I have noticed occasionally my HTC TP2 is very slow getting a GPS fix using the built in receiver (up to 25 minutes to get a fix whereas normally it is under 1 minute). This can happen at the same location as previous days or hours use in open sky area. Running the built in program QuickGPS successfully has not helped. It seems as if any current built in GPS almanac is not working?
Any idea what key data files if any are needed to enable a fast GPS fix? Maybe they are being deleted by memory cleaners? What could be my problem? I get this problem once or twice a week and use the GPS daily.
Have the same problem here but not all the time.
Hey
jmcourir said:
Have the same problem here but not all the time.
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that dosen't help.... maybe this will.. this thread is the most useful(to me atleast)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
LOOK BY THE GPS Reg TWEAKS
hope this helps it sure did for my phone
and i'v heard of changing ratio(i haven't try'd but you can)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939&page=4
humble said:
that dosen't help.... maybe this will.. this thread is the most useful(to me atleast)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
LOOK BY THE GPS Reg TWEAKS
hope this helps it sure did for my phone
and i'v heard of changing ratio(i haven't try'd but you can)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939&page=4
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It's not only mine????
I have exactly the same problem. I compare on the same device, at the same place with internal GPS after 20 mins and Gsat bluetooth after 5 mins
I'll call Orange Waranty this evening!!!
idea
ed_bracam said:
It's not only mine????
I have exactly the same problem. I compare on the same device, at the same place with internal GPS after 20 mins and Gsat bluetooth after 5 mins
I'll call Orange Waranty this evening!!!
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for real? i did not know what kind of HTC TP2(Euo,Orange,T-mobile,etc) maybe we should start a pole about this?
mines take about 2-3mins to lock(not to bad to me)
Edit: just tested 1 or less min
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USE the newest google maps 3.2.1 i think
humble said:
USE the newest google maps 3.2.1 i think
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Google maps is related to the signal quality It's new!
You may want to check that warranty information. Dead TP2 GPS units *do* exist -- I had mine replaced after the GPS simply stopped working after 4 days. If a hard reset + GPS provisioning CAB doesn't work - your device has issues. I did not need QPST on either of our TWO Touch Pro 2's in our household here.
(Telus TP2 CDMA/GSM)
gregorypleau said:
You may want to check that warranty information. Dead TP2 GPS units *do* exist -- I had mine replaced after the GPS simply stopped working after 4 days. If a hard reset + GPS provisioning CAB doesn't work - your device has issues. I did not need QPST on either of our TWO Touch Pro 2's in our household here.
(Telus TP2 CDMA/GSM)
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My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks
ed_bracam said:
My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks
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There is very minimal risk to warranty of using HSPL as you can flash the original SPL back if you need to return the device.
Try using the HTCGps tool to Warm up the GPS first.
I have issues with mine if I am travelling and attempt to get a fix from cold, if I obtain the fix before moving, it's fairly quick, max 1 min from cold, and never an issue. if I attempt to get a fix whilst moving it takes forever.
ps, GPS is NOT as good as Kaiser was
Cheers,
Beasty
beast0898 said:
There is very minimal risk to warranty of using HSPL as you can flash the original SPL back if you need to return the device.
Try using the HTCGps tool to Warm up the GPS first.
I have issues with mine if I am travelling and attempt to get a fix from cold, if I obtain the fix before moving, it's fairly quick, max 1 min from cold, and never an issue. if I attempt to get a fix whilst moving it takes forever.
ps, GPS is NOT as good as Kaiser was
Cheers,
Beasty
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Yes maybe not better as Kaiser but look the two screens on my previous post (the first from me)! You can see the result for outdoor and not in so bad condition... With only two sats at 30%, the TP2 will never fix.
If I need a desert area to fix GPS I prefer use the GSAT module. It's easier to use!
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its not
Sarcasm... i love it. yup that definitely hardware problem. return pronto
humble said:
its not
Sarcasm... i love it. yup that definitely hardware problem. return pronto
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Yes, I think too! The problem, is that I get my TP2 with a small contract. They manage it as free contract. I need to send the phone order before (by mail, not by fax or email). I think, this return will not easy.
