[Q] GPS,Location - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does any one have a problems with location services?
My phone HTC Desire HD,always points my location in 500m to about 1km from the pleace where I am...what do you think?

Are you sure that the gps gets a fix? If it's using only network location it's normal to have that accuracy. Get a gps status app from market and see if you get a proper gps signal fix.

Do you use any kind of cover?
I saw a big improvement, much quicker fix(even indoors) when I took the backcover off. Even though it is a plastic one bought on ebay

Same here. Like if it couldn't read the signal of satellites...

Have you got the same gps issue with others apps which uses gps?

I realized it is b/c of the stupid SFR rom they install on it. Consequently it did not work properly with other programmes either, they couldn't even find GPS signal. After browsing the french forum, I managed to root the phone at last (SFR rom again), so I can test it with another rom soon.
Currently I'm away from home, but I can test it in a week, when I get back to France.

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Intermittent GPS Problem

Hi there.
I've searched for this problem and hadn't found much information, maybe some of you had this problem.
The problem is: The GPS software don't receive signal from the GPS receiver, sometimes 1 (to a max of 3 bars) on the satelitte options of the GPS software go up, but no fix. Other times with no apparent reason it works correctly until it goes out again (from some minutes to some days).
I've tried with this softwares, and the same results:
Tom Tom navigator 7
Garmin XT
Ndrive (don't know the version)
and
NoniGPSPlot (it's not a navitation software but should work to test)
I've tried several ROMs, same results.
I've tried to clean the internal antenna contacts and bend them in a way to make a best contact.
Any guess?
Best Regards.
Have you tried updating the quickgps to get a better fix?
Also where are you running the gps from? (home, outside etc.)
Hi, thanks for your reply.
I've tried that, but I think it wouldn't make wonders anyway. One of the times I was able to put it working, was after updating QuickGPS, but now I see it was a coincidence.
I make most of the tries at a balcony I have in my apartment where I can see about 70% of the sky (it already worked there before).
Any more guesses?
Best Regards.
CidiRome said:
Hi, thanks for your reply.
I've tried that, but I think it wouldn't make wonders anyway. One of the times I was able to put it working, was after updating QuickGPS, but now I see it was a coincidence.
I make most of the tries at a balcony I have in my apartment where I can see about 70% of the sky (it already worked there before).
Any more guesses?
Best Regards.
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Depending on the location, i have realised you have to move around to get a good fix.
If you move around, say around 2 square meter in you balcony you wont be able to get a precise fix as the satellite will think your are still in the same place. Try walking around with it on the road and see if you get any improvements.
if you still have no luck and since you have tried various roms i would suggest you send it for repair?
I thought that it would be better to be still to get a better fix... It seems I'm wrong.
I'm now trying the original ROM from HTC.
BTW, "as the satellite will think your are still in the same place", I thought the GPS system only receives information from the satellites, am I wrong?
Best Regards.
Sorry i meant the gps reciever
Finally I solved the problem.
Sent my Artemis to service
The main board was replaced, now it works as a charm.
Best Regards.

HTC pro2 GPS , help!

