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GPS Aides/Reg Hacks/Utilities/"Fast Fixers"

OK, so I have been reading a lot on the gps capabilities of the vogue, and have seen a lot of things out there like the virser gps dll, reg-hacks, gps kick-start, quick-gps, mmeto, and different gps drivers that can all supposedly change the speed at which the gps can get a lock. on a thread over at xda tabout the quickgps one, they were able to get fixes/locks after only about 20-40 seconds! thats the kind of thing we all need...
there is definitely an awful lot of stuff about it, and i have grown pretty confused i must say. i have a sprint vogue and would REALLY like faster connection times.
if there is ANYONE who has some consolidated facts and real numbers/evidence about what (combination) works best, i would greatly apprecaite it, as im sure would many many others.
even though you may have the urge, plz do not post here for at least 1-2 days if you do not have some good evidence/clear consice instructions on how to improve gps signal quality.
thanks a lot guys!,
Jim.
EDIT: FOUND THE ULTIMATE FIX!! look here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=26410 difference is incredible

i'm using the stock "leaked" ROM for 2+ days without the virser gps dll and without any of the GPS hacks. with Garmin Mobile XT using the GPS Intermediate Driver, i get locks on 7-9 satellites within 30-45 seconds when outside and within 120 seconds when inside. on the flip-side, when using iGO 2006+ with COM 4, it takes 3-6 minutes to get a satellite lock. i used my Sprint Touch to capture this pic on a "recent" west-to-east coast flight....notice the number in the lower left hand corner

I'm using a rom I cooked with the new 3.0x kitchen I cooked using ppcgeeks kitchen ... it's based on the same "leaked" rom .. just customized for me ... anyway ... I get the same kind of lock times listed above ... I use an old version of mapopolis when I travel and google maps while in town (no data connection 5 miles outside of town ... I live in the great wild west ... ya know ... lots of wide open spaces .. LOL) anyway, with google maps I get about 3-5 yards accuracy ... with mapopolis ... maybe a little better ... but always 6-9 satelites ... and no hacks ... I do use htc quick gps ... seems to help
Fuzzy

cortezzi said:
i'm using the stock "leaked" ROM for 2+ days without the virser gps dll and without any of the GPS hacks. with Garmin Mobile XT using the GPS Intermediate Driver, i get locks on 7-9 satellites within 30-45 seconds when outside and within 120 seconds when inside. on the flip-side, when using iGO 2006+ with COM 4, it takes 3-6 minutes to get a satellite lock. i used my Sprint Touch to capture this pic on a "recent" west-to-east coast flight....notice the number in the lower left hand corner
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hmm ok thanks a lot for your detailed response. care to attach/point me to the "GPS Intermediate Driver"? so i can see if that might help out my situation, because i am certainly not getting anything like 7-9 locks within 45 seconds.
also, is this on cold or soft boot/start of gps?

FuzzyWuzHe said:
I'm using a rom I cooked with the new 3.0x kitchen I cooked using ppcgeeks kitchen ... it's based on the same "leaked" rom .. just customized for me ... anyway ... I get the same kind of lock times listed above ... I use an old version of mapopolis when I travel and google maps while in town (no data connection 5 miles outside of town ... I live in the great wild west ... ya know ... lots of wide open spaces .. LOL) anyway, with google maps I get about 3-5 yards accuracy ... with mapopolis ... maybe a little better ... but always 6-9 satelites ... and no hacks ... I do use htc quick gps ... seems to help
Fuzzy
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hmm ok right i see. thanks. i recently cooked a rom (which i have done plenty of times) but with the newest ppckitchen.org kitchen for the vogue, and it is SOOOO SLOW so im not sure if thats what im going to keep using.

cortezzi said:
i'm using the stock "leaked" ROM for 2+ days without the virser gps dll and without any of the GPS hacks. with Garmin Mobile XT using the GPS Intermediate Driver, i get locks on 7-9 satellites within 30-45 seconds when outside and within 120 seconds when inside. on the flip-side, when using iGO 2006+ with COM 4, it takes 3-6 minutes to get a satellite lock. i used my Sprint Touch to capture this pic on a "recent" west-to-east coast flight....notice the number in the lower left hand corner
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When you use Garmin on the GPS Intermediate Driver, don't you get the time/date reset problem? The only time I don't get that problem is when I have it set to COM4. Its really annoying lol.

mindfrost82 said:
When you use Garmin on the GPS Intermediate Driver, don't you get the time/date reset problem? The only time I don't get that problem is when I have it set to COM4. Its really annoying lol.
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i ran into the time/date issue once with the GPS Intermediate Driver (GPSID) when i lost the signal going into an underground parking structure. everytime i attempt to set GPS to COM 4, GM XT searches and searches and searches and seems to never connect. GM XT then defaults back to the GPSID. funny you mention the GPSID-time/date relationship: today, for the first time in 5 months, i ran into the same date/time issue today while using my Samsung BJ II. i'm inclined to believe the recent XT updates introduced this problem.
@jim256 - the GPS Intermediate Driver (GPSID) is (as i understand it) a native WinMo 6.0 driver that included with our respective Touch devices.