Today I will check the antenna plans, just under the back cover, with chance, one is not correctly connected...
Just Flash a new Radio.
I had the same problems, but all is working perfectly now, its a known problem with the launch Radio's on the device.
mrj said:
Just Flash a new Radio.
I had the same problems, but all is working perfectly now, its a known problem with the launch Radio's on the device.
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Are you sure that the level signal was very low on your device before reflash radio?
Which radio have you now?
The Problem if I flash is the waranty and return back to the original radio If the problem is HW. I don't have the original orange radio ROM.
ed_bracam said:
My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks
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Hmmm. GPS Provisioning CAB seems to be CDMA specific when I look at it -- http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=78592. May or may not be helpful for you there.
My Touch Pro 2 got into a funk after 4 days of use and no matter what I'd do to it - hard resets, advanced config, QPST settings I could never bring it back to working. Now, if you're on Orange, then I believe you're using one of the European GSM flavours of the TP2 -- one that has an 'official' ROM update from HTC on their site -- before going back to warranty, reflash that phone to see if it resets the radio firmware.
I have also seen things like this with my HTC Touch (Vogue) when I was running NFSFAN's ROM on it. The GPS died, and the fix was simply to reflash the 'official' ROM on it --- TWICE --- before going back to the NFSFAN ROM. HTC devices do weird things sometimes.
gregorypleau said:
Hmmm. GPS Provisioning CAB seems to be CDMA specific when I look at it -- http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=78592. May or may not be helpful for you there.
My Touch Pro 2 got into a funk after 4 days of use and no matter what I'd do to it - hard resets, advanced config, QPST settings I could never bring it back to working. Now, if you're on Orange, then I believe you're using one of the European GSM flavours of the TP2 -- one that has an 'official' ROM update from HTC on their site -- before going back to warranty, reflash that phone to see if it resets the radio firmware.
I have also seen things like this with my HTC Touch (Vogue) when I was running NFSFAN's ROM on it. The GPS died, and the fix was simply to reflash the 'official' ROM on it --- TWICE --- before going back to the NFSFAN ROM. HTC devices do weird things sometimes.
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I have branded Orange TP2 with custom ROM. I didn't found this ROM. I dumped mine but I don't know how to rebuild it. I cannot reflash with the standard HTC because it's not the same.
For the cab I don't know if it can be dangerous for the phone.
Related
So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096
by setting GPSMode to 4 you disable the GPS. Not the best idea....
GPSMode 1 = ONLY pure GPS
GPSMode 2 = GPS + aGPS
GPSMode 4 = aGPS only
Got it installed without any issues. However Google maps and the Telus Navigator programs don't seem to be able to find the GPS... Well, to be more precise, googlemaps doesn't give an error. It just sits there seeking satellites. The Telus NAV doesn't get past the startup screen. Any suggestions?
WM6.1 is working fine on my phone but is it possible that I actually don't have the built in GPS even though it is a Telus HTC Touch?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31437
guardianfox said:
So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096
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will this work on a non gps telus touch?
foxatphoenixlabs said:
will this work on a non gps telus touch?
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It has been known since a while that all Vogues phones (or CDMA Touch) have the GPS hardware built in. It is just not activated by Telus yet.
This new ROM should be released officially by Telus soon in order to let users have GPS and better performance.
uggh canadians
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
Rev A
Has anyone else tested to see if Rev A gives better performance?
Also, does this ROM improve Bluetooth and device overall performance?
Dave
its there
the place holder is up.. we can expect the official, offical release soon
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd
Thanks for this ROM. Can't be more easy to upgrade a ROM.
GPS is working fine. It took several try and a very clear sky (no tree) to make first connexion. It was so slow to connect that I suspect AGPS (cellular tower triangulation assist) is not working.
