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Orange UK Only - What's Best Radio with WM6?

Could I please be so greedy as to have a Orange-UK only thread?
I am been reading and searching in earnest to see what other peoples experiences are with the various Radio ROMs. It seems most people are happy with 1.38.00.10, although seems to be a few instances of people sticking with older versions because of battery life/drop outs/data freezes. But I am unable to establish what other people are experiencing in the UK on Orange's network.
I am well familiar with the Radio ROM 1.38 + WM6 - good or bad? thread, but not many people in there commenting on Orange UK.
If you are on Orange UK, please can you share you experiences here?
My own experience has been thus.
Before upgrading to WM6, was on stock M3100, which had Radio 1.06 I beleive. This worked flawlessy with push email (Exch 2003), and never had any problems at all with it. This was also the case when I upgraded to LVSW 20070315, leaving Radio Rom as was.
Then I upgraded to Black 2.0 last week, and did the Radio to 1.34 with it. I didnt notice any problems at first, or rather didnt take much notice of not getting email notifications whilst at work. But on Friday I realised the Data connections were freezing.
I have tried going to 1.38.00.10, to 1.35, back to 1.06, even 1.27. Have also tried going back to LVSW 20070315, and am now on LVSW 20070408
I have narrowed it all down to the "common" problem in swicthing between GSM and 3G. At home I seem to be between 3 transmitters, and swicthing is common. Hence the problems I was having Friday.
The Excellent commmgrpro has helped here. Also Bandswitch.
Anyway, with Phone set to GSM only I have no problems. Odd thing is, driving to Sheffield and back yesterday (dont mention the football!!), with phoen set to Auto, I had no problems at all.
Yet at home, and at work, on auto the data connection freezes.
So.... Whats everyone else using on Orange?

i've been using rom 3.23.0.2 with radio 1.38.00.10 on a spv m3100. this device is been freezing like you described in your post, thing is, it's become unuseable since you have to reboot after the freeze and it happens almost continiously... driving me insane.
if anyone knows of a way how to get back wm5, i'd appreciate it!
freben

When I upgraded a while ago I was wondering the same thing. The only negatives re 1.38 at the time seemed to come from orange UK customers so I went for the 1.27 radio and it seems fine.
Have not yet stepped up further, and at the moment, see no reason to.
Especially as I can even get the H now and then. (If it aint broke...)

@Phil, I've "gone black" (v 2.0) with Radio 1.38.00.10 - only since Saturday, so it may be too early to tell. I've got a push email account with Mail2Web, which I don't tend to use that regularly - it's good for aggregating lots of mail stuff when I go away on business, but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
Since installing the new ROM/Radio/SPL, my M3100 seems to be much better than it was prior to the update. I've reinstalled all my apps (apart from PPCProfilesPRO - I'll do that tonight) and the phone seems really stable - no more random lockups when taking it off charge and only a couple of "slowdowns" when ending calls, or if Activesync'ing....can't really complain if I'm honest
I'll keep an eye on things - and maybe switch on the Exchange push email for a couple of days - and I'll post again if the situation changes.
Cheers,
Mark.
PS - Message for @freben; read MrVanx's guide on downgrading to WM5 - see THIS POST for details of how to find it.

MrVanx kindly provides a guide here: http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/
Do please read very carefully before trying it

Yep...1.27 for me. No real radio problems to report.
Spent a couple of weeks with WMXL 2.0 and the last two weeks with Black 2.0. Both work fine with Orange with 3g (inc HSDPA) and voice. Direct push/web/pop email all fine.
One freeze this morning (first one in two weeks) but dont know if it was radio or os or an app?
Can;t compare with other radios but simply can say am happy with 1.27 (hence why I havent tried 1.38 etc)

Having no problems with set up in sig.
had the freezing with the stock set up.
Could/should we be more scientific here and use one of the many web2.0 survey sites to do a ROM/OS survey to find the right mix?
with a little effort we could then find the most reliable Radio ROM and view by Country/OS/carrier/etc.
just a suggestion..

Mark Crouch said:
but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
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@Mark,
try Orange World Browsing, 8ukp for unlimited data access 24/7
Give O a call on 150 and then the billing option, 4
Orange World Browsing is what is what the O rep told me it was listed as. I think one of the key points is the cost, it’s 6.81 exc VAT or 8 inc VAT, that’s the way to check you have the right package.
And you need to be on a 35ukp per month tarif or more to get it.
apologies for off topic post!!