Cold start times are always going to be slow. That's why the GPStoday plugin is such a valuable addition! If you haven't tried it yet, you need to take a look at it...

jim256 said:
hmm ok right i see. thanks. i recently cooked a rom (which i have done plenty of times) but with the newest ppckitchen.org kitchen for the vogue, and it is SOOOO SLOW so im not sure if thats what im going to keep using.
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Run the updater and get the Vogue 3.0x Kitchen ... I cooked a ROM that is smokin fast ... gps works great ... I put dcd's uc module in the user section ... all in all it's the best rom I've had ...
Now if only the Vogue had a flash ... would truely love to have a flashlight in my phone ... hehehehe

FuzzyWuzHe said:
Run the updater and get the Vogue 3.0x Kitchen ... I cooked a ROM that is smokin fast ... gps works great ... I put dcd's uc module in the user section ... all in all it's the best rom I've had ...
Now if only the Vogue had a flash ... would truely love to have a flashlight in my phone ... hehehehe
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ya i had it all updated, and was of course using the 3.x kitchen. but i tried it again and all seems well now. either i put something bad in, or didnt hard reset after flashing. but o well im good to go now
thx anyway.

see edit in first post!!

does it really take this long to find a satellite on the vogue? my titan locks in under 5seconds!

t0mmyr said:
does it really take this long to find a satellite on the vogue? my titan locks in under 5seconds!
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see the first post edit, after performing the necessary steps to update the pri it locks in about 5 seconds...

Telus Vogue Update finally here!

So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096

by setting GPSMode to 4 you disable the GPS. Not the best idea....
GPSMode 1 = ONLY pure GPS
GPSMode 2 = GPS + aGPS
GPSMode 4 = aGPS only

Got it installed without any issues. However Google maps and the Telus Navigator programs don't seem to be able to find the GPS... Well, to be more precise, googlemaps doesn't give an error. It just sits there seeking satellites. The Telus NAV doesn't get past the startup screen. Any suggestions?
WM6.1 is working fine on my phone but is it possible that I actually don't have the built in GPS even though it is a Telus HTC Touch?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31437

guardianfox said:
So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096
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will this work on a non gps telus touch?

foxatphoenixlabs said:
will this work on a non gps telus touch?
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It has been known since a while that all Vogues phones (or CDMA Touch) have the GPS hardware built in. It is just not activated by Telus yet.
This new ROM should be released officially by Telus soon in order to let users have GPS and better performance.

uggh canadians
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum

Rev A
Has anyone else tested to see if Rev A gives better performance?
Also, does this ROM improve Bluetooth and device overall performance?
Dave

its there
the place holder is up.. we can expect the official, offical release soon
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd

Thanks for this ROM. Can't be more easy to upgrade a ROM.
GPS is working fine. It took several try and a very clear sky (no tree) to make first connexion. It was so slow to connect that I suspect AGPS (cellular tower triangulation assist) is not working.
At 3 bars of reception, in EVDO REV A zone, I get a DL speed of 150 to 400kb/s which is pretty lame and just a bit better than before rev A.

One problem:
When clicking on status icons on the top bar (volume, battery, etc.), it used to display the control directly. Now it displays an intermediate screen repeating those icons but in a larger mode. It is buggy because it doesn't display message icons if I previously clicked Dismiss. Then I can't go to my messages.
In Start, Settings, System, TouchFLO, there is no setting to remove this screen.
I tried HKLM->Software->HTC->EnlargeTitleBar->Enable=0 without success.
Is it something that comes with WM6.1?
Is it Telus ROM specific?
Do Sprint official ROM got the same problem?
Any reg to remove this?

That is too funny
513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.