At 3 bars of reception, in EVDO REV A zone, I get a DL speed of 150 to 400kb/s which is pretty lame and just a bit better than before rev A.
One problem:
When clicking on status icons on the top bar (volume, battery, etc.), it used to display the control directly. Now it displays an intermediate screen repeating those icons but in a larger mode. It is buggy because it doesn't display message icons if I previously clicked Dismiss. Then I can't go to my messages.
In Start, Settings, System, TouchFLO, there is no setting to remove this screen.
I tried HKLM->Software->HTC->EnlargeTitleBar->Enable=0 without success.
Is it something that comes with WM6.1?
Is it Telus ROM specific?
Do Sprint official ROM got the same problem?
Any reg to remove this?
That is too funny
513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.
If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
In regards to Rev A speeds. I'm in London ontario so would think there would be rev A in the area but I dont get any better download speeds. I still download around 600-800 kbps. Which is really good enough for me. I dont know if rev A actually was supposed to increase your download speed or if it improved upload speeds making Voip easier and allowing you to have data and phone stuff going on at the same time. All I know is my internet speed didnt change but Rev A was enabled.
Aaron McCarthy said:
If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
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Every time, before using this, an already established data connexion is needed BEFORE looking for GPS satellite. The GPS will not establish the connection if it's not there. A simple solution is to open Google map and move the map up to a download is required BEFORE making the GPS satellite connexion.
513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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yes i am in canada and now my internet doesnt work. poop.
redNeck
sailor_dude said:
Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.
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thats why i wear my hair
long...to cover my redneck*(~
....................canada has a navy? is it kept together with maple syrup?
For as small as our arms forces are (navy, Army, airforce) we actually have some of the best trained soldiers the world and some of the best equipped. Little known fact No that it has anything to do with the phone!
Looks like the official Telus rom is on HTC's site now.
Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.
Shrink said:
Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.
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Very lame.
Exact same files and version. http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd
2 weeks ago I sent a support ticket to HTC stating that the GPS fix is difficult to get, mainly because all GPS assisted features (aGPS) are disabled by default in the radio (can't be fixed by a simple registry tweak). I even pointed them to one solution of many (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 post #14). Then no correction and not even a mention in the documentation.
I just can't imagine how many phone calls they will get from upgraders complaining that the GPS can't find satellites after 5 minutes...
Hello there,
What I Have: Att 8525 Herm100
Rom: Att's Mobile 6
Everything is stock but the extended life battery
The problem I am having is when ever I try to activate my WiFi the phone doesn't do anything. I am not sure if there is a wifi card or not but that's want I want to know. I have tried everything from activating it in com manager to going into the settings and activating it manually and nothing happens it acts like I didn't even hit the button to activate it. Is there a wifi card in the phone or is it integrated on the motherboard in the phone. Note: I bought this phone off e-bay and the wifi never worked when I received the phone.
I am new here and if there is a post about this already I am sorry.
I hate it when that happens.
To begin, there were two ATT OEM WM6 roms relevant to the 8525 that I noticed deep in the bowels of XGA.
I chose the later file (higher revision numbers) I found it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
From comm manager when I click the tower button on within a second the spinning windoze icon shows something is happening. It then starts "sniffing" for my preset wifi connection (ATT supplied 2wire portal 802.11g).
Now, if yours does not show the spinning windoze working icon when you turn on wifi? There obviously is a problem. This could be software, or hardware related (duh). If there is no error message related to "wifi is not an option, unavailable, or screwed" then my first guess is there is something missing or damaged in the ROM update that was applied to your device. As far as I know all 8525 (herm100) were shipped with wm5. It had been mentioned in the volumes of xda that the first AT&T WM6 rom was a little buggy. Try the later released AT&T WM6 update.
It was a run file so no muss no fuss. Sync the phone run the update from the pc, three minutes later the phone is flashed to ATT WM6 professional.
You could take it to a ATT shop? But, I think that without a doubt they would hand it back and say you need a new phone with a 20 year contract and 3g data plan even Obama would blush at.