(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)

unwired4 said:
(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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My bill confirms it as Orange World Browsing -although I too thought it was OWU.
Not sure if it is still so hard to get as it once was.

Sheep_Head - Well, I am definetely up for using a survey site - any recommendations?
I gave re-flashed my phone back to Black 2.0. Seems to be what most people are using here (IMHO). Have tried Radio 1.27, 1.38.00, and right back to 1.07.
With a totally clean device (i.e. straight after flashing), setting up the orangeinternet connection manually, the thing just wont connect to 3G. Only when I have Band set to GSM will it connect.
Jeez!
I am now in the process of going back to an Orange WM5 rom, to see if it makes any difference, (albeit the Romanian one, so will have to reset the internet connection).
Getting mildly frustrated now.

OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....

philg2000 said:
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)

Hey guys - mega useful thread.
I 'thought' I had solved all of my woes and was feeling bloody smug with myself as I thought I had managed to keep the stupid questions down to a minimum. After reading this obviously not .
I am running Black v2.0 (happily) and the rest of the handset is as per my sig block but I have removed spb pocketbooks and replaced it with shell. I thought it was all working correctly but I am suffering the same connectivity issues as yourself (gprs and not 3G).
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Anything I can help with or test let me know and I will do what I can.
Bezman.

wberesford said:
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Bezman.
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I have just tested the voicemail fix again since my reinstall and the certificates cab plus installing the sms dll has always worked for me.
Are you having any specific issues with it?

CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.

mrvanx said:
dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
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Hmmm... I dont think that will achieve anything. I have had the latest LVSW ROM on there a while bad, with the same problem.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has returned a flashed M3100 to Orange.

wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions.
Bezman.
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The only way I have done this recently is using Resco File Explorer. You need to go into the Options menu to ensure you can see all files, then copy the sms_providers.dll into the \Windows directory. It warns you, but if you say yes it lets it happen. I have done this numerous times (have flashed my phone about 10 times recently!) without any problems!

wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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First few times I did this, it just copied OK with the file explorer. Most recently tho it gave me the same error - so I went to the zip file on my ppc and told it to extract directly to the windows folder, said yes to overwrite and it did. Maybe worth a try. (install the certs first incase it makes a difference.)

SMS Providers CAB
To make my life easier I put the sms_providers.dll from WM5 into a CAB. To install make sure you've installed the sdk certificates (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35814&d=1174572298) first and then install this cab - a soft reset is requested at the end of installation and is required.
I've tested this on the latest LVSW ROM and it works perfectly, hopefully will overcome peoples issues with copying this file.

Telus Vogue Update finally here!

So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096

by setting GPSMode to 4 you disable the GPS. Not the best idea....
GPSMode 1 = ONLY pure GPS
GPSMode 2 = GPS + aGPS
GPSMode 4 = aGPS only

Got it installed without any issues. However Google maps and the Telus Navigator programs don't seem to be able to find the GPS... Well, to be more precise, googlemaps doesn't give an error. It just sits there seeking satellites. The Telus NAV doesn't get past the startup screen. Any suggestions?
WM6.1 is working fine on my phone but is it possible that I actually don't have the built in GPS even though it is a Telus HTC Touch?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31437

guardianfox said:
So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096
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will this work on a non gps telus touch?

foxatphoenixlabs said:
will this work on a non gps telus touch?
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It has been known since a while that all Vogues phones (or CDMA Touch) have the GPS hardware built in. It is just not activated by Telus yet.
This new ROM should be released officially by Telus soon in order to let users have GPS and better performance.

uggh canadians
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum

Rev A
Has anyone else tested to see if Rev A gives better performance?
Also, does this ROM improve Bluetooth and device overall performance?
Dave

its there
the place holder is up.. we can expect the official, offical release soon
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd

Thanks for this ROM. Can't be more easy to upgrade a ROM.
GPS is working fine. It took several try and a very clear sky (no tree) to make first connexion. It was so slow to connect that I suspect AGPS (cellular tower triangulation assist) is not working.
At 3 bars of reception, in EVDO REV A zone, I get a DL speed of 150 to 400kb/s which is pretty lame and just a bit better than before rev A.

