about replacing my Infuse. I've read some good things about the One X. Anything else you prefer in the same price range?
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More than happy!
I am thinking to buy another phone, (will keep my One X for sure) but after a lot of reading, there is nothing worth buying until new Tegra 4 comes out or when we see how new Galaxy 4 is performing after it comes out. At least for me.
Especially now I am happy for having One X because new kernel source is out before two days ago and there is lot of good developers working on optimize it and push the best out of our HOX. Also many quality custom roms, Sense and AOSP and excellent developers support and help.
I am having really good time playing with my One X.
Are you ahppy with your One X
Yes.
For me it is perfect. Works great, no bugs, looks good.
I like HTC Sense (this is my second HTC phone).
Only 2 drawbacks, depending on your usage habits:
If you are a heavy "power user" a phone with a replacable battery might be advantageous so you can switch out halfway through the day (this is not an issue for me)
If you are big into flashing Roms themeing etc a phone without the S-off issues of the One X
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Yes.
For me it is perfect. Works great, no bugs, looks good.
I like HTC Sense (this is my second HTC phone).
Only 2 drawbacks, depending on your usage habits:
If you are a heavy "power user" a phone with a replacable battery might be advantageous so you can switch out halfway through the day (this is not an issue for me)
If you are big into flashing Roms themeing etc a phone without the S-off issues of the One X
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What issues does not having s-off cause for flashing roms and theming apart from flashing boot.img from a pc?
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Power is a bit of a problem but for me its not that important as I am used to charge my device every night.
If only the losing carrier signal once or twice every couple of months bug didnt exist the HOX would be perfect.
Be as it may I pretty happy with the beast.
If I were you though I d go for the HOX+ or wait a couple of months for the M7
It's a disappointing performance from HTC one x considering the quad-core ,it should fly it doesn't
No its the last HTC for me after the Desire which was easy to flash roms,this requires too much time and effort.Appalling build quality mine went back 3 times in first 6 months.
i am happy with my one x without sense
I must be very happy because I haven't swapped it for something else. Normally I don't keep a phone more than 2 months let alone 10 months on the one x.
Although I've initially suffered because I couldn't get used to getting only 3-4 h of screen on-time with this beautiful device, I've now come to love it despite that. After all, the stand-by time can be pretty great and most other devices out there have similar average screen-on time (except Razr MAXX and Note 2).
I actually think Sense is the best looking OEM skin and the 4+ version is oh so fluid. Love the camera and the display of my One X too.
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More than happy!
I am thinking to buy another phone, (will keep my One X for sure) but after a lot of reading, there is nothing worth buying until new Tegra 4 comes out or when we see how new Galaxy 4 is performing after it comes out. At least for me.
Especially now I am happy for having One X because new kernel source is out before two days ago and there is lot of good developers working on optimize it and push the best out of our HOX. Also many quality custom roms, Sense and AOSP and excellent developers support and help.
I am having really good time playing with my One X.
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lol i feel exactly the same way about my hox and swapping =)
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It's a disappointing performance from HTC one x considering the quad-core ,it should fly it doesn't
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Not really , did you compare it to other phones , usually ppl compare it with s3 since it's rival to hox and both phones are great , it all comes to personal preference in there. If you're talking about gaming on HoX well that could be an issue for some games since devs are more confortable optimizing it for other devices then tegra. As for speed in system hox is pretty fast considering it has ONE OF THE HEAVIEST systems among them all, If you put CM rom on it you wont see any difference btw nexus 4 , s3 or any other phone, it's the sense that is lagging it sometimes. Anyway with new kernel source this should be fixed in no time.
The only real issue for me with hox would be battery life screen on time. I hit avarage 4:30- 5hrs , but hey s3 hits the similar screen on time, besides with 2100 mah battery in hox we can hit over 6hrs screen on time, it's just hard to get one of those.
Besides with ViperX rom theres none phone equal with customization , infact i have 2 friends who sold their s3 just so they use Viper Rom lol. Besides i think roms for hox are better then on s3 , i've seen s3 roms and theres nothing much changed compared to Stock rom. If you like flashing and custom roms then hox is great imo.
S-off isn't really an issue except when updating comes to the matter if you're branded , but for flashing i don't mind using pc to do it.
Anyway overall i'm happy with my hox. And i'll most likely keep it even when i get the new flagship this year simply cuz it's beautiful to look at it , talking about screen and design lol.
On a side note Sense 5 is rumored to be MUCH lighter OS then sense 4+ , and if you ask me 4+ is very snappy after jelly bean . maybe with android 5 our battery and snappiness improves. At least it should. And HoX should recieve sense 5 for sure , since OEMS are obligated to give to the users at least 2 major updates . we got 1 , JB , now is time for android 5 Key lime pie Anyway i hope i helped you with this post.
Edit - Since you're considering btw Hox and probably s3 since theres nothing else to chose from with this price range i'll put it simple for you.
If you want better battery go for S3
If you want design , beauty and BUILD quality go for hox.