Try the hard reset. take a picture of the startup screens so you have the numbers and see if the wifi startup is working after the reset. If not then compare the numbers to the above mentioned roms. If the indications are you have the first issue of WM6 from ATT try flashing the second release. If that still fails then your device could indeed have a hardware problem.
The wifi is indeed built into the system and if that chip on the board is not working it could be a overly expensive problem. Possibly a shop has a working board they would swap out cheap? Otherwise, it is a fun phone you can keep notes on, run gps software if you have a bluetooth gps receiver and software like tomtom.
To be honest the wifi on my 8525 has been convenient when around the house to check the local weather radar when I hear a thunder outside, or browse headlines from the porcelain room or even leave messenger turned on incase a gamer friend is looking for someone to get shot up in a game.
I have used the live search voice thing to amaze the neighbors once. But, the limited range of wifi is a real drawback to how truly wonderful that addition could be.
HELP Please! Wi-Fi not working!!!
Hi to XDA all users !!!
MY Hermes - HTC TyTN [Herm200]
I bought HTC Hermes myself year ago.
there was flashed a WM5.0, I've just downloaded from here HARD SPL & WM6,1 (Custom) Flashed.
Wi-Fi will works on WM5.0.
Well here I am at 6.1 flashed and now is not working Wi-Fi. When i pressed Power ON - loading long and nothing happens.
Other methods are also tried on Commanager and Settings - but did not help.
What do I need to do my dear.
HELP!
Thank you for your attention!
Hi Nurk.
Since the wifi worked on wm5 but failed after the 6.1 flash. I would guess the problem is in the 6.1 components. You might start with contacting the kitchen rom you employed for WM6.1 thread and see if this has happened to others. Next step would be to check the radio rom version. I did see on xda an assortment of Radio roms.
If your not totally in love with the current rom you have flashed? Try another 6.1 or even a 6.5 and see whats poppin.
and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
utak3r said:
and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
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I have get this from registry:
HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName - {98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1
first we are sad that a cople of users are against us!
For this reason we are stopping with the project.
we want to help the communitie but some people dont want to help to this and want to block this kind of users.
some people are making there own c# code but we work in vb.net so it isnt possible they can view the sourche code from the application.
i hope you all will accept this and to the users that cant get there gps working now we are sorry maby we are back in the future
FAQ Becose it is needed
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Here is a youtube vid.
The video was taking inside a building and with the patch we got a good signal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j8ylsb1Qtc
the picture is also taking inside.
Last one
Last one
That is wonderfull!
Soon as I recieve my Rhodium I´ll install it
Thanks!
What is the fix for?
What problem is this patch supposed to address? Slow/intermittent GPS lock, Lag, or some other problem?
As far as I can see it is simply an animated GIF set to display during boot and changing some registry entries relating to the GPS intermediate driver and increasing the file system cache.
Tom
aarrodri said:
What is the fix for?
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I adjusted the post.
frogfoot said:
What problem is this patch supposed to address? Slow/intermittent GPS lock, Lag, or some other problem?
As far as I can see it is simply an animated GIF set to display during boot and changing some registry entries relating to the GPS intermediate driver and increasing the file system cache.
Tom
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yes tom,
the reason i added the gps is that the stupid microsoft visual studio wont allow to build cab files with out a file in it.
it indeed adjust a couple of registry settings but if you do it in the way it is writen above you get a gps fix,
It is for the
lag problem, getting no gps signal in any way.
i even get gps in house now
greats antonius
I have a fix with out this in 3 sec in mine house with google maps.(5sat.)
janshuizing said:
I have a fix with out this in 3 sec in mine house with google maps.(5sat.)
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it is for people with problems
Stuck while it's a hot topic.
Dave
Do you know if T-Mobile TP2s need the new radio driver, or is the included radio up-to-date?
|Blitzkrieg| said:
Do you know if T-Mobile TP2s need the new radio driver, or is the included radio up-to-date?
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if yours works out of the box, don't patch it.
mine is Tmo TP2 and get almost instant sat lock, so I am not going to patch mine for now.