One problem:
When clicking on status icons on the top bar (volume, battery, etc.), it used to display the control directly. Now it displays an intermediate screen repeating those icons but in a larger mode. It is buggy because it doesn't display message icons if I previously clicked Dismiss. Then I can't go to my messages.
In Start, Settings, System, TouchFLO, there is no setting to remove this screen.
I tried HKLM->Software->HTC->EnlargeTitleBar->Enable=0 without success.
Is it something that comes with WM6.1?
Is it Telus ROM specific?
Do Sprint official ROM got the same problem?
Any reg to remove this?

That is too funny
513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.

If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
In regards to Rev A speeds. I'm in London ontario so would think there would be rev A in the area but I dont get any better download speeds. I still download around 600-800 kbps. Which is really good enough for me. I dont know if rev A actually was supposed to increase your download speed or if it improved upload speeds making Voip easier and allowing you to have data and phone stuff going on at the same time. All I know is my internet speed didnt change but Rev A was enabled.

Aaron McCarthy said:
If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
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Every time, before using this, an already established data connexion is needed BEFORE looking for GPS satellite. The GPS will not establish the connection if it's not there. A simple solution is to open Google map and move the map up to a download is required BEFORE making the GPS satellite connexion.

513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
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yes i am in canada and now my internet doesnt work. poop.

redNeck
sailor_dude said:
Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.
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thats why i wear my hair
long...to cover my redneck*(~
....................canada has a navy? is it kept together with maple syrup?

For as small as our arms forces are (navy, Army, airforce) we actually have some of the best trained soldiers the world and some of the best equipped. Little known fact No that it has anything to do with the phone!

Looks like the official Telus rom is on HTC's site now.

Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.

Shrink said:
Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.
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Very lame.
Exact same files and version. http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd
2 weeks ago I sent a support ticket to HTC stating that the GPS fix is difficult to get, mainly because all GPS assisted features (aGPS) are disabled by default in the radio (can't be fixed by a simple registry tweak). I even pointed them to one solution of many (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 post #14). Then no correction and not even a mention in the documentation.
I just can't imagine how many phone calls they will get from upgraders complaining that the GPS can't find satellites after 5 minutes...

Another Verizon GPS help thread plus a Pandora question

From what I've gathered reading about the GPS problems on XV6900's with Verizon....you might need to know the history of my ROM's.
1. I got the phone brand new 3 weeks ago and of course it came with 6.0 out of the box.
2. I installed the newest Verizon 6.1 ROM w/ radio 3.37.78
3. I then installed NFSFAN's 6.5 v7 ROM
4. I installed "NFSFAN Verizon GPS Registry.cab"
So for starters my GPS does not ever connect. I don't even know where to start. I've been searching and reading on here for 4 hours this morning and about 5 hours before bed last night. I just got really confused. Lots of what I found was regarding an older Verizon 6.1 update, so I'm not sure any of that was applicable to me. Please point me in the right direction so I can start using Google Maps. Thanks in advance!
Now Pandora.....I have installed the pandora app that I found in the NSFFAN's 6.5 FAQ thread. Well it installed fine, but when it asks for my email and password there is no where to input them. The screen is just solid blue and at the bottom says "Back" and "Sign In". I changed my hardware button to bring up a keyboard thinking that might help, but no such luck. I have uninstalled it and reinstalled it once already. Once again thanks in advance!
-Travis

Alright, I realize it sucks when there is a new thread every week about this, but there is also a ton of old information on this site and it makes finding an answer very hard and even when I think I know what to do I look at the thread date and it's over a year old....and thus refering to an old Verizon ROM. Obviously the answer in on this site somewhere I just need someone to point me to the most recent solution that also correlates with my ROM history and problem. If I have to I'll paypal someone $5 if they can get my GPS working.
I haven't seen anyone have the problem I'm having with Pandora. Has anyone had this issue? Am I actually alone on this one? Are there any other native Pandora program options?