But the best of all you should do this, go in the store and use both of these and then make up your mind. Before that you might wanna read few reviews about hox and S3 , just remember most of the reviews are based on ICS hox , after jelly bean hox is claimed to be faster then S3 in 90% of the comparable tests heres the link proving it. http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_for_htc_one_x_boosts_performance-news-5010.php
Once again the best thing to do is go in the store and review them both by yourself.
actually if you have thousands of cores, Android phone will still have a bit of lag/stutter. even iOS have it when memory almost full.
This is all dalvik related, and unless Google slowly migrating to other language, the lag/stutter will never be gone. it is all because of unstable frame rate. one time you play a game is smooth, next time it stutters.
So yeah, I am very much happy with my One X. The only reason for me to change phone is because of the design and dev support. Well probably not change, just add my collection. The day Google fix the stutter is the day even dual core is lag free that it doesnt matter what phone you have. because, you see, we have a quad core, but S2 still performs the quite the same. So whats the difference there? I have to admit Samsung made great processor that overshadow the lag, even though i still notice slight lag over time.
anyway, One X design still one of the best. and also, i still have my HTC Desire around to remind how grateful i am to actually have a fast and beautiful one x, because when i go back to Desire, man how slow it is back then but i found it fast before dual core is available.
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I am happy only the problem whith the overheating i have
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I must say that I was a little disappointed when I first got my HOX. Stock ROM doesn't make justice to this device hardware. Right now I'm on AOKP IceColdJelly and can say, for sure, that I coudn't be more satisfied. Custom ROMs unleash the true performance of this phone.
Having had a forced switch to a Nexus 4 as a result of bricking my One X (it was all I could afford), I thought I'd give a few points of comparison. Firstly, I much prefer the 'feel' of the One X. They're both clearly very well made devices, but the material choices in the HOX allow it to both feel classy and be comfortable to hold with the lovely soft-touch back. The Nexus 4 is definitely not as comfortable to hold, and I have complete paranoia about having 2 big glass surfaces to break...
The camera on the One X blows the Nexus 4 out of the water. In fact, the camera on the One X is good enough that you probably wouldn't benefit from carrying a compact digicam around too, so long as you don't need zoom. Especially in low light (thanks to the lovely f/2.0 lens), I would say the camera on the One X is better than the latest Samsung handsets (which use the same sensor lol)... Although it does seem to have a slight tendency to overexpose and blow out highlights in bright daylight (easily corrected with around -1EV exposure compensation) and the default sharpening is a little aggressive - you might see some aliasing on diagonal contrast detail if you don't turn it down a wee bit.
Benchmark performance is obviously better on the N4, but given the margin, I'm surprised (and glad, since I have a Nexus 7 which would feel laggy otherwise) it's not really noticeable in day-to-day use - if anything, the fact that quite a few games are 'Tegra enhanced' makes the One X one of the best phones out there for a gamer, since stuff looks prettier...
Screen quality is very similar between the phones after using a different calibration on the Nexus 4. However, unlike the N4, the out of the box calibration on the One X is surprisingly good and I do miss the screen area 'stolen' by the soft keys on the N4. Both screens are a world apart from any phone I've tried in the past. They both have quite remarkable contrast (which blows my calibrated Dell IPS LCDs out of the water) although they obviously can't match the contrast of an AMOLED. On the other hand, they don't have wacky cartoonishly oversaturated colours like AMOLEDs.
I've been very positive about the HOX here, but I'm afraid to say I don't think I would take a HOX over several other phones if they were offered at similar prices, purely because the battery life wasn't good enough for me (although it may be for you.) Standby life is very good, but you'll be very lucky to get 4 hours screen-on time even with light usage,and even less if you don't like Sense and want to run AOSP/CM. Just browsing the web and watching YouTube, I got over 7 hours out of my N4 yesterday (It's my new baby, I've just been made redundant, have a lot of time to play with it ) That's a pretty significant difference!
h0bnail said:
Thinking about replacing my Infuse. I've read some good things about the One X. Anything else you prefer in the same price range?
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u can say that im adoring my HOX in general, but the battery life worries me all the time (u get around 4 hrs on screen)
i was on ICS and now on JB (THE awesomeness) ..
Gr8 custom ROMs if u r interested (used 2 use Insertcoin but now im on ViperX 3.3.4 ... heck yea) alot of devs r working on this phone
we hope that the new kernel would fix some issues ..
Concerning its design, i think the HOX is truly a Masterpiece ..
It is indeed a Flagship phone ( battery )
I'd say, go 4 it
I am really happy with my One X. Hopefully it will keep me happy for quite some time.
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I'm very happy with my One X . I've unlocked my bootloader on Thursday and now I love my phone even more. Thanks HTC for this great phone:thumbup:
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This phone is great except for the abysmal battery life. I barely get 2 hours of screen time with it, let alone 3 or 4 hours. I use Spotify streaming regularly but this phone can barely last 4 to 5 hrs with that. One other minor problem is the poor sound quality and low volume compared to my previous iPhone 4S. I hope HTC fixes all these quibbles with the M7, or I might head for the iPhone 5s or SGS4.
I'm happy with my one x right now ...it's pretty usable for my daily use...
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