That's the radio version I have. What does the cab file do? Does it automatically change the registry settings for the GPS Intermediate driver? If so, I have made those changes and I still get GPS lag.
gps lag
i work at a auto repair shop and on occasion i get the oppurtunity to drive a customers car that has a dedicated gps. what i have noticed is that the lag time with those dedicated units and my old touch diamond and touch pro is that the lag time is about the same. i have not tested it with my current phone (tp2)just yet but it seems about the same maybe a little faster. imho i think it has something to do with the lag time with the gps signal having to travel so far. if we think about it, the signal has to travel out into space and then back down. things no matter how fast are not instantaneous.
btw i love this phone. i just typed all this on my tp2! great keyboard.
just my two cents
GPS is another reason I miss my HTC Dream. It was fast and worked indoors. SO far, I see no improvement with this radio and .cab. Of course, I already had an alleged GPS fix with a different radio (3.44.25.27 +A-GPS hot fix). I will test outside now. So far nothing indoors. update: well... it does seem to pick up faster outside now. good fix! not great but a bit better than before. good find!
This Fix works great in my TP2...
Question: Installed but my free program down 6MB..? BTW I'm using Miri V 1.1 Manila 2.5
Edit: My Garmin 5.00.20w works better than my TyTNII... It locks inside my house within 5 second.. More amazing in my bed room which I never get any GPS signal... Antonius .. Genius...
testaccount said:
if yours works out of the box, don't patch it.
mine is Tmo TP2 and get almost instant sat lock, so I am not going to patch mine for now.
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Sadly, mine's not working un-patched. TeleNav and Google Maps both are having a hard time getting satelite locks, indoors and out, moving and stationary
|Blitzkrieg| said:
Sadly, mine's not working un-patched. TeleNav and Google Maps both are having a hard time getting satelite locks, indoors and out, moving and stationary
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download the new program that i just put online.
and try it again.
p.s. did you update your radio rom ?
I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
@grungysquash. A pity really, but your so far in the minority that after reading all the threads that you said you read I find it hard to believe you don't notice all the raves about this device. If it were me that'd make me think maybe there's something I'm missing. I had a tytn 2 also and wow, that does take me back. Like my tp2 way,way better.
So hearing how many kudos the tp2 gets maybe you should give it a better go.
Now you might think this a stupid question , but I gotta ask as you'd be amazed how many don't know this: Re the gps, Two things are a must to do before it will work properly. Under your network settings the box for being able to see the device location has to be checked. It is usually unchecked by default. Also enable quick gps. Try google maps to test as it is the easiest. The first sat. lock can take a min. I can use my gps with google maps inside most buildings and it is very fast.
Don't be impatient and take it easy and you'll find the answers to your issues, then you'll find your issues wern't much of an issue after all.
Give it a fair shot tho. Good Luck.
P.S. have you checked out ppcgeeks? I don't recall seeing anyone with your handle commenting over there. Maybe I missed it, but that is the place for fantastic tp2 info. Not that xda isn't good.
grungysquash said:
I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
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Translation: Telstra's ROM Sucks.
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But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
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Translation: Your GPS is broken.
grungysquash said:
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
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Install QuickGPS, you'll be able to easily see the status of the GPS with it.. If it's not getting any sats, the GPS is broken for whatever reason. There's not likely any settings in QuickGPS you need to do unless Telestra set it wrong in the registry. I recall reading some folks found UK where they needed US in the QuickGPS registry entries, thus downloading the wrong set of ephemeris data. Possible, but regardless of bad QuickGPS data if it doesn't get sats within a minute there is a hardware problem. QuickGPS data just gives it some initial information in order to more quickly evaluate satellite positions.
Get Energy's rom
You gotta ask yourself, why am I the only person with this problem.
grungysquash said:
I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
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Unlucky mate - you picked the right ROM, just the wrong version. GPS isn't working on the latest NRG ROM. I'm sure it'll be fixed shortly but in the meantime I'd use the previous version.
