Hi,
I'm currently on radio version Radio_12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test running CoreDroid Desire HD V4.6.
As I'm using my phone for Geocaching, I'm not very happy with the GPS accuracy.
My /system/etc/gps.conf is set to NTP_SERVER=europe.pool.ntp.org.
I've tried the usual reset and download A-GPS using GPS Status, and I get a fix pretty quick.
When I go Geocaching my friend with an iPhone4 (!) has a much more accurate GPS. I miss my target with 10 m.
So my question is, are there any differences in the GPS accuracy in the different Radio versions?
BR,
C
crusher88 said:
Hi,
I'm currently on radio version Radio_12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test running CoreDroid Desire HD V4.6.
As I'm using my phone for Geocaching, I'm not very happy with the GPS accuracy.
My /system/etc/gps.conf is set to NTP_SERVER=europe.pool.ntp.org.
I've tried the usual reset and download A-GPS using GPS Status, and I get a fix pretty quick.
When I go Geocaching my friend with an iPhone4 (!) has a much more accurate GPS. I miss my target with 10 m.
So my question is, are there any differences in the GPS accuracy in the different Radio versions?
BR,
C
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I think the only way to answer this question is to suggest that you try different radios and see what works best for you.
The success or failure of the radio depends on so many factors.... where you live, carrier, rom, signal strengths, etc, etc..... and also on what you are looking for from the radio ie battery life, phone signal, gps signal, etc.
There is no definitive answer!
Some days ago I struggled with some GPS troubles too.
It took me quite a while to figure this out but it is well reproducible on my DHD (everything performed outside, for sure):
GPS from the radio 12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2 from WWE 1.72 or the 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test radio behave like this: When you start GPS status for the first time after boot the DHD starts to fix one satellite after another and then keep them ALL fixed. When you now quit GPS Status and restart it the DHD starts to fix satellites again but then lose some of them just to fix them again a second later or so, then loses some of them again and so on. Sometimes you then have just 3 or 4 satellites fixed. The only way for me to get rid of this strange behavior is to make a cold restart then GPS status is fine again for the first start, but after restarting GPS Status same again.
When I use the radio from the 1.32 WWE this does not appear after restarting GPS Status, it always fixes as much satellites as possible and KEEP them CONSTANTLY fixed (here in Austria regularly around 9). When I use my DHD for car nav I don’t care too much about it but I guess this might play a rule when you use it for geocaching (and need more accuracy, which is provided by more fixed satellites, if I am not wrong) … hope that helps a little bit.
This is the Desire HD's only flaw, the GPS. Well for me anyway.
You can get it working to a point. And i think all the guys cooking ROMs have got this right now.
For example i am running CM7 RC4 and i can now always get a lock but it bounces a lot. What i mean is, take google maps for example, the GPS locks, and almost never loses the lock now, but the circle that fixes your position on the map is constantly on you then way off you all the time. So it knows that you are 'somewhere there'. which for a GPS in an urban area 'somewhere there', anything from 10m - 500m, is not good enough.
In reality it is not very good at all and is very disappoint as the big screen makes using maps a big plus
I have given up on trying to get this to work now. My Desire contract is up for renewal soon so i will get another phone and at this point an HTC phone may not be my next phone. HTC has mostly great build quality but they don't seem to care if the phone features work or not. Which is sad because if they addresses this issure, and its been the same for a good while now, they would be the the best phone for sure.
Personally i think that they could do better with the camera and GPS, the hardware.
Oh and i have also tried many different radios.
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Hi there.
I've searched for this problem and hadn't found much information, maybe some of you had this problem.
The problem is: The GPS software don't receive signal from the GPS receiver, sometimes 1 (to a max of 3 bars) on the satelitte options of the GPS software go up, but no fix. Other times with no apparent reason it works correctly until it goes out again (from some minutes to some days).
I've tried with this softwares, and the same results:
Tom Tom navigator 7
Garmin XT
Ndrive (don't know the version)
and
NoniGPSPlot (it's not a navitation software but should work to test)
I've tried several ROMs, same results.
I've tried to clean the internal antenna contacts and bend them in a way to make a best contact.
Any guess?
Best Regards.
Have you tried updating the quickgps to get a better fix?
Also where are you running the gps from? (home, outside etc.)
Hi, thanks for your reply.
I've tried that, but I think it wouldn't make wonders anyway. One of the times I was able to put it working, was after updating QuickGPS, but now I see it was a coincidence.