If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
In regards to Rev A speeds. I'm in London ontario so would think there would be rev A in the area but I dont get any better download speeds. I still download around 600-800 kbps. Which is really good enough for me. I dont know if rev A actually was supposed to increase your download speed or if it improved upload speeds making Voip easier and allowing you to have data and phone stuff going on at the same time. All I know is my internet speed didnt change but Rev A was enabled.

Aaron McCarthy said:
If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
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Every time, before using this, an already established data connexion is needed BEFORE looking for GPS satellite. The GPS will not establish the connection if it's not there. A simple solution is to open Google map and move the map up to a download is required BEFORE making the GPS satellite connexion.

513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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yes i am in canada and now my internet doesnt work. poop.

redNeck
sailor_dude said:
Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.
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thats why i wear my hair
long...to cover my redneck*(~
....................canada has a navy? is it kept together with maple syrup?

For as small as our arms forces are (navy, Army, airforce) we actually have some of the best trained soldiers the world and some of the best equipped. Little known fact No that it has anything to do with the phone!

Looks like the official Telus rom is on HTC's site now.

Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.

Shrink said:
Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.
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Very lame.
Exact same files and version. http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd
2 weeks ago I sent a support ticket to HTC stating that the GPS fix is difficult to get, mainly because all GPS assisted features (aGPS) are disabled by default in the radio (can't be fixed by a simple registry tweak). I even pointed them to one solution of many (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 post #14). Then no correction and not even a mention in the documentation.
I just can't imagine how many phone calls they will get from upgraders complaining that the GPS can't find satellites after 5 minutes...

GPS slow getting a fix

I have noticed occasionally my HTC TP2 is very slow getting a GPS fix using the built in receiver (up to 25 minutes to get a fix whereas normally it is under 1 minute). This can happen at the same location as previous days or hours use in open sky area. Running the built in program QuickGPS successfully has not helped. It seems as if any current built in GPS almanac is not working?
Any idea what key data files if any are needed to enable a fast GPS fix? Maybe they are being deleted by memory cleaners? What could be my problem? I get this problem once or twice a week and use the GPS daily.

Have the same problem here but not all the time.

Hey
jmcourir said:
Have the same problem here but not all the time.
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that dosen't help.... maybe this will.. this thread is the most useful(to me atleast)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
LOOK BY THE GPS Reg TWEAKS
hope this helps it sure did for my phone
and i'v heard of changing ratio(i haven't try'd but you can)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939&page=4

humble said:
that dosen't help.... maybe this will.. this thread is the most useful(to me atleast)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
LOOK BY THE GPS Reg TWEAKS
hope this helps it sure did for my phone
and i'v heard of changing ratio(i haven't try'd but you can)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939&page=4
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It's not only mine????
I have exactly the same problem. I compare on the same device, at the same place with internal GPS after 20 mins and Gsat bluetooth after 5 mins
I'll call Orange Waranty this evening!!!

idea
ed_bracam said:
It's not only mine????
I have exactly the same problem. I compare on the same device, at the same place with internal GPS after 20 mins and Gsat bluetooth after 5 mins
I'll call Orange Waranty this evening!!!
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for real? i did not know what kind of HTC TP2(Euo,Orange,T-mobile,etc) maybe we should start a pole about this?
mines take about 2-3mins to lock(not to bad to me)
Edit: just tested 1 or less min

Update
USE the newest google maps 3.2.1 i think

humble said:
USE the newest google maps 3.2.1 i think
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Google maps is related to the signal quality It's new!

You may want to check that warranty information. Dead TP2 GPS units *do* exist -- I had mine replaced after the GPS simply stopped working after 4 days. If a hard reset + GPS provisioning CAB doesn't work - your device has issues. I did not need QPST on either of our TWO Touch Pro 2's in our household here.
(Telus TP2 CDMA/GSM)

gregorypleau said:
You may want to check that warranty information. Dead TP2 GPS units *do* exist -- I had mine replaced after the GPS simply stopped working after 4 days. If a hard reset + GPS provisioning CAB doesn't work - your device has issues. I did not need QPST on either of our TWO Touch Pro 2's in our household here.
(Telus TP2 CDMA/GSM)
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My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks

ed_bracam said:
My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks
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There is very minimal risk to warranty of using HSPL as you can flash the original SPL back if you need to return the device.
Try using the HTCGps tool to Warm up the GPS first.
I have issues with mine if I am travelling and attempt to get a fix from cold, if I obtain the fix before moving, it's fairly quick, max 1 min from cold, and never an issue. if I attempt to get a fix whilst moving it takes forever.
ps, GPS is NOT as good as Kaiser was
Cheers,
Beasty