The TP2 is definitely THE best phone currently available.
Ramsfan_Jim said:
Unlucky mate - you picked the right ROM, just the wrong version. GPS isn't working on the latest NRG ROM. I'm sure it'll be fixed shortly but in the meantime I'd use the previous version.
The TP2 is definitely THE best phone currently available.
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am running Pure Energy's 24th rom - which I think is brilliant, if this has a fault (seems there is a post which shows someone else has the identical problem.) then this would explain this.
Will flash the older rom and see how I go - a new day a new challenge, have to admit the phone looks nice again this morning just had to reset the exchange settings after the hard reset. Everything works except the GPS
I did google into ppcgeeks forum but have not joined - have been flashing phones since I struggled with the mighty JamJam with winmo5, (ended up flashing 4 others too for work mates who got sick of the soft reset) have always been able to sort issues like this out just this one I could not resolve.
GPS is fine in the Energy Phoenix2 28002 build. I loaded it shortly before the 28004 version was up'ed and would imagine GPS would be fine there too based on the very minimal amount of changes to the ROM.
GPS seems to be broken in the new 21876 build, as used in the very latest EnergyROM. There weren't any reported problems with GPS in the builds before that. Remember, you've downloaded a brand-new cooked ROM on the day it was released, everyone is effectively beta testing this ROM !
Use one of the preceding versions of EnergyROM and you should be fine.
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am running Pure Energy's 24th rom - which I think is brilliant, if this has a fault (seems there is a post which shows someone else has the identical problem.) then this would explain this.
Will flash the older rom and see how I go - a new day a new challenge, have to admit the phone looks nice again this morning just had to reset the exchange settings after the hard reset. Everything works except the GPS
I did google into ppcgeeks forum but have not joined - have been flashing phones since I struggled with the mighty JamJam with winmo5, (ended up flashing 4 others too for work mates who got sick of the soft reset) have always been able to sort issues like this out just this one I could not resolve.
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OK confirmed - it's the ROM - flashed back to 19 Nov NRG EnergyROM GPS working, so it seems the 24 November ROM has a problem which seems to affect the unlucky. I guess the fact I flashed the rom on day of release coupled with the fact it was the first ROM I had flashed on the phone (only hours old) I assumed there was some fault with the unit - when the fault lies with the user. Time to Slap myself DOH
I apologize for my above rant, brought on by hours of frustration and lack of sleep - maybe the three or so beers did not help with the trouble shooting either.
Hi all,
I have some sort of problem with the GPS. Last Saturday it suddenly wouldn't get a fix at all. I tried taking the battery out and rebooting and still no joy. Then suddenly on Monday it started working again. I was on a flight on Wednesday and it worked on the flight too. About 2 hours later, I was on a train and again, no joy but put it down to maybe some strange coating on the glass. However, I tried again yesterday while out in my car and not a dickybird.
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
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championc said:
Hi all,
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
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Having the same sort of issue with GPS on WM6.5... HTC are (well should be) working on but they have so far sent a gps test cab in the last month... which was useless... like you it will work great one minute then 'acquiring satellites' for ages... unless you have dropped and damaged radio would put the tools away for the moment as looks like software related (how WM6.5 manages GPS lock) that is the problem
I've never had a problem before and i've used it both at home and abroad. I'd use it a couple of times every week.
C
People have said upgrading the radio helped or used the GPS hotfix from HTC... Did this myself recently and must admit it seemed to fix the problem...
I'm running Energy ROM 23557 Sense 2.5 Maxmanilla.
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People have said upgrading the radio helped or used the GPS hotfix from HTC... .