I make most of the tries at a balcony I have in my apartment where I can see about 70% of the sky (it already worked there before).
Any more guesses?
Best Regards.
CidiRome said:
Hi, thanks for your reply.
I've tried that, but I think it wouldn't make wonders anyway. One of the times I was able to put it working, was after updating QuickGPS, but now I see it was a coincidence.
I make most of the tries at a balcony I have in my apartment where I can see about 70% of the sky (it already worked there before).
Any more guesses?
Best Regards.
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Depending on the location, i have realised you have to move around to get a good fix.
If you move around, say around 2 square meter in you balcony you wont be able to get a precise fix as the satellite will think your are still in the same place. Try walking around with it on the road and see if you get any improvements.
if you still have no luck and since you have tried various roms i would suggest you send it for repair?
I thought that it would be better to be still to get a better fix... It seems I'm wrong.
I'm now trying the original ROM from HTC.
BTW, "as the satellite will think your are still in the same place", I thought the GPS system only receives information from the satellites, am I wrong?
Best Regards.
Sorry i meant the gps reciever
Finally I solved the problem.
Sent my Artemis to service
The main board was replaced, now it works as a charm.
Best Regards.
first we are sad that a cople of users are against us!
For this reason we are stopping with the project.
we want to help the communitie but some people dont want to help to this and want to block this kind of users.
some people are making there own c# code but we work in vb.net so it isnt possible they can view the sourche code from the application.
i hope you all will accept this and to the users that cant get there gps working now we are sorry maby we are back in the future
FAQ Becose it is needed
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Here is a youtube vid.
The video was taking inside a building and with the patch we got a good signal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j8ylsb1Qtc
the picture is also taking inside.
Last one
Last one
That is wonderfull!
Soon as I recieve my Rhodium I´ll install it
Thanks!
What is the fix for?
What problem is this patch supposed to address? Slow/intermittent GPS lock, Lag, or some other problem?
As far as I can see it is simply an animated GIF set to display during boot and changing some registry entries relating to the GPS intermediate driver and increasing the file system cache.
Tom
aarrodri said:
What is the fix for?
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I adjusted the post.
frogfoot said:
What problem is this patch supposed to address? Slow/intermittent GPS lock, Lag, or some other problem?
As far as I can see it is simply an animated GIF set to display during boot and changing some registry entries relating to the GPS intermediate driver and increasing the file system cache.
Tom
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yes tom,
the reason i added the gps is that the stupid microsoft visual studio wont allow to build cab files with out a file in it.
it indeed adjust a couple of registry settings but if you do it in the way it is writen above you get a gps fix,
It is for the
lag problem, getting no gps signal in any way.
i even get gps in house now
greats antonius
I have a fix with out this in 3 sec in mine house with google maps.(5sat.)
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I have a fix with out this in 3 sec in mine house with google maps.(5sat.)
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it is for people with problems
Stuck while it's a hot topic.
Dave
Do you know if T-Mobile TP2s need the new radio driver, or is the included radio up-to-date?
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Do you know if T-Mobile TP2s need the new radio driver, or is the included radio up-to-date?
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if yours works out of the box, don't patch it.
mine is Tmo TP2 and get almost instant sat lock, so I am not going to patch mine for now.
That's the radio version I have. What does the cab file do? Does it automatically change the registry settings for the GPS Intermediate driver? If so, I have made those changes and I still get GPS lag.
gps lag
i work at a auto repair shop and on occasion i get the oppurtunity to drive a customers car that has a dedicated gps. what i have noticed is that the lag time with those dedicated units and my old touch diamond and touch pro is that the lag time is about the same. i have not tested it with my current phone (tp2)just yet but it seems about the same maybe a little faster. imho i think it has something to do with the lag time with the gps signal having to travel so far. if we think about it, the signal has to travel out into space and then back down. things no matter how fast are not instantaneous.
btw i love this phone. i just typed all this on my tp2! great keyboard.
just my two cents
GPS is another reason I miss my HTC Dream. It was fast and worked indoors. SO far, I see no improvement with this radio and .cab. Of course, I already had an alleged GPS fix with a different radio (3.44.25.27 +A-GPS hot fix). I will test outside now. So far nothing indoors. update: well... it does seem to pick up faster outside now. good fix! not great but a bit better than before. good find!
This Fix works great in my TP2...