Hi guys
I got my first WM phone HTC pro2 recently from Vodafone UK. Everything is good except GPS. I read this forum carefully. I did hard reset, soft reset, set different port and baud, download QuickGPS, I also try some tweaks, buy GPS still not working. when I open Google Maps, clicked the use GPS, after “seeking satellite…” near ten minutes and Google Maps told me I have GPS problem. HTC GPS tool show me GPS signal was 0 and only a red spot on the top of circle. Other GPS programs such as “GPS test” and BeeLineGPS had same result like HTC GPS tool. Open Garmin, always said “searching satellite …” and Tomtom told me “Poor GPS receptions—are you inside the building?”
My questions are, based your guys experience what happened? It is hardware problem or the setting’s problem? When you guys talking about the GPS cannot get fix, do you have GPS signal on the GPS program (like signal strength, some red and green spots on the circle etc)? If I flash hard-SPL and other Radio Rom can resolve my problem? Are there other solutions? Warranty.
I used destinator 7 on a small trip, and was able to work.
However, looking at the settings screen where the signal for each satellite was displayed, I cannot say I am impressed. The signal strength was extremely low...
Can you install destinator and try also yourself?
Apologies if this is very basic, but I assume you are outside with a clear view of the sky when trying it out?
sparobin said:
Hi guys
I got my first WM phone HTC pro2 recently from Vodafone UK. Everything is good except GPS. I read this forum carefully. I did hard reset, soft reset, set different port and baud, download QuickGPS, I also try some tweaks, buy GPS still not working. when I open Google Maps, clicked the use GPS, after “seeking satellite…” near ten minutes and Google Maps told me I have GPS problem. HTC GPS tool show me GPS signal was 0 and only a red spot on the top of circle. Other GPS programs such as “GPS test” and BeeLineGPS had same result like HTC GPS tool. Open Garmin, always said “searching satellite …” and Tomtom told me “Poor GPS receptions—are you inside the building?”
My questions are, based your guys experience what happened? It is hardware problem or the setting’s problem? When you guys talking about the GPS cannot get fix, do you have GPS signal on the GPS program (like signal strength, some red and green spots on the circle etc)? If I flash hard-SPL and other Radio Rom can resolve my problem? Are there other solutions? Warranty.
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yes , i am in open field, far away from building, several times, more than 40 minutes. thanks I will try it. but I am wondering why signal strength is 0. low strength, hard to fix and no signal strength is totally diferent issue, i guess.
I am proposing the destinator, because it has a function that detects the port & some settings of the gps...
I am on Sprint in the US, but this worked for me. I am not sure if you did this.
If you have TouchFlo enabled go to the Settings Tab, then go to All Settings.
In the all settings, click the Personal then click Phone. In there click GSM/UMTS services (I am assuming you have a GSM phone, I don't know). Select Location Setting and then Get settings. Make sure it is turned on.
Then this part you said you did, but I will tell you my settings anyway. Go back to the all settings. Now go to system and then external gps. Then go to programs and select COM port 9. Under hardware it should be None and the baud rate is 4800. Then under access check the box to have manage gps enabled.
Now, when you use google maps, go to the settings in google maps and click gps settings. Change the option from let windows mobile manage my gps to manual and pick com 9 and 4800.
Then enable the gps and get a clear view of the sky and see if it works. It might take about 20 seconds for it to get some satellites the first time.
Did you notice there is a firmware update to enahnce gps fixes? Might be worth giving it a try
Thanks all.
there is not locaiton at setting, personal, phone , services.
this phone is vodafone branded, i think I need hard-SPL first to flash firmware.
sparobin said:
Thanks all.
there is not locaiton at setting, personal, phone , services.
this phone is vodafone branded, i think I need hard-SPL first to flash firmware.
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Hi,
I have been experiencing the same problem. Have read many posts. It normally happens when phone your phone displays H or 3G. For some reason the triangulation and the Gps stops working.
Try it when you have E or G showing on the phone it will work like a charm.
This is my second TP2 first one never had a problem and was vodafone branded as well. Will try and find a solution and will let you know. I have tried different radios though!
Hi
I had the same issue with my T mobile branded TP2. Sometimes (after houres) I had a fix and then it dropped again. I discovered that when you switch WIFI off, it all works like charm. WIFI somehow jams the GPS receiver.
Same Issue
I have the Sprint Touch Pro2 and have tried every patch available, several registry edits, different settings and quick GPS settings to get my GPS running properly. Just before my 30 day return/refund period had almost lapsed I decided to exchange my device. Sprint tried to talk me into some drawn out process of dealing with advanced tech support and starting a ticket on the issue which would have gone way beyond my 30 day period to exchange the phone. To make a short story long, exchanging the phone couldn't have been more convenient and upon setting up Quick GPS and trying out the installed Live Search application, my phone found 9 satelites within seconds. I guess it was the device. Just a cautionary tale that if you think you've tried everything to get your GPS working, there's no harm in getting another Touch Pro2.