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Thought the GPS hotfix on HTC site was for 6.1... so it works on 6.5 as well?...was going to flash the lastest europe 6.5 (with sense 2.5) it has a later radio but have read messaging is slow for some people, as waiting for HTC to fix on Telstra 6.5 is painful
championc said:
Hi all,
I have some sort of problem with the GPS. Last Saturday it suddenly wouldn't get a fix at all. I tried taking the battery out and rebooting and still no joy. Then suddenly on Monday it started working again. I was on a flight on Wednesday and it worked on the flight too. About 2 hours later, I was on a train and again, no joy but put it down to maybe some strange coating on the glass. However, I tried again yesterday while out in my car and not a dickybird.
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
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When you say you can't get a lock, is this in just one particular app, or have you tried multiple GPS-enabled apps? You may need to determine if the device actually isn't seeing any sats, or if your app just isn't playing nice with the com port anymore.
THIS LINK is for Chartcross' GPS Test (free), it can at least tell you if your hardware is getting a lock independent of any nav apps.
Excellent - exactly what I was looking for. I'll test the Chartcross software on the way home tonight.
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OK, I've got a Yellow circle and it says "GPS Starting up" so obviously doesn't even start to pull down data
Any ideas on what I can do ? Could there be a loose connection somewhere inside the phone ?
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championc said:
OK, I've got a Yellow circle and it says "GPS Starting up" so obviously doesn't even start to pull down data
Any ideas on what I can do ? Could there be a loose connection somewhere inside the phone ?
C
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Did you see it scan through the com ports when it started up? The next thing I would check is the settings (settings-all settings-system-external GPS) and see what it says on the "programs" and "access" tabs
The GPS hardware is a chip that's soldered to the motherboard, so I doubt that's come "loose"...the only other hardware connection that comes into play is the one to whatever antenna the GPS utilizes, but I honestly don't know if uses the same one as the phone/data, or if the chip itself is just a fully integrated receiver
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
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championc said:
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
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If it was seeing any sats, there would be bars in the screen, like the screenshot on their site...so yes it def looks like the phone isn't locking at all. Just to be sure, is your QuickGPS data up to date?
I'd say the next step to try before trying to crack your case open would be to follow ultramag's suggestion and flash to a different radio...some users report drastic improvements in GPS performance after taking that step
championc said:
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
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How long did you wait? I've noticed that it can take up to 10-15 minutes before it'll lock all of them in and turn green. Are the bars moving at all?
Was running over 30 mins and stayed yellow. Bars never budged. I've had the same radio for the past 6 months at least so can't see why it would suddenly become a problem now.
Looks like my only option might be to open it up and check the connections. Everyone drops their phones now and again and I'm no different so there's every possibility of something having come loose.
Has anyone got a photo of the inside so I know what I'm looking for ? Where is the GPS ?
C
com 4 is correct as is 9600 baud. Likely the issue is with the radio you are using. T Mobile radios seem quite touchy. Try a new radio and see what you get. Start gps test first, get the gps running and locked before opening any program that needs gps to work and you likely will have better performance.
championc said:
Was running over 30 mins and stayed yellow. Bars never budged. I've had the same radio for the past 6 months at least so can't see why it would suddenly become a problem now.
Looks like my only option might be to open it up and check the connections. Everyone drops their phones now and again and I'm no different so there's every possibility of something having come loose.
Has anyone got a photo of the inside so I know what I'm looking for ? Where is the GPS ?
C
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mine was working fine and like you was doubting my hardware... seems strange as my issues started with a software update ...some telcos (Telstra in AU) software conflicts with GPS... I installed a HTC rom from Europe yesterday and GPS is now working great... even now locks while car is in garage.. the HTC Desire just released in AU is also having GPS issues on Telstra 6.5 rom ... so have you tried a rom update? as sounds like may be your issue as well...
I'm running Deepshining Rom X6. I had the previous v12RC running since it was released with no problems. I had radio 4.49.25.17 running all the time but just decided to up this to 4.49.25.77 but still no change. It still says "GPS Starting Up". I must have some sort of loose connection since it wouldn't work last Saturday or Sunday but then worked fine on Monday and Wednesday. However, it hasn't worked again since last Wednesday.
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I just opened up my TP2. Is the GPS chip just to the left of the Camera ? (on the right is the Speaker)
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