Question: Installed but my free program down 6MB..? BTW I'm using Miri V 1.1 Manila 2.5
Edit: My Garmin 5.00.20w works better than my TyTNII... It locks inside my house within 5 second.. More amazing in my bed room which I never get any GPS signal... Antonius .. Genius...
testaccount said:
if yours works out of the box, don't patch it.
mine is Tmo TP2 and get almost instant sat lock, so I am not going to patch mine for now.
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Sadly, mine's not working un-patched. TeleNav and Google Maps both are having a hard time getting satelite locks, indoors and out, moving and stationary
|Blitzkrieg| said:
Sadly, mine's not working un-patched. TeleNav and Google Maps both are having a hard time getting satelite locks, indoors and out, moving and stationary
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download the new program that i just put online.
and try it again.
p.s. did you update your radio rom ?
Hi guys
I got my first WM phone HTC pro2 recently from Vodafone UK. Everything is good except GPS. I read this forum carefully. I did hard reset, soft reset, set different port and baud, download QuickGPS, I also try some tweaks, buy GPS still not working. when I open Google Maps, clicked the use GPS, after “seeking satellite…” near ten minutes and Google Maps told me I have GPS problem. HTC GPS tool show me GPS signal was 0 and only a red spot on the top of circle. Other GPS programs such as “GPS test” and BeeLineGPS had same result like HTC GPS tool. Open Garmin, always said “searching satellite …” and Tomtom told me “Poor GPS receptions—are you inside the building?”
My questions are, based your guys experience what happened? It is hardware problem or the setting’s problem? When you guys talking about the GPS cannot get fix, do you have GPS signal on the GPS program (like signal strength, some red and green spots on the circle etc)? If I flash hard-SPL and other Radio Rom can resolve my problem? Are there other solutions? Warranty.
I used destinator 7 on a small trip, and was able to work.
However, looking at the settings screen where the signal for each satellite was displayed, I cannot say I am impressed. The signal strength was extremely low...
Can you install destinator and try also yourself?
Apologies if this is very basic, but I assume you are outside with a clear view of the sky when trying it out?
sparobin said:
Hi guys
I got my first WM phone HTC pro2 recently from Vodafone UK. Everything is good except GPS. I read this forum carefully. I did hard reset, soft reset, set different port and baud, download QuickGPS, I also try some tweaks, buy GPS still not working. when I open Google Maps, clicked the use GPS, after “seeking satellite…” near ten minutes and Google Maps told me I have GPS problem. HTC GPS tool show me GPS signal was 0 and only a red spot on the top of circle. Other GPS programs such as “GPS test” and BeeLineGPS had same result like HTC GPS tool. Open Garmin, always said “searching satellite …” and Tomtom told me “Poor GPS receptions—are you inside the building?”
My questions are, based your guys experience what happened? It is hardware problem or the setting’s problem? When you guys talking about the GPS cannot get fix, do you have GPS signal on the GPS program (like signal strength, some red and green spots on the circle etc)? If I flash hard-SPL and other Radio Rom can resolve my problem? Are there other solutions? Warranty.
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yes , i am in open field, far away from building, several times, more than 40 minutes. thanks I will try it. but I am wondering why signal strength is 0. low strength, hard to fix and no signal strength is totally diferent issue, i guess.
I am proposing the destinator, because it has a function that detects the port & some settings of the gps...
I am on Sprint in the US, but this worked for me. I am not sure if you did this.
If you have TouchFlo enabled go to the Settings Tab, then go to All Settings.
In the all settings, click the Personal then click Phone. In there click GSM/UMTS services (I am assuming you have a GSM phone, I don't know). Select Location Setting and then Get settings. Make sure it is turned on.
Then this part you said you did, but I will tell you my settings anyway. Go back to the all settings. Now go to system and then external gps. Then go to programs and select COM port 9. Under hardware it should be None and the baud rate is 4800. Then under access check the box to have manage gps enabled.
Now, when you use google maps, go to the settings in google maps and click gps settings. Change the option from let windows mobile manage my gps to manual and pick com 9 and 4800.
Then enable the gps and get a clear view of the sky and see if it works. It might take about 20 seconds for it to get some satellites the first time.
Did you notice there is a firmware update to enahnce gps fixes? Might be worth giving it a try
Thanks all.
there is not locaiton at setting, personal, phone , services.
this phone is vodafone branded, i think I need hard-SPL first to flash firmware.
sparobin said:
Thanks all.
there is not locaiton at setting, personal, phone , services.
this phone is vodafone branded, i think I need hard-SPL first to flash firmware.
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Hi,
I have been experiencing the same problem. Have read many posts. It normally happens when phone your phone displays H or 3G. For some reason the triangulation and the Gps stops working.