GPS Problem - all of a sudden it won't fix

Hi all,
I have some sort of problem with the GPS. Last Saturday it suddenly wouldn't get a fix at all. I tried taking the battery out and rebooting and still no joy. Then suddenly on Monday it started working again. I was on a flight on Wednesday and it worked on the flight too. About 2 hours later, I was on a train and again, no joy but put it down to maybe some strange coating on the glass. However, I tried again yesterday while out in my car and not a dickybird.
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
championc said:
Hi all,
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
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Having the same sort of issue with GPS on WM6.5... HTC are (well should be) working on but they have so far sent a gps test cab in the last month... which was useless... like you it will work great one minute then 'acquiring satellites' for ages... unless you have dropped and damaged radio would put the tools away for the moment as looks like software related (how WM6.5 manages GPS lock) that is the problem
I've never had a problem before and i've used it both at home and abroad. I'd use it a couple of times every week.
C
People have said upgrading the radio helped or used the GPS hotfix from HTC... Did this myself recently and must admit it seemed to fix the problem...
I'm running Energy ROM 23557 Sense 2.5 Maxmanilla.
ultramag69 said:
People have said upgrading the radio helped or used the GPS hotfix from HTC... .
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Thought the GPS hotfix on HTC site was for 6.1... so it works on 6.5 as well?...was going to flash the lastest europe 6.5 (with sense 2.5) it has a later radio but have read messaging is slow for some people, as waiting for HTC to fix on Telstra 6.5 is painful
championc said:
Hi all,
I have some sort of problem with the GPS. Last Saturday it suddenly wouldn't get a fix at all. I tried taking the battery out and rebooting and still no joy. Then suddenly on Monday it started working again. I was on a flight on Wednesday and it worked on the flight too. About 2 hours later, I was on a train and again, no joy but put it down to maybe some strange coating on the glass. However, I tried again yesterday while out in my car and not a dickybird.
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
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When you say you can't get a lock, is this in just one particular app, or have you tried multiple GPS-enabled apps? You may need to determine if the device actually isn't seeing any sats, or if your app just isn't playing nice with the com port anymore.
THIS LINK is for Chartcross' GPS Test (free), it can at least tell you if your hardware is getting a lock independent of any nav apps.
Excellent - exactly what I was looking for. I'll test the Chartcross software on the way home tonight.
C
OK, I've got a Yellow circle and it says "GPS Starting up" so obviously doesn't even start to pull down data
Any ideas on what I can do ? Could there be a loose connection somewhere inside the phone ?
C
championc said:
OK, I've got a Yellow circle and it says "GPS Starting up" so obviously doesn't even start to pull down data
Any ideas on what I can do ? Could there be a loose connection somewhere inside the phone ?
C
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Did you see it scan through the com ports when it started up? The next thing I would check is the settings (settings-all settings-system-external GPS) and see what it says on the "programs" and "access" tabs
The GPS hardware is a chip that's soldered to the motherboard, so I doubt that's come "loose"...the only other hardware connection that comes into play is the one to whatever antenna the GPS utilizes, but I honestly don't know if uses the same one as the phone/data, or if the chip itself is just a fully integrated receiver
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
championc said:
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
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If it was seeing any sats, there would be bars in the screen, like the screenshot on their site...so yes it def looks like the phone isn't locking at all. Just to be sure, is your QuickGPS data up to date?
I'd say the next step to try before trying to crack your case open would be to follow ultramag's suggestion and flash to a different radio...some users report drastic improvements in GPS performance after taking that step
championc said:
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
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How long did you wait? I've noticed that it can take up to 10-15 minutes before it'll lock all of them in and turn green. Are the bars moving at all?
Was running over 30 mins and stayed yellow. Bars never budged. I've had the same radio for the past 6 months at least so can't see why it would suddenly become a problem now.
Looks like my only option might be to open it up and check the connections. Everyone drops their phones now and again and I'm no different so there's every possibility of something having come loose.
Has anyone got a photo of the inside so I know what I'm looking for ? Where is the GPS ?
C
com 4 is correct as is 9600 baud. Likely the issue is with the radio you are using. T Mobile radios seem quite touchy. Try a new radio and see what you get. Start gps test first, get the gps running and locked before opening any program that needs gps to work and you likely will have better performance.
championc said:
Was running over 30 mins and stayed yellow. Bars never budged. I've had the same radio for the past 6 months at least so can't see why it would suddenly become a problem now.
Looks like my only option might be to open it up and check the connections. Everyone drops their phones now and again and I'm no different so there's every possibility of something having come loose.
Has anyone got a photo of the inside so I know what I'm looking for ? Where is the GPS ?
C
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mine was working fine and like you was doubting my hardware... seems strange as my issues started with a software update ...some telcos (Telstra in AU) software conflicts with GPS... I installed a HTC rom from Europe yesterday and GPS is now working great... even now locks while car is in garage.. the HTC Desire just released in AU is also having GPS issues on Telstra 6.5 rom ... so have you tried a rom update? as sounds like may be your issue as well...
I'm running Deepshining Rom X6. I had the previous v12RC running since it was released with no problems. I had radio 4.49.25.17 running all the time but just decided to up this to 4.49.25.77 but still no change. It still says "GPS Starting Up". I must have some sort of loose connection since it wouldn't work last Saturday or Sunday but then worked fine on Monday and Wednesday. However, it hasn't worked again since last Wednesday.
C
I just opened up my TP2. Is the GPS chip just to the left of the Camera ? (on the right is the Speaker)
C

Differences in GPS accuracy in radio versions?