slow88lx said:
From what I've gathered reading about the GPS problems on XV6900's with Verizon....you might need to know the history of my ROM's.
1. I got the phone brand new 3 weeks ago and of course it came with 6.0 out of the box.
2. I installed the newest Verizon 6.1 ROM w/ radio 3.37.78
3. I then installed NFSFAN's 6.5 v7 ROM
4. I installed "NFSFAN Verizon GPS Registry.cab"
So for starters my GPS does not ever connect. I don't even know where to start. I've been searching and reading on here for 4 hours this morning and about 5 hours before bed last night. I just got really confused. Lots of what I found was regarding an older Verizon 6.1 update, so I'm not sure any of that was applicable to me. Please point me in the right direction so I can start using Google Maps. Thanks in advance!
Now Pandora.....I have installed the pandora app that I found in the NSFFAN's 6.5 FAQ thread. Well it installed fine, but when it asks for my email and password there is no where to input them. The screen is just solid blue and at the bottom says "Back" and "Sign In". I changed my hardware button to bring up a keyboard thinking that might help, but no such luck. I have uninstalled it and reinstalled it once already. Once again thanks in advance!
-Travis
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For the first time you open pandora,
open the keyboard before you open pandora,
it should stay open.
it's a problem with pandora itself.
also it seems to not be working correctly with 6.5 as of right now.
I put it on there for others to test for me,
but everyone is reporting it is a no go.
:/
hopefully pandora will release a update asap.
Also, gps issue,
verizon is blocking ip's or something like that,
therefore everything people are doing to make gps work,
is more of a work around.
And I'm sure verizon will figure out a way to counteract those as they are crafty son's of b*tches when it comes to people unlocking stuff they want locked down.

GPS slow getting a fix

I have noticed occasionally my HTC TP2 is very slow getting a GPS fix using the built in receiver (up to 25 minutes to get a fix whereas normally it is under 1 minute). This can happen at the same location as previous days or hours use in open sky area. Running the built in program QuickGPS successfully has not helped. It seems as if any current built in GPS almanac is not working?
Any idea what key data files if any are needed to enable a fast GPS fix? Maybe they are being deleted by memory cleaners? What could be my problem? I get this problem once or twice a week and use the GPS daily.

Have the same problem here but not all the time.

Hey
jmcourir said:
Have the same problem here but not all the time.
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that dosen't help.... maybe this will.. this thread is the most useful(to me atleast)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
LOOK BY THE GPS Reg TWEAKS
hope this helps it sure did for my phone
and i'v heard of changing ratio(i haven't try'd but you can)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939&page=4

humble said:
that dosen't help.... maybe this will.. this thread is the most useful(to me atleast)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
LOOK BY THE GPS Reg TWEAKS
hope this helps it sure did for my phone
and i'v heard of changing ratio(i haven't try'd but you can)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939&page=4
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It's not only mine????
I have exactly the same problem. I compare on the same device, at the same place with internal GPS after 20 mins and Gsat bluetooth after 5 mins
I'll call Orange Waranty this evening!!!

idea
ed_bracam said:
It's not only mine????
I have exactly the same problem. I compare on the same device, at the same place with internal GPS after 20 mins and Gsat bluetooth after 5 mins
I'll call Orange Waranty this evening!!!
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for real? i did not know what kind of HTC TP2(Euo,Orange,T-mobile,etc) maybe we should start a pole about this?
mines take about 2-3mins to lock(not to bad to me)
Edit: just tested 1 or less min

Update
USE the newest google maps 3.2.1 i think

humble said:
USE the newest google maps 3.2.1 i think
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Google maps is related to the signal quality It's new!

You may want to check that warranty information. Dead TP2 GPS units *do* exist -- I had mine replaced after the GPS simply stopped working after 4 days. If a hard reset + GPS provisioning CAB doesn't work - your device has issues. I did not need QPST on either of our TWO Touch Pro 2's in our household here.
(Telus TP2 CDMA/GSM)

gregorypleau said:
You may want to check that warranty information. Dead TP2 GPS units *do* exist -- I had mine replaced after the GPS simply stopped working after 4 days. If a hard reset + GPS provisioning CAB doesn't work - your device has issues. I did not need QPST on either of our TWO Touch Pro 2's in our household here.
(Telus TP2 CDMA/GSM)
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My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks

ed_bracam said:
My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks
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There is very minimal risk to warranty of using HSPL as you can flash the original SPL back if you need to return the device.
Try using the HTCGps tool to Warm up the GPS first.
I have issues with mine if I am travelling and attempt to get a fix from cold, if I obtain the fix before moving, it's fairly quick, max 1 min from cold, and never an issue. if I attempt to get a fix whilst moving it takes forever.
ps, GPS is NOT as good as Kaiser was
Cheers,
Beasty

beast0898 said:
There is very minimal risk to warranty of using HSPL as you can flash the original SPL back if you need to return the device.
Try using the HTCGps tool to Warm up the GPS first.
I have issues with mine if I am travelling and attempt to get a fix from cold, if I obtain the fix before moving, it's fairly quick, max 1 min from cold, and never an issue. if I attempt to get a fix whilst moving it takes forever.
ps, GPS is NOT as good as Kaiser was
Cheers,
Beasty
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Yes maybe not better as Kaiser but look the two screens on my previous post (the first from me)! You can see the result for outdoor and not in so bad condition... With only two sats at 30%, the TP2 will never fix.
If I need a desert area to fix GPS I prefer use the GSAT module. It's easier to use!

ed_bracam said:
Google maps is related to the signal quality It's new!
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its not
Sarcasm... i love it. yup that definitely hardware problem. return pronto

humble said:
its not
Sarcasm... i love it. yup that definitely hardware problem. return pronto
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Yes, I think too! The problem, is that I get my TP2 with a small contract. They manage it as free contract. I need to send the phone order before (by mail, not by fax or email). I think, this return will not easy.
Today I will check the antenna plans, just under the back cover, with chance, one is not correctly connected...

Just Flash a new Radio.
I had the same problems, but all is working perfectly now, its a known problem with the launch Radio's on the device.

mrj said:
Just Flash a new Radio.
I had the same problems, but all is working perfectly now, its a known problem with the launch Radio's on the device.
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Are you sure that the level signal was very low on your device before reflash radio?
Which radio have you now?
The Problem if I flash is the waranty and return back to the original radio If the problem is HW. I don't have the original orange radio ROM.

ed_bracam said:
My TP2 is branded Orange. They manage the warranty. I did 2 hard reset to be sure that is not the result of a bad tweak. No result. The only one problem is low signal received. If you are in a kind of desert, the fix works after few minutes but it's not a standard usage. Friday in my car, during 1 hour, no fix. I start the Gsat receiver 5000km of the last usage (Montreal), it works after 1 minutes! I don't expect this result but I expect the same quality of my kaiser (just correct).
What do you mean by "GPS provisioning CAB" it exists cab?
I can't upgrade the radio (see my signature) because the HSPL fashing is risk for warranty of the device
Thanks
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Hmmm. GPS Provisioning CAB seems to be CDMA specific when I look at it -- http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=78592. May or may not be helpful for you there.
My Touch Pro 2 got into a funk after 4 days of use and no matter what I'd do to it - hard resets, advanced config, QPST settings I could never bring it back to working. Now, if you're on Orange, then I believe you're using one of the European GSM flavours of the TP2 -- one that has an 'official' ROM update from HTC on their site -- before going back to warranty, reflash that phone to see if it resets the radio firmware.
I have also seen things like this with my HTC Touch (Vogue) when I was running NFSFAN's ROM on it. The GPS died, and the fix was simply to reflash the 'official' ROM on it --- TWICE --- before going back to the NFSFAN ROM. HTC devices do weird things sometimes.

gregorypleau said:
Hmmm. GPS Provisioning CAB seems to be CDMA specific when I look at it -- http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=78592. May or may not be helpful for you there.
My Touch Pro 2 got into a funk after 4 days of use and no matter what I'd do to it - hard resets, advanced config, QPST settings I could never bring it back to working. Now, if you're on Orange, then I believe you're using one of the European GSM flavours of the TP2 -- one that has an 'official' ROM update from HTC on their site -- before going back to warranty, reflash that phone to see if it resets the radio firmware.
I have also seen things like this with my HTC Touch (Vogue) when I was running NFSFAN's ROM on it. The GPS died, and the fix was simply to reflash the 'official' ROM on it --- TWICE --- before going back to the NFSFAN ROM. HTC devices do weird things sometimes.
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I have branded Orange TP2 with custom ROM. I didn't found this ROM. I dumped mine but I don't know how to rebuild it. I cannot reflash with the standard HTC because it's not the same.
For the cab I don't know if it can be dangerous for the phone.