Try it when you have E or G showing on the phone it will work like a charm.
This is my second TP2 first one never had a problem and was vodafone branded as well. Will try and find a solution and will let you know. I have tried different radios though!
Hi
I had the same issue with my T mobile branded TP2. Sometimes (after houres) I had a fix and then it dropped again. I discovered that when you switch WIFI off, it all works like charm. WIFI somehow jams the GPS receiver.
Same Issue
I have the Sprint Touch Pro2 and have tried every patch available, several registry edits, different settings and quick GPS settings to get my GPS running properly. Just before my 30 day return/refund period had almost lapsed I decided to exchange my device. Sprint tried to talk me into some drawn out process of dealing with advanced tech support and starting a ticket on the issue which would have gone way beyond my 30 day period to exchange the phone. To make a short story long, exchanging the phone couldn't have been more convenient and upon setting up Quick GPS and trying out the installed Live Search application, my phone found 9 satelites within seconds. I guess it was the device. Just a cautionary tale that if you think you've tried everything to get your GPS working, there's no harm in getting another Touch Pro2.
Hello together,
i have my desire now since nearly two month. Im relly happy with the phone. But one problem:
GPS is not working, i don't get a GPS fix.
It didn't work as I had the phone completely new neither now after i rooted it. I already tried a couple of different radios but my phone doesn't find any satelites.
Does anybody else has the problem? Is this just a software bug or is the hardware damaged?
If I have to send it back to HTC, do you know how long does it take till i get my phone back? Im based in germany.
Thank you very much for your help!
best regards
Tom
I only have my desire 2 days now, it has a orange uk branded phone, so I unbranded it to a stock htc rom, and I have the same problem as you, it takes ages to lock a gps signal.
Today it took 30minutes to lock the gps signal on my ndrive.
I don't have a problem with my GPS on my Orange debranded Desire, what ROM are you debranding with?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I use this one because of the portuguese language:
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
Do you use any program to help catch the gps signal?
Regards
I lost mine with a radio update, had to use 32.30.00.28U_405.00.11 to get GPS working again. Which radio do you have?
NDrive has problems locking with the Desire's GPS. Launch NDrive, press home button, enable the GPS and goto NDrive again. That works for me most of the times.
Or use Google Maps to get a fix and then launch NDrive.
panosx said:
NDrive has problems locking with the Desire's GPS. Launch NDrive, press home button, enable the GPS and goto NDrive again. That works for me most of the times.
Or use Google Maps to get a fix and then launch NDrive.
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Thanks, i will try that, as soon as I can I will report if it works.
Thanks again
I tried it with these radios:
32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2
32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04
And with none of them I got GPS fix.
I tried it also with differnt applications:
Google Maps
Navigon
GPS Status
GPS Test
But without success, no GPS fix at all
Oh by the way, i tried it also with the Stock ROM and with OpenDesire 1.4 and OpenDesire 1.5
€: I use now OpenDesire 2.1 with the newest Radio 32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08
I still don't have any chance to find a satelite. Has anyone an idea to fix the problem?
i don't know if it's allowed on this board, i just wanted to push my message to the first page, after it was now on page 15. Perhaps anyone has an idea about fixing the problem.
Thank you!
All that worked for me was trying the radio I had originally (before I started playing around). You tried any of the older ones?
Hi,
I also now have a problem with GPS fix. First I have overheating & reboot problem, then MB were replaced & now I can't get fix (no satellites at view at all). I hope that this is software related (although I do not use GPS much). So probably somebody knew how to perform cold reboot of GPS sensor (I perform this with previous Touch Diamond to bring GPS back to life)?
Does any one have a problems with location services?
My phone HTC Desire HD,always points my location in 500m to about 1km from the pleace where I am...what do you think?
Are you sure that the gps gets a fix? If it's using only network location it's normal to have that accuracy. Get a gps status app from market and see if you get a proper gps signal fix.
Do you use any kind of cover?
I saw a big improvement, much quicker fix(even indoors) when I took the backcover off. Even though it is a plastic one bought on ebay
Same here. Like if it couldn't read the signal of satellites...
Have you got the same gps issue with others apps which uses gps?
I realized it is b/c of the stupid SFR rom they install on it. Consequently it did not work properly with other programmes either, they couldn't even find GPS signal. After browsing the french forum, I managed to root the phone at last (SFR rom again), so I can test it with another rom soon.
Currently I'm away from home, but I can test it in a week, when I get back to France.