beast0898 said:
There is very minimal risk to warranty of using HSPL as you can flash the original SPL back if you need to return the device.
Try using the HTCGps tool to Warm up the GPS first.
I have issues with mine if I am travelling and attempt to get a fix from cold, if I obtain the fix before moving, it's fairly quick, max 1 min from cold, and never an issue. if I attempt to get a fix whilst moving it takes forever.
ps, GPS is NOT as good as Kaiser was
Cheers,
Beasty
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Yes maybe not better as Kaiser but look the two screens on my previous post (the first from me)! You can see the result for outdoor and not in so bad condition... With only two sats at 30%, the TP2 will never fix.
If I need a desert area to fix GPS I prefer use the GSAT module. It's easier to use!

ed_bracam said:
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its not
Sarcasm... i love it. yup that definitely hardware problem. return pronto

humble said:
its not
Sarcasm... i love it. yup that definitely hardware problem. return pronto
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Yes, I think too! The problem, is that I get my TP2 with a small contract. They manage it as free contract. I need to send the phone order before (by mail, not by fax or email). I think, this return will not easy.
Today I will check the antenna plans, just under the back cover, with chance, one is not correctly connected...

Just Flash a new Radio.
I had the same problems, but all is working perfectly now, its a known problem with the launch Radio's on the device.

mrj said:
Just Flash a new Radio.
I had the same problems, but all is working perfectly now, its a known problem with the launch Radio's on the device.
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Are you sure that the level signal was very low on your device before reflash radio?
Which radio have you now?
The Problem if I flash is the waranty and return back to the original radio If the problem is HW. I don't have the original orange radio ROM.

ed_bracam said:
My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks
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Hmmm. GPS Provisioning CAB seems to be CDMA specific when I look at it -- http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=78592. May or may not be helpful for you there.
My Touch Pro 2 got into a funk after 4 days of use and no matter what I'd do to it - hard resets, advanced config, QPST settings I could never bring it back to working. Now, if you're on Orange, then I believe you're using one of the European GSM flavours of the TP2 -- one that has an 'official' ROM update from HTC on their site -- before going back to warranty, reflash that phone to see if it resets the radio firmware.
I have also seen things like this with my HTC Touch (Vogue) when I was running NFSFAN's ROM on it. The GPS died, and the fix was simply to reflash the 'official' ROM on it --- TWICE --- before going back to the NFSFAN ROM. HTC devices do weird things sometimes.

gregorypleau said:
Hmmm. GPS Provisioning CAB seems to be CDMA specific when I look at it -- http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=78592. May or may not be helpful for you there.
My Touch Pro 2 got into a funk after 4 days of use and no matter what I'd do to it - hard resets, advanced config, QPST settings I could never bring it back to working. Now, if you're on Orange, then I believe you're using one of the European GSM flavours of the TP2 -- one that has an 'official' ROM update from HTC on their site -- before going back to warranty, reflash that phone to see if it resets the radio firmware.
I have also seen things like this with my HTC Touch (Vogue) when I was running NFSFAN's ROM on it. The GPS died, and the fix was simply to reflash the 'official' ROM on it --- TWICE --- before going back to the NFSFAN ROM. HTC devices do weird things sometimes.
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I have branded Orange TP2 with custom ROM. I didn't found this ROM. I dumped mine but I don't know how to rebuild it. I cannot reflash with the standard HTC because it's not the same.
For the cab I don't know if it can be dangerous for the phone.

no gps signal

Hi y`all,
i just got mine htc touch pro 2 and watching 2 seconds of it i am loving it.
but i got tom tom on the phone and it wont get a gps fix.
I dint install it using a installer i already had it on my sd card and copy it with the map to my phone it will start but i cant get a gps fix.
please any help is apreciated.
Greats
antonius
p.s. sorry for the bad english

Topic already created:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551704
You are not alone...

i saw that i was thinking this is maby related to the version of tom tom we are using

Antonius123 said:
i saw that i was thinking this is maby related to the version of tom tom we are using
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I don't think it has anything to do with software. (at least GPS) I have the same problems with Google Maps as well as TeleNav. I was on the phone for 2 hours with t-mo tech support and was told that it was probable an issue with Google not T-Mobile. There suggestion was TeleNav, when that did not work I called back and another hour later they stated it was an issue with my phone.... SOOOOO, I went today got a new one and STILL the same problem. Cant find Sats. or Location unavail. So at this point i have no idea what the problem is... Guess I'll call tech support

Downloaded QuickGPS data?