Hi,
I'm currently on radio version Radio_12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test running CoreDroid Desire HD V4.6.
As I'm using my phone for Geocaching, I'm not very happy with the GPS accuracy.
My /system/etc/gps.conf is set to NTP_SERVER=europe.pool.ntp.org.
I've tried the usual reset and download A-GPS using GPS Status, and I get a fix pretty quick.
When I go Geocaching my friend with an iPhone4 (!) has a much more accurate GPS. I miss my target with 10 m.
So my question is, are there any differences in the GPS accuracy in the different Radio versions?
BR,
C
crusher88 said:
Hi,
I'm currently on radio version Radio_12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test running CoreDroid Desire HD V4.6.
As I'm using my phone for Geocaching, I'm not very happy with the GPS accuracy.
My /system/etc/gps.conf is set to NTP_SERVER=europe.pool.ntp.org.
I've tried the usual reset and download A-GPS using GPS Status, and I get a fix pretty quick.
When I go Geocaching my friend with an iPhone4 (!) has a much more accurate GPS. I miss my target with 10 m.
So my question is, are there any differences in the GPS accuracy in the different Radio versions?
BR,
C
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I think the only way to answer this question is to suggest that you try different radios and see what works best for you.
The success or failure of the radio depends on so many factors.... where you live, carrier, rom, signal strengths, etc, etc..... and also on what you are looking for from the radio ie battery life, phone signal, gps signal, etc.
There is no definitive answer!
Some days ago I struggled with some GPS troubles too.
It took me quite a while to figure this out but it is well reproducible on my DHD (everything performed outside, for sure):
GPS from the radio 12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2 from WWE 1.72 or the 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test radio behave like this: When you start GPS status for the first time after boot the DHD starts to fix one satellite after another and then keep them ALL fixed. When you now quit GPS Status and restart it the DHD starts to fix satellites again but then lose some of them just to fix them again a second later or so, then loses some of them again and so on. Sometimes you then have just 3 or 4 satellites fixed. The only way for me to get rid of this strange behavior is to make a cold restart then GPS status is fine again for the first start, but after restarting GPS Status same again.
When I use the radio from the 1.32 WWE this does not appear after restarting GPS Status, it always fixes as much satellites as possible and KEEP them CONSTANTLY fixed (here in Austria regularly around 9). When I use my DHD for car nav I don’t care too much about it but I guess this might play a rule when you use it for geocaching (and need more accuracy, which is provided by more fixed satellites, if I am not wrong) … hope that helps a little bit.
This is the Desire HD's only flaw, the GPS. Well for me anyway.
You can get it working to a point. And i think all the guys cooking ROMs have got this right now.
For example i am running CM7 RC4 and i can now always get a lock but it bounces a lot. What i mean is, take google maps for example, the GPS locks, and almost never loses the lock now, but the circle that fixes your position on the map is constantly on you then way off you all the time. So it knows that you are 'somewhere there'. which for a GPS in an urban area 'somewhere there', anything from 10m - 500m, is not good enough.
In reality it is not very good at all and is very disappoint as the big screen makes using maps a big plus
I have given up on trying to get this to work now. My Desire contract is up for renewal soon so i will get another phone and at this point an HTC phone may not be my next phone. HTC has mostly great build quality but they don't seem to care if the phone features work or not. Which is sad because if they addresses this issure, and its been the same for a good while now, they would be the the best phone for sure.
Personally i think that they could do better with the camera and GPS, the hardware.
Oh and i have also tried many different radios.

[Q] [observation & Q] ER3BUS XL3.6 possible Mobile Network issue

Hi everybody,
upgraded to ER3BUS XL3.6 and had a great experience so far. However, there is one observation I have so far, and may not be the ROM at all, just wondering if somebody else came across it.
Occasionally, while having 5 bars reception the mobile network does not seem to work. Sometimes it indicates 'G' (GPRS only I believe) so I expect slow network, but it does not seem to work at all. Other times there is no mobile network indicator, so I though the carrier had an issue, however restarting the phone seems to fix it, ie the indicator shows G/E/3G after the restart, same location at my desk at work. This leads me to believe, that something in the phone/ROM stops.
As I said, just a suspicion, no proof, don't know where to look to find out. Does not happen all that often (once/twice a day).
Any suggestion in where to find relevant log files to look through AND WHAT to look for appreciated. I am a WINDOWS man (there, I have said it ), trying to get into Android .
Thanks
KORE

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