GPS Patch !

first we are sad that a cople of users are against us!
For this reason we are stopping with the project.
we want to help the communitie but some people dont want to help to this and want to block this kind of users.
some people are making there own c# code but we work in vb.net so it isnt possible they can view the sourche code from the application.
i hope you all will accept this and to the users that cant get there gps working now we are sorry maby we are back in the future

FAQ Becose it is needed
Project disabled

reservd for images
Here is a youtube vid.
The video was taking inside a building and with the patch we got a good signal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j8ylsb1Qtc
the picture is also taking inside.

Last one
Last one

That is wonderfull!
Soon as I recieve my Rhodium I´ll install it
Thanks!

What is the fix for?

What problem is this patch supposed to address? Slow/intermittent GPS lock, Lag, or some other problem?
As far as I can see it is simply an animated GIF set to display during boot and changing some registry entries relating to the GPS intermediate driver and increasing the file system cache.
Tom

aarrodri said:
What is the fix for?
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I adjusted the post.

frogfoot said:
What problem is this patch supposed to address? Slow/intermittent GPS lock, Lag, or some other problem?
As far as I can see it is simply an animated GIF set to display during boot and changing some registry entries relating to the GPS intermediate driver and increasing the file system cache.
Tom
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yes tom,
the reason i added the gps is that the stupid microsoft visual studio wont allow to build cab files with out a file in it.
it indeed adjust a couple of registry settings but if you do it in the way it is writen above you get a gps fix,
It is for the
lag problem, getting no gps signal in any way.
i even get gps in house now
greats antonius

I have a fix with out this in 3 sec in mine house with google maps.(5sat.)

janshuizing said:
I have a fix with out this in 3 sec in mine house with google maps.(5sat.)
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it is for people with problems

Stuck while it's a hot topic.
Dave

Do you know if T-Mobile TP2s need the new radio driver, or is the included radio up-to-date?

|Blitzkrieg| said:
Do you know if T-Mobile TP2s need the new radio driver, or is the included radio up-to-date?
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if yours works out of the box, don't patch it.
mine is Tmo TP2 and get almost instant sat lock, so I am not going to patch mine for now.

That's the radio version I have. What does the cab file do? Does it automatically change the registry settings for the GPS Intermediate driver? If so, I have made those changes and I still get GPS lag.

gps lag
i work at a auto repair shop and on occasion i get the oppurtunity to drive a customers car that has a dedicated gps. what i have noticed is that the lag time with those dedicated units and my old touch diamond and touch pro is that the lag time is about the same. i have not tested it with my current phone (tp2)just yet but it seems about the same maybe a little faster. imho i think it has something to do with the lag time with the gps signal having to travel so far. if we think about it, the signal has to travel out into space and then back down. things no matter how fast are not instantaneous.
btw i love this phone. i just typed all this on my tp2! great keyboard.
just my two cents

GPS is another reason I miss my HTC Dream. It was fast and worked indoors. SO far, I see no improvement with this radio and .cab. Of course, I already had an alleged GPS fix with a different radio (3.44.25.27 +A-GPS hot fix). I will test outside now. So far nothing indoors. update: well... it does seem to pick up faster outside now. good fix! not great but a bit better than before. good find!

This Fix works great in my TP2...
Question: Installed but my free program down 6MB..? BTW I'm using Miri V 1.1 Manila 2.5
Edit: My Garmin 5.00.20w works better than my TyTNII... It locks inside my house within 5 second.. More amazing in my bed room which I never get any GPS signal... Antonius .. Genius...

testaccount said:
if yours works out of the box, don't patch it.
mine is Tmo TP2 and get almost instant sat lock, so I am not going to patch mine for now.
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Sadly, mine's not working un-patched. TeleNav and Google Maps both are having a hard time getting satelite locks, indoors and out, moving and stationary

|Blitzkrieg| said:
Sadly, mine's not working un-patched. TeleNav and Google Maps both are having a hard time getting satelite locks, indoors and out, moving and stationary
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download the new program that i just put online.
and try it again.
p.s. did you update your radio rom ?