Yes i downloaded quick qps.
but can it be that i installd an english rom and i live in the dutch country that it dont work ??
i also read about that a provider is blocking gps
LINK
p.s. i am with t-mobile

Antonius123 said:
Yes i downloaded quick qps.
but can it be that i installd an english rom and i live in the dutch country that it dont work ??
i also read about that a provider is blocking gps
LINK
p.s. i am with t-mobile
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In my kaiser, I use WWE roms and I never had problems with GPS.
On my Frensh Orange ROM, there is no QuickGPS. But with the bad GPS signal level, it will never fix.

i feel sorry to hear ur problem.. my gps works fine.. in fact its better than my previous Touch Pro/Fuze .. my Rhodium locks gps satt within 10seconds
maybe have to wait for new Radio ROM..

pcboyy said:
i feel sorry to hear ur problem.. my gps works fine.. in fact its better than my previous Touch Pro/Fuze .. my Rhodium locks gps satt within 10seconds
maybe have to wait for new Radio ROM..
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We have a real problem.
Which software you use to check the reception? I use TomTom7 and BeelineGPS

Antonius123 said:
Yes i downloaded quick qps.
but can it be that i installd an english rom and i live in the dutch country that it dont work ??
i also read about that a provider is blocking gps
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p.s. i am with t-mobile
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Verizon is the scum of the earth. They screw with every feature a phone has, limiting bluetooth, GPS, wifi, etc.. I'm honestly surprised they don't totally screw up phones (beyond what functional removal they're already doing, that is).

has anybody an solution to this problem?

khaytsus said:
Verizon is the scum of the earth. They screw with every feature a phone has, limiting bluetooth, GPS, wifi, etc.. I'm honestly surprised they don't totally screw up phones (beyond what functional removal they're already doing, that is).
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That's why I bailed out of Verizon a couple of years ago. They cripple features of the phone when those features might cause them to lose revenue (we wouldn't want your browser to save pictures when you can buy wallpaper through Verizon, would we?). I bailed out when I decided to replace my PDA with a PDA/phone and I didn't want to go with Verizon only to find out they're crippling PDAs as well.

Just upgrade the radio rom.
I was getting a GPS signal only once out of every 10 times I used it. As soon as I upgrade the Radio its fixed 10/10 the original Radio's were faulty/buggy when acquiring GPS signal.

can you give me the number of your radio rom version ?

Antonius has a patch for this, check the stickies.
Dave

[Q] gps not working on tilt 2!!!

hello i bought this beautifull phone, but the ****in gps not works!!. I tried with garmin and choose GPS intermediata driver, and then of 3 hours, cant detect any satelite. Same with google maps, if i choose USE GPS. It says seeking gps. then GPS error bla bla.
HELP!! i dont know waht can i do!!
i tried with garmin in N85 and it works perfecly

jufece said:
hello i bought this beautifull phone, but the ****in gps not works!!. I tried with garmin and choose GPS intermediata driver, and then of 3 hours, cant detect any satelite. Same with google maps, if i choose USE GPS. It says seeking gps. then GPS error bla bla.
HELP!! i dont know waht can i do!!
i tried with garmin in N85 and it works perfecly
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have you tried updating 'quick gps' tool?
is 'my location' enabled?
is 'agps' enabled?
maybe try a different com type under gps settings?
sh4d086.

sh4d0w86 said:
have you tried updating 'quick gps' tool?
is 'my location' enabled?
is 'agps' enabled?
maybe try a different com type under gps settings?
sh4d086.
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settings->location-> htc location service? yes
agps-> is enabled
what port??
actually is
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: (none) bad ate: 4800
acces: manage gps automatically

jufece said:
settings->location-> htc location service? yes
agps-> is enabled
what port??
actually is
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: (none) bad ate: 4800
acces: manage gps automatically
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try com 3. it is a popular port.
i havent ever tried another port. though.
so. cant speak from personal experience.
sh4d0w86.

I sincerely hope you haven't got a dud. I had to have my TP2 warranty exchanged after USB sync was no longer working. The first replacement I got would not find any satellites either.
So back it went, only to be replaced with one that had a badly fitted front bezel ... so much for T-Mobile quality

hello. i tried in com 3...same not works

i did hard reset. Installed google maps, activated gps and stay "seeking gps..." for hours=(((((((((((((

jufece said:
i did hard reset. Installed google maps, activated gps and stay "seeking gps..." for hours=(((((((((((((
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I hate to be the one to point this out, but if you are using a stock ROM and it isn't working, perhaps you should think about doing a warranty repair/exchange. That would seem to be the only thing left if, as I said, you are already using a stock ROM and have done a hard reset.

cajunflavoredbob said:
I hate to be the one to point this out, but if you are using a stock ROM and it isn't working, perhaps you should think about doing a warranty repair/exchange. That would seem to be the only thing left if, as I said, you are already using a stock ROM and have done a hard reset.
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thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.

jufece said:
thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.
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You always have the option of a bluetooth GPS receiver.

There's a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676 with GPS tweaks. Might be out of date though.
I'm not sure if it's in the stock rom but as previously posted make sure you run QuickGPS and download the latest sats. After that run HTC GPStool (google for the cab if it's not installed), click Open Port (mine by default is COm4, 56700 baud rate), then start test. Let it sit a few minutes in an open area (outside). Once satellite used starts increasing stop the test and run Google Maps. Should lock on quickly.
I don't know why GPSTool makes the phone lock on so much quicker, but without running that first i've never gotten a lock on my phone with google/bing.

Toleraen said:
There's a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676 with GPS tweaks. Might be out of date though.
I'm not sure if it's in the stock rom but as previously posted make sure you run QuickGPS and download the latest sats. After that run HTC GPStool (google for the cab if it's not installed), click Open Port (mine by default is COm4, 56700 baud rate), then start test. Let it sit a few minutes in an open area (outside). Once satellite used starts increasing stop the test and run Google Maps. Should lock on quickly.
I don't know why GPSTool makes the phone lock on so much quicker, but without running that first i've never gotten a lock on my phone with google/bing.
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hello i already tried with htc gps tools, a few days ago, but it couldn find any satellite in that moment.
Ill try again tomorow, thanks for help

Hmm. If you run the HTC GPSTools for several minutes (~10 minutes) does the device start to get hot? That might help indicate that the hardware is working to power GPS antenna. Just kind of a wild guess though.

Toleraen said:
Hmm. If you run the HTC GPSTools for several minutes (~10 minutes) does the device start to get hot? That might help indicate that the hardware is working to power GPS antenna. Just kind of a wild guess though.
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This is the simplest way to test for a hardware failure. The GPS in the unit draws considerably more power while trying to locate a signal. If the device warms up noticeably within about 15 minutes or so, this will tell you whether the GPS is even activating at all.

i tried again with the gps tool, and it not works. Device is not hot, and google maps keeps seeking gps
edit: hello i was scared, and maybe i did **** on my pants, but i flashed a new rom on phone, ill try with gps again on the morning
edit2: gps still not working,
Satellite Viewed: 16 Satellite Used: 0

jufece said:
i tried again with the gps tool, and it not works. Device is not hot, and google maps keeps seeking gps
edit: hello i was scared, and maybe i did **** on my pants, but i flashed a new rom on phone, ill try with gps again on the morning
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Well, if the device wasn't getting noticeably warmer while seeking, then the hardware is very likely at fault. I would recommend that you try to have it repaired under the warranty. If you would rather live with it, then there are plenty of Bluetooth GPS receivers out there that will work wonderfully.

As i say warranty is not an option for me. Well, i really dont need the gps for now.
And yeah i can live with this sh.. just kidding, i love my phone and always will love it
thanks for all help

jufece said:
thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.
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I had a similar issue. I installed the Energy ROM and it fixed all my issues.

easy fix
The fix is very simple. Go to start/settings/home and turn SENSE/TOUCHFLO off. Now turn on google maps and set your phone somewhere and after it says active close google maps, turn SENSE back on and repeat the first step. For some reason on some roms the GPS will not work with SENSE 2.1 or SENSE 2.5 unless you lock sats with SENSE off forst then it with work with SENSE on.

porkenhimer said:
The fix is very simple. Go to start/settings/home and turn SENSE/TOUCHFLO off. Now turn on google maps and set your phone somewhere and after it says active close google maps, turn SENSE back on and repeat the first step. For some reason on some roms the GPS will not work with SENSE 2.1 or SENSE 2.5 unless you lock sats with SENSE off forst then it with work with SENSE on.
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wtf!!!! who are youu? a ****in genious
i turned off sence, then google maps, but after 1 minute i was bored. Closed it, and open the GPS Viewer that came in rom. After 1 minute it shows 1 satelite, 10 seconds later 2 sat. Ill try with google again, i think just needing the correct settings. So thanks a lot. Illpost results here